The OFFICIAL MX353 Discussion Thread

I am hurting today!

This MX353 is terrible, terrible stuff - turns nights into crazy madness - shouldn’t be allowed! :open_mouth:

More later! :wink: :smiley:

Is this a predominantly enone based/driven formula? Some experienced users say that it is and other experienced members say just the opposite.

I’m no expert but I am really thinking that it is. I used just 1 spray from the togo and ghosted like crazy, chicks were getting the hell out of my way. Not good. Added 1 drop of A314 and got the same effect.

The released formula for the original MX353 had 5mcg None per spray, yes.

It was the steering that made it so interesting/useful though - and in the right environment, this will offset a fairly blunt dose of None but without softening/moderating it in the more usual way. :slight_smile:

Honestly i do not see much none in the current version of MX353 !

Pago

Yeah, I’m quite certain this thing has a stiff dose. Saw too many similarities with other enone overdoses I have experienced.

Question ..

have you ever used E-none alone …

Chem set Quality .. available here at the Putatives section ?

An overdose can be caused by a lot of molecules .. the effects will be quite similar ..

typical for a None overdose is that some guys want to beak your neck or women freak out in your presence and so on …

peeps get pissed to no end .. that’s what’s a None overdose is like ..

again .. there is not much if any none in this version of MX353

Pago

No, but I have used the following alone and they are all predominantly enone based formulas: TUTH, NPA, Primitive, Dirty Primitive etc…(I am sure LAL’s quality is just as good as Chemset)

Most guys aren’t going to physically mess with me due to my size. However, anytime I have overdosed on enone all except very old women get uncomfortable and scurry away. This is exactly what happened at just 1 spray of MX 353.

The response the other weekend from two women, after first getting us backstage then back into the now empty part of the building was:

“Guys, we are going to Iraq tomorrow, if we don’t get some sex now, its going to be a really tough tour”

Me - 3x MX353, 25mcg P96 and 3 drops A314. Suited and slick!

My colleague - Chief technician, sweaty and smelly from a whole day with various kinds of heavy AV/audio equipment. He probably had his own shop’s worth of natural pheros!

The four of us had been up in the otherwise empty gallery of the hall where the concert to end the event was going-on. One of the women had played earlier as one of the opening acts, the other was with her. Tech and I had gone-up there with a few bottles of beer to escape and wind-down from a very busy and successful long weekend, the women came-up after she finished har set.

It was a classic uninhibited none response, probably helped by having just been playing before a large, and lively audience - building over a pretty short time, from hair-flicks and coy looks, to edging their way along the front of the gallery to ask us something, then laughter and banter, dragging us backstage, then coming-up with a pretext to get us alone - Upstairs had been set-up with several rooms worth of couches/comfy chairs etc for the performers/speakers/invited guests, so we could hardly refuse to oblige!

Its not the first time MX353 has hit that hard and fast in the right environment, with or without extra None :smiley:

I am having a fishnet-clad backside waggled in my face just now. Readhead finishes work in an hour or so, then the fun starts. :smiley:

3x MX353, 1 IJ, 3 drops A314. :slight_smile:

I guess the P96 buffers enone quite well?

I don’t find P96 a buffer in the conventional sense - more that it encourages people to be really accepting/comfortable/expressive with sexual feelings (physical and emotional) around overt mixes.

What P96 does not do is dull the impact of those mixes on jot! :smiley:

Yes, most women who responded most positively have been on initial exposure to MX353.

So I don’t see MX353 as one for long-term use - Although I reckon it could be used to add the sort of punch to a longer-term base-mix that would help tip it over the edge.

Yes - Some of the basic fallout combos are also excellent professional mixes (sometimes in different proportions) but I had to back-off on using them because of the unintentional fallouts amongst married/attached colleagues - It became a problem and begun to noticed in all the wrong ways! I save them for very specific events and situations where they will be over and done with before any fallout is likely to begin to set-in.

Yes, 4-6 exposures is enough for fallout to begin to take hold in some people but hopefully you can still back it off fairly easily.

IS/IH is probably your basic fallout combo there and not one of the hardest hitting/longest lasting, so maybe try swapping the IH for IO, MX297 or just Alphanol instead. All of these are good social and social/engaging products and in non A1-fallout mixes, any significant amount of Alphanol is a positive fallout killer but will still promote a good happy social vibe. You may have to work a little harder to project an alpha vibe though but hopefully it won’t decimate your position too much. :slight_smile:

I don’t know Wolf at all, other than its a high-status product but whilst MX353 isn’t a fallout mix by itself, it does not seem to detract from any fallout mixes and I’ve had some alarmingly positive results from MX353/A314 combos that have included several instances of women getting very possessive and one woman (attached) going all-out for me and getting very gnarly indeed when she saw me with another lady.

MX353 also has a carefree/“in the moment” vibe that does help lose inhibitions etc and maybe encourage somewhat wilder behaviour too. Which could be a contributory factor?

I found 3 sprays MX353 initially with one spray MX353 indeed a bit intimidating .. :smiley:

have you tryed it to start with only with 2 sprays MX353 ?

would be worth to try out .. for me it works very nice ..

IG i like way more in this combo as it has more range and produces for me more pronounced IOI’s ..

It creates only good results with the really hot one’s .. the others are put out of your league ..

I did let the combo put on a friend .. hell he seemed larger than life .. incredible what an aura this combo creates .. really like a celebrity .. hard to describe

Pago

Hey Darko - good write up on MX353. I also tested this combo the last two weekends. I also got really good results but I felt 1.32b was too dominant IMO. Personally I don’t need to have people walk on egg shells around me.

Solo MX353 is proving to be a social fun attractant pheromone, great stuff. Lots of potential when mixed with an alpha product. This weekend I plan to test it with a Wolf combo. I always felt the alpha vibe from wolf was real smooth and not too domineering.

To answer the orig question ..

Ammo is way more well suited for a beginner ..

first there is tons of info on how to tweak it or steer it in whatever direction you want ..

and it’s the more flexible product in my eyes ..

Ammo you can combine with literally everything .. and this does not count for MX353 !!!

MX353 is a mix you need to be able to handle . do not think peeps that this is easy and you are willing to take the challenge .. !!!

If you are not already experienced with mones and have good game MX353 is not for you !

It’s like a Lotus car .. amazing for what it’s designed for .. but not for everyday use .. there is a BMW Z4 better suited :wink:

Get the Ammo !!! Or maybe MX297 ..

Pago

FROM MY EXPERINCES:

Ammo - Ready to go product - pretty much spray and pray to a newbie and they will get hits.

MX353 = has the aurora of a fu..ing rockstar - you need to calibrate your movements, attitudes and you actions to match the aurora of the mone. also this shit is POTENT! You will still get hits but more like “WTF something aint right” type of hit if you arent calibrated to the mix. I have found self effects are also a lot more present (i tend to swear a lot more, but in a smooth way, so i think), so if you are new to mones best stick to the mix which has been developed in a ready to go mix.. Otherwise the results may not be as intended…

Of course if you already are a fu..ing rockstar (or know how to act so) then by all means give it a go. but you are better off learning how mones affect you first before going up to a VERY potent mix.

MX353 = Touchy feely, Sensual, Crushy, Highly sexual. self effects diminish with regular use. 6 molecules I believe - rather exotic ones. Designed as a pherobomb-type product. Results were less consistent than AD had hoped. Works pretty good in nightclubs if you just want to get laid. Uses F22 scent. (Related: MX292.) If you are going to shell out a lot of money for an MX for nightclub use, I would say start with MX297 because it’s more consistent (though it’s a different type of product, more “life of the party mix”.) You can add heat to make that one more sexual.

Ammo = 3 molecules, designed as a young man’s cologne & as a beginner’s product. Works very well in combo with other commercial line products - Shine, IO, TUTH. Comes in Ammo, World Edition, and Summer Ammo. Commercial line products exhibit consistency in effects.

Summer ammo contains add’l molecules, one of which “we don’t even offer as a custom or in the store yet”. If I was going to get ammo, I’d prob. get summer ammo because of the lighter scent and add’l ingredients.

If you are looking for lots of IOI, Ammo does that spectacularly well. However I feel A314 leave a more lasting impression on people, though with less overt IOI. If you just want to see strong reactions, good or bad, IJ will get strong reactions that you can observe. Shine is prob. the cheapest product that will prove to a beginner that pheros can deliver positive results.

scents by special order:

Neroli - recommended for most products, very light and uplifting / antidepressant.
Akuto - very sexy masculine scent. Mature. A bit strong.
Grapefruit - similar to Neroli.
F20 - Himalaya by Creed, strong sandalwood scent, good for older man
F21 - Creed’s Green Irish Tweed - better projection
F22 - Creed’s Silver Mountain Water, flowery
F23 - blue summer (summer ammo)

Game scent no longer available - a few components in it where banned by the fda. Wasn’t this Melony/Fruity? This got a lot of hits and everyone seemed to like it. You occasionally see people selling game scent product in the trading post.

Ammo is F21
A314 is Akuto
World Edition is F22

Nautica Competition - same scent as ammo?

If you are starting out, then its Ammo by a very long head.

Ammo is a well-established and well balanced attractant product that is straightforward to use in a wide variety of situations and doses and backed by a double your money-back warranty.

MX353 in an experimental mix that sold without any warranty - Manily because it is an overt Androstenone product, steered by some rather exotic molecules which can do very well in some situtions but will be inconsistent and very likely to fall flat on its face in others.

Yes, FF22 is the World Edition scent.

mx297 - 2x, very social, I think this will go very well, maybe add 1/2 spray TUTH to this, good to go.
mx353 - I’d say avoid at work. good for bars if you just want to get laid
tac - sedative probably good idea, especially late in day. 5-20 mcgs? cancels out P75, and vice/versa.. which way are you trying to go, sedative or stimulant?
p95 - I don’t know much about this one, test solo, probably should be good
p79 - haven’t used, this needs buffering doesn’t it? isn’t this already in TUTH? a mood and sensation intensifier, it might be a bit too edgy for daily work use. It needs a lot of steering, like use a bit with a few drops A314 for ex.
p97 - this might be good based on what I read. test on it’s own first.
tuth - 1/2 spray max at work. You might test higher amounts around people individually to see how safe it is, but I would advise against higher than 1/2 spray at work.
ammo - I would avoid at work, but you might use 1/2 spray of this w/ 1-2 sprays IG… just because eNone is a bit high for work at 1 spray in my opinion. You might do one spray solo with one spray TAC. Don’t add any TUTH to it at work.
is - 2x of this should be great
ig - 2x of this should be great
ih - 1-2 should be great

I would suggest using like 2x IG, 2x Shine, 1/2 TUTH, the P95 test different amounts, and like 5-20 mcgs TAC for your work mix to keep things buffered. This would be my first strategy with these.

The MX353 probably won’t go over too well at work. Bad idea I think.

Alternatively, the MX297 at 2x should be great alone for work daily as a social - add in 1/2 spray TUTH to give it sexual interest, that should be enough molecules already. That would be my other strategy.

If you use the ammo, use it solo at 1 spray, or with like 1 drop A314, and 1 spray TAC.

With IH, careful about self-fx giving away too much private info at work. It’s also kinda expensive for daily use. I would save it for private affairs.