# The OFFICIAL MX428 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx428-discussion-thread/61559>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [January 5, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx428-discussion-thread/61559 "2011-01-05T23:03:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![RJS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RJS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RJS)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx428-discussion-thread/61559/1 "2011-01-05T23:03:12Z")

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**What is MX428?**

**MX428** : Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2).

We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the [fragrance-free pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you!

The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine . It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female.

**Status:** Not Currently in Production

**Request MX428 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com)

**How to Test:**  
Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

**Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

**Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

**Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

**Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

**Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?  
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?  
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?  
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS  
Research Assistant  
Androtics Direct

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**Author:** ![BaBySMaMa23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BaBySMaMa23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BaBySMaMa23)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx428-discussion-thread/61559/2 "2011-01-16T01:05:52Z")

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> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
>
> What is **MX428**?
> 
> **MX428** is one MX in a series of about _15 MXs_ we will be giving free in random orders. Only _96_ were made for this pilot experiment. We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology we are developing. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the fragrance-free pheromone products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you! That’s why we need your help testing!
> 
> The mix itself is one molecule, [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine. It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female.
> 
> **How to Test:** Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.
> 
> This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. We’re mostly looking for your results with this mix standalone. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.
> 
> **What to Report:** We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.
> 
> • _Strength_ - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?
> 
> • _Length of Effects_ - When did you notice The Edge onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?
> 
> • _Tenacity_ - Tenacity refers to “staying power”, or the aggressiveness of the cologne.
> 
> • _Effectiveness_ - How effective is this mix? Have its effects been consistent?
> 
> • _Diffusion/Sillage_ - Sillage refers to your “vapor trail”. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your sillage?
> 
> Ask yourself these questions after you’ve worn this mix, and post your report to this thread.
> 
> Thanks A.D.venturers!! 🙂
> 
> John Sebastian  
> Androtics Direct

I received my MX 428 in my first order from here. I was kinda nervous at first about using it but I’m glad I did 😃

I used two sprays, one between my two wrists and one on my chest.

I didn’t notice much self effects, besides being excited to try it out. But, I was absolutely intrigued with the smell it left on my skin!! It wasn’t anything I could put my finger on but I found myself continuously sniffing my wrists, since its not the easiest task to sniff my chest 😉 lol…anyway it just left me extremely intrigued.

STRENGTH~After waiting a good 20 min for it to dry, I headed to the grocery store. I figured its a neutral place that still requires getting within close distances of other people. My first hit was almost immediately after walking into the store…it was just a stare, but it was a stop dead in his tracks and fully turn to watch me walk by stare…WOW! I couldn’t help but giggle as I kept walking 🙄 There were a couple more hits after that where the guys stopped and said “Hi” with smiles on their faces as I walked by but the biggest hit didn’t come until I got to the checkout…n it wasn’t even a guy 😃 The female at the check stand was clearly not having a good day, and the woman in front of me was not helping. I mean no one likes a crabby old woman who is trying to get something for nothing lol…but once she began ringing up my items and I got closer, her whole demeanor changed…she started smiling and chatting with me…she commented on my birthdate (I was buying alcohol so I had to fork over my ID 🙄), she began talking about how her brother’s birthday was within days of mine, not something you would expect to share with a complete stranger…and if this wasn’t odd enough, she kept talking to me even as she was ringing up the person behind me! It almost took me five minutes to end the conversation!!! I was almost laughing as I walked away…I’ve never seen someone quite so interested in me 🆒

LENGTH OF EFFECTS~I’d say that I sprayed it on around 5 P.M. and about 5:40 when I got to the store I could feel a definite change. I would say it peaked about 6, right around when I got to the checkout. I am not entirely sure when it began to wear off, as I had been drinking by then, so I was in a pretty constant state of euphoria haha 😉

TENACITY~I would say that it was about a 6 on a 1 to 10 scale.

EFFECTIVENESS~Apart from this time, I haven’t gotten a chance to get out much, but for this time I would say it was an 9!

DIFFUSION/SILLAGE~I would say that in an indoor atmosphere I had about a 5 foot area that was affected. But with movement it could’ve been up to 10 feet.

I really like this one!!

P.S.~I hope no one minds I posted this in the men’s forum…but I couldn’t find an Official Reporting Thread in women’s!! 😃

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**Author:** ![somechick03862](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@somechick03862](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/somechick03862)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx428-discussion-thread/61559/3 "2011-10-05T20:13:59Z")

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**1. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/) Used**  
MX 428

**2. Purpose of Application**  
MX Testing

**3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes**  
I didn’t really notice anything blatant but then I got really focured, which was great because I was cleaning my house, which I hate doing! I was cleaning and in a **good** mood! Unheardof!

**4. Self Effects after 3 hours**  
I was still very focused and in a general good mood, not dying for a nap like I normally would have been at that time of the day

**5. Location**  
deli/convenience store

**6. Environment**

working with my boss and another co-owner, a busy flow of lunch customers

**7. People’s Reaction**

I was only at work about 90 seconds before a guy who has been trying to take me out came in( think he knows my schedule?), he is very nice, but it’s just not likely that we will develop into anything( long story) and he seemed to disregard personal space, and want to be really close to me. He also really didn’t seem to want to leave, just wanted to be around me as long as he could.  
My co-worker( not the bitchy one from my MX424 testing) laughed at me because I was somewhat giddy, and that is SO not me lately! She was also in a good mood within 5-10 minutes of being around me, and she was pissed at someone when I got there. A creepy older guy told me I smelled ‘sweet’

**8. Summary**  
**Strength**  
I think it smells powdery and pretty light unless you are fairly close to it

**Length of Effects**  
**Tenacity**

Kept me in a good mood and focused for about 5 hours before I started to realize I wanted to just kind of relax and not be doing _something_

**Effectiveness**

**Diffusion/Silage**  
It seems to effect people on the other side of the counter, so anywhere from 2-6 feet, maybe more, but I didn’t really go mingle as I had work to do. The guy who said I smelled ‘sweet’ was about 3 feet from me when he said it and that was maybe 2.75 hours after I sprayed it.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx428-discussion-thread/61559/4 "2011-10-05T20:16:26Z")

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I also just got MX 430 in my order today, so will try that when I am not already smelling delightfully like IS/b, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), IO and MX 424(which is almost gone)

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx428-discussion-thread/61559/5 "2011-10-12T23:30:36Z")

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Sorry it has taken me so long to post the results of my second trial of MX428. I had a puking kid, then a puking dog, then an abcessed tooth. Took up a lot of time, then I was not in the mood to write.

**1. Pheromones Used**  
MX 428

**2. Purpose of Application**  
MX Testing

**3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes**  
No really obvious self effects, then just a general good mood

**4. Self Effects after 3 hours**  
Relatively good mood for the crappy kind of day we had at work

**5. Location**  
deli/convenience store

**6. Environment**

working with my boss and another co-owner, a busy flow of lunch customers, extra busy because we had a good lunch special

**7. People’s Reaction**

I had to bring a ladle out to a customer who wanted soup and it just so happened to be the customer who is trying VERY hard to take me out. I try to maintain a little personal space with my customers, but he leaned in really close and said 'Oh, you smell soooooo good!" He also came in three more times, and dragged his boss in at lunch time. I asked the boss if he made him come in for lunch and he rolled his eyes and said, “god, yes…” LOL

Worked with the bitchy co-worker who is getting ready to go cross country on the back of her husband’s bike. This is the kind of time she stresses and gets really pissy with everyone because she has so much prep to do(she makes soooo much extra work for herself. Really, we CAN handle it without her). She seemed to keep herself in control and very even-keeled throughout my time working with her. This is not typical.

I had several customers ask me for advice on things like when they should let a grandbaby have peanut butter, whether or not I thought it was a good time to trade cars, and if I would recommend a good breakfast place to take a date this weekend. All of these requests were from people I DO NOT know, so I don’t know what made them think I would be a good person to ask.

I definitely get a TON of eye contact with this, or any of the TAA mixes that I have used so far. And lots of people saying I am ‘sweet’, not smelling, my personality!

**8. Summary**  
**Strength**  
I think it smells powdery and pretty light unless you are fairly close to it. This time I wore two sprays, one split between my wrists and one to my throat, covered with Ralph.  
**Length of Effects**  
**Tenacity**

Kept me in a good mood and focused .  
Didn’t notice any crash, but I was kind of thinking about other things by the time it was wearing off.  
**Effectiveness**

**Diffusion/Silage**  
Not sure I leave a ‘wake’ so to speak, but it seems to get to people over the counter, as customers were VERY chatty, especially when wearing this MX covered by my usual perfume.
