# The OFFICIAL MX409 VS Androstenone Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [July 28, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx409-vs-androstenone-discussion-thread/61952 "2011-07-28T18:35:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx409-vs-androstenone-discussion-thread/61952/2 "2011-08-01T15:48:32Z")
This is my 1st test with MX409 **Background** MX409 was sent with MX408 and one of these two MX’s has been touted as the replacement for **Androstenone.** I think that I am one of the fabled few who can smell **Androstenone** so I started with this MX409 because I believe it is the one without **Androstenone.** **Product name,scent and strength** MX409, not sure of the scent. It may be [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) **Application dosage and locations** 2 sprays on neck **Environment tested in.** Grocery store **Effects to others** Strangely, no effect??? **Self effects.** This MX made me feel calm and relaxed. I was just a little tired after wearing it. **Duration of effects.** 1 1/2 hrs **Effects from mixing with other products.** Solo (N/A) **Range** 3 ft+. Walking and stopping. **Time exposure**. Subjects: 40 minutes. Self: 1 1/2 hrs. **Conclusion** As I walked around the grocery store I made sure that I was stopping to give people a good smell. I looked to see if anyone was following my trail… The grocery store is not my favorite testing environment however, I knew the store was a good test site because I got hits here before ([MX395? Really?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx395-really/50107)). I also got an unreported hit at this location while wearing IG and shine. A woman stopped me in the parking lot to tell me that I smelled good. Today though, I got nothing. I felt as if I was wearing a placebo. I was walking, smiling and observing but nothing. MX409 needs further testing and perhaps it needs a closed environment. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx409-vs-androstenone-discussion-thread/61952)._