# The OFFICIAL MX274 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [June 25, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662 "2008-06-25T16:48:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/181 "2008-12-24T10:34:50Z")

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Hi Leah

Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

Pheromones work by coming in contact with the neurotransmitters in peoples brains and evoking a emotion. I will delve deeper into that later for you but right now I am sure your eager to get your GC and get started.

Most products here smell pretty good even with the cops in it. Smells like neroli or whatever other scent package they are testing when it comes to the test mixes.

I suggest one of the [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) products A or B. I am thinking B for you.

Next I suggest IH for a close intimate connected feeling and to get him to open up more.

MX274 which is a test product has a sexy bonding attentive vibe. Keep in mind its advanced and not under the guarantee. Love it though.

If you have questions just ask.

**Your GC is on its way** 😃 Have a great holiday and I will be back in to give you a more in depth description of what mones do and how they do it,

Tisha 😉

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**Author:** ![armadillo28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/armadillo28/32/2149_2.png) [@armadillo28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/armadillo28)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/182 "2008-12-24T06:32:33Z")

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Woah! Sounds like you had a GREAT Sunday! Good for you! What scent did your MX274 come in? If recall correctly, you said it smells fabulous, or (like heavennnnnnnnnn) 😉

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/183 "2008-12-12T16:12:35Z")

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The best journey is yet to come…

> [@Can anyone give some advice on best ways to use products I will be getting any day.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-some-advice-on-best-ways-to-use-products-i-will-be-getting-any-day/23837/11):
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> 🙂 Hi  
> To answer your question…We are 45 will be 46 this month and have been together about 26 years plus. We have always had a lot of sex everyday but things have been on the low down.
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> My spouse and I have been thru some tragedies the past couple of years & changes don’t know if that has anything to do with it & he is also very too much work and not enough play he can be a little too serious and I am very open and playful and experimental.🙄
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> But I bounced right back afterall you only have one life to live and I feel as I get older I don’t feel older but feel more vibrant and more passionate and want to feel deeper levels of intimacy in all ways.
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> DeerHealer

Wow, your story sounds very much like mine. Both my husband and I are 48. All I really wanted to accomplish was to reignite that spark between us. I am totally blown away by what we’ve been able to do in such a short amount of time.

I started using Androtics products about 3 months ago (was it really just that short amount of time?!!) and I can attest that these products have made a 180 degree difference in turning around our slow slide into boredom, and turned our bedroom (and other quick encounter places) hot, hot, hot!

So, I have a little bit of advice for you that will take a bit of patience. There are several things you want to do, and it is best if you take these in stages so he can get used to the changes gradually. And remember that as you use these to help your relationship the pheromones will affect you too. It is all good. 🙂

**1.) _Lighten the mood_.** When he feels better, lighter, less tense around you that will start the process rolling to happier, better days. I used several products:

**a)Instant Shine** - good for spontaneous smiles, but not a lot of long term effect. I still use this for celebrations as it really intensifies happiness.  
\*\*b) \*\ ***MX274** - really good product with my husband. This one brings him almost immediately out of a bad mood. It promotes harmony in the environment and elicits caring behavior in a thinking, but kind way. It has anti-anxiety effects. When both of you are feeling like you desire harmony and are both feeling less stress, and both feeling deep caring for each other, good things happen. (Be aware that the molecule P74, which is the ingredient in this, is a cool, intellectual molecule. For me that translates to being too much in my head and slightly distanced from my body during sex, so I don’t use this product to promote sexual behavior. Some people, however don’t find this effect, or don’t find it bothersome in sexual encounters. You’ll have to determine for yourself the effects on you in different situations. The same holds true for all pheromones and [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/).)

\*\*2.) _Promote communication_. \*\* Sometimes our guys forget that we are their number one support. They can tend to shut down and isolate themselves. When they can easily open back up those lines of communication in a self-assure way it builds the trust back that might have gotten eroded with years of tension and little fights, and situations out of their control. I used several products:

**a) Come Talk to Me** - This was interesting to use because of the odd reaction my husband had. He’s normally quiet. With this mix he became chatty as hell, but it was all superficial stuff and got to be a little exhausting listening to it.  
**b) Instant Openness** - This a better product for promoting conversations of a general nature that had a little more important content. I recommend using this for a minimum of one to two weeks before moving to the next product. This will set the groundwork for deeper communication that is to come.  
**c) Instant Honesty** - This product, in my opinion, should be used only after some considerable rapport has been built with MX274 and communication lines opened with Instant Openness. It can cause some very deep things to be revealed which can be a little frightening if a person is prone to feelings of having been rejected or stifled. But, the communications when using this product, in my experience with my husband, has lead to an incredible deepening of trust and sense of being valued and cared for.

**3.) _Spark some bedroom interest and intensify bedroom experiences_** - Okay, so you’ve been patient. You’ve worked hard and diligently to set the groundwork for some really mind blowing intensely intimate sex. You want to spice things up for both yourself and your husband, and deserve some reward. You might need a little more patience, but rest assured, the goal is in sight. So, right now your home environment should be really nice with harmony and open communication, more trust and understanding. And hopefully the dynamics that lead to the normal slide down is not there any more. To take this next step I used the following:

**a) Lust After Me** - I was so excited to get this product. But for us it was a dud. Not every man responds aggressively to copulin products and even after 3 months of testing with copulin products I have only seen minimal and sporadic response from my husband. But many women report extremely good, repair-the-walls-afterwards sex as a response to this pheromone. So don’t write it off without a fair trial.  
**b) Essence of a Woman by Love Scent** - ditto for above.  
**c) Instant Sexiness/A** - Very good product and my husband responded with a lot of interest with this product. But it lacked follow-thru. It didn’t close the deal or make a tired male stand to attention. Still a very good product and very fun to play with if you want to tease more than be pleased.  
**d) MX335** - This is a kind of fun, kitchen sink, center of the universe product that is very effective at getting stellar attention. But again, at least in our case, it didn’t close the deal. This is one of my favorite products, btw, because it makes me feel stellar, sexy, happy, and fun.  
**g) Turn Up the Heat** - I had some reservations about using this pheromone after reading the warnings about Androstenone OD, and was afraid it would irritate my husband. I did finally try it and it definitely had some effects of intensifying my desire level… but it did turn my husband into a total crank, so after just a few tries, I discontinued use. If your husband is not sensitive to Androstenone, it may be fine for the two of you to use.  
**f) Methoxyestratetraenone (MEO-EST)** - This experimone has been reported on the site to have some very interesting effects on women’s libidos. I’ve reported pretty extensively on the self effects of this molecule and I think it is a real winner. It doesn’t have much effect worn alone, but paired with the test molecule TAF and the Putative P103 it becomes extremely sensual. Because I feel so sensual wearing this mini-mix, I send out tons more signals to my husband that when he is ready, I am too. It is a very, very friendly molecule. It makes me want to touch things, including my husband… lol. My husband tends to find the molecule calming.  
**g) Estratetraenol (Est) from Love Scent** - This molecule totally centers my husband’s attention on me in a very caring, very supportive, very warm way. It will not promote sexual desire, but it does allow all those good, kind, warm, and loving feelings to surface in him and be expressed. If you are looking for respect, though, don’t wear this molecule. It promotes cuddling, hugs, and loving feelings, but it can tend to unleash a bit of “I know what is best for you” in your husband. If you use this molecule knowing that effect is possible it is easier to take that with a bit of humor and ride it out rather than fight for respect. You won’t get it with this pheromone.  
**h) Putative P83** - This was the first putative I used to show some definite forward momentum in my husband and it was responsible for my husband beginning to initiate sex again, and initiate more often. On its own it is a bit of an impulsive molecule and used at too high a dosage and in a frustrating situation it can cause extreme irritation. So, use it the right way, with stuff that brings out the warm fuzzies, and in situations where you don’t have to put off sex until later. Don’t try to tease with this molecule. It may very well backfire.  
**i) Putative P80** - Wow! This molecule was the deal closer for sure. In my husband, in a mix designed for attention, warm- fuzzies, and sensuality, it very quickly promoted him initiating sex. I’m just now starting to play with it and it has some intense up- and down-sides. On the upside it affects me the same way it affects my husband, in that it makes us really want to do each other. And it is effective at very, very small doses (1.2 - 2.5 mcg). On the downside, it interferes with yummy sensual feelings. _"Doing and being done_" is a very different experience from having intensely passionate, sensual sex. So, I’m still trying to keep that quality of forward momentum and intensity in my mixes, but downplay it just enough to allow the full range of mind-blowing sensation and emotion to come back into play.

So, that is my journey so far. Now I’m working on mixes to really intensify what we have. So, far we’ve been having the best sex of our lives, more intense, more experimental and risk-taking, more passionate, more intimate and honest and real. My husband has gone from almost never initiating to wanting to have sex at least 4 or 5 times a week. I’ve gone from just wanting to renew the spark to writing symphonies of sensation, emotion, behavior. It’s a hell of a lot of fun and extremely satisfying. 😛

My husband loves my new hobby, btw! But because he never knows what brew I’m working on today, or what mix I’ve decided to wear, he never knows ahead of time what it is going to be like. 😛

Happy times!😃🙂😃

Diane

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/184 "2008-12-04T00:46:24Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

Thanks for providing more info about yourself.

Now whats this about grapefruit ? Nothing comes in grapefruit here unless you special order it except MX215, there is no cops in it though. MX274 is a grapefruit/cookie blend. Sounds strange but actually smells really good it has trace amounts of copulins. Copulins on there own or in LAM smell like buttcheese, not grapefruit LOL You really gotta cover them.

Right now their big copulins formula (LAM) is out of stock and they are working on getting the copulins in to release it again. Cops are one thing they dont make in house. Its ok though your good cause you have primal and LAM is Androtics version of womens primal.

Now I suggest Ishine, its great. Warm uplifting youthful, draws people to you and makes them feel great.

MX135 which is sassy flirty attractive fun with a sexy kick. It has copulins in it. Its one of the favorites in the forum. Comes in a chocolitini scent which is like dark chocolate and almonds. If you dont like that scent they havr it in MX235 which is cookie scent and MX335 which is grapefruit.

If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** 😃

Tisha

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/185 "2008-11-23T08:10:10Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

Great profession, Vibrational healing is fascinating, I am so glad you found us 😃

ISex A has a strong sexy confident women vibe to it. Sort of Alpha but not intimidating. Hits with this one can be hard to explain but I will try. You dont get direct sexual hits but you do get noticed more and people are more attentive. Its compared to the Angelina Jolie persona

Isex B is softer more kittenish, sexy, girly… Think more the Marilyn Monroe persona. People tend to be more attentive, increases notability, They treat with more care.

Some men are more attracted to one type then the other. I use them both depending on the vibe I wanna send that day. The best thing to do is get the one that more closely matches your personality to start with.

Now LAM which should be back in stock soon gets men riled up sexually. If you use it with a few **dabs or half a spray** of TUTH which is a mens product they become more sexually aggressive. The Tuth will arouse you as well. Read in the ladies forum about the use of mens products along with the sexually charged womens products to spice up the bedroom. Posts on the product “dirty” which is no longer available will help you decide if you wanna try the LAM and TUTH combo. You want to get tips on this before trying it cause to much of the mens products can make us cranky.

I find after being married for a long time that things get… I dont want to say stale but maybe just routine. What I find worked great on my hubby is Ishine for increased mood and vigor. IH for a close connected feeling. MX274 helps for bonding and attentiveness. When you rekindle those feelings most time the sex part takes care of itself.

I really look forward to talking with you in the forum. **Your GC is on its way** and if you have any questions just ask.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/186 "2008-11-19T10:38:42Z")

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MX274 is upbeat and charismatic like Ishine but with a sexy connecting kick to it. It draws people to you makes them more attentive and increases flirtiness slightly. I really like this one for a step beyond the regular Ishine.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/187 "2008-11-18T01:32:31Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

Good choices. You may want to move up to LAM when its back in stock but I think what you have is good to start out with. MX274 is a good choice for more attentiveness and bonding with a sexy kick thrown in.

Try them out one at a time and let your hubby become accustomed to them. Too mine a week or so to really respond well. They have pre conditioned responses and for some it takes a few trys to snap them out of that.

We are here to help so if you have questions just ask.

**Your GC is on its way 😃**

Have fun

Tish

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/188 "2008-11-18T00:21:15Z")

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Hello there Nariba 🙂

Well now, I think you doing a great job already at beating that shyness. 😉 You go girl LOL

IO and IH are great, I have them separate and mixed together in the form of CTTM.

Having them separate is more versatile in my opinion.

Have you tried Ishine, If not its a must have. You will really be addicted then LOL MX274 is something you may want to check out when you have a chance. Its upbeat fun attractive but also makes people more attentive and bonding.

You have a good outlook on the socials. They can be more powerful then the sexuals at times when it comes to attraction.

If you have questions just ask and I look forward to chatting with you in the forum

**Your GC is on its way** 😃

Have fun

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/189 "2008-11-12T22:39:01Z")

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LOL, All I wore today was LP Sugared Grapefruit and some MX274 and my boss gave me a shoulder massage, go figure!

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/190 "2008-11-12T15:35:26Z")

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> [@Hit on constantly, more so before menstruation: is my natural pheromone output high?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hit-on-constantly-more-so-before-menstruation-is-my-natural-pheromone-output-high/22791/5):
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> Based on that I would think maybe some IShine and some IH might help open some lines of communication with hubby to help the two of you figure out what the problem is …

I’d also suggest MX274 because it promotes feelings of empathy and goodwill. But it does tend to lower passion, at least for me and my husband, because we end up so content with each other… as is. 🙄 I’ve read posts here where some men claim P74 (main ingredient in MX274) lowers their game… prolly for the same reason.

I think most women feel more sexy just before and during ovulation and just before menstruation. That is the effect of high levels of sex hormones in your system. And feeling sexy is a huge attractant all on its own. Remember that attraction is 10% pheromones, 90% attitude. 😛

Copulins are produced naturally in a woman’s vagina only in the presence of semen. There are tons of articles available on the web about this pheromone.

Wearing EW when you are already getting too many hits prolly isn’t a good idea. Instead you might want to up your game a little with MX134 or TAL. That might make you seem a tad less available for hitting upon.

Diane

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**Author:** ![Mademoiselle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Mademoiselle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mademoiselle)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/191 "2008-10-23T17:19:46Z")

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> [@My teacher kissed me today!!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-teacher-kissed-me-today/21523/20):
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> We don’t know for sure, Remmy, but judging by the way I’ve reacted to IS/A, which we KNOW is based on TAL… I think MX274 is TAL heavy. And I’m definitely a TAH gal. I think MX274 is for a TAL gal like MX135 is for a TAH gal.

Very interesting! So the mx274 can make you feel a little… diva-ish let’s say or put you in a bad mood? I just ordered some so I’ll see how it works on me lol!

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**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/192 "2008-10-22T04:30:04Z")

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> [@My teacher kissed me today!!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-teacher-kissed-me-today/21523/21):
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> hmmm ya i suppose so. i woudl loove mx274 if it werent for the slight cloying chocolatini smell in the background ☹

Aww, sorry to hear that remmy, but wow, skin chemistry is so crazy, cause mx274 doesn’t smell anything near like chocolatini on me, more like grapefruit/vanilla. hmm, I’m curious you don’t like chocolatini?

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**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/193 "2008-10-21T01:19:09Z")

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hmmm ya i suppose so. i woudl loove mx274 if it werent for the slight cloying chocolatini smell in the background ☹

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/194 "2008-10-19T18:45:06Z")

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REPS!!! I soooooo wish I could wear MX274! Even if the bitch doesn’t come out, I still feel her there & can’t enjoy anything. ☹ So happy for you & your results tho!

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**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/195 "2008-10-18T22:58:49Z")

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Imo, phero-wise (without the scent package) I like 282 alot more, people are more friendly, and it’s quite sexual in a subtle way (not more right in your face kinda thing like is/a or lam per say). Guys just start noticing you more and it builds up as the whiff more of mx282 lol. But scent wise, I prefer mx274 since my skin cloys the coconut (which is a note in mx282) _sigh_

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**Author:** ![madison](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/madison/32/546_2.png) [@madison](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/madison)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/196 "2008-10-18T19:53:27Z")

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I’m curious too! I’ve only tried the mx274

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**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/197 "2008-10-17T05:38:08Z")

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hi! a quick review of what i think about them:

mx282: def. a sexual phero. the smell is easier to cover up. i wore it once with my friend and he kept trying to smell my legs (my application point).. a couple of months ago, i wore it when i was fighting with my sorta-tg he completely lost it and we had some great time that night 😉

mx274: sexual and social.. but i think more social than not. i dont get along with the mx274 smell.. it’s a little cloying on me. the same tg mentioned above ignored me completely when i wore that so im actually more partial to mx282. also the thing is, he’s very very sensitive to smell and he hates chocolatini no matter how discreet it is, so it could’ve been him just trying to get away from the smell.

so in conclusion.. i personally prefer mx282 just because although i think its more subtle it is definitely more sexual. i just hope they sold it as a stand-alone sometimes 😉

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**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/198 "2008-10-15T02:45:09Z")

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I get reactions with these pheros from both men and woman, but I’ll just list only the reactions I get from women since that’s what you want to hear 😉 But they aren’t sexual though imo.

mx135

I find that mx135 makes me seem more pretty to them. I get alot of “Hey, you look pretty!” or “you’re such a beautiful girl” … and I looked pretty low maintenance those days. lol, I remember my bestfriend brushing my lashes!! lmao (over the top affection though). Mx235 is the same thing, but I feel like I got more hits from mx135. Maybe it’s cause chocolatini diffuses much much better even miles away lol In the bus, I remember this woman, just staring at me like this 😮 and I really had to give her the wtf look, cause it scared me lol, People definately want to know you!

mx274

When I wear this one my girls are so fricken friendly, they’re all smiley, and chilled out. I find that they fawn over you too, I get the “I miss you” alot from my buddies (which is so adorable!) Everyone feels relaxed and has a good time too. It’s like mx135 but toned down, atleast to me it’s not as blatant, but it’s there and it works.

Instant openness and Cttm

Makes them chatty until you want to scream “ShhhHHHHhhhhh!!!”

[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)

Makes them touchy, I swear by this stuff when I’m around the guys (hehehe) but it works on women too. I remember my female teacher swing my ponytail and another one that hit my butt with her file (I know that was kinda off…), and another one who kept slapping my back when I kept typing the wrong java code!

That’s what I could think of right now, but I’m pretty sure turn up the heat, instant shine, and instant female magic work wonders for women too.

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**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/199 "2008-10-11T21:02:48Z")

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ive been slacking from using new phero combos in awhile.. i always think "should try something more exciting today.. " then i see my little bottle of eow spiked hair serum and my bottle of est and my hand just automatically reaches for them.

i need to try something else because i think im supposed to rotate pheros..

should i order IS-A again? i literally have about 2 sprays left..

maybe i should pick up on mx274 again? i slacked off since my sister told me that the smell is a bit cloying on me. then once i was wearing mx274 and i had a bad invisi-effect night so i kind of started associating the night with mx274.

☹ i need some new phero combos to get excited again ☹

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**Author:** ![smell\_yummy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@smell\_yummy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smell_yummy)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/200 "2008-10-11T05:05:52Z")

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> [@remmy](#):
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> hehe hii 🙂
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> yay i love journals! kinda have been MIA lately but yay 🙂 hehe i had that same effect with pink sugar btw so dont despair ☹
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> everytime i wear Lust After Me tho, SOME guys always say “…what is that smell” ☹ and it didnt change with grapefruit scent ☹ im just a crappy LAM coverer i think ☹
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> but yes! so glad ur LAM works well for you and u get along with ylang ylang!
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> \<3 remmy

Oh I’ve had a couple people comment on “the stink”. It happened when I used 5 drops with a scented lotion that was not as strong. It works like a charm but after the scent of the lotion dies down the scent of Lust after me comes through, so either a stronger lotion scent or a good perfume spritz over it is a good idea 🙂

K, so the following report/journal is on old products and is very unorganized, I’m feeling lazy but want to write a journal on this.  
I’m having trouble convincing my guy friend that these pheros do work and they work well. I’ve given him a couple samples, as well as Turn up the Heat and p83. The Turn up the Heat he had left in the car for days till most of it evaporated. I told him ofcoarse it’s not going to work now, and the p83 I gave him my whole bottle (even though it works with me, I gave it to him to be nice plus he bought me a textbook) but he said it hasn’t worked for him. He said well if this stuff works wouldn’t it work on ourselves when we wear it? Wouldn’t the person wearing it feel some kind of effect? I said well yeah, and I have. Although it should target others who are near you in a different way then it effects you, the other day (and I swear this has never happened to me, aside with is/h and is/o) I swear mx274 worked backwards on me. Not a bad thing, the grapefruit cookie has very powerful diffusion thing going on so usually even one spritz has a major effect, but the weather is getting a bit cold. I was with my bf and decided to spritz some on because this usually has the est effect I want, and works great on him. He was being difficult. After spritzing this he did become less difficult. When we got to the bookstore so I could study he was reading a book. They have a cafe there and I was drinking tea and having soup and crackers. He asked for some food so before I went to the cafe I kept asking what type of food he wanted. I kept starting to leave and comming back to make sure if I knew what he wanted exactly. He just said to surprise him. When I went to the cafe the lady seemed cranky but I was patient and she responded better. They didn’t have any soup left and I just got the rest of the things for my bf and asked him if that was okay and kept petting him and asking if he would still be hungry. I sat down slightly embarressed realizing I sound like I was talking to a young toddler or super babying him. And there were people around. You know when you stop and think “Wait this is this isn’t like me” It’s how I felt even though I do cater to his non grateful butt, it has never baby him to this extent, and in public. I think that that day I had been the only one affected by the mx247. I seemed unusually patient with every one around me, and in need to take care. But if this is because of the mx247, then it must be great on guys too.

I decided after reading the reports on 235 and 135, and 335 (I have 235 togo and a bottle of 135) I think I would just stick with 235. The smell has grown on me. I liked it from the start but I like it more now. After a couple hours I smell sugar. In the same pink sugarish way. And it goes well with some of the scents that I normally wear since I love chocolate scents. Also although I have incredible hits with mx135, there are often hit and miss. I think with the cookie I’m compromising with hits that are still good although a tad bit more subtle it is getting hits from a wider range. As in the effects are more often and with more people. Again it is more subtle but still a big enough difference AND I really like the scent. mx135 there does seem to be more of a best friend like quality and sometimes people think “your the greatest” effect. The other day I wore mx235 I noticed people are just happy and friendly and it does kill the social anxiety, a very good ice breaker. I wore a ton of it when going to school to work with group members on a project.

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