# The OFFICIAL MX422 Reporting/Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [July 19, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893 "2011-07-19T13:30:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/1 "2011-07-19T13:30:31Z")

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**What is MX422?**

**MX422** : Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2).

We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the [fragrance-free pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you!

The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine . It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female.

**Status:** Not Currently in Production

**Request MX422 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com)

**How to Test:**  
Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

**Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

**Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

**Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

**Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

**Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?  
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?  
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?  
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS  
Research Assistant  
Androtics Direct

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/2 "2011-08-10T13:34:05Z")

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Find out more about MX422 here: [Episode 7 - August 15, 2011 (Special Announcement)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/episode-7-august-15-2011-special-announcement/51860)

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**Author:** ![Timing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Timing](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Timing)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/3 "2011-08-19T13:42:17Z")

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1. Just tried some this morning ~06:20. Couple of shots to the wrists. Noticed that after a few minutes the scent .really. lightened up compared to shine & ammo. Kinda delicate even but not bad. Had been musing about that and logged onto here, noticed this thread on the top. I has timing :-p
2. 8:00am update: around 30 minutes ago I began to sense it more. Could be elapsed time or a short car ride I took. Began to watch above webcast. Worth noting I made the 06:30 observation about the scent w/o prior knowledge. Not noticing self effects (moods etc) really. still watching webcast.
3. 10:50am update: Two roommates up. Nothing really noteworthy in interaction, usual chatter with them. Because of the lack of noticeable effects in myself or them as well as the time elapsed, I applied two shots to my chest. Also, started a journal [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-times/51894](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-times/51894) and will add details later (current notes are on my computer)
4. 13:15 - one of my roommates who has been home has a sore back (for no apparent reason, and he is not prone to them - hope its not related!) and called sick into work. is laying down now.  
Another roommate returned home from her job and, having just walked in and barely glancing at me, said I _look_ good today. Now she does make such comments from time to time, but the comment after such a brief glance seemed unusual/unwarranted and thus interesting.

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**Author:** ![beanexpress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5daacb/32.png) [@beanexpress](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/beanexpress)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/4 "2011-08-19T19:23:18Z")

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2 sprays to neck  
430 pm  
taking my son to karate class parents sit in a 12x12 room  
self effects- upbeat feel good  
got some serious IOI long stares from women. but the biggest thing that I noticed was the whole room was chatty and having a good time. Now I’m still new to mones in general about a week now. But wow was I impressed that place is usally a graveyard lol  
next day=today  
2 sprays to neck  
my friend is remodeling his night club so went down to check on it sat and talked with a couple of friends for bout 30 min. I noticed some respect coming my way and was even asked what I thought bout certain things and if I had any suggestions. so far much ups to mx 422 I will try it again tonight when I go to have some drinks with the wife.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/5 "2011-08-19T20:22:12Z")

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> [@Timing](#):
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> 1. Just tried some this morning ~06:20. Couple of shots to the wrists. Noticed that after a few minutes the scent .really. lightened up compared to shine & ammo. Kinda delicate even but not bad. Had been musing about that and logged onto here, noticed this thread on the top. I has timing :-p
> 2. 8:00am update: around 30 minutes ago I began to sense it more. Could be elapsed time or a short car ride I took. Began to watch above webcast. Worth noting I made the 06:30 observation about the scent w/o prior knowledge. Not noticing self effects (moods etc) really. still watching webcast.
> 3. 10:50am update: Two roommates up. Nothing really noteworthy in interaction, usual chatter with them. Because of the lack of noticeable effects in myself or them as well as the time elapsed, I applied two shots to my chest. Also, started a journal [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-times/51894](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-times/51894) and will add details later (current notes are on my computer)

Man that is super early 🙂. I’m usually getting home just about that time…

When your roommates got up do you guys normally interact? Me, I tend to be quiet in the morning preferring the silence to seek introspection. Just curious.

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**Author:** ![Timing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Timing](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Timing)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/6 "2011-08-19T20:38:25Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> When your roommates got up do you guys normally interact? Me, I tend to be quiet in the morning preferring the silence to seek introspection. Just curious.

They seemed within their norms. I am similar to you in that I prefer an hour to myself after waking, but I actually had three hours this morning before they stirred so no chance to compare to a norm. Won’t discount the possibility but no conclusions from this morning.

Also I updated my post above with an interesting result.

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**Author:** ![magus808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@magus808](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magus808)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/7 "2011-08-24T10:09:41Z")

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Received MX422 as a gift with my order. Went to watch my nephews practice for baseball. Seemed like a perfect time to test out MX422. It seemed eveyrone around me (the other parents) were very chatty. At one point I think the coaches were getting mad at us because we were talking and laughing so loud it was kind of disrupting their practice. A few times I saw them looking back at us from the field. We weren’t even paying attention to how the boys were doing at practice.

I don’t have a clue what’s in this, but it seems like a combo of IS, IO, IH, or something but a more intense version. I have to go to a BBQ on saturday for our FF league live draft. That would be a perfect place to do more testing on this.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 11:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/8 "2011-08-24T11:47:09Z")

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I also received MX 422 as a freebie. EDIT: Thank you. 🙂  
Now I have to find opportunities to try out both this and the UF2, but I really want to play it safe on my precious saturday nights…The whole upcoming week is a fucking pain if that one night out totally goes to hell.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/9 "2011-08-24T12:57:09Z")

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The MX 422 is only about 2/3 full, even though it has tape around it to prevent leakage.  
In the UF2 pack the MX415 also contains far less than the others.

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/10 "2011-08-26T23:59:07Z")

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bump.  
why toooooooo short?

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**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/11 "2011-08-27T00:12:35Z")

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> [@Misein](#):
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> The MX 422 is only about 2/3 full, even though it has tape around it to prevent leakage.  
> In the UF2 pack the MX415 also contains far less than the others.

I just Got my UF2 Pack (All Where Full to the Top of the M in MX)… I Also got MX423 (it was Filled to the Middle of the X on MX)… I also got a [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) that I Ordered that was INSANELY Full (Thanks)… It Didn’t Seem that Anything Leaked in the Package… But With Stealth Diffusion How I Could You Tell?!?

Note: Is There No Official Thread for MX423 Yet?!?

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/12 "2011-08-27T13:51:17Z")

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> [@Pandakun](#):
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> I just Got my UF2 Pack (All Where Full to the Top of the M in MX)… I Also got MX423 (it was Filled to the Middle of the X on MX)… I also got a P83 that I Ordered that was INSANELY Full (Thanks)… It Didn’t Seem that Anything Leaked in the Package… But With Stealth Diffusion How I Could You Tell?!?
> 
> Note: Is There No Official Thread for MX423 Yet?!?

My MX422 is filled right to the middle of 4 in 422. 🙂  
I think it has leaked because I could smell it, especially when I removed the tape. I’m not complaining here, this isn’t a customer service post. Just wanted to give a heads up on this. And the bottle was free, all is good.

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/13 "2011-08-28T17:24:46Z")

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> [@Pandakun](#):
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> Note: Is There No Official Thread for MX423 Yet?!?

Waited for it to show up “in the wild”:

> [@The OFFICIAL MX423 Reporting/Discussion Thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx423-reporting-discussion-thread/52048):
>
> What is MX423? MX423: Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2). We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the [fragrance-free pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you! The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our b…

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**Author:** ![Timing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Timing](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Timing)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/14 "2011-09-05T20:01:51Z")

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I posted my MX422 conclusions in my journal thread.

> [@Good Times](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-times/51894/5):
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> The mysterious mx422 Its difficult to be very sure what this could be without having tried many of the products it might be. I’m going to go out on a limb and say the major effect of this is either [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) or something that pairs very well with my innate IH. See my intro thread’s remarks on IH for more on that. That would explain why I didn’t initially notice much. Over time though I have noticed reliably an increase of the sort of conversations that I am used to but with a twist - …

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**Author:** ![extremetestosterone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@extremetestosterone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extremetestosterone)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/15 "2011-09-07T18:42:40Z")

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- Strength - I used 3 sprays at work yesterday, and one thing that I noticed was that the smell was a little stronger than 414. It still reminded me of fresh clean clothes and I’m pretty sure no one though I was wearing cologne, but I just thought I’d mention that the smell was noticably a little stonger.
- Length of Effects - All night (six-seven hours)
- Tenacity - I could still smell it by the end of the night. Not constant, but just got a nice wiff every once in a while (that’s what you mean by tenacity, right?)
- Effectiveness - Okay this is what I got from testing yesterday. I’ve read that so far people are saying this is social. I agree, but I also think there is more to it than that. I think this one could be a status enhancer as well as a social. Some people were more talkative than they usually are, but others were less talkative (kind of giving one word answers and walking away with their tail between thier legs and head down). One girl in particular at work (22ish) was smiling big at me all night which is always a good sign. She was also laughing at things I said even when they weren’t meant to be a joke, or even when the joke was just plain stupid. Another woman (24ish) was giving me the eyes of a schoolgirl with a crush and kept playing with her necklace while we were talking. She was also acting kind of nervous, but still smiling big. As far as men went I didn’t notice anything different…yeah we joked around and had fun, but we usually do. In conclusion of day one I would say that I felt more confident and had more fun even in times that I usually get flustered.
- Diffusion/Silage - Not quite sure if this one left more of a trail or an aura. If I had to pick one right now I’d say it’s more an aura. (That’s what you mean by diffusion/silage right?)

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**Author:** ![number1mule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/76d3ee/32.png) [@number1mule](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/number1mule)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/16 "2011-09-11T06:27:33Z")

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I got this as a free gift, what is the scent used in it? It smells fresh and clean. Is the scent available to buy?

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**Author:** ![extremetestosterone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@extremetestosterone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extremetestosterone)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/17 "2011-09-12T17:08:48Z")

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> [@](#):
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> what is the scent used in it? It smells fresh and clean. Is the scent available to buy?

It’s stealth diffusion, and hopefully it will be an option for customization in the future…it’s way too early to say though.

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/18 "2011-09-13T12:27:24Z")

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> [@extremetestosterone](#):
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> It’s stealth diffusion, and hopefully it will be an option for customization in the future…it’s way too early to say though.

You’re right, ET. Too early to tell.

With this set of MXs, we are just testing _components_, one by one or two by two, that will eventually become the Stealth Diffusion Technology. It’s still pretty early stage. I’m sure some form of the tech will be available for purchase and customization once more feedback rolls in…but this depends highly on getting people to report as much as possible!!!

> [@number1mule](#):
>
> I got this as a free gift, what is the scent used in it? It smells fresh and clean. Is the scent available to buy?

The scent is a component we are testing that could eventually end up in our Stealth Diffusion Technology.

Can you explain the scent a little more?

Here’s a list of questions we look for when testing a new mix as important as this one:

Strength - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?  
Length of Effects - When did you notice te onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?  
Tenacity - Tenacity refers to “staying power”, or the aggressiveness of the cologne.  
Effectiveness - How effective is this mix? Have its effects been consistent?  
Diffusion/Sillage - Sillage refers to your “vapor trail”. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your sillage?

> [@extremetestosterone](#):
>
> - Strength - I used 3 sprays at work yesterday, and one thing that I noticed was that the smell was a little stronger than 414. It still reminded me of fresh clean clothes and I’m pretty sure no one though I was wearing cologne, but I just thought I’d mention that the smell was noticably a little stonger.
> - Length of Effects - All night (six-seven hours)
> - Tenacity - I could still smell it by the end of the night. Not constant, but just got a nice wiff every once in a while (that’s what you mean by tenacity, right?)
> - Effectiveness - Okay this is what I got from testing yesterday. I’ve read that so far people are saying this is social. I agree, but I also think there is more to it than that. I think this one could be a status enhancer as well as a social. Some people were more talkative than they usually are, but others were less talkative (kind of giving one word answers and walking away with their tail between thier legs and head down). One girl in particular at work (22ish) was smiling big at me all night which is always a good sign. She was also laughing at things I said even when they weren’t meant to be a joke, or even when the joke was just plain stupid. Another woman (24ish) was giving me the eyes of a schoolgirl with a crush and kept playing with her necklace while we were talking. She was also acting kind of nervous, but still smiling big. As far as men went I didn’t notice anything different…yeah we joked around and had fun, but we usually do. In conclusion of day one I would say that I felt more confident and had more fun even in times that I usually get flustered.
> - Diffusion/Silage - Not quite sure if this one left more of a trail or an aura. If I had to pick one right now I’d say it’s more an aura. (That’s what you mean by diffusion/silage right?)

GREAT feedback, dude.

Yes, that is what we meant by Tenacity.

Yes, that is what we meant by diffusion/sillage. How large was your aura?

Great reporters of the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) world, take note at extremetestosterone’s great report.

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**Author:** ![funtimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@funtimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/funtimes)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/19 "2011-11-04T19:17:50Z")

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Ok i want the biggest bottle of mx422 that you guys can make. The first time i wore it i got laid in the back of my car lol. Every time i wear it this woman cant keep her hands off me and keeps saying i dont know why but i want you. She cant stop kissing me and before you know it, it leads back to sex. As far as the effects on me is calm and relaxed, and confident. I tried the mx432 to see if i got the same resluts and its a no. i even tried the new intensity colongue the lady in sophora swore she couldnt keep her hands off a guy wearing it. it worked a bit but nothing like the mx422 😉

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**Author:** ![funtimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@funtimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/funtimes)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx422-reporting-discussion-thread/51893/20 "2011-11-04T19:20:06Z")

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Also i wore it around her when she was on her period and she swore she hates men during those times. well she didnt hate me, she kissed me and wanted to fuck. she was pissed she was on her period and said wait till this damn period is over i will fuck your brains out!!! So yeah i am begging you guys send me more mx422 pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee! this is by far the best mix i have gotten the chance to use. oh and she says i smell really good while i am wearing it 🙂

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