# The OFFICIAL MX353 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [November 5, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472 "2009-11-05T17:15:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/202 "2014-07-11T17:06:03Z")
There should be a fair bit of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) in the MX353 formula already. I’ve not found that adding more helps. I’ve only found P96 really useful with higher dose 353/A314 or when steering IJ with MX353 - Hello Latinas/Cougars! It seems to help them over the status jolt, then let it out very nicely 😃 More sedate/sensible doses don’t benefit from P96 at all. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/203 "2014-07-27T01:47:48Z")
Been awhile since I’ve last been on. Solid combo as posted (my goto combo): MX353 2.5:1 or 3:1 ratio to IG (spray till lightly drunk, then add a tad of IG). or MX353 2:1 ratio to MX297 Both work well with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) at 1 or 2 sprays In both cases, also add Meo-est to 100mcg or higher (spray that on your clothes) For whatever reason, I personally find MX353 watered down spray per spray verse AD’s other mone combos. It’s always a massive amount of MX353 to a smaller amount of other steering mones. (I’m sensitive to personally ODing or burning out). Will try to get back to testing it with P96 (25mcg) and report. I’ll also test it with A314 again, but it’s easy for me to OD on A314 and turn into a critical bastard at times at two drops. As for none, I agree with Pago, I think it’s light if any (hedging light). With one GF if I have any none on my neck she’ll try to hump me all night, moaning in her sleep, sleep humping me, etc. With two sprays of MX353 she’s aroused, but only at the same level as half a spray of TUTH or AMMO (I’ve learned if I need a good night’s sleep when I’m with her, to go light on the none). ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/204 "2014-07-27T02:42:47Z")
I use 1 spray MX353, 2.5mcg [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/), 50mcg P86 and 25mcg P103 on dates, and before sex, as the best responders are women that are already familiar with me, it is not really working for me in bars and clubs as it is too aggressive, women react a bit edgy, it needs some social along side for it for women to ease up and be comfortable around me, it is actually a very sexual MX as it promotes touching, lovely feelings and women get aroused very quickly. I have yet to find a social molecule to use along side the combo for consistent results in bars and clubs. ---
**Author:** ![philckd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@philckd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/philckd)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/205 "2014-08-22T23:28:05Z")
I heard about this product and from what I hear, it does work. I’m buying it now but I am a little skeptical until I wear it. There is one bartender girl I like to have on me right now. Any ideas how to go on it and are the results almost instant? ---
**Author:** ![vanadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@vanadium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanadium)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/206 "2014-08-23T22:44:23Z")
Pheromones are not magic potion. You need to learn to work with them. A cute female bartender would be a tough target, especially initially. before you’ve learned your dose and a style to fit that phero added to your own natural signature. This is true of any phero/mix but doubly true if (as it appears) you don’t have any prior experience. Consider practicing with others for a few weeks If you have regular contact with her (i.e. she knows you) I’ve found it useful to noticeably change something (haircut, clothing style, etc.) when you first use the phero to ‘break the mold’ and give her an internal ‘reason’ for her new image of you. ---
**Author:** ![philckd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@philckd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/philckd)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/207 "2014-08-23T22:49:50Z")
Still where should I try it? I mean I like to have something that would work,plus I hate living in a small town that has nothing. I hate to say it but I like something that works the first time. ---
**Author:** ![vanadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@vanadium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanadium)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/208 "2014-08-23T23:13:47Z")
Do you know _anything_ that consistently work the first time? If so, use it (and tell us!) MX353 might well work the first time. I’d just hate for you to have a disappointing first experience, when you might have succeeded had you prepared more. One of the many skills one learns early is observation. This will turn out to be a valuable social skill in many areas of life, not just sexual. Pheros (sexual or social) just happen to be a conveniently tweakable variable that can yield different reactions than you usually get, and therefore give you differences to notice. With many pheros, you can try them out in a variety of settings, to see how reactions change, titrate your dose, etc. but for most guys, MX353 seems to be inappropriate for social or work (and sometimes casual social) settings. (That’s another skill, BTW, learning how to chose/adjust your mix for various settings.) You don’t want to hit an OD (Opposite of Desired). You can show up for a first date in a rented Maserati but if you constantly strip the gears or wrap it around a tree because you don’t have any experience driving a Maserati, she’s not going to be very impressed. Quite the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![philckd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@philckd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/philckd)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/209 "2014-08-23T23:22:05Z")
I know that..its just that I am a nice guy, I can talk to girls, but just can’t seem to break the ice. A friend I know tried that pherluv(scam) stuff and thinks he can get any girl with it,but I proved him wrong. I registered on here to get some pointers to get some advice and hope some pointers about it. I read the journals on here and all and wonder if that could happen to me too. I just wished I didn’t live in a small town and had real people I know that can use the stuff and it worked. I’m not sating that it doesn’t but I am a little skeptical. I just hope the mx353 will work, and maybe the guy who used PherScam will be able to use it too ---
**Author:** ![vanadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@vanadium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanadium)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/210 "2014-08-24T04:21:46Z")
Please be skeptical. I was (and still am, for each new product I try). But true skepticism is not just blind pooh-poohing. It’s a demand for proof. I wish there was a way to get proof of what works _ **for you** _ other than buying and trying, but I don’t know of any (_especially_ since I’m a skeptic). In my personal experience, Androtics’ Money Back guarantee and customer service strive to go above and beyond. There may be glitches, but they strive to make them right. You don’t have much to lose. I just can’t honestly assure the results “right out of the box” that you asked for. Human psychology and physiology just don’t work that way. As with everything else in life: skill, circumstance, and yes a little luck often determine the ultimate outcome. In fact, you _ **almost certainly won’t** _ score a bulls-eye on your first target. Then again, few of us end up with the person we first wanted, and end up happier with someone else – maybe someone who would’ve intimidated us as “out of our league”. You don’t know me from a hole in the wall, but my opinion is all I have to offer, and my results suggest that pheros can have a strong effect (going back to Jovan Andron in the 80s which played a big role in my decades with my now-ex [as amicable a parting as I have ever seen/heard], and created my fantastic kids) I would strongly suggest starting with one or more of the established consumer mixes: A314 and Ammo, maybe, though I also like Instant Shine and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). Turn Up The Heat isn’t for me, but I have a strong natural phero signature. It’s perfect for many guys, and can play a very valuable role in escalating from a successful initial contact. ---
**Author:** ![philckd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@philckd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/philckd)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/211 "2014-08-24T04:50:38Z")
I know what you’re saying. Not everything works first time. One of the reasons I bought from androtics is that I know they are legit and not the scammers that my friend bought them from. I was told by one of the people on androtic to get mx353 to start off. Kinda makes me wish I asked for a sample of Ammo. To be honest, I don’t know about mixing since the wrong mix drive girls away. I just hope I know what I’m doing..I do feel nervous about trying it, but since when do you be nervous for trying mpnes in the first place right? ---
**Author:** ![vanadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@vanadium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanadium)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/212 "2014-08-24T05:26:17Z")
If they gave you specific advice, I’d be inclined to heed it. They know better than I do. They’ve put in more years, reviewing more data – including inside info I’d never have access to. It’s always a crapshoot, but for the pure physiology, I’d bet on the more informed guess. The actual play comes down to you. (but yeah, I’d ask for that Ammo sample, too. It’s not too late) Dose often matters more than mix when it comes to OD. I’d start with 1 spray (though doses are usually set so 2 sprays is not typically excessive, you have pheros of your own). Make an impression, and you can build on it later. Just keep this in mind: your presentation must be congruent with your pheros or yu’ll blow it. That’s why I suggest the lower dose and a physical change (that you can ditch) at first. You seem to want this girl in particular. I want you to get her. But I’ve been in small towns from the Bible Belt to Asia, and not many have only one available girl well worth having. ---
**Author:** ![philckd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@philckd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/philckd)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/213 "2014-08-24T21:05:05Z")
If I would have known, I would have told them to get me a sample of Ammo..guess I’m too late for that now. I know i’ll start with 1 dose, but maybe 2 doses, but I think i’ll stick with one to begin with. What kind of physical change should I use? A new haircut, a shave? I don’t really have any nice new clothes and of course my workplace is not giving me hours at all ☹ I mean the girl is ALMOST like Selena Gomez, but I just wish I’d actually make an impression on the girl, I just wish I knew what to do… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/214 "2014-08-25T00:50:25Z")
> [@philckd](#): > > If I would have known, I would have told them to get me a sample of Ammo..guess I’m too late for that now. > > I know i’ll start with 1 dose, but maybe 2 doses, but I think i’ll stick with one to begin with. What kind of physical change should I use? A new haircut, a shave? I don’t really have any nice new clothes and of course my workplace is not giving me hours at all ☹ > > I mean the girl is ALMOST like Selena Gomez, but I just wish I’d actually make an impression on the girl, I just wish I knew what to do… You are **grossly overthinking this** - So the chances of getting any good from your pheros, no matter what mix are greatly reduced. Stop thinking on her, put some on and go-out to just enjoy yourself. I don’t care how good looking she is - If you stress about her, you will fail. You don’t need cologne - its already in a near-cologne strength scent. ---
**Author:** ![philckd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@philckd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/philckd)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/215 "2014-08-25T00:57:37Z")
^ you’re right. I just stress out over a lot of things. At least I’m not completely obsessed about her. I know you say that I need a new signature but I’m not sure how to do it. If I don’t find one I know I’ll fail. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/216 "2014-08-26T18:03:29Z")
A new signature can be as little or as much as a change of attitude - plus your pheros. In some ways it is in fact much better to make it less than a full and sudden change of style - That makes it look like you are trying too hard. You can then sharpen-up your act appearance-wise to make yourself stand-out a bit more over the next few months as you get used to all the other changes pheros can bring. You want to encourage a “WOW - I’ve never seen you this way before” response and that is best done via personality, with pheros in a suporting role to help it hit home. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![philckd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@philckd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/philckd)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/217 "2014-08-26T22:34:54Z")
I got no problem with my personality..i just hope it breaks more of the shyness and gives me a little more personality when I use it. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/218 "2014-08-30T14:34:56Z")
**Mix:** A314/b 1 spray, MX353 1 spray Location: low-energy beer bar I knew this was a risky mix for the environment, but I wanted to experiment anyway. Met up with some friends at the beach to watch a fireworks show. ~9 hours earlier I applied a simple mix of IShine and IH, so perhaps some residu, but not a lot. My new gf joined too. At the beach it was windy and cold. Everyone was wearing jackets, so I doubt mones had a lot of influence there. Anyway as a baseline: my gf’s mood was pretty good. A bit tired after a long day at work, but happy to see me. Lots of hugs, lots of talking about her day while we were enjoying the fireworks. After the fireworks we decided to grab some drinks. I knew this nice bar in town, where they serve rare craft beers, so I convinced my group of friends to go there. Upon arrival, I immediately went to toilet and applied 1 sprays A314/b and 1 spray MX353, both to the neck area. Went back to my friends (1 couple, 1 gay friend and my gf) and everybody was happy with the bar and the beer selection. People throwing respect hits in my direction for leading them to this awesome place. Good social proof. However… my gf - who was sitting on my left hand side - gradually evolved in a grumpy biaaaatch. When I got back from the toilet and grabbed my seat, she kissed me and gave me a lovey dovey look. After this her body language closed, and she didn’t display any affection anymore. She was very empathic and having good conversations with my gay friend and the other girl, but didn’t pay any attention anymore to me. I was just talking about beer with my other (heterosexual) buddy and having a good time. She gave me a slightly annoyed look. And at some point she even openly disrespected me when I joined a discussion she was having. All in all not too big a deal, but preferebly I want to prevent this next time. The next day everything was fine. She was lovey dovey again (wearing A314 + P74). At some point I jokishly asked her why she was so irritable the previous night. She told me she was a bit tired, but also that she thought I was being a bully towards my friends. I didn’t bully any of them… it was pure perception from her side. My guess is MX353 played a role (eNone OD?), or maybe A314 + MX353 was just too aggressive and high status for the environment. Effects on my buddy and his gf were good. Effects from gf and my gay friend were not too good… Conclusion: not a good mix for the environment. ---
**Author:** ![philckd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@philckd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/philckd)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/219 "2014-08-30T19:46:48Z")
Still waiting for my bottle of mx353…all they’re saying is that is hasn’t processed it yet when PayPal already processed my payment…this pisses me off ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/220 "2014-09-15T22:36:29Z")
**MX353 a players mix - I lost the girl it helped me get.** I was dating this lady that I got to know wearing MX353 recently. We flew to New Orleans on vacation to visit her family. I stayed at a hotel downtown instead of the family home and ended up going to the airport by myself after the vacation was over and never saw her on the return flight. I am a stickler to sticking with a mix that gets you a lady. Boy was I wrong here! She told me to ‘go hook up with other ladies’ when all I wanted to do was hang out with her the day before we were to fly back. I switched the MX353 mix to MX297 + TUTH to go on a Second Line parade in downtown New Orleans two days before our vacation was over, after she was initially upset with me for some insignificant reason wearing MX353. She came to my hotel from her family’s home early morning the day before we had to fly back. I decided to spray MX353 instead of MX297 + TUTH (which looking back she may have preferred). Himeros mentioned a “bully” vibe a couple of posts above mine. He could be right in this instance. She left me in the French quarter while getting a ‘hand grenade’ drink and that is when she told me to go hook up with other ladies. **I will conclude that while it may be easy to get a lady with MX353 you might want to switch out to something less ‘player vibe’ like, once you get the lady.** MX353 is a ‘player’ mix. I find it ironic that she left me while getting a ‘hand grenade’ drink. May be I should dub MX353 a ‘hand grenade’ to get the opposite sex but switch to a more comfortable ‘gun’ (another mix) when you do get her. Lesson learned! * * * **Consumer Line:** AMMO, A314, Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Honesty, Turn Up the heat, Instant Gentleman, Instant Jerk, Come Talk To Me Mix 2, A1 **MX Series:** MX297, MX301, MX330, MX353, MX412, MX 463-465 Project UF, Project UF2, Project UF2.5 **Putatives:** P75, P78, P83, P86, P91, P93, P95, P96, P102, P103, P114, P130 **Experimones:** P74, P79, TAC, TAA, TAF, TAL ---
**Author:** ![vanadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@vanadium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanadium)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472/221 "2014-09-15T23:03:03Z")
I think it’s simpler than that. MX353 is a sexual mix but there is much more to attraction and a relationship than sex. Since I was a teenager, I’ve always said “There will always be someone handsomer, manlier, etc. – but if you’re empathetic and fun to be with, enough girls will always find you worth sticking around.” I also wouldn’t wear MX353 when meeting her family. Not only would it set the wrong impression with them (trust me on this: sister fantasies are overrated. I KNOW), but it’d be the wrong dynamic for her at that time. She’s being pulled in two directions, trying to suit her family and you. I’d probably go with an IG or [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) base (Some guys might go more serious with A314, but that’s not my style with families). I’d aim to be fun and easy for _them_ to like, and let them sing my praises to her. If it’s a side of me she never saw before, so much the better, because I’m really like that, Pick something that suits you and her family’s dynamic --e.g is her dad (or mom or favorite sister) jovial, authoritarian, etc.-- but Seduction is not the right choice! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472.md?page=10) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx353-discussion-thread/61472.md?page=12)