# The OFFICIAL MX419 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [January 27, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518 "2011-01-27T01:20:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![RJS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RJS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RJS)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/1 "2011-01-27T01:20:13Z")

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**What is MX419?**

MX419 is the part of the **New UF2 Pack.**

AWESOMENESS ADVISORY: THE ‘PROJECT UF EXPERIMENT’ HAS ENTERED PHASE 2!

**Status:**  **Not Currently in Production**

**Request MX419 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com)

**Quote from original Release Thread August 12th, 2011]:**

> [@](#):
>
> Now the new experiment has begun: MX414 - MX419  
> Each of these MXs in the pack have the same formula of MX391 but with varying diffusion modifiers and diffusion packages. These can also effect how the pheromones work as well.

> **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/new-project-uf2-mix-pack-mx414-56485.html)**
>
> Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life

**How to Test:**

Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

Strength- How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

**Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

**Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

**Effectiveness & Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

**Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?  
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?  
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?  
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS  
Research Assistant  
Androtics Direc

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**Author:** ![magus808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@magus808](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magus808)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/2 "2011-02-22T08:39:42Z")

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2 Sprays MX419 (one to each side of the neck)

Went to the mall today to walk around. No noticeable hits. Although when I got home my cat was all over me.

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**Author:** ![Marc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@Marc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marc)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/3 "2011-08-22T10:43:08Z")

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Tested MX 419 at 2 sprays a day for the past 4 days. Variation of application points between the base of the throat, the sides of the neck and back of the hands.

Locations included local post office, police station custody block, family meal at restaurant, coffee bar and gym.

No stand out self effects, maybe a little none-type boosting (manifesting itself in “strutting”), then again maybe not - I may just have been feeling good lately.

No discernible effects on others, save my partner is very cuddly with this. Cuddle effects are lasting about 4-5 hours.

Very light fragrance, close to un-fragranced.

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**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/4 "2011-08-28T02:05:04Z")

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I put on **two sprays of MX419** (one to wrists, one to neck) last night around 11 to just walk around and interact with the incoming drunk people on campus. I grabbed a slice of pizza from a pizza place near the bar and the girl at the window, a cute, pale redhead of about 23, joked about how much money I had on my student card when she rang it up, saying I must have made bank. I got a lot of big smiles and eye contact from her and she told me to have a great night.

As I was walking around, I got a text from a friend of mine asking if I could help her move some of her things, since she was moving into her dorm the next day. I said sure and showed up. Another girl was with her, and the group dynamic was pretty relaxed. I hit it off with her friend fairly quickly and the group banter tended to a jokingly sexual feel. Eventually, we ended up at my friend’s house and had a couple shots of tequila and triple sec. My friend and I used to be head over heels for one another, and in a lot of ways, we still are, but she is currently dating someone and we have to be careful around one another as we are essentially magnetic together. I noticed that as her friend was talking about relationships and whether or not there might be such a thing as “the one” or even multiple such people for a person, that my friend kept looking at me.

Eventually, we were both getting really tired, so I texted my friend saying that she hadn’t seen my room yet, implying that I was ready to leave. She quickly told her friend that she was getting really tired and still needed to bring me back to my dorm. We got to my room and ended up cuddling and having really deep conversation about our feelings about the world and, implied, about each other. After a while, we made out for a bit, but neither of us would let things go past that, even though I know we both really wanted to. (We’ve been intimate before.) _It was really difficult. Engh._ I don’t know how much MX414 contributed, since she is an old and ongoing flame, but we both seemed significantly less tense and comfortable with the situation than we sometimes are. I felt very close to her and said things I normally would have avoided simply because I would worry that they wouldn’t make sense outside my head, but she seemed to understand without extra explanation.

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**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/5 "2011-09-06T13:08:21Z")

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**1. Pheromones Used**  
3S MX419

**2. Purpose of Application**  
MX419 Testing

**3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes**  
Centering, slight perkiness

**4. Self Effects after 3 hours**  
I am ‘The Man’. Not too aggressive but definitely masculine, cool. Not a _OMG-I’M-SO-AWESOME_ feeling like the original MX297 but nice.

**5. Location**  
Restaurant

**6. Environment**  
Air conditioned. Our party was spaced about 7 feet apart

**7. People’s Reaction**  
Slow Burn on this one. I’d have lots of looks and glances from any women within the phero-cloud. Lots of friendliness and chattyness from people I was with.

The girl I’d come with seemed happy, lots of touching and closeness which got slowly more intense as the evening wore on. Eventually she turned to me and whispered in my ear a simple heated “I want you”, which was nice… The smell dries down very “clean” for me, almost too clean in that I’m not sure if it’s there any more power in it. The temptation is to use more than two sprays and re-apply during the evening. Just one of the learning points around the new scent system.

I’ve gotten some DIHL with this, with one girl not breaking eye contact even when I stared back. It was like some Olympic staring competition and she won in the end, I just couldn’t switch off my embarrassment enough.

I perceive that the range for this is less but that could be due to me not smelling it as strongly and therefore assuming it’s fading in it’s power/range.

I didn’t notice any different behaviour from men, although there was some deference from waiters and barmen (which I can’t tell if it was more than the usual).

**Summary:**  
MX419: I like. 🙂 If I had to describe it to a someone who’s not used it before I would paraphrase that to me it’s _“like MX297 but sexier, like MX297 with P75 and some -none.”_

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**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/6 "2011-09-06T13:27:23Z")

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> [@oom](#):
>
> **Summary:**  
> MX419: I like. 🙂 If I had to describe it to a someone who’s not used it before I would paraphrase that to me it’s _“like MX297 but sexier, like MX297 with P75 and some -none.”_

Just to add. I’ve used this at work (1 Spray) with no ill-effects. I find it’s energizing to me and those around me. It’s not so -none heavy that it’s unsuitable at work, but this is a very personal test as at my age I’m not making as much natural -none as your average 20 year-old who is half my age.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/7 "2011-09-06T14:57:25Z")

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I tested out MX419 the other night.

I sprayed the half spray on my wrist just to check the scent out and see how it was. I applied 1x a peice to the sides of my neck totalling 2.5 sprays total. However I was wearing a long sleeved shirt so you can negate the effects of the half spray on the wrist. It was a very sweet smelling scent that was still pretty noticeable 1 - 1.5 hours after the application.

During closed air environments, it was very evident that the effects had more of a closeness/bonding effect. While not neccessarily garnering any attraction hits, the females I interacted with had the semblence of respect hits. I noticed body positioning congruent with mine, attentive looks, and deferrence when it came down to the conversation. I had a friend tell me a secret not a lot of people knew about. We’re not even close that would warrant her telling me.

I also noticed this had no negative reaction with the guys I was hanging out with, this produced a lot of the bnol effects I’ve experienced over the years.

My guess, using a different synthesis of Androstenol (alpha or beta) or equivalent effects (maybe in the putative series) and this is overpowering the intended effects of the MX391 baseline.

The reason I say this is that project UF is supposed to be in your face, and like MX414 and 416 so far, those of MX419 haven’t.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/9 "2011-09-06T15:00:04Z")

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> [@oom](#):
>
> Just to add. I’ve used this at work (1 Spray) with no ill-effects. I find it’s energizing to me and those around me. It’s not so -none heavy that it’s unsuitable at work, but this is a very personal test as at my age I’m not making as much natural -none as your average 20 year-old who is half my age.

But project UF’s intended effects should be way off from [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/), so far MX419, too social, IMO.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/10 "2011-09-29T23:49:09Z")

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> [@Vangelis](#):
>
> I tested a lot this mix last week (3 days in a row). It totally does something but not necessarily what her previous sisters do. The reactions I got from ladies were kind of awkward. Indeed, I might even venture to say that it has some sort of adverse effect.
> 
> Example: Last Wednesday I walked into a dance practice and a former dancing partner was there. She stayed for a while to dance but all the time she kept her distance in the embrace, which seemed not natural at all. It was really weird. In the pauses in between songs she kept looking at me with some distrust at the same time she scratched her nose.
> 
> After three days testing it I will say it makes ladies acknowledge your presence, big time, but there’s something that keeps them distant.
> 
> These are my two hypothesis:
> 
> a) There is some sort of “inconsistent” effect between mone and behavior. MX414 to 416 make me act in a happy-go-lucky I want to play seduce kind of way. However this one, has more a tough feeling. Maybe ladies sense the none vibe (which they might like) but when they look at me don’t find the congruent matching behavior they senses expect.
> 
> b) I should stop wearing cologne on top of the mx. Maybe the mixed sent turns out to be to much to bare with.

Have you been noting how the mix is causing **YOU** to act, Sir V?

I snatched up the pack KNOWING I wasn’t the best of testers … Sorry John … but I had to have it.

**YESTERDAY:** I first hit myself with **414** , and I smelled mold and mildew. What the!?!?!?! Nothing to report, as the gym was my testing ground, and it has been slack for a while.

Two sprays of **419** : Made a pizza order by phone. The young lady, got sick, and someone else grabbed the phone to complete my order.

I get there to pick up my pizza … it’s not ready. There was a young lady at the pick up stand … Caucasian, maybe 18, may 19 … who knows!?

I say, **“ARE YOU THE LADY THAT LEFT ME HANGING ON THE PHONE?”** (jokingly)

**YES, I GOT SICK. I’M SORRY.**

**WELL, DO I GET A FREE PIZZA?**

She laughs, **NO.**

I move away from the window, out of her view, so other people can order, pick up their order. I hear

**HEY! HEY YOU!**

I peep around the corner, and she’s talking to me.

**YES, DEAR.**

And she explains all that happened when she got sick. What the!?!?!?

**TODAY:** I ran **419** again. I love the scent! 2 1/2 sprays.

Had to make a trip to a car parts dealer. I pull up, and there’s this THICK BODY chocolate-coated 5’11" or so, nice round mounds for toilet grippers, just outside of the door. She works there, and she’s on her way in.

For some reason, as though I called her name, she turns and looks at me just before she walks in the door. BUSTED! Eyes were on her bootay! She smiles, and walks in. I walk in, and you can tell she’s waiting for me, so she can help me. She had the body designed for a Thanksgiving treat, but the face fit for Holloween … BOO YA’LL! BOOOOO!

She helps me out, I get my flirt on, and then she says, YOU DON’T REMEMBER ME DO YOU?

**AH, NO.**

**I’M \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ SISTER.**

**OOOOOH! I WAS WONDERING WHERE I HAD SEEN YOU BEFORE.**

Out from the back counter, walks this fine four foot something chocolate-coated feline, finer than duck butter! Thick! Cute! Would fit nicely between a biscuit! I know her from the last visit, and we’ve chatted a lot, but she’s never ever, never ever, hugged me.

**DID I WAKE YOU?** She laughs, and says, **NO**. She walks up to me and gives me a hug. Oh! My! Goodness! Bow-ner!!!

I make her laugh, she goes back to her counter around the back. I finish my business, and I’m thinking I better go say good-bye, Miss Juicy gave me a hug.

I go back, we chat, she’s laughing, and my hand finds her forearm, then her bicep, then her traps … I was getting away with KINO MURDER!!! And she just laughed and smiled as I fed my mental naughtiness of how she’d look and taste so damn delicious smeared with honey mustard sauce! _ **NO BIB REQUIRED** _, people!!! Yeah, I’m that good!

No number, no kiss, but mentally … I’M IN THE MONEY! I’M IN THE MONEY! I will be seeing her again! SOON!

Now, was it **MX419**? It could have been.

Could it have been my dress … nope! Sweatpants and t-shirt.

Could it have been the Certs I had in my mouth? Tis possibo! Grape-flavored, baby!

Will I find out later on, what it really was? I intend to!!

To be continued …

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**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/11 "2011-09-30T18:32:16Z")

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First and foremost: Great report and great reporting M&M. I like your style and colors. Fun.

> [@M\_M](#):
>
> Have you been noting how the mix is causing **YOU** to act, Sir V?

I read your question last night as I was getting ready to leave. So, I change my test MX for the night and got the MX419 out again. This time though, I tried the MX with no extra cologne or scent.

> [@M\_M](#):
>
> I love the scent! 2 1/2 sprays.

I can’t really handle the scent. It is like a light sugar Bubblegum.

In any case, I did the test to answer the Self-Effect question and validate/cancel my hypothesis:

Yes, it has the same effect in the sense of a good mix of: personal sexual drive and I am having fun being myself BUT I don’t like the scent. I guess this has been affecting my behavior as I feel I smell like a child chewing a Bubblegum (which really bothers me) or someone that just ate a Sugar Ball at the towns fair.

To get rid of that scent I have been applying more cologne than with the others. That might half-validate my hypothesis.

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**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/12 "2011-09-30T21:50:52Z")

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MX419 is the Last One I have to Test… If I had to Rank Over All Effectiveness from Best to Worst it Look Like This… How would Others Rank These?!?  
1\> MX418  
2\> MX416  
3\> MX414  
4\> MX415  
5\> MX417

I’m Doing My Final Test on MX418 Tonight to Replicate Results… So Far it’s 4 outta 4 in My Tests… 2-3 Sprays has Been Tested with and Without a Cover Scent… As a Final Test Just for Fun I’m Using it in a Small Mix (3 Products Total in Small Amounts)…

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**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/13 "2011-10-01T06:39:46Z")

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\*\*Date: 25-29th Sept 2011

1. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) Used\*\*  
1S MX419

**2. Purpose of Application**  
MX419 Testing

**3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes**  
No more rush, built resistance to package.

**4. Self Effects after 3 hours**  
Smooth, smooth talker.

**5. Location**  
Campus, cafes, clients meetings.

**6. Environment**  
Air conditioned room. Malls. Bars.

**7. People’s Reaction**  
This week was in a sense, spiritual and a more relaxed undertone.

Gradually build relationships and mended old ones.

Campus was empty as it was the holidays for students, so staff was also not there.

It was a week of calmness, not much happening.

Hit up the night at bars, moving into the minds of people.

MX419  
Just what the heck is with this scent package? I did not expect this as compared to MX414-MX418.

First 5 minutes after dry down, -none scent disappeared but it was replaced with a strange scent of fruitiness.

It was bearable. More feminine than manly.

Anyway, campus wise, it hit the students hard. Was able to communicate effectively and fast. Stopped and hooked and ended things fast. Things just moved more effectively as compared to the past month.

Not wasting time, hit up the bars and clubs in the evenings. Was able to easily demonstrate Alpha status to old relationships and friends. Like a chameleon, hit them with the amount of rapid change I went through in just a short time span of 3 months.

Starting to know more places and build more rapport with newer people and restaurants, connections are growing rapidly. Jumping from places to places.

Life is getting stale even though its growing, its time to hit my life with another change of pace soon.

**8. Summary**  
**Strength**  
After dry down, only slight scent, scent came back after 2 hours. There is an underlying scent, very similar to neroli type, comfortable. But it seems like a mix of neroli in socials, not neroli with -none. So I guess it scores well in this area.

**Length of Effects**  
Does not compound. Great for hooking. Effects stay and linger but wears off when they move away.

**Tenacity**  
Hits great on both males and females. But withdraws when you leave. Memorable and different.

**Effectiveness**  
Only effective when they are close to you, not so when they leave your cloud.

**Diffusion/Silage**  
Cloud effect, you affect the whole group and a whole.

1. Good for first encounters.
2. Very social as compared to the rest.
3. Easy going.
4. Not as sexual.
5. Buddy vibe from existing relationships.

Taken from: [Journal Entry : 25th-29th Sept, 2011](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-oasis-files-one-mans-search-for-art-and-science/50140/96)

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/14 "2011-10-01T15:55:52Z")

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I have had so much weird things happen to me that some day I’ll write a book and it will be seen as fiction.  
Now, these mones seem to amplify my odd karma and send even more demented shit my way.

I love it.

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**Author:** ![magus808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@magus808](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magus808)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/15 "2011-10-14T06:02:02Z")

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Today at work, wearing my usual A314, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), and instead of IH i decided to use MX419. Got a lot of flirting by one of my technician girls. She kept coming by asking me how long I’ve been married. I can see why wearing -none at work is bad. I can’t do anything because she works for me.

First and last time I will wear that at work. This weekend I will definitely be wearing this mix.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/16 "2011-10-15T15:59:03Z")

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> [@Pandakun](#):
>
> I Venture You are Assuming He Labeled then in Order from MX414 - MX419… Thus “F” would be MX419…

Thanks, I didn’t notice the writing in red, where he told about the labels. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/17 "2011-10-15T16:05:26Z")

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nope, no idea what it is yet for sure, but could more or less guess what it is, will only remove it after i test out the rest.

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**Author:** ![magus808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@magus808](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magus808)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/18 "2011-10-16T23:07:10Z")

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So it was Saturday night and I wanted to test out my MX419 mix I tried at work. I had to prep for a presentation on Monday, so I decided to go out to Starbucks near my house to get some peace and quiet. No TV, and definitely no wife to bother me.

3 Drops A314  
2 Sprays [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)  
2 Sprays MX419

Arrived there and stood in line. As I got there I noticed how full it was. (No open tables) After getting my drink, I scan the area and spot a pretty decent looking girl on a laptop at a table by herself. I politely asked her if I could join her since every table was full. She was very nice and said said sure.

About 20 minutes goes by, and I decide to get another cup. I ask her if she would like a refill to thank her for letting me sit down. At first she was kind of hesitant, but after some persuading on my part she agreed. When I came back with the drinks, we started a full blown conversation about her career as a kindergarten teacher, her boyfriend of one month. We talked about me (didn’t tell her I was married) Before we knew it Starbucks was closing. We had been talking for about an hour and a half.

I didn’t ask for her number because she just met the guy a month ago, and she’s probably in the “honeymoon” stage of the relationship. If she was seeing him for a year or more, I might have tried to home wreck that. 😃

Overall I like this mix. It gave me a lot of confidence, and it makes strangers feel comfrotable with you. I didn’t go out to a club so I don’t know how that type of atmosphere would have affected the mix. I also don’t know how the mix would have affected a single woman. More testing to come…

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/19 "2011-10-31T18:08:41Z")

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OK, this’ll be very short. I applied approx. 1,5 sprays of MX419 a few hours ago as I planned on going out to eat etc but didn’t get around to it yet.

However I had to go for a short ride with a buddy and his girlfriend and she kept asking me about the scent. I’d forgotten about the MX and I did detect a certain smell at first but now I think it only smells of none, if anything. She wanted to know if I’d just shaved and what after shave I’d put on etc., so I guess this one is good when it comes to the smell.

Hope there’ll be some ladies wherever I wind up for dinner so I can check this further. It’s the first time I wear 419.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx419-discussion-thread/61518/20 "2011-12-27T15:22:20Z")

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Hey Guys,

We’re closing in on the finishing touches of UltraF\* 3.0.

One quick thing:

To those who have tried these all, are there any clear winners from this pack?

Thanks!

John
