# The OFFICIAL MX397 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [June 10, 2011, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673 "2011-06-10T07:51:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![RJS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RJS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RJS)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/1 "2011-06-10T07:51:31Z")

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**What is MX397?**

**MX397 - For Women**

MX397 is the WOMENS VERSION of the extremely popular men’s formula [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)/390.

MX397 for Women is re-formulated from MX297/390.

MX397 is vanilla grapefruit, premade with its own fragnance

**Status:** Currently in Production

**Get MX397 here** : [MX397 for Women :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct](https://pheromonelabs.com/)

**How to Test:**  
Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

**What to Report:**

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

**Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

**Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

**Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

**Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

**Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?  
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?  
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?  
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS  
Research Assistant  
Androtics Direct

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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/2 "2011-06-11T04:25:21Z")

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I just added the two new women’s experimone mixes to my sig file and realized I’m developing quite a little lab here.

Also given the notion that the MX397 is supposed to be a female version of AMMO (found that out in the store announcements forum just now), and thinking about how alpha I was in the gym today, not to mention how everyone was coming to me with questions, I’d say that’s some serious self- and other-fx! And that was with ONE spray, on the WRISTS! Whoa!

I’mma like dis stuff!

Tomorrow, 398!

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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/3 "2011-06-25T21:00:09Z")

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_sings_ “I am happy…oh, so happy… I feel happy, and witty, and SEXY!” And energetic and relaxed and all kindsa stuffs.

Today: 2 shots MX397 to chest. Nothing else except usual hygiene products, and a shot of Boyfriend perfume near the mones.

Weather: sunny, upper 80s, humidity high; possible storms (maybe severe) coming in later today.

Clothing: acid-washed jeans with bleach “stains” (deliberate), athletic shoes, and a light blue v-neck t-shirt in the same general tone as the jeans. Very casual. No makeup; hair in a ponytail.

Off to Vitamin Shoppe to find some more of those skin stuffs. Reasonably successful. Satisfied, anyway. Then back to the local Barnes-Noble to pick up some books (including one of my mentor’s books, and a gift for a friend) followed by a breve, and sitting in the coffeeshop reading one of my newly purchased books. (Finished it already. I read fast, and it was small and half pictures. One of those “an intro to the subject” kinds of books.)

Self effects:  
I’m not sure how much of this is the mones and how much of this is finally finding the right supplements to make me feel better, but I FEEL ON TOP OF THE WORLD TODAY. I feel energetic and in control and…well…ALPHA. But not in a domineering way. In an in-charge, take-charge way. Instead of feeling exhausted and sleeping until who knows when, I was up and out of the house before lunch! (Since my surgery this has been rare at best, and NOT voluntarily.)

Other’s effects:  
The shopclerks in the vitamin store were all male and were almost falling over themselves to help me. I walked in and started down the aisles, obviously looking. 2nd guy (1st was behind counter in front, big “HI!”) asks me what I’m looking for. Now normally I’d say, “Just looking,” and find things myself. This time what pops out is, “Skin care!”

He spun and led me right to it. “Can I help advise you?”  
“No, thank you, I’m fine.”

They have quite a selection; some of the things I’d intended to get, and some of the things I wanted they didn’t have in stock. So I pick out what I for sure want, and I’m looking for alternatives to the rest. A THIRD clerk comes by. “Are you finding what you want? May I advise you on anything?”  
“No, I checked it all out online, I’m just figuring out what I want.”  
“Okay, let us know if you need ANYthing.”

So I pick out my stuff and head up front. The guy who led me to the skincare aisle again asks if he can help me find anything (!) and the guy at the register falls over himself to help me out, ignoring a man who followed him back to the register after being shown where to find something. He gave me a free discount card, then forgot to ring up half my purchases, he was so gobsmacked over something. (Me? 😃🆒)

So I head out and over to the bookstore. Find what I want. Check out - very VERY helpful female clerk at the register.

Go over to coffeeshop and order my breve - “Do you want an extra shot? flavor? what size do you want? anything else with that?” - then get napkins, choose table, wait a bit, finally sit down. As soon as I sit, the barista calls my name (isn’t that always the way?) and I stand to fetch my coffee, only to find her BRINGING ME MY DRINK.

So I sat and read and sipped my breve (a breve is a latte made with 1/2 & 1/2 - num!) for about half an hour or so, until my drink was gone. Meanwhile I have men around my age going past my table and staring at me; other men sitting down at tables nearby and staring; a couple women looking at me like, “Who is SHE? What’s up there?”

When I was done I packed it in and came home, finished my book, read on another book, and got online to make this report. 😃 Considering heading back out to get cat treats (we’re out and he’s fussing). Also was going to see about taking down a limb from the storm a couple days ago (the one that was rotating with reports of a funnel but that the NWS office would only put out a severe Tstorm warning on). The limb is broken 2/3 in two - big limb, about 2/5-3" dia. - and hanging down. Why it didn’t smash our decorative lamppost when it came down I don’t know; it went right “thru” it. Unfortunately I can’t find what hubster did with the loppers, so it’ll have to wait until he gets home from his gigs.

We may have created a monster here. 😮:D:roll\_eyes:😉

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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/4 "2011-06-30T03:02:23Z")

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On the mone note, I went back to the gym today (didn’t go yesterday as per norm bc the weather was just NASTY - pouring rain, thunder&lightning, severe Tstorm warnings, flash flood warnings, etc. not to mention joint pain due to weather). I DID NOT wear the MX397.

My trainer gave me grief.

One of the gym workers interrupted our training session, trying to get my trainer to take a phone call for a potential new client, trying to get her to schedule said new client in on top of my session, etc. Basically all but ignoring me. 🙄

May have to start wearing the stuff anytime I step out the door.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/5 "2011-06-30T10:44:13Z")

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**MX397**

Got my package of goodies with MX397 in it. 😃

Used 1 1/2 sprays. This wasn’t on purpose. Once in a while the very first spray out of a new bottle only gives you half a spray. Well this was one of those times so I added a additional spray.

Applied to wrists then wiped wrists along neck.

It smells interesting. It was a little strong in the first minute or so but then calmed down to a nice pleasant smell I cant describe. I like it though.

I am off work today so my son and I went off to run some errands.

**Self effects \>\>\>** Nothing right away.

In the car I noticed my son was very quiet and moody. Now I can’t contribute this directly to MX397 because he is 17 and well they can be quiet and moody LOL I will watch for repeated reactions.

The Bank \>\>\> Had some business I had to go into the office for. The employee I was dealing with was very nice and accommodating but I found myself getting very annoyed with her. She wasn’t doing anything out of the ordinary to cause this. She was polite, friendly and helpful. As we all know in these economic times many rules have changed in the banking industry. I have been a customer with this bank for 20 years and they know me and it annoyed me that I had to follow the same rules as everyone else. I know this sounds ridiculous, of course I have to follow those rules but somehow I felt entitled to special treatment. I ended up getting so annoyed I walked out of the meeting. She ran behind me trying to appease me but I would have none of it. This is not normal behavior for me. I cant say I was cranky or mean. I didnt yell. I felt like I was projecting a vibe of self importance though.

So we get back to the car and my son looks at me and say “Jeez what climbed up your ass” LOL I was totally aware I was being unreasonable. Took some deep breaths and did a car meditation.

Off to the DMV. Place was packed but the line was moving along fine. Now the motor vehicle is a place no one likes to be. Oddly even though they seemed incompetent there as usual it didnt bug me. The clerk was friendly chatty and apologetic for the wait which I didnt think was long for the DMV. She mentioned I smelled so nice. I wasn’t short with her or anything but I didnt feel like chit chat. I just wanted her to do her thing quickly so I could get out of there. I did notice as I turned to leave there was a “parting of the sea” effect. My son walked ahead of me and I almost imagined him saying "Ok people step a side someone important coming through. LOL

Its been about 1 hour and 45 minutes since application.

Went to Town Hall to pay my taxes ☹ My son wanted to stay in the car and mess with his Ipad and I got a little snippy with him and said. “You may as well come in, you will have to pay taxes soon enough, you may as well learn now” He just rolled his eyes and said… “Mom I know how to hand a clerk money and I have gone with you a million times before” which is true LOL Ok I am being pushy. So I leave him there and go inside. The clerk is male. Very nice and chatty. We have a pleasant exchange but I think I spent a little to long chatting because the lady in line behind me gave me a dirty look when I was leaving although she did step away leaving a wide berth as I turned to walk out.

Crappy errands done. Now I cant say MX397 made me cranky because I felt fine. The errands I was running were not ones I wanted to do they were “have to do’s” that cost me money and would make anyone moody.

The self effect I most notice at this point is a sense of importance. I cant call it power but sort of like a self indulgent brat LOL I didnt want to be running these errands though so I think that coupled with the mix may have created this bratty air about me.

People responded fairly well. If I had to deal with them they were polite and nice. A bit chatty but they seemed to bend over backwards to make me happy.

People I was just in the presence of seemed a little taken back by me. They didnt approach or interact with me. I did notice one thing. Each building I left a guy went out of his way to run over and hold the door open for me as I left.

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After this I went home cleaned the house up, made sauce and went out and read in the lounge chair out back. My husband was not due home for a few hours. I applied 2 sprays right before he arrived. This is about 6 hours after the first application. I cleaned my application spots with witch hazel and a cotton ball for a clean slate.

Application spots \>\>\> Back of neck and wrists.

He comes in the house and first thing he says is \> Mmm smells good in here. I thought he meant my perfume (mx397) so I said yep its my perfume. He says no I meant the sauce but you smell yummy to. 😛 I dont know why but this sent me into a fit of giggles.

I still feel that sense of importance but its not as obvious now I think because I am with someone who is equally important to me. If that makes sense.

He is in a great mood and was very chatty. We had a nice dinner. He helped clean up which was nice and then we went out back to lounge around. We laid in the hammock just chatting or sometimes just being comfortably quiet. Nothing sexual or arousing going on just a feeling of peace.

I know he was inhaling a load of mones at this time.

My son, who had gone out with his friends when we got home from the errands, came home and the one thing I really noticed is how my son and his father interacted. We are all close but my husband is the alpha and the boys have a respectful wariness of him. He is not mean, never yells but he expects respect from them. My husband lightened up a bit and was more playful with him. There was a bonding and they ended up going to the sporting good store. They were gone forever and when they came home both were all smiles and told me about there adventure. Apparently they went for a ride around town and my hubby had various “manly father son growing up talks” with him LOL My husband seemed happy they connected because my boys tend to be much more close and open with me then there father.

Maybe some of my mones rubbed off on him when we were laying on the hammock.

That’s it for today. He went to bed and I watched watched “Most Haunted” on TV with my son and his GF.

So far my first impression is MX397 gives you an “air of importance”. It can lack warmth **if you let it** but generally people respond well and are friendly and chatty. Increases bonding with those your close to.

More testing to follow.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/6 "2011-06-30T21:07:20Z")

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FWIW, a hot, sweaty, out of breath woman pumping away on the elliptical trainer doesn’t get much of a chance to act alpha to begin with, lol.

I didn’t go to the gym today as planned bc yesterday’s session kicked @$$. So sore I could hardly get out of bed and walk this morning. Wanted to be coherent for tonight. I’ll work out this weekend.

What’s tonight, that I need to be coherent?

Radio interview tonight. Got myself semi-cleaned up and nice looking, even to wearing an outfit I might wear to a booksigning. Added 2 shots of MX397. Feeling good. Will add another shot or two of MX397 before the interview. Nobody’s gonna see me; it’s on the phone as a call-in. But _I_ know I’ll feel good, and feel alpha!

Let ya know how it goes.

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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/7 "2011-07-01T01:12:32Z")

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Extra shot of MX397 - interview in about 45 minutes! Excited!

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/8 "2011-07-01T03:02:40Z")

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Today, I sprayed 2 sprays of **MX397** to chest/neck and on forearms. No obviously noticeable self effects just then, though I was also running around trying to make sure I had everything together before laving the house.

An hour later I arrived at my appointment at the Small Business Education Center to get help with my business plan, an hour appointment. I was greeted warmly and the appointment went well. The woman I met with even extended it another half hour, which was nice, and unexpected. I felt confident and comfortable, and felt that my thoughts and ideas were respected. Upon leaving, the woman walked with me to the door, shook my hand warmly (though it seemed as though she might have even given me a little hug but didn’t out of professionalism), and even opened the door for me as I walked out.

Touched up with one more spray, then went to Cost-U-Less, where there were no notable reactions. At Safeway, it was the same, except at the checkout, I had at the last minute decided to grab a heavy box of beer as well (didn’t have a cart) and the cashier went all he way outside to get me a cart so I wouldn’t have to lug the heavy beer all the way out and to my car. Don’t know if this was an effect, or just store courtesy.

Back home, I went to yoga class, where there were a couple of older guys and an older lady I had met one before, plus the instructor. All were warm and friendly towards me, as they had been on previous occasions.

This one needs more testing.

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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/9 "2011-07-01T04:41:36Z")

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The interview went BONZERS! Possibly my best one yet! I was on my game and prepared and the interview just flowed! I read a book excerpt and the chat room for the show fairly came alive, and everyone started wanting to know if I did audiobooks. I’m thinking now I’m going to have to turn my books into audiobooks… 😃🆒

Lovin’ the MX397. It goes right through ethernets and airwaves! 😛😃

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/10 "2011-07-03T12:31:30Z")

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Been a busy weekend which is good for mone testing.

I was on vacation from work most of this week but a friend of mine called me and asked if I would cover for her Saturday because she had a emergency. I figured this would be a great opportunity to test out more **MX397**.

Two full sprays. 1 to chest 1 split to wrist and smeared up forearms.

Its seems to have a nice social effect on people. They seem friendly open and respectful. No real attraction cues going on but when we interacted I notice they try a bit harder to hold your attention. They seem to want to know how I am instead of me always being concerned with how they are.

However I feel less tolerating of people then usual. Normally I am quite sensitive to others moods, problems and feelings. I can see the masks they hide behind easily. I found myself calling them out on it sometimes without sensitivity. I dont like this trait its pulling forth. I found myself saying “I could have handled that better” a few times after having convo’s with people.

I found I was rather quiet wearing it unless someone approached me which is unusual for me and may have been what fueled friends asking me if I was OK or if something was wrong.

On the scent… I like it but I notice a underlying BO smell that reminds me of my sons pits when he doesn’t use deodorant. He noticed it as well but he thought it was coming from him LOL. Oddly this revelation made me realize that all BO is not equal. On a subconscious level I know this but it just made it stand out for me. When my husband is sweaty his BO is far different then my sons BO. They each have a distinctive recognizable identifying stink 😛 I did get 3 compliments on how I smelled though.

Got home from work and showered again and headed off to a picnic with the family. I used 3 sprays.

1 Hair  
1 back of neck]  
1 behind knees ( I had on shorts)

My hubby was in a great mood in the car on the way over. He was talking about a client he did a job for and although he was mentioning how unreasonable and annoying this guy was he still laughed and joked about it instead of letting it get him uptight and aggravated like he usually does.

Now this picnic had 300 to 400 people of all different age groups. My husband heads off to the Beer shack. Its so cool, this is my uncles house and a yearly event and he built this Beer shack. Inside its all decked out with stuff men like but on the outer wall there are 6 taps he hooks kegs up just for picnics. Its almost like a fair atmosphere. People from all over the county come for this picnic.

Usually I hang around those of my own age range and above and my son heads off with the teenagers to do there thing. We interact but they are not interested in the adults much. Oddly I found that quite a few teenage boys I am familiar with from my sons hung around me and went out of there way to stop and talk to me. They were not hitting on me or anything like that they just wanted to talk. Maybe because I smell like a sweaty teenagers pit LOL I dont know.

One lady who I didnt know seemed to bond especially with me. She has a son my sons age (17) and he was there with his GF. My son brought his GF as well and she was asking me all sort of questions about them. The kids were down at the pool so we walked down to dip our feet in to cool off and she kept pestering her son and his GF trying to take pictures of them. It was beyond a mom just trying to get a picture. She just wouldn’t let up… “Honey over here, look at the camera” “Honey do you need me to get you something to eat?”, “Honey the bathroom is over there if you need it” Seriously she said that to a 17 year old in the water with his GF present LOL. The boy was mortified and stayed as far away as he could. My son swam over to me with his GF and they hung on my feet (it was the deep end) while they chatted with us. They even posed for a picture for my new friend then swam away. Unfortunately this is when my MX397 bluntness kicked in. She told me her son keeps avoiding her and he wont talk to her like he used to and asked me if my son was acting the same. I said no, my son is very open with me but I dont pester him and treat him like he is 5 like your doing with yours 😮

Ok that didnt come out right LOL

Note to self think before speaking when wearing MX397 😃

Tisha

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/11 "2011-07-04T08:52:52Z")

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> [@Sillykitty](#):
>
> Today, I sprayed 2 sprays of **MX397** to chest/neck and on forearms. No obviously noticeable self effects just then, though I was also running around trying to make sure I had everything together before laving the house.
> 
> An hour later I arrived at my appointment at the Small Business Education Center to get help with my business plan, an hour appointment. I was greeted warmly and the appointment went well. The woman I met with even extended it another half hour, which was nice, and unexpected. I felt confident and comfortable, and felt that my thoughts and ideas were respected. Upon leaving, the woman walked with me to the door, shook my hand warmly (though it seemed as though she might have even given me a little hug but didn’t out of professionalism), and even opened the door for me as I walked out.
> 
> Touched up with one more spray, then went to Cost-U-Less, where there were no notable reactions. At Safeway, it was the same, except at the checkout, I had at the last minute decided to grab a heavy box of beer as well (didn’t have a cart) and the cashier went all he way outside to get me a cart so I wouldn’t have to lug the heavy beer all the way out and to my car. Don’t know if this was an effect, or just store courtesy.
> 
> Back home, I went to yoga class, where there were a couple of older guys and an older lady I had met one before, plus the instructor. All were warm and friendly towards me, as they had been on previous occasions.
> 
> This one needs more testing.

Hi Miss (((Kitty))) 😃

I got MX397 to. I am noticing lots of people walking me to the door and holding it open as well or just walking with me like they dont ant to break the connection.

It tends to make me a bit blunt though. LOL Well you know me, I call them like I see them with spot on accuracy… MX397 sort of takes away my sensitivity to others feelings.

I am looking forward to hearing about more testing so we can compare notes.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 7:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/12 "2011-07-07T07:36:39Z")

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Testing Journal.

Still Been testing **MX397** by its self with no other products other then scent cover additions.

I like the smell its not repulsive or anything but for some reason when I wear it I smell BO. Not really a bad smell its just has a musky human body scent. Could be the vanilla, I am not a big fan of vanilla scents. Despite my feeling on it lots of compliments on my scent from others though.

So far…

**MX397** seems to inspire people to be friendly, amiable, sort of socially enthusiastic not because they want to please you or make you happy but more to appease you. I come across as pushy and hard to please wearing it. Its almost has a Jekyll Hyde thing going. On one hand people are friendly and social but there is a underlying unease like they are acting this way more out of discomfort then out of comfort.

I would say the mix works great for getting what you want if you dont care about coming off cold. I find it shallow.

I am going to start layering it and see if I cant warm it up a bit. I am thinking TAA and Bnol.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/13 "2011-07-17T05:57:41Z")

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Well I finished off my MX397.

I would consider it a mild social type product. It doesnt put me in a bad mood really but it seems to give me a blunt laid back I dont care how you feel attitude which I dont like. Using Ishine with it fixed that for me though.

Having used AD products for a long time I will say it not up to par with there usual ladies mixes. There is nothing that stands out and says to me I have to buy more of this product. I can get the same effects from various other single molecules or products from other vendors.

Is it a total bust ??? No it smells nice and it mildly improves socialization.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![happycarol](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happycarol/32/788_2.png) [@happycarol](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happycarol)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/14 "2011-07-31T01:39:35Z")

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6:30  
two sprays mx 397, lovely 63 degrees, up to 75 today  
self effects: as usual, feel upbeat, friendly, happy and very active, want to get out and have some fun, MX397 seems to make me want to get out of doors.I have also noticed I tend to eat a bit less, it seems to make me a tiny bit uncomfortable eating, as if I am already full.

invited several people to go hike the garden paths.

effects on others: had about a two hour drive with two other people, man in front seat and I sat beside him, woman in back. He is a quiet and serious man not given to silly behavior and I had him just cracking up! He drove one way and I drove back, both ways were relaxed and fun.

Went to boothbay botanical gardens, visited all of the gardens and took a hike to a waterfall too. Lovely day, weather perfect,  
interactions with all people were fine, no hits except one time when I was saying “I will take you out to dinner, my treat” to my friends, a gentleman near by said" OK, when are we meeting up and what time!" but I think it was not a hit, just a lovely day and a flirty gentleman.

stopped for lobster and steamers on the way back around four. Man my age who was owner of lobster shack walked over to my table and spent a good amount of time flirting and chatting with me, while we were eating, overt flirt because he was chatting me up and wondered if I was a local.gave me some extra treats for dinner, corn, coleslaw, steamers , which I got along with a huge lobster that I had ordered. He said “I have a lobster every day for breakfast, and also cook one for my best friend, do you want to know who my best friend is?” “Yes” My best friend is my dog, he eats a lobster every day and loves corn on the cob" He was really trying to get me to chuckle and giving me some extra attention.

Chatted me up quite a while till the line of people made him get back to work, would have gotten his number if I was single cause he was that cute. The fisher men and lobster men are a tough lot. It is a hard life for them especially in winter. lobster men are a hearty group, sorta like pirates, but the life wears them down till at our age lots sre limping around, and they retire to other activities, like this lucrative lobster stand. He had one leg and foot that were stiff and he had a special shoe that was orthodic so must have had an accident, which are unfortunately common on fishing boats. there were two shacks joined together by a long clothes line with a bell on it, and the order was sent along a clothes line to the owner who had a huge boiling pot and the lobsters waiting,

Any way said goodbye to very likable and handsome rosey cheeked lobster guy and headed home. Nothing else to report tonight!🙂

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**Author:** ![happycarol](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happycarol/32/788_2.png) [@happycarol](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happycarol)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/15 "2011-08-02T17:25:59Z")

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5:30  
65 degrees, and rain clouds, humidity

pre pheremone: calm, contented, sleepy, not getting enough rest right now, but happy.

two sprays mx397 ( love this scent too)  
1 spray IO grapefruit cookie scent (love this scent)

self effects: I feel a bit more energetic, a little bit more silly, cheerful, calm and content

Today is another construction day, and so I went out early, got some supplies, killed a hornets nest and now I am in charge of the breaker switch, run errands and other non essentials while we are hoisting a new beam on the ceiling, under the roof line, and talking out a wall. The wall is weight bearing, and it is a bit trickly, too heavy for me to help so I am helping other ways.

effects upon others: While working on the construction I have been a bit closer this time to the workers because the construction is now inside the house, and I am within six feet or so from the four construction guys. I noticed that when I was nearby the were talking more with each other, laughing, enjoying themselves, but still working hard and doing a great job.the mx397 does not seem to be overtly sexual, however it sees to be friendly, flirty, happy, attractive. I really like the way that I am more noticed, but in a positive, respectful and friendly fashion.  
I noticed that I got many smiles at the grocery store today, and several men glanced at me when I wallked by. This is the way I felt about seven years ago, more confident in myself.

self effects: I went to the grocery store, picked up some food, noticed when I got to the check out that my choices were all healthy, although I did not realize it at the time. I have also noticed that I am not as hungry when wearing mx297, seems to distract me from over eating some how, as if I am too busy. I tend to not snack when wearing it, and dont eat unless I am really hungry. I have taken off a little weight over the past few weeks, which is good.

1:30 gave myself one more spray of mx397.

My husband is coming back today, what to wear, what to wear! hummm… want to mix something up. He has been working very hard this past month and is home a short time, he works out of state. From what I hear this was a tough project and he needs to relax and have some fun!

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/16 "2011-08-10T22:40:43Z")

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> [@Sillykitty's Salon](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sillykittys-salon/50897/13):
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> You don’t find that other people being comfortable with you doesn’t make you more comfortable with yourself?

Of course having others comfortable with me makes me feel good. But some products, such as MX397, provide a nice self-effect boost of confidence _prior_ _to_ the exposure of other people, which only serves to make those people’s positive reactions that much better! The MX398 seemed to lack that initial confidence boost, despite the fact that other people seemed to respond positively to me while I was wearing it.

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**Author:** ![runrabbitrun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/runrabbitrun/32/1832_2.png) [@runrabbitrun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runrabbitrun)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/17 "2011-08-19T02:58:51Z")

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MX397  
1 spray to the throat @ 12:30pm  
1 spray to the throat @ 2:30pm  
1 spray to the throat @ 5:15pm

The guys from another office were around again today, and more or less pretended like I didn’t exist before I sprayed any mones. Interesting. They became slightly friendlier after, but they were also probably more awake by 12:30.

I went out to lunch with a couple friends, who didn’t seem to behave any different - one I see every day, so it doesn’t surprise me, but the other one I only see very occasionally (during summer - he goes to college out of state). I was wearing P78 last time I saw him and felt that he reacted much better to that - nothing was tense or bad this time, but he was much friendlier last time.

The self-effects kind of crept up on me, I guess. I didn’t notice much, but after the last spray I was weighing some options in my head about speaking to someone important at the company to see if maybe he could let me know if he hears of any movements happening (he has before). Normally, I wouldn’t really consider this.

My plans tonight fell through so if I do end up going out I will wear some more MX397. So far, it seems generally subtle, but not totally useless.

As a note, the smell is very soapy to me - I can’t smell any vanilla at all? 😕 Also, I know some people have noted having less of an appetite when wearing MX397. I seem to be eating insatiably… so weird how that works!

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**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/18 "2011-09-07T03:08:05Z")

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Copied from the MX’s for Women thread

**2 x sprays of MX 397 killed a cranky.**

I spent a couple of hours doing what I do outside and everyone was polite and attentive. Fems as well as males; I found fems smilier and males more attentive.

It killed a cranky for me. Within a 10 minute period. I have yet to see any kind of crash effect on myself.

Please note, tho’: I don’t crash off IShine either; I’m not fully compatible with IShine and don’t get the up effects; but also don’t get the crash either.

MX397 hasn’t given me a crash yet. But killing a cranky is also worth it’s weight in sliced Csabai.

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**Author:** ![tinaN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tinan/32/362_2.png) [@tinaN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tinaN)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 10:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/19 "2011-10-10T10:08:05Z")

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Hey, quick report for the day:

- MX397 - 3 sprays (2x chest + 1x back of neck)  
Cover perfume: Bleu de Chanel

**Environment**. Indoor + Outdoor, chilling weather/windy

**Self Effects**  
Good mood, however I find the scent of the mix very offensive, it made me very uncomfortable sitting next to people without thinking about how bad I smell. Because I sprayed 2 sprays on the chest so couldn’t really do anything but smelling it all day (well the good thing is I kinda got used to it after around 3 hours). Besides being uncomfortable about my smell, I felt pretty good, just didn’t really cared much about things and felt pretty happy (a bit bitchy almost… well just a little bit 😃)

This feeling lasted around 6~7 hours

**Noticed effects to others.**  
People were happy and friendly as usual. I did notice people looking but I was too distracted and kept thinking maybe because I smell bad or because I overdid my perfume. I sprayed around 9 o’clock then head out, it was very windy and cold.

9:15 - The lady next to me on the bus looked at me a few times. Some ladies stood next to me and moved later on (not sure if it was the smell). The bus was pretty crowded. The guy stood in front of my kept smiling, some people looked at me but nothing really stood out. There was this androgyny person (not sure what their gender was) looked at me a lot even after we got off the bus.  
10 - My straight bestfriend was a bit distanced and didn’t really talk to me, she kept talking to my other friend.  
10:30 My bi friend was friendly as usual, leaned toward me during the lecture (indication of me not smelling like a fish like I imagined??? lol).  
12 - I noticed a few stares, a guy asked me if I wanna buy his cookies for charity, twice, because I walked pass him twice lol.  
12:15 - I went to the computing room looking for computer, there was this lady stopped me and said if I needed to use a computer, she had one that she didn’t need until an hour later so I could use it in the mean time (distance: about 6~7 feet) which was very nice of her.  
1 - During my other class, my gay friend (girl) and I were talking, she was pretty friendly and at one point touched my bracelet and said it looked very nice, we held the conversation pretty good, good eye-contact as well. The girl sat behind us started joining in our conversation after awhile (not sure if she is into girls or not but I kinda like her lol). When we were discussing in class, she was talking to the tutor but looked at me a few times (I was sitting in front of her and our tutor was facing us). Later I went to my tutor to discuss my assignment, he seemed nice and comfortable.  
2:30 - Met up with my friend for coffee, she was friendly as usual, walking close to me, in a very happy mood  
4:50 - We went home, my friend was pretty touchy for awhile

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**Author:** ![tinaN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tinan/32/362_2.png) [@tinaN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tinaN)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx397-discussion-thread/61673/20 "2011-10-11T00:54:45Z")

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I find it’s hard to keep testing the same mix while thinking what will happen if I wore another one instead haha 😃  
Trying on 2 sprays of MX397 today 😉

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