The OFFICIAL MX353 Discussion Thread

There is very much likely no chance to overdose with MX353 from one spray !!

How can you say that the mentioned products do contain none .. and how much none .. does anybody say exactly what he means when he says none .. there are many different molecules in the “none” group ?

Just because they say that it contains none ??

Try it as a single molecule and it will be eye opening !

Pago

I would be taking care with the MX353, particularity if it is your first time with mones.

This product is called the pherobomb for a reason. It is a very strong mix of physical/sexual mones & putatives.

if you look at the formula for mx353, it is pretty much -none + inhibitors + amplifiers + “beautifying” mones… It alone makes you a male equivalent of Heidi Klum nude, lol…
However, having additional female “comfort” mones such as -anol, -rone and TAA would make this mix even “more refined” and “attractive.” However, I think at clubs where girls are looking for some, this itself could possibly do some bad-a$$ trick though

What scent do you have for the Mx353? Mine is grapefruit (I think) and it smells very strong with just 1 spray. 3x would make me the center of attention for all the wrong reasons..

My list:
Mx 301
IH
TUTH
A314
P93

Still testing that Mx353 thing so it might get into this list though I’m not sure. Mine has really funky smell (I think it’s grapefruit??!) and I tested it in the office once :smiley:…err it wasn’t too funny actually since it was definitely not the place to wear it. So I need more weekends to test it out…plus I need to care for a sick friend so no mones around her.:roll_eyes:

Us more experienced pheromones users generally aim to shoot down the idea that using pheromones means girls are gong to drop their panties and flock to you in “axe”-like commercial fashion within a few seconds of meeting you.

That it is INACCURATE to say that after a few seconds or one whif of mones a girl is going to DIHL with unwavering I WANT TO FUCK YOU eyes. That the DIHL doesn’t go away, going at 5 minutes straight and she barely blinks. Just stairs with such great intensity that she’s burning a whole in your retna. And you, being the ALPHA MALE WILL NOT be the first to break the stair and look away. 6 minutes into it and few words spoken, she grabs my ass, rubs my stomach, buries her nose in my mx353 amped neck like she’s a druggie that needs her coke. SHE leans in, and I know right away - that first kiss is coming - less than 10 minutes. 6 inches away from face, she tells me I’m so cute. I look over, her friend turns away and pretends not to notice. My friend (formerly a disbeliever of mones) watches in the background in sheer awe. This girl WANTS me…and hints in not so obvious terms to “come with her” and leave this place..I tell her no, I’m out with my good buddy and to give me your #. She sighs in frustration and gives me a heart broken “fine”.

Yeah, that kind of thing is not to be expected. Newbies, that shit doesn’t happen. No way. Except sometimes it does.

OK so I totally fell in love with MX301, and given reports I’ve read about the putatives in MX353 I’m extremely curious and eager to try it.
Now, I’m no chemist, I have no place in my apartment clean enough imo for chemical mixing much less for storing the pipettes and bottles I’d need.

So I figure "what the hell, I’ll keep it simple, since each recipe only has 6 ingredients, I’ll order togo bottles of each ingredient in 1/6th the strength I want and dump them all into an empty 30ml and let it set for a week…yeaaaah I don’t think so.

I just did the calculations for making a 30ml bottle of MX353. For one, the strengths available for the 5 ml bottles don’t add up exactly for the per spray concentration…they all come a mcg or fraction of a mcg high. Now the good news is the RATIO’s DO add up so I can buy everything in 37.5mcg per spray or 75 mcg per spray concentrations for MX353 and while it comes up a little strong, it’s the same ratio molecule for molecule. So basically each spray of my homebrew would add up to maybe one and a quarter strength concentration…no big deal imo, I’d just be a little extra cautious with my sweet spot testing.

I have been trying to work out the cost of a 30ml of 301 but that’s a little trickier for me to work out the ratio’s.

However the total cost for me to do this would be 200 bucks…for a 30ml bottle. Bear in mind I’m not bitching or trying to give the AD staff a hard time…quite the contrary. I’ve been told a few times that the consumer line are the only products they really make money off of and that individual molecules, putatives and experimones are sold almost at cost. That means they actually LOSE money on products like MX353 for research purposes.

So first off, I don’t ever…eeeeeeeeever wanna hear any complaints about the prices of products here cause considering what it costs them and the ridiculously low markup they charge, frankly the fact that the shit is so good is about the only reason they’re still in business. I’m disappointed that some MX’s don’t stay around. I feel like I missed out on some awesome test products joining as late as I did but yeah, all I can do is jump on the wagons that come around from now on, and try to get as many of the good ones as possible when the chance arrives…at least till I can afford to set aside a spot for playing mad scientist with the stuff (this has become a hobby and is rapidly turning into an obsession lol)

But anyway, special thanks to Jas, Steve, John, Mickaelia MHarris and of course Jacob who always manages to know exactly what togo to throw in with my order! Between the low prices and the free goodies on top of gift certificates for newbies I don’t pretend to understand how you guys manage to stay in business but I’m damn glad you do!

Yep, when we launch the new cart, I’ll be back in the lab to formulate another batch of MX353. The new cart has quantity maximums (the “limit 1, limit 2 per customer” type of thing). That’ll minimize mix-hoarding and allow everyone who wants to one to get one!

We’re also building in the “Pheromone Squad” and “Elite Pheromone Squad” levels from the getgo to help reward the most aware of the bloodhound gang here.

With both systems in place, we’re a lot more likely to even release rare molecules and tough mixes. It’s been a bit too tough administratively with a cart that fights us about something that’s core to a “open to the public” R&D project like this.

While open, it can’t be too open. We can’t afford to just lose all our certain precious mixes or molecules to just 1 person, or WORSE, to people who don’t give feedback. :open_mouth: At the core, we really need to be able to offer some things to only certain types of people, don’t you agree?

There are a handful of mixes we don’t have to so strictly control. For instance, we have a plethora of what goes into MX297 at the moment. While we might not have those ingredients available always, we do right this, this red hot moment (Meaning: don’t assume we’ll have the same chemicals available a year from now).

At this present time, it’s just a matter of dedicating a chunk of time and labor to making it for you all. (which we have – there’s a new version, MX390) If it’s really in demand, we could likely make several hundred bottles available so everyone can get one, and get a few (just a few!) if they like.

On the other hand, Something like MX353 requires a lot of molecules that we’re running very low on. Molecules we’ll likely not see for months upon months when we run out. (Product development cycles on those materials is a huge, huge ordeal that takes months upon months upon months.) Molecules you’ll miss when you can’t get them in the ExperiMone and P series.

MX353 is an unusually pricey mix to make, since it’s a true “kitchen sink” mix that uses many rare and unusual molecules. But hey! Since we’ve already gotten lots of feedback on it, it’s really time to move on and try new mixes or variations. There are new variations we can make which will likely kick it’s butt in terms of effectiveness… especially if you guys fulfill YOUR part and test like crazy and tell us about it. The more you report, the more the brainiacs back here can rub their chin, say “humph!”, then innovate something better.

Remember everyone, quantity limits of certain MXs and Ps aren’t a marketing gimmick to stimulate sales. Seriously! We want to stimulate feedback, which then stimulates innovation. Feedback begets innovation. Innovation begets feedback. Androtics is about the new. When we want to sell the old, we’ll do it under a different name.

It’s honest to god hard to get some of the truly novel molecules. One of the world’s best chemists for these types of molecules has to set aside a block of time, and do an involved, step by step academic synthesis, checking every step with thin layer chromatography. He only does very small chemical parcels.

It’s not an industrial process with major quantities involved. It doesn’t look like anything you see on “How Stuff is Made” with the incredible automaton machines. We’re not building Toyotas or beer bottles. http://www.kuka-robotics.com/NR/rdonlyres/8139312E-F243-4956-AED4-02F8C0F9B406/0/L_R179.wmv

Instead, it looks more like what you make have seen in a college chemistry class. It’s a very manual process, conducted by a very pricey professional. “Handmade” chemical artistry, if you will. Then it’s titrated, mixed, labeled and bottled here, also mostly by hand. All in the very costly People’s Republic of California, ie - not in China.

What we want to do with these novel gems is stimulate testing & feedback from those who give the most of it. This lets us get on with R&D, and your kindly feedback allows us to learn, tweak, and update as necessary. Your feedback on new mixes and variations of old mixes shall eventually make some really good stuff that’ll make you all tingle. :slight_smile:

Jasmin

I made a commitment to find out how I react with Androstenone. Do I OD? Do I not put enough on.

I had decent results with MX353 but there wasn’t the follow through, probably partly my fault as well.

I decided to test it yesterday, I was gonna visit a friend and this place is notorious for hot servers and bartenders. It’s actually the same one from the previous posts I had here, for those of you who follow the Journal. I’m like lets see how Latina chicks react to this since MX353 is supposed to have a high Androstenone content. Well, lo and behold, she’s off this week. Whatever, no big deal, my boys are coming and there are still plenty of women to interact with.

My friend was off her baseline reactions with me, she was physically closer to me than we usually are. I’m not going to assume anything because of the type of friendship her and I have, but it was worth mentioning cause I noticed a change in baseline.

So tonight, I was going to the gym and I was bored so I said, what the hell, let me try out P96 and keep my testing up to date, and lemme break out my IJ.

So I did 1x IJ and P96 60mcgs. Nothing abnormal at the gym, I did keep getting looks from this girl one my way down the stairs, but objectively, from just going to the gym, I looked pretty damn good. Just sayin. So I text her saying what’s up (my friend) and she told me to come by, why not, it’s thursday, it’s going to be a long weekend, lemme grab a beer and catch some pre-season football. I got the same reaction from her as I did the other night, like she’s really close, which isn’t really normal for us, but it wasn’t like uncomfortable, it was just normal I guess. I’m gonna have to test it out again phero free next time I come by and say hi to her.

Regardless, now the bartender (really cute blonde), is looking at me, and I notice, maybe something happened, and I look she smiles and I smile back. She asks me if I need anything (standard stuff), and I say no thank you, then I turn away and keep talking to my friend. We keep bsing, and she’s working so she had to do her thing, and I was just sitting at the bar watching the game. Two of my friends show up, we BS, they sit somewhere else, two more of my friends show up, BS and they meet somewhere else. So I’m guessing some sort of social proof is there. My friend, she’s a looker too, so it always helps when girls see me talking and flirting with her. She knows it helps me so she does it too. SO the bartended looks smiles and quickly moves her eyes, as I’m saying hello, smiling and talking. Could be the IJ talking, but I know that’s a hit. I can tell BS from bartenders a MILE away, I used to do it to women when I bartended, and my partner was a female, and I know when she did it.

So I finished my beer, and as I’m about to leave, a friend of mine comes by. I joke with her and we were catching up. I cut the convo early cause I really had to get home, and she was with some guy so I didn’t wanna be like that either, as I was saying bye, she’s like, it was really nice seeing, you, we should really hang out. Now I know there are two versions of that, there is the (I’m being nice, and the I want to hang out), it was the latter, I know because, I used to get the former all the time.

I gotta admit, IJ + P96 might have some potential to it. I gotta try it again.

P.S. Remember I was wearing gym clothes, a hat, and more form fitting clothing, so I matched the aura that IJ would be about. I don’t think I can pull this off with my suit. But just sayin.

I love P75.

I don’t know why ENONE just turns women off or I don’t get too many hits as when I do socials and A314. But with P75 @ 2.5mcgs WOW, it’s so much better, more attraction.

I’m mid MX353 testing and I haven’t gotten too much out of it yet. I’ve been testing it alone recently at 1-3 sprays and I could get a lot more than if I wore AMMO. I’ve heard it was a higher -none content but really buffered, so we’ll see. I got another venue Fri night that’s the perfect testing ground for it.

paradox,

It’s a hype, that’s why we all want it. I’ve personally tested it, and so FAR, I haven’t gotten the hyped up results that everyone else got. I’m still open to trying it out, but don’t feel bad you didn’t get it. It’s not like you missed out on the holy grail of pheromones.

Now before I get attacked, LOL. I’m not saying that MX353 is not effective, I just haven’t found results my FIRST time using it, needless to say I still have to try it out in other environments to fully gauge the effects, if any, it has on me.

Thanks mucho!

crosses fingers that MX353 is back in stock soon

MX353 is a great one when you’re one on one with someone. It turns you into the most important man in the room. It’s a hard-hitter, sexy and uplifitng.

By the way, rooftop lounges in NYC are great.

hahha I love how it says pherobomb when you roll over MX353… makes you wonder what exactly is in it other than the high dose of P86 (I think I remember reading that?)

heh… i swooped a freaking 30ml just because I have to have it.

I wish I had waited a lil bit later though because I would have picked up a few of the mx353 togos. i looooooove that mx

Welcome John. Definitely look forward to an update on the successful mixes that have been out of stock almost a year such as MX353. Or at least the ingredients…

Decided to give MX297 a go. I didn’t realized I had a ToGo of it. It was partially used so I must have used it at one point. I think it was when I mixed it up with MX272 when I was in a hurry. After seeing all the reports of how awesome this mix was, I wondered why I haven’t used it… until I sprayed it on. Ohhhh yea… Akuto scent… Something about Akuto and that FF22 just doesn’t sit well with me. FF22 seems to settle a bit quicker than Akuto, but still they both smell a bit repugnant to me.

Anyways, wore this to night class that I’ve been attending and have been testing MX353 and MX292 against each other. Wore 1.5 sprays of 353 to neck. I’m usually there early cause for me, I either get to class really early or really late. Doesn’t seem to be an inbetween for me. Anyways, I sit in my usual spot next to the door so I can bolt when class is over. Surprisingly, the 2 females… well the only 2 females that are straight (3 women total) sit next to me when there are clearly other seats in the room. I’m at the edge of the row so its me, and the two to my right.

Class is slightly less boring than usual, but I still don’t find it too intriguing so I’m pretty much on my phone going over notes. Girl next to me is always bored out of her mind, playing with her nails, on her phone, playing with her nails and I don’t know what it is, but she some how keeps herself entertained in her own world. Throughout class it’s usually either the teacher talking or a student and it’s not really too rowdy. Every now and then it will get loud for a few minutes as more than one person is trying to give their input on something. The girl next to me doesn’t usually share much, but in the last couple weeks she’s spoken up more. In retrospect, she probably should just keep quiet cause half the time she says something she makes herself look like a ditzy airhead teehee type of girl. Anyways, she seemed very self conscious when she was sitting next to me. She had come from the gym and she seemed really happy. A few minutes after sitting down she looked at me and asked if she smelled. Personally I couldn’t smell anything so I told her she didn’t smell and other people probably wouldn’t either. As class goes on, she’d make small talk with me, and shows me her foot that she bruised up while doing muy thai for the first time and going into detail about that. Random things about her week. Near the end of class I hear her stomach rumbling. Like 30 minutes later during break it’s rumbling more and she seems to get embarrassed and asks me if I can hear her stomach. I lie to her and say not really. Obviously a bad answer as she proceeds to ask others if they can hear her stomach rumbling, which results in people in the class teasing her about it.

Overall, I’m not too sure of this mix. As far as IOIs, the girl directly next to me gave off a few signs. A little hairplay throughout class, whenever she spoke it was either the teacher asked her a question, once to make a comment about someone’s phone and to me. Whenever she spoke with others, it was a conversation I was having with someone else and she had jumped in to comment. For the other female, I didn’t really notice too much as she was pretty much out of my line of sight. That and 70% of the time I was studying off my phone for another class.

As for others, well… the class can be very talkative and it can be hard to get the chance to say anything. Usually when I go people talk over you or you don’t get to say anything regardless of who you are. Unless you’re the teacher or you’re talking because the teacher has asked you specifically about something. I found that with 353 I was able to get my comments in more, not every time, but more definitely more often. I would say normally for anyone, you’re going to get talked over or ignored 70-80% of the time. I’d say for me it was around 35-40% that night whenever I said anything.

Can’t really say how this stacks up against other MXs as this is a first run and I did have a mix on earlier in the day from LP. Besides the scent, I’d say it seems to have potential.

Thanks a lot Mustang! I appreciate the input.

This is MY GF hahaha, ye I mean we have been on and off for the past 2 and a half years. We are for sure at that point where when it comes to “frisky” time it seems so planned and not heated, like it’s a chore or something.

I noticed that when I actually still had some MX353 that it was totally like tearing clothes off each other unplanned action and needless to say that is what every man needs from time to time.

You are right though I for sure need to pick up some more of the Business Alpha type products as they are lacking from my collection right now.(I guess you can see where my priorities are)

MX353 is produced some amazing result with me and my gf without her knowledge. I am sitting on IO, TUTH and CTTM and she doesn’t seem to respond to them but has responded quite “vigorously” to MX353 and I would very much like to get my hands on a large supply.

I have tried a few different Mixes, and I have to say some I noticed some hits but nothing has been as obvious as MX353. I really want to get my hands on as much as I can of this. Worked wonders on my gf, none of the others I have tried had effected her like that. I am sitting on CTTM, TUTH, IO and would drop them in a second to get back in with the MX353.