# The OFFICIAL MX353 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [November 5, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472 "2009-11-05T17:15:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/181 "2009-12-03T13:53:29Z")
Ammo is a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) with its own cologne scent. How long the cologne scent lasts - ar lasts at a level you want - is probably very indidualistic but on me the cologne scent lasts as long as most good colognes do. How long the pheromones last is also slightly individualistic and partially based on weather, etc. But you can count on them for at least a good 3-4 hours. Both products however do contain 'none (the “I am a Man” pheromone). 'None lasts much longer than just about any other phero and is very sticky. So when using MX353 you need to be aware that you will get 'none build-up. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/182 "2009-12-03T05:39:50Z")
Ah, no worries. I mean MX353 is great since it first came out as MX292, definitely worked as others mentioned (similar effects as other guys.) Hopefully it works for you, just try it by itself in the beginning before trying to add anything from the Instant line to it. Three to four sprays (for me) seems to be where it’s at. Just make sure to try it alone, and make sure to pay close attention for possible effects and IOI! > [@MX353 what is its effect?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx353-what-is-its-effect/34564/14): > > Hey i really appreciate it man. I know you’re just trying to help 🙂 > > I have been trying instant lines for quite two weeks i know it’s such a small amount of time but i’m one of luckys able to order from a mx353 batch released earlier today. My bottle is on its way now, I should’ve consulted first. > > Anyhow, can you give me some more advices? Currently what i have here is IS, IO, IH, IG, CTTM2, and TUTH all togo sizes. I was really desperate to get an attractant bottle (considering there’s a new really hot caucasian babe in office) and it happens that 353 is the only one in the attractant line i’m lucky to see in stock. > > To be honest with you, yeah i should have played more with the instants first as i’m still not familiar w/ the effects. very subtle, but noticeable at least. > > I have no idea yet w/ TAF and TAC you’re saying. lol what’s that? 😃 > > yeah it’s really tough to be new here.😕 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/184 "2009-12-02T15:08:59Z")
Sounds like a great night! My GF reacts very similarly to MX353 (same product FF22 scented). Have fun with it! 🙂 I really wish that Androtics offered their products in unscented. It would make things a lot easier. ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/185 "2009-12-02T04:49:25Z")
> [@daset1](#): > > ugh I hate complications, I feel for you… this ex for yours, is she controling? Trying to get back at you? The funny/sad part is that she thinks she’s really hurt me by doing that. The honest truth is I care less for her than I do for the change in my pocket. When she sees me she makes sure to wave and grin, just to point it out I guess. It’s all good though, no use crying over spilled milk. Mone wise I got my shipment in today. (Three days including a Sunday!) I got MX353 (apparently 272) in the new F22 scent. It smells godly and I really enjoy it. I hope this one comes into mass production. GIFT:Mx138 which is a mix I’ve used very sparingly because I have had it in the past but it was so good I didn’t want to waste it. This one led to my last two relationships. MX291, this one was a pot shot in the dark. It smells great though. I think its game? I don’t know honestly. Overall I’m extremely satisfied with this purchase, two (possibly three) hard hitters for less than 40 bucks. Thanks Androtics. ---
**Author:** ![jbnewberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@jbnewberry](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbnewberry)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/186 "2009-12-01T15:57:00Z")
> [@MX353: now my all time favorite pheromone to wear alone, even above instant shine](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx353-now-my-all-time-favorite-pheromone-to-wear-alone-even-above-instant-shine/34512/2): > > bless AD for making 292 in ff22. its truly the best. Well said. MX353 is THE mix to wear around women. Seems to lift everyone’s mood and make me seem more attractive. FF22 always gets compliments as well . It is my favorite product of all that i have tried. ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/187 "2009-12-01T06:02:54Z")
Recently, this has become my all time favorite pheromone, even above instant shine; when it comes to just being able to wear ONE. This is magic in a bottle, and it really does do tricks. Girls that usually don’t like me and have long written me off, I catch them staring at me. (Girl)Friends like me more and even get attracted until they catch themselves… which i let them of course 🙂 haha Random girls that I talk to or that talk to me want to talk longer and enjoy our conversations, even if they’re pointless. No self effects, but when it comes to girls, I feel like I could go up to any girl and bet 500 bucks that I could get her phone number in just twenty minutes of less because they REALLY like me when I’m wearing this.. I don’t know what it is, but this is apart of my “never leave the house without” mix, because why not? Theres never a reason to not use this… Even if you’re not meeting girls or doing something else because theres no other effects, positive or negative. that’s what it does, and it doesnt control your mind or make you think differently either, like none can do if its not controlled I LOVE MX353. ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/188 "2009-12-01T06:02:02Z")
mx353. it hurts knowing theres a mix so powerful ---
**Author:** ![coreykeith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coreykeith/32/670_2.png) [@coreykeith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/coreykeith)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/189 "2009-12-01T03:01:47Z")
> [@It's been two weeks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-two-weeks/34500/7): > > I wasn’t a Game scent lover either but I really do like FF22. Smells a lot like Silver Mountain Water by Creed. FF22 seems to go very nicely with MX353 (at least in my opinion). I agree about the MX353 I just got my 4th and 5th bottle… It smells good..Its very enticing and gets me alot of attention at work… ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/190 "2009-11-30T23:16:53Z")
Great report! 🙂 I really like MX353 but then so does my GF. I can only wear it around her when we have nowhere to go. 🆒 I’m sure that others on here will be able to be much more eloquent than I am but the best advice I could give you to help open and close is to be yourself. I tried TONS of PUA techniques but none felt right for me. With the help of the pheromones I started getting more self confidence and that helped my true personality come through. It turns out that people actually like being around me (not sure why) and that I’m a pretty funny guy. In short, be yourself and like yourself and it is amazing how quickly the other stuff falls into place. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/191 "2009-11-15T15:15:37Z")
Last night was wild. I put on 1 spray to each side of my neck and one spray split between the wrists. Picked up my GF who remembered the scent from when I’d worn it as MX353 around her. We went to a bar to listen to a friends band but I was getting looks a plenty from women and lots of ‘hey dude!’ kind of responses from guys. The women I knew didn’t seem to act a whole lot differently other than more eye contact and a bit flirtier. One woman walked up next to me at the bar where I was waiting to order for me and my GF and DIHL’d (never wore Ammo enough to know it could do that) then while her body was facing the bar her head swiveled to face me. While this is going on this cheshire cat grin is forming on her face. ‘You smell AWESOME.’ Then she starts touching my shoulder while talking to me. I’m trying to get the bartenders attention but I figure she thought I was busy talking up the blond at the bar when my GF comes up. ‘Hi honey, who’s your little friend?’ Oh shit. 😮 They got into an argument because wasn’t impressed with me being hit on at the bar by someone she figured was at least as good looking as she was. (FYI- she was). I ended up dragging my GF away and we left about 15 minutes later. I still had my computer running when we got back to my apartment so I had to throw a really fast post on here while my GF was in the bathroom because I was in shock. FYI she came out wearing nothing but a smile. A good time was had by… ME! 😃 I love pheromones! For you newbies out there, I was congruent with the image that Ammo presents (fun, approachable alpha male) without worrying about whether or not the pheros were working. I was having a good time with someone I care about and that comes through. The pheros just help add that extra sparkle. I think today I’m going to try the ICM Ia oil with ylang ylang and cover it with MX350 to see how things go. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/192 "2009-11-13T02:06:59Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > mx353 is out AHHH MX353 is GREAT! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/193 "2009-11-11T02:32:58Z")
I’m dispensing with the usual report format for this one because the only person I’d interacted with was my GF. Not intentional but that is the power of MX353! 🆒 I have seen this in a prior (MX292) incarnation work either phenomenally well or not really at all. Now that it is in a scent I can work with, I am wearing this quite a bit more. My GF had never seen my office so I was going to meet her there and show her around (both had the day off) and then we were going to go to lunch. I got there about 10 minutes before she did and decided that I’d throw a spray of MX353 to the neck and a spray split between the tops of my hands. Strong FF22 scent but it dried down pretty quickly so by the time she got there it wasn’t strangling her with the strength of it. I really didn’t get much that I noticed in the way of self effects but looking back, I’m sure it was affecting me. I am a horny guy by nature so I chalked it up at the time to me being me. I think the MX353 was helping things along where I was noticing her tight jeans, the way her shirt curved around her curves… :o Now I was sitting and talking with her in my office and over the course of about 25-30 minutes I noticed something changing. I should mention that my office is only 10’ by 12’ so my phero cloud filled it very nicely. I should also mention that my GF is already comfortable with me so this definitely skews the results. Also, I know from experience that she’s more reactive than most other people I know to the pheros. MX115 turns her into a wildcat. Apparently MX353 turns her into a total animal as well. We are sitting and talking and I’m noticing her covering her breasts with her arms (basically she had her arms crossed) but more like she’s slightly rubbing instead of hiding herself. Then I notice that she is getting quieter and just listening to me talk. I also started to notice her getting flushed. Anyone who has seen a woman ‘flushed’ knows the difference between that and blushing. She was actually starting to sweat a bit. I’m sitting there beginning to wonder if she is feeling alright. I was getting genuinely concerned. Then she asks me rather quietly, ‘Will you take me home?’ I said sure and asked about her car. She forgot she’d driven. 😕 I’m getting worried thinking she isn’t feeling well. She says she’s okay to drive but that her place is closer. I didn’t catch that right away but later I realized what she meant… We get to her house and before the door is closed she tried to kiss me so hard she almost knocked a tooth out of my mouth. The rest as they say, is history. 😃 For the record, we never made it to go to lunch. We found something to eat at her place later on. I thought it was interesting because she told me that she didn’t know what came over her. My ‘sex cologne’ makes her instantly horny but this sort of came over her and she didn’t know what to make of it because she’d never felt it that physically strong. We talked about it later and she told me (Akuto=MX114/115/116) makes her want me but it is more like an emotional or mental response that is VERY immediate and her body catches up. This was apparently more like a buildup in her body that got her so worked up physically that it overwhelmed her. She didn’t mind it she just wished she understood it better. I told her it must have been the new aromatherapy product I was trying. She told me to never wear it around her when she’s in public because she didn’t want to have to drag me behind a tree to attack me. 😮 I also managed to distract her from the moving in question. I really like her but there are too many things about her that I don’t know that I really want to live with forever. I’m still figuring things out since she is the first ‘real’ GF I’ve had in longer than I’d care to admit. Edit- I used MX292 a few times when I was still technically single around female aquaintances and I’ve seen huge reactions from a few of them that rivaled this one. One friend of mine was arching her back and twitching her legs while we were sitting in a coffee shop. I’ve also seen other women I know appear to be totally unaffected. It is wild. One thing that I like about [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) is that it seems to provide a very consistant response with people. It might not be quite the steam locomotive that MX353 is (get it rolling and nothing stops it) but it works very well. Now that I know what MX353 does to the GF it is definitely getting added to the arsenal. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/194 "2009-11-10T23:02:27Z")
> [@jayarea](#): > > repeated exposure, or stockholm syndrome? 🙂 > [Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome) > > 1s ff22 ammo front neck > > scent isn’t too bad at 1s. i took the plunge and put it on my neck preparing for the worst, and it never came. still initially like laundry detergent, but once the first few minutes passed, it settled down into the ff22 that i remember from the testers. no more laundry detergent. > > this leads to the intro of the post. maybe my nose is getting accustomed to these new scents (or they have burned off all olfactory sensors). maybe i’m forcing myself to like/tolerate them. either way, they’re starting to come around. this is also the first time i’ve been sober and not hungover around ff22, so perhaps my senses are all here with me now. > > had a great day of shopping planned and it was ruined by a snobby sales clerk. hit the journal post if you want to know more. my mind wasn’t right after that so i decided not to force anything and just go home. the girl working next to the snobby clerk did throw me some ioi; they might’ve been out of pity for having to deal with the snobby clerk. I love the title! 🙂 I actually don’t mind FF22. I had on MX353 today and had a very good day. 😛 I plan to post a report later on. ---
**Author:** ![coreykeith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coreykeith/32/670_2.png) [@coreykeith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/coreykeith)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/195 "2009-11-07T01:14:52Z")
MX353- 2 sprays A fresh oceany but synthetic almost polmolive dishwashing liquid scent. Lighter feel than neroli yes but not a scent that I would use as a cover in itself. Most of the self effects were very mild. Once I get some clue about whether to use 2, 3 or even four sprays Ill start using cover colognes. The residual scent does persist longer than [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/). It reminds me what I might smell like if I washed myself with blue Irish spring but didnt get all the soap off. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/196 "2009-11-06T20:28:12Z")
[quote=“jayarea”] seriously, it was like one entire long grope. [quote] I love it! Best line I’ve read in a report in a while. 🙂 I’m wearing MX353 right now and I agree that the pheros seem to have changed the scent. I got that same initial alcohol smell but now I do remember smelling something similar to this in a body lotion my ex wife used to use. I don’t know if I am a huge fan of this or not yet, either. Later tonight I’ll let my GF decide if she likes it (which will determine whether or not I do). I leaning towards liking it just because it IS so different but I think the FF22 scent is the reason for my current headache. Not a plus. ---
**Author:** ![ss109](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@ss109](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ss109)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/197 "2014-05-29T13:10:59Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > There is very much likely no chance to overdose with MX353 from one spray !! > > How can you say that the mentioned products do contain none .. and how much none .. does anybody say exactly what he means when he says none .. there are many different molecules in the “none” group ? > > Just because they say that it contains none ?? > > Try it as a single molecule and it will be eye opening ! > > **Pago** I require very, very little enone to OD. NPA for instance is nearly impossible for me to use no matter how much I dilute it or how little of a dab I use. When I say enone, I mean plain old Androstenone, I think its accepted convention to refer to it with the aforementioned abbreviation? This is hardly controversial. How can I say that the products in question contain enone? Well, among other things, some have that unmistakable enone odor that hits you right away. Others, which are heavily fragranced (MX353, TUTH), I go by my personal experience, product descriptions, and the many reviews available for anyone to read. As far as how much enone said products contain I think you well know that neither I nor yourself can answer that question, however it is very safe to assume that NPA and TUTH (As well as Primitive) are primarily enone driven formulas. To suggest otherwise is just being deliberately obtuse and contravening hundreds if not thousands of posts. In addition, if you are willing to accept that Chemset enone is the real thing, then why not accept what the vendor of Primitive clearly states with regards to it’s product description? I shall reproduce here for your convenience: “Due to the alpha nature of Androstenone and as PRIMITIVE does not use other pheromones as buffers, it is wise to control how much androstenone can go airborne with the use of oils instead of alcohols.” BTW, an extremely well known and respected reviewer on another board characterizes Primitive as “weapons grade androstenone”. Above all, I know what a enone OD typically feels like for me- all but very elderly women actively stay out of my way, nobody but grannies giving me eye contact etc..I experienced this very thing time and time again with just 1 spray of MX353. I realize you are firmly wedded to your pet theory that MX353 contains little to no enone but I must say that I firmly disagree. So get over it! ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/198 "2014-06-16T15:12:43Z")
Hi guys, I ordered a bottle of MX353 about a month ago and Im having a little trouble figuring it out. I have worn it about 5 times now, 3 times all by itself, and two other times where I buffered with Shine and 20 mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/); and the other time with P96. The first time I wore it to an outside patio bar that was crawling with Cougars.2 sprays MX353 by itself with Aqua Di Gio cover. It is kind of stinky shit… Kind of felt like I was OD’ing. I was Mr. Invisible. Literally. Gals were not paying any attention and people were walking/bumping into me like I wasn’t there. It was bugging me so I left after an hour. The second time I wore 1 spray alone with Armani something or other to cover. I was out to dinner with a galpal (FWB. Brunette, 37.) We met at a sports bar and everything was cool for about 30 minutes, then she metamorphed into the 3 headed bitch from hell. She got really irritable, and was taking everything I said the wrong way. I told her mellow out or I was leaving. She didnt. I did. The third time I wore one spray and went to meet a buddy at the Mall of America for lunch. Now, granted, Ive known this guy since grade school, so there is more than a little back and forth banter and giving each other shit, etc. But he was relentless with the put downs, and giving me non-stop shit about everything. I had a new casual golf shirt on with a light colored summer sport jacket. When I walked in and saw him, the first thing he says is, “Nice sport coat…who shot the couch? Oh, and what is with the bowling shirt?” ??? This went on and on and on. No respect. And the women in the restaurant seemed to be checking him out and I was Mr. Invisible again. The forth time I wore it was just 1 spray and 20 mcg P83. Was at a crowded happy hour after work. Was getting funny looks from women. No hits that I noticed. And yesterday I wore 1 spray with 30mcg P96 and went to the mall to do some shopping. I figured I would at least come in contact with lots of women in passing, store clerks, etc and would get some random hits. Nothing. I initiated with several women and got cold shouldered big time. So…Im looking for a fresh set of eyes on this..what am I doing wrong with this one? The only thing I can think of is that Im using it in the wrong environment. Probably would work better in a more sexually charged environment like a club or a house party, but I haven’t had a chance to do that yet. I thought I would do what I do with all new mones that I buy, that is I wear them alone to see what self effects I get, and see how people react to it, then I start experimenting by mixing it with other pheros. But Im stumped on this one, and I want to get some of the very positive results others seem to be getting with it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![ss109](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@ss109](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ss109)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/199 "2014-06-17T16:22:25Z")
> [@CelticPrince](#): > > Hi guys, I ordered a bottle of MX353 about a month ago and Im having a little trouble figuring it out. I have worn it about 5 times now, 3 times all by itself, and two other times where I buffered with Shine and 20 mcg P83; and the other time with P96. > > The first time I wore it to an outside patio bar that was crawling with Cougars.2 sprays MX353 by itself with Aqua Di Gio cover. It is kind of stinky shit… Kind of felt like I was OD’ing. I was Mr. Invisible. Literally. Gals were not paying any attention and people were walking/bumping into me like I wasn’t there. It was bugging me so I left after an hour. > > The second time I wore 1 spray alone with Armani something or other to cover. I was out to dinner with a galpal (FWB. Brunette, 37.) We met at a sports bar and everything was cool for about 30 minutes, then she metamorphed into the 3 headed bitch from hell. She got really irritable, and was taking everything I said the wrong way. I told her mellow out or I was leaving. She didnt. I did. > > The third time I wore one spray and went to meet a buddy at the Mall of America for lunch. Now, granted, Ive known this guy since grade school, so there is more than a little back and forth banter and giving each other shit, etc. But he was relentless with the put downs, and giving me non-stop shit about everything. I had a new casual golf shirt on with a light colored summer sport jacket. When I walked in and saw him, the first thing he says is, “Nice sport coat…who shot the couch? Oh, and what is with the bowling shirt?” ??? This went on and on and on. No respect. And the women in the restaurant seemed to be checking him out and I was Mr. Invisible again. > > The forth time I wore it was just 1 spray and 20 mcg P83. Was at a crowded happy hour after work. Was getting funny looks from women. No hits that I noticed. > > And yesterday I wore 1 spray with 30mcg P96 and went to the mall to do some shopping. I figured I would at least come in contact with lots of women in passing, store clerks, etc and would get some random hits. Nothing. I initiated with several women and got cold shouldered big time. > > So…Im looking for a fresh set of eyes on this..what am I doing wrong with this one? > > The only thing I can think of is that Im using it in the wrong environment. Probably would work better in a more sexually charged environment like a club or a house party, but I haven’t had a chance to do that yet. I thought I would do what I do with all new mones that I buy, that is I wear them alone to see what self effects I get, and see how people react to it, then I start experimenting by mixing it with other pheros. But Im stumped on this one, and I want to get some of the very positive results others seem to be getting with it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! My experience is very similar to yours. I’ve also used with A314rev32 with no appreciable difference. Highly disappointed in the stuff. Have a 30ml bottle I could very well sell. You may want to try with “Wolf” from LAL , haven’t run this combo yet but hearing good things about it. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/200 "2014-06-17T17:06:20Z")
CelticPrince .. MX353 .. works not so well with P96 ! adding P83 brings nothing .. MX353 is really sensitive to reminder from previous use of other mones stuff .. do NOT use mones on skin for at least 3 days and then try MX353 with 1 drops A314 or 1 spray IG are you using supplements .. something like DHEA or Pregnenolone .. anthing that could influence your natural mone sig ? Testo replacement.. anything can be important … Stuff works at daytime as well .. but really shows it’s potential at nighttime .. Colognes do contain a lot of fixatives and some are even known to contain pheromones .. be careful with that stuff .. MX353 is not bad scented i think… hope this helps **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/201 "2014-07-10T13:52:19Z")
Thanks Pago. I will drop the P96 and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) while wearing this. Good idea. P83 seems to make a lot of the things I wear better, therefore I use it a lot. I do take supplements, but not as regularly as I would like. I will eliminate them for a week or so so I can test this better. No to testosterone replacement. I do wear colognes regularly, like every day, both store bought and homemade from essential oils. The ones I wear regularly are Aqua di Gio, Zegna Intenso, and Grey Flannel (not as much, too strong). I will drop these off for a while as well. Basically I will only wear MX353 and A314 and see what transpires. It wasnt that I was getting no effects before, just not very many and I didnt consider it hard hitting. I will give this a spin and report back, as I think there is something here. Will probably start this tomorrow and run for the weekend, as I am finishing up some P94 testing today. Thanks for the help! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472.md?page=9) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472.md?page=11)