# The OFFICIAL MX412/MX413 (vs A1/Androstadienone) Reporting Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx412-mx413-vs-a1-androstadienone-reporting-thread/51816>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [February 27, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx412-mx413-vs-a1-androstadienone-reporting-thread/51816 "2011-02-27T01:20:13Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx412-mx413-vs-a1-androstadienone-reporting-thread/51816/55 "2011-08-05T16:44:45Z")

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I agree with you. I just tried mx412 today but not as a standalone, I subbed it into my mx297-A1 mix.

At dinner, I used it around a girl I usually use A1 with (she has a tendency to get irritable and angsty but apart from that she’s really sweet.), I found that it made her a little more (this is a little contrary to some of the [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) reports I’ve read though about bringing cool and calm to others around) comfortable in the “goofy” aspect, she definitely seemed in a much better mood, better than when I wore IS around her, but definitely not comfortable in a physical way.

Our relationship is pretty platonic but with A1 on she’s comfortable leaning on me (automatically) or with occasional kino. However with mx412 she seems to be more particular about me “entering into her personal space”.

I think mx412 is generally uplifting, its comfort but so far for me not on a kino level.

I’m meeting her again next week, I’ll try alternating A1 and mx412 and see how it goes.

> [@First test with MX412](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-test-with-mx412/51627/1):
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> This is my 1st test with MX412
> 
> **Background**  
> MX412 has been touted as the replacement for A-1. I have A-1 (from LS) and have tested it. The cuddly feelings and the PMS relief that women feel with A-1 are well documented. K-Train has an entire page dedicated to A-1 here : [Androstadienone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668)
> 
> **Product name,scent and strength**  
> MX412 Akuto Scent
> 
> **Application dosage and locations**  
> 3 Sprays on neck
> 
> **Enviroment tested in.**  
> Diner  
> **Effects to others**  
> My test subject was a waitress in a diner. She was exposed to MX412 while taking my order. I sat next to the register so she got several whiffs. She seemed perky to begin with so. No special attraction from her or cuddly feelings that women get with A-1. The female manager also used the register…ditto, Nada, Nothing. I’d assumed that they were not exposed enough until the self effects kicked in.
> 
> **Self effects.**  
> The self effects of this mix were so familiar. I immediately recognized the main component as being P130. My P130 report is here: [First test P130](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-test-p130/42352) . I also recognized TAA. The self effect were like mixing Instant Shine with P130. I have not tried it but I believe that this is what this mix is.
> 
> **Duration of effects.**  
> 3 1/2 hrs
> 
> **Effects from mixing with other products.**  
> Solo (N/A)
> 
> **Range**  
> 3 ft. or less. She was standing near me.
> 
> **Time exposure**.  
> Subject: 10 minutes. Self: 3 1/2 hrs. There seems to be a longevity to MX412. I applied it at 11am and started to feel the effects dissipate at about 2:30pm.
> 
> **Conclusion** MX412 does have a calming effect but there is no cuddly feeling (for the woman) to it. Is MX412 a good substitute for A-1? No. To give it that nice romantic feeling MX412 could use a dash (1.0 mcg) of none.
> 
> There seems to be a longevity to MX412. There was a really long drop period. It was not like the “sugar rush” crash of Instant Shine. It was like the slow parachute drop of P130 but with a touch of the instant shine “sugar rush” drop.
> 
> This mix has potential but not as a standalone. I really like P130. However adding Instant Shine caused an unpleasant come down similar to the “sugar rush” crash of instant shine. I would imagine that MX412 would be good in a mix perhaps with A314 and TUTH.

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