# The OFFICIAL MX417 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [January 27, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx417-discussion-thread/61516 "2011-01-27T01:20:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx417-discussion-thread/61516/21 "2011-09-18T11:03:35Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > Gotta agree with you 395 was king of the uf pack for me aswell but 391 was a close second . Interesting. > [@thebigQ](#): > > That is the kind of reaction, I am getting with these mixes but I did not want to rain on anyone’s parade. I guess I am expecting a lot more from these mixes. First of, I would like to say I was not a fan of MX391, I reported a while back that it was too intense (just like TUTH) and that I liked MX395 better. I believe there should have been a vote on the UF mixes. Dude, there totally _was_ a vote. We exhaustively analyzed every. single. word. from every report ever made on all UF mixes to come to that conclusion. You guys vote with your words and your posts. Different data emerges when we analyze your stories than when we call a vote. You’re more subject to psychological voodoo when voting comes in the form of a poll. All of a sudden, when there are cut and dry a-b-c-d-e options involved, you’re more prone to think in terms of what would make the pollster happy, instead of what you truly feel. It’s weird. It’s scientifically proven! Instead, we just listen to your thought streams and draw inspiration from what you _say_. We set a “design intention” for a mix, and listen to what you say so that our design intention matches up with the feedback you provide us. For example, after analyzing the types of words and experiences written about MX391, it more fit the parameters/qualities of what we were looking for in UF: intense sexmix, NSFW, intense attraction. Now, this doesn’t mean we won’t productize MX395 or do something further with it. What did you like about MX395 vs MX391? Perhaps you can start a comparison thread and start some conversation! We’d be interested in anything you’d like to report! We’d “listen in” on what you’re saying and let that drive the product that it becomes. ---
**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx417-discussion-thread/61516/22 "2011-09-22T19:52:25Z")
9-22-11 Pheromones Used 1S MX417 1. Purpose of Application MX417 Testing 2. Self Effects for first 5 Minutes Slight Rush like for a few minutes but then wore off 3. Self Effects after 3 hours Assertive, a friendly attractive aggression 4. Location Work 5. Environment Mid 70 F Slight Breezes from the A/C 6. People’s Reaction The biggest hits I got was from Jennifer she came up and greeted me and said how she missed me. I wanted to ask her about 416. For those who have followed me last week I sprayed 1 spray of 416 on her and asked her to report back to me if she noticed anything different. She said she really liked the smell it smelled like laundry detergent in a good way. She said it smelled alot better than 414 which i gave her a smell of a few weeks ago. The funny thing about this is when she told me about how better 416 smells to 414 she told me the exact date and place where I sprayed her at. Jennifer kept talking about how she likes her “Cream” warm, she kept DHV by telling me how good she gave it to her husband last night. I said you shouldn’t talk like that around me it might make you man jealous. The biggest hit i noticed to was when i was doing something on the computer Jenn had one of her hiked legs up on part of a desk so she was facing towards me. An alarm went off at work and I got up and when I came back to my stool she pushed her backside into my front side. ( she was exposed for about 3 minutes) 417 really seemed to be more social for me than the previous 414-416. I noticed it made women especially social. The one odd thing is to get the social effect women have to know you first. I tried to say hi to a few women today on the floor and got shot down. Length of Effects The effects lasted a long time 2-3 hours for self effects Tenacity Women seemed to like this mix and I’m now getting respect from the guys. Effectiveness 3-6 Meters it was close to the skin but could be smelled slightly from a distance ---
**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx417-discussion-thread/61516/23 "2011-10-18T17:50:51Z")
MX 417: It is the deal! (Part 1) _"\*\*“I learn to speak \… laying in Bed” she said, in a uber-sensual voice as she winked at me ferociously._😮 I just babbled some words out, she really took me off guard with such a remark. I’d been flirting with this one before, but something had just Turned Up the heat. … It was last Monday, October the 10. I was hanging out at my usual morning cafe. It is part of my routine, it is such a stable environment with a set of frequent clients (like me) which makes it as well the perfect testing ground. However, I rarely test sensual mixes as I don’t want to screw-up (not to bluntly at least) in the venue. It is my safe heaven for reflection and creativity. This waitress is new. She just started working there in September. I tried to approach her and attract her already. Even I have never made a move on any of the multiple girls that have worked there (this is about to change) I love to built-up some sort of flirtatious tension with the good looking ones. It’s good for the spirits, you know, wake-up, shower, go for coffee and flirt. There’s no better mix to kick start your day than a good mix of caffeine and dopamine. Last Monday it was a holiday up here in Never Land. I am in my third round of testing and I wanted to reply to a post of which was my favorite of the pack. To keep track of events I usually go in order round after round and it just happen to be MX417 day. I spray myself that morning with the sole intention to learn more about the self-effects. In my mind the real test was happening that night. \*. Nevertheless, it worked out magic with my waitress. There she was, chatting as usual but getting more and more sensual in her undertones. At some point she stop speaking to me in \ and shifted to \. I was surprised. She was sort of fluent. That’s when I asked her where did she learned my language. She turned around and immediately walk to the counter, the place was really busy that day. I thought she didn’t listen but wondered if I’ve just scared her with AFC interview stuff, or … go figure. I ignored her behavior and aimed back at my journal, when suddenly boom I heard her voice from the counter: _“I learn to speak \… laying in Bed” she said, in a uber-sensual voice as she winked at me ferociously._ Holly! I have master approach invitations, but that was a Seduce Me invitation in the open field. \ Time to upgrade the Game. … Could it be the MX? She was standing away from me, at the counter. I am not use to track hits from such a distance. I mean, there could had be anything between two (2) to three (3) meters in between us. Of course, she had already been to my table to get my order and bring coffee but she made the remark from the counter. However, it made me wonder about the outreach of the MX. A couple of minutes later, a young student in her early twenties walk in and as she approached the counter she immediately turned around and stare at me - with those IOI eyes. WTF!! Either I am radiating charm or this stuff is hitting far. The only thing that was going on was that, at that particular moment, the sun was coming through the window shinning intensely over my spot. Could it be that the warm rays of the sun were activating the scent and pheros and making it travel and spread across the distance? In my first round testing this MX417 I noticed that everyone around me got hyped with UF2 behavior and that men in my perimeter were behaving more seductive than usual. Could it be that the scope of this MX417 is as powerful as 2 to 3 meters? I mean, could it be that the high notes kick in at that distance? A few minutes later the 20 year old who was sitting outside and have stared at me from the counter walked in and sat next to me. I opened her and got all sorts of IOI. It was on! As she left, I got her e-mail. That was so easy. I mean, she stood-up, said good bye and she did that thing they do when they are wanting for you to ask for their contact info. So, I just went for it. Back to the juicy one, my waitress. She then told me a lot about her ex-boyfriend who taught her \ and some other things 🆒. I was astounded by her vibes and body language - if the place was not that busy and she wasn’t working that day I could be writing about how I managed, or not, to close the deal. Good thing, she’s there every other day and the door has been opened, I just have to cross it soon. I saw her again yesterday, and she seemed ripe to game but I was totally out of it and I knew I was not in the right state to close. Patience is a virtue of the great hunters - I told myself. In any case, the reason I was in such a state of ‘decay’ has to do with the aftermath of events this past weekend. And yesterday, I needed to process what just went on during the weekend at a friends wedding. The spell of MX417, a drop of A314 and a back-neck spray of Mx413… and Wine. I mean I am mesmerized about what went on, but I need still to debrief, work out what was what, and unfortunately do some fire control. Lesson learned, don’t seduce four women in the same social circle, the same night: close kiss one of them, contact-dance with an other (in front of her boyfriend!), seduce the brides ex-roommate and promise romance to the sister of the bride’s co-worker. The day after they all expect you to close the deal… at the close friends and family brunch (except the one with the boyfriend of course) and when the magic curtain falls down it can back fire, badly. Particularly if during the night you happened to AMOG, unintentionally, the Best Man and the brides brother. I feel swamped in deep shit after tasting the glories of heaven… but I should continue that story later. Still, when it comes to Testing my nominee for best MX of the set in open social environments is: MX417, all the way. P.S. In a more close and intimate environment I might still prefer an other MX of the set, but I still need some irrefutable data to state so.\* ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx417-discussion-thread/61516/24 "2011-10-18T21:58:08Z")
> [@Vangelis](#): > > The spell of MX417, a drop of A314 and a back-neck spray of Mx413… and Wine. That’s 1 drop of A314, 1 spray of 417, and 1 spray of 413, V? Sounds pretty POTENT!😉 ---
**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx417-discussion-thread/61516/25 "2011-10-18T22:41:39Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > That’s 1 drop of A314, 1 spray of 417, and 1 spray of 413, V? It was indeed two (2)sprays of MX417 to the front of the neck (UF2 I’ve always tested two as requested by John), one (1) drop of A314 lower jaw, and one spray of MX413 to the back of the neck (this is key because I do get the Blues with this one). 🙂 I first applied the MX’s + A314 around 3:45pm, the wedding ceremony was at 4pm. At some point of the night, when a friend call me out on my behavior (contact dancing with the guys girlfriend), I refreshed the MX417 and MX413, same dosage, but not the A314. By then I am guessing it was a little bit past midnight. I did it almost in front of her, as an act of rebellion, I guess. Maybe it was just the wine in dreadful combination with the mix of mxs and the cave man thrill of feeling on top of it at the moment (so i thought)… but I am getting ahead of the story, maybe on Friday I’ll have time to tell. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx417-discussion-thread/61516.md?page=1)