# The OFFICIAL MX429 Reporting/Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [September 20, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592 "2011-09-20T19:09:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/1 "2011-09-20T19:09:10Z")
**What is MX429?** **MX429** : Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2). We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the [fragrance-free pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you! The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine . It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female. **Status:** Not Currently in Production **Request MX429 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com) **How to Test:** Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points. This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything. We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne. Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling? What to Report: We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here. **Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle? **Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane? **Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another? **Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time? **Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage? Other weird questions that help clarify: If it were music, what would it sound like? If it had a texture, what would it feel like? If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like? What celebrity or public figure is it most like? Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix. Thank you, RJS Research Assistant Androtics Direct ---
**Author:** ![TheOmega](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theomega/32/1462_2.png) [@TheOmega](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheOmega)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/2 "2011-09-25T19:45:02Z")
Just received my latest order with a MX429 freebie in it. Will test it later tonight or tomorrow. Just waiting for a social occasion to try it out. Thanks for the great customer service. I’ve also bought p78 and p103 😉 Can’t wait to give them a try. Kudos AD! ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/3 "2011-09-29T20:10:46Z")
Giving mine a run. Going to the mall, not my usual test setting but should give opportunity. Question about trying with cologne. Do I apply the MX over the cologne or the cologne over the MX? and different spots? ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/4 "2011-09-30T17:20:44Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > What is **MX429**? > > **MX429** is one MX in a series of about _15 MXs_ we will be giving free in random orders. Only _96_ were made for this pilot experiment. We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology we are developing. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the fragrance-free pheromone products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you! That’s why we need your help testing! > > The mix itself is one molecule, [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine. It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female. > > **How to Test:** Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points. > > This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. We’re mostly looking for your results with this mix standalone. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne. > > **What to Report:** We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here. > > • _Strength_ - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle? Self effects were there, Did not pick up anything on others. Mood elevation wasn’t much but mainly increased focus > [@](#): > > • _Length of Effects_ - When did you notice The Edge onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane? Took probably 3 minutes to feel the self effects. I can’t say but it might have worn off within 3 hours. > [@](#): > > • _Tenacity_ - Tenacity refers to “staying power”, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Far from aggressive, can’t say much. > [@](#): > > • _Effectiveness_ - How effective is this mix? Have its effects been consistent? Having no reactions to base with all I have is just the self effect to run off of. > [@](#): > > • _Diffusion/Sillage_ - Sillage refers to your “vapor trail”. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your sillage? Again this didn’t seem to effect people > [@](#): > > Ask yourself these questions after you’ve worn this mix, and post your report to this thread. > > Thanks A.D.venturers!! 🙂 > > John Sebastian > Androtics Direct First applied it while waiting in a drive through, which after that I was heading to the mall. Got no form of notice or attention out of the ordinary. Even in direct interactions there was no difference to notice in others. It had the self effect so I am figuring for now that it’s proximity might be really low. ---
**Author:** ![TheOmega](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theomega/32/1462_2.png) [@TheOmega](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheOmega)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/5 "2011-10-03T04:14:36Z")
The Omega Experience Hey guys, I’ve always wanted to start a Journal on PheroTalk but didn’t really have enough “material” to do so. Now that I literally bought most of the instant line products and a few putatives I’m ready to start my own journal 😉 So here we go! Enjoy the journal and don’t go too hard on me 🙂 **Time of the Day:** 1600 **Product Used:** MX429 **Length of Effects:** 3 Hours Noticed **Tenacity:** Smell was very subtle. I did like it though. 8.7/10 **Effectiveness:** Effective but will need more testing before giving it a verdict. **Diffusion/Sillage:** Hits were noticed in a 2m radius **Where was/were the mone/mones applied?:** Side Of The Neck **How many spray used?:** 1 Spray **Effects on Others:** Getting a few hits here and there. **Effects on self:** Few eye contact, little “look at me” attitude from ±25 years old girls. Will need more testing before saying more. **Final thoughts:** The mix has potential but I will definitely need to use more to get less subtle hits/reactions. TheOmega 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/6 "2011-10-06T01:07:22Z")
I was one of the lucky ones receiving the MX429 with my order. I decided that my trip to Disney in California would be a good testing ground for the everything I got (since I’ve been out of testing due to personal reasons) Reporting on MX429 Test #1: Temperature: High 65F, Low 55F Location: Disneylan Resort Setting: Conference sessions with various people of different groups and backgrounds, no prior history being around them Applications [ul] [li]Time: Around noon [/li][li]Points: 1x Back of Neck, 1xFront of Neck [/li][li]Notes: Had Axe on body, but not application points. No Cologne was used. [/li][/ul] [ul] [li]Strength: Effects would be broken into two parts [/li][LIST] [li]Personal: I felt focused for about an hour or so, however after the hour I was almost ADD and couldn’t focus, became uninterested in what was presented and walked out of some sessions to go socialize. [/li][li]Others: If this is supposed to have TAA, I didn’t notice anything like I normally would notice with other social products. However I did notice that one person who I met yesterday at the conference wasn’t as pleasant with me as she was yesterday. She didn’t acknowledge I was there even though I was sitting next to her, however she did talk to me afterwards, but it was close to 3 hours after application. [/li][/ul] [li]Length of effects: The effects were almost instant. Lasted for about an hour on me, but started to wear off after that (negative reaction, not being focused after 1 hour). On others, I couldn’t tell what the effects are, but if anything, it seems to have worn off after 3 hours (see why I think so above)[\*]Tenacity: Not strong, very soothing. I think [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) or Akuto would be better suite for this. Scent wore off almost about 1.5 hours. I couldn’t smell it anymore like I normally do with other scents. [/li][li]Effectiveness: Too soon to report this after trying once. I will have to try again before reporting on this. [/li][li]Diffusion/Sillage: Didn’t notice any on others, however on me it was about an hour or so. [/li][/LIST] Mo ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/7 "2011-10-06T01:33:11Z")
_Strength_ - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle? Didn’t note anything too obvious. Effects are mostly subtle. Felt a desire to sniff the application points (wrists) and loved the smell. • _Length of Effects_ - When did you notice The Edge onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane? Hard to comment on it as the effect wasn’t too obvious even at the time of application. • _Tenacity_ - Tenacity refers to “staying power”, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Good tenacity like or better than most commercial colognes. Not as long as Musc ravageur etc but still quite good. • _Effectiveness_ - How effective is this mix? Have its effects been consistent? I wouldn’t prefer it over some old powerhouse mixes (MX203, MX101, A314, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) etc.) • _Diffusion/Sillage_ - Sillage refers to your “vapor trail”. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your sillage? Not noticeable or consistent enough to comment on it. ---
**Author:** ![Feller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e19adc/32.png) [@Feller](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Feller)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/8 "2011-10-06T02:26:32Z")
Very positive self effects. Did not notice any different behavior or reaction from others, however. Nice scent, very clean and mild. ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/9 "2011-10-06T04:00:31Z")
every other report seems more of the same as mine, and even that seems to be the same case still. ---
**Author:** ![MISTIKO](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mistiko/32/1956_2.png) [@MISTIKO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MISTIKO)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/10 "2011-10-06T20:20:34Z")
HI , i will order next week as soon i received i will let you know my effects. thanks… ---
**Author:** ![arde\_koshtip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@arde\_koshtip](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arde_koshtip)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/11 "2011-10-07T06:26:55Z")
I did two sprays of MX429 to both nipples before going to class. In College Algebra I was very focused and was a step ahead of professor when Iam usually lost. The girls around me talked to each other frequently ,but only gave a little attention to me. I think this mone makes everyone focused without any attraction effects. I really want to try p83, can a moderator make me a tester. Ill try and give good feedback. ---
**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/12 "2011-10-07T22:33:03Z")
Wore this to a dinner at a barn with a friend who has social anxiety problems, so it should have made an interesting experiment. 2 sprays of MX429, to be clear, the recommended amount for the test. Did not use with other cologne. Will test that next. **Strength** Not very strong. Being in a warm car with my friend seemed to have some effects, but it definitely wasn’t as successful as an equal amount of IS. Seemed subtler than IS though, with a less noticeable scent (Can still smell the brightness when close to my application point (Wrists) **Length of Effects** Onset at 20m, peaked at one hour, waning gradually throughout two hours after peak. **Tenacity** Pretty calm at two sprays. IS is more tenacious still. **Effectiveness** Not very effective at the dose, subtle effects in self have been best felt, little detected in others unless very close. **Diffusion/Sillage** Little to none, I’d say range of effect in 2-3 feet. **Summary:** Nothing out of the ordinary to report with this test, would prefer stronger potency or IS. ---
**Author:** ![handsonfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eb9ed0/32.png) [@handsonfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/handsonfire)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/13 "2011-10-17T19:09:59Z")
Started my second weekend day, Friday 🙂, with one spray , on top of each wrist. I hadn’t read this thread, so I had a social/loosen up baby, kinda mix on, the girl I was meeting was young(28), exotic and hot and I was tryin my best to avoid the “i’m tryin get in urr pants vibe”, so no TUTH, no IJ. Two sprays of Nautica Competition, one spray Hugo Blue, and two sprays IS in my palms rubbed into my face/neck as aftershave. Two drops each inside wrist Alpha314 One spray chest, one spray back of neck Ammunition One spray chest P83 One spray each forearm IO (sleeves always rolled up) One spray [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) rubbed between both forearms and then the one spray of MX429 to the top of each wrist. Right away loved the MX429 fragrance, it added a nice spice like smell to my other colognes, all applied 1-1/2 hours before meeting up with people. Everything worked well, I felt great, packed bar, lots of friends comming up to us at the bar to get introduced to the “knockout”. My wing girl was there too, statuesque blonde, and she looked great dancing with my brunette friend. The staying power of the MX429 was evident into the third hour of partying(four and a half hours after application) and continued as the public worship and continued kissing and biting of my hands and arms by miss hottie went on till almost daybreak. So summary: strength:subtle, onset for me in this mix about 1 minute, self effects=very up mood, tenacity:medium, effectivness:very effective, diffusion:8-10ft, summary:long lasting, worked great with my other colognes, Ill test it with the same girl this Tues 🙂, I’ll wear only my cologne, Alpha314 and MX429 in a much more upscale place… ---
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/14 "2011-10-17T20:05:59Z")
> [@handsonfire](#): > > Started my second weekend day, Friday 🙂, with one spray , on top of each wrist. > I hadn’t read this thread, so I had a social/loosen up baby, kinda mix on, the girl I was meeting was young(28), exotic and hot and I was tryin my best to avoid the “i’m tryin get in urr pants vibe”, so no TUTH, no IJ. > > Two sprays of Nautica Competition, one spray Hugo Blue, and two sprays IS in my palms rubbed into my face/neck as aftershave. > Two drops each inside wrist Alpha314 > One spray chest, one spray back of neck Ammunition > One spray chest P83 > One spray each forearm IO (sleeves always rolled up) > One spray P74 rubbed between both forearms > and then the one spray of MX429 to the top of each wrist. Good report!! However, did you try to use this alone without anything else? I think that was the first thing John requested in the original post! It would be more beneficial to see how the effects are based on using it alone. Anyway, good report and keep on going 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![handsonfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eb9ed0/32.png) [@handsonfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/handsonfire)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/15 "2011-10-17T21:45:15Z")
> [@Morphious](#): > > Good report!! However, did you try to use this alone without anything else? I think that was the first thing John requested in the original post! It would be more beneficial to see how the effects are based on using it alone. > > Anyway, good report and keep on going 🙂 Yeah thanks Morph, I didn’t notice the request till today! Just grabbed it and put it on last Friday instead of MX390, 'cause I didn’t want to make a new girlfriend, or create too much limerence…that was a fail 🙂 But I actually put the stuff on by itself this morning out of friggin curiosity(read the tiny label!), then logged in, searched and posted. I still smell/feel it 6 hrs later. Not bad. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/16 "2012-01-03T13:00:20Z")
MX429 now available for purchase. Click for more info: [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/now-available-1-3-2012-stealth-58939.html](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/now-available-1-3-2012-stealth-58939.html) ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/17 "2012-01-24T05:22:39Z")
**2x MX429** ; _once to each wrist and spread on forearms and neck_ **Environment: Work** Another slow day. But once again managed decent tips… **nothing under 15%** this time and several in the **20-25%** range. Much better guest interactions than the day before though. Everyone was very _friendly_ and _wanted to talk_. One **older woman (40ish**) mentioned I was cute to what I assume was her **20ish daughter** …not sure if she intended for me to be within earshot or not 😉 Another **mother** ( **similarly aged** ) mentioned that her **slightly younger daughter** said I resemble a certain celebrity; this happens fairly often though. One **kid, male 8-10ish** , kept wanting to talk to me. One of the **girls** ( **early 20s** ) I mentioned last time asking me random questions to start conversation _wasn’t quite as talkative_ this time but got _close_ enough that her very nice ass and legs were touching me as I leaned against the wall. Now for the smell of this Stealth Diffusion stuff…when I opened my packages of 8 different SD MXes, wrapped into two separate groups with bubble wrap the smell was very mild yet pleasant. After actually applying to my skin in smelt like alcohol for the first few seconds before drying down slightly to smell like nothing. But later at work there was an unpleasant smell. I initially wrote it off as being the older gentleman I was waiting on lol but got a brief whiff of it later after they had long since gone and I wasn’t standing near anyone in particular. Upon putting my nose to my wrists and forearms I still smelt mostly nothing so I’m not sure if it was just something in that area. Made me feel a little self-conscious for a moment though, will consider covering with cologne the next time around. ---
**Author:** ![Buddhiman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@Buddhiman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Buddhiman)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/18 "2012-01-26T22:29:37Z")
I just got this yesterday and decided to see what effects it had on my LTG. She knows all about the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and so I decided to try this one without letting her know. 1 spray to each wrist and1 spray TUTHx2 to the chest… hell why not right!First off I noticed that it differred from the TUTH by itself in that I felt very upbeat… lively even and the LTG had a great time.Frankly the smell is amazing… my LTG was practically inhaling my wrists lol…I mean she was nose deep… and very playful. I also noticed her inhibitions were lower than she normally is with just the TUTH by itself. Needless to say, it was a fun night. ---
**Author:** ![CorLeonis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/corleonis/32/917_2.png) [@CorLeonis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CorLeonis)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx429-reporting-discussion-thread/52592/19 "2012-02-08T16:41:18Z")
I applied two sprays mx429 which I had received as a gift (Thanks AD!!) to the left and right side of the neck. Even right after application I couldn’t smell a thing and that did not change afterwards (of course I could not smell the application points directly). The effect on others was soft and what you would normally expect: friendly, likable and I even noticed some increased chattiness. I only stayed for about two hours, so I cannot comment on the length of the effects, but it was as stealthy as it could possibly be. Very nice!!