# The official "Can you smell androstenone" poll

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 15, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837 "2008-05-15T22:45:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/41 "2009-08-07T21:09:05Z")

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> [@rhuang22](#):
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> I cannot smell IFM either.  
> I got a bottle of ammo about a year ago and no offense but I, along with others, cannot stand the smell of AMMO.  
> I think I prefer the smell of TUTH than AMMO.  
> I cannot really smell the -none initially, but maybe if it has been an hour after the application, then maybe I am able to detect it.

Interesting.. I smell IFM and it gives me negative feelings unless I spray it on the back of my neck…  
I like the smell of AMMO myself though it is a tad too strong for my tastes..😃

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**Author:** ![MaChMa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@MaChMa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MaChMa)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/42 "2009-08-19T07:10:38Z")

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I love the -none smell on ladies, but only if they get done with a modest workout, and not really sweat, but that smell is sexy. Of course if they put on one squirt of cologne, that would make it amazing.

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**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/43 "2009-09-18T08:42:01Z")

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The new love of my life said something couple of days ago that made me think that she can smell it. I have been wearing pheros around her since we got back together again few months back. Started with socials and then added IG, MX292 and when things got physical TUTH.

I always cover with GIT and she has complimented me on this, but the other day when in one of our be honest conversations she said i had ‘A’ body odour and was going to get me a deodorant !! ☹

Never had this said before, and always have bath, shower before i see her.

So i am thinking she can smell androstenone, will cut this out and see if she notices a change, that or just tell her about the pheros use.

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**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/44 "2009-09-18T16:50:47Z")

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> [@BubbleCatcher](#):
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> The new love of my life said something couple of days ago that made me think that she can smell it. I have been wearing pheros around her since we got back together again few months back. Started with socials and then added IG, MX292 and when things got physical TUTH.
> 
> I always cover with GIT and she has complimented me on this, but the other day when in one of our be honest conversations she said i had ‘A’ body odour and was going to get me a deodorant !! ☹
> 
> Never had this said before, and always have bath, shower before i see her.
> 
> So i am thinking she can smell androstenone, will cut this out and see if she notices a change, that or just tell her about the pheros use.

Maybe with a cover scent (GIT) the -none was covered up and became consciously undetectable by the target. Can anyone confirm this ?

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**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/45 "2009-09-18T17:37:46Z")

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> [@rhuang22](#):
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> Maybe with a cover scent (GIT) the -none was covered up and became consciously undetectable by the target. Can anyone confirm this ?

Not sure what you mean by this?

She can smell something and it is not BO ?

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**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/46 "2009-09-18T17:47:36Z")

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I have yet to smell it in any of the mixtures and I know what my pits smell like when they’re rockin and rancid hahaha.

maybe it’ll come to me eventually

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**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/47 "2009-09-18T18:21:10Z")

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> [@BubbleCatcher](#):
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> Not sure what you mean by this?
> 
> She can smell something and it is not BO ?

What I mean is, without a cover scent she is able to detect the -none.  
What I’m asking is, will the cologne be able to cover up the -none, making it undetectable?  
So on a conscious level, if the -none is covered, she won’t be able to smell it.  
But on a subconscious level, the -none is still traveling to her nose.

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**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/48 "2009-09-18T18:51:41Z")

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> [@rhuang22](#):
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> What I mean is, without a cover scent she is able to detect the -none.  
> What I’m asking is, will the cologne be able to cover up the -none, making it undetectable?  
> So on a conscious level, if the -none is covered, she won’t be able to smell it.  
> But on a subconscious level, the -none is still traveling to her nose.

Still don’t get how this relates to my issue?

If she can’t smell it, it will still have the desired effect which is the point of me covering it with GIT.

If she can smell it will still have effect but the smell seems to be one she does not like and GIT is covering it that well or she is sensitive to the smell, which it seems from other post some people are.

So don’t the point of subconscious, conscious levels?

It could be that i using more than when started seeing which is why she can now smell it, need to ask her how long she has been smelling this odor.

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**Author:** ![mdsimson3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@mdsimson3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mdsimson3)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/49 "2009-09-22T20:21:26Z")

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I’ve noticed a mild sweat smell with TAC. Sort of like having been outside all day on a hot day. I’ve also observed an unpleasant smell with IFM. I have not noticed any odor with Ammo which has some Androstenone.

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**Author:** ![GoldenHero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/goldenhero/32/1215_2.png) [@GoldenHero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GoldenHero)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/50 "2009-12-05T20:12:26Z")

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> [@mockingbird](#):
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> It is frequently said that 30% of people cannot detect androstenone. I can smell the cat piss like odor. Other people think that it smells like sweat or b.o.
> 
> It would be great if you want to post saying whether you hate the smell or not and what it smells like to you 🙂
> 
> Lets see if the numbers here justify the statistics data above 😃
> 
> Thx for your participation

As a newbie to pheromones,  
at first glance I realized that I’m not able to smell androstenone.

But in order to test it exactly, I made an experiment:

I mixed 600 micrograms ( = 0.6 milligrams ) of pure androstenone  
with 3 milliliters of alcohol solution ( half alcohol, half water ).

Then I spilt the whole amount onto the surface ( rigid PVC ) of my table.

After a few minutes, when the alcohol and the water had evaporated,  
I could smell a slight and distinct odour.

It wasn’t at all like cats’ piss or human sweat or body odour.  
It was like some very noble leather, kind of dry, bitter, sweet.  
This smell was very slight, not ugly, not disgusting,  
and I had to move my nose very close to the table surface  
in order to smell it anyway.

This odour on my table surface lasted several days.

The second experiment was 1 drop of NPA  
( which is now called PA without the “N” )  
to my forearms:

Exactly the same pleasant smell,  
noble leather, dry, bitter, sweet, slight, not ugly, not disgusting.

This odour on my forearms lasted about 12 hours.

So here is the question:

As I’m smelling androstenone only with my nose very close to the stuff,  
do I now have to answer “yes” or “no” ?

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**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/51 "2009-12-05T20:17:45Z")

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I register androstenone not by it’s smell ( sometimes it smells like urine yes, but sometimes I do not detect it) but by the kick in the nose and the coffe effect it has on me.It gets me alerted and nervous in seconds.

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/52 "2010-02-13T14:11:00Z")

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Shyyeesss…

And the next sentence I say after my “yes” reply to “Can you smell Androstenone”, is “and when I do I punch whoever is wearing it.”

Hahaha… funny, but true.  
And it’s totally automatic!

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**Author:** ![Schralp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@Schralp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Schralp)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/53 "2010-02-13T15:29:47Z")

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…Urine for sure.

I pick it up in A314 just minutes after application, especially on the wrists. It makes me paranoid at work that I smell like piss, but haven’t copped any negative reactions.

I think it’s only me that smells it around a close parameter. The smell seems to die down for me after a couple of hours.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/54 "2010-02-23T22:09:10Z")

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I havent really smelled anything bad from any mones yet. Once, my shirt was dried down with IS and it did smell a bit like some piss… No offense to some HAIRY white or black guys, but sometimes, when they dont shower after workout and go out to eat with me, I can smell their nasty underarms or body odors. These guys stink so bad, you wonder if their body is rotting… I havent noticed that from non-hairy white, east asian people though, even if they dont take a shower for a day or two… Not from myself or some of my friends either… Well, some do stink more than others though… However, I have never smelled that bad even when I sprayed 10mcg+ anone and did not take shower and fell asleep… I guess different people with various types of biochemical and bacterial make up react differently to different chemicals… Plus, I once smelled my armpit after a few hours of workout and it actually smelled pretty pleasant to me… Musky but yet a bit sweet and not t0o rancid or foul… I read once that rone actually smells a bit pleasant; I guess I do produce rone \>\> anol \>= anone

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**Author:** ![celerytree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@celerytree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/celerytree)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/55 "2010-05-07T01:44:10Z")

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Is it possible to cover up any potentially bad smelling none from ammo by layering some IS on top after the ammo dries?

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**Author:** ![morphvsmeth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/morphvsmeth/32/2173_2.png) [@morphvsmeth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/morphvsmeth)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/56 "2010-05-07T05:05:46Z")

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heres my question, i havent tried any products yet (tomorrow i will be) but if it smells like nasty sweaty ass socks then why wen girls smell it on u do they like it? cuz if i smelled that on a girl or anyone at all id be like baaacckkk up

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**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/57 "2010-05-07T07:59:32Z")

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it smells like my armpit sweat after i get out of the shower, and no, i’m not using the dial M for Magnetic body wash or whtever it is called,lol

EDIT::  
that comment was about androstadienone. oops!

EDIT 2:  
Androstenone smells like urine. old, dank, like you left a piss-soaked shit sit in a corner under some clothhes and didn’t find it for a few days kind of thing going for it.

While wearing an od of ammo, a young person claimed they could smell cat piss or like somebody had pissed themselves.

on one occasion, my sister asked if i pissed myself and then when on a 20 minute hunt for where one of the dogs must have pissed. kind of funny.

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**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/58 "2010-05-07T08:03:24Z")

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> [@Casanova](#):
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> I register androstenone not by it’s smell ( sometimes it smells like urine yes, but sometimes I do not detect it) but by the kick in the nose and the coffe effect it has on me.It gets me alerted and nervous in seconds.

it is usually androstenone that smells like urine in high enough quantities and after the other scents die down (i.e. like in AMMO), but it can indeed be covered by other scents

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/59 "2010-05-26T16:38:03Z")

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I’ve always covered up my pheromones with cologne, the richer the scent, it works well with it. I know for a fact that I’ve gotten compliments from up close interactions on how good I smelled (Ammo on both sides of neck, 1 on wrists.) They literally told their friends to go smell me because I smelled so good. You just gotta find the right mix of the cologne and mones for your own body chemistry.

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**Author:** ![Fast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Fast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fast)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837/60 "2010-06-02T15:51:12Z")

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Ok sooooo… I’m reading all this and I’m glad that iI’ve never bought Ammo. Although I was considering it.

So what about the things like TAA and P79? Are their negative smells that these give off? What about nol based products (I0/IH)? I’ve never really read anything more then speculation that it might have a bad smell.

Lastly, I like the smell of neroli, but everyone thinks it smells like piss?.. what?

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