# The OFFICIAL MX445 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx445-discussion-thread/61478>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [May 8, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx445-discussion-thread/61478 "2012-05-08T00:20:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![RJS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RJS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RJS)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx445-discussion-thread/61478/1 "2012-05-08T00:20:13Z")

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**What is MX445?**

**MX445** : Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2).

We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the [fragrance-free pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you!

The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine . It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female.

**Status:** Not Currently in Production

**Request MX445 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com)

**How to Test:**  
Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

**Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

**Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

**Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

**Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

**Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?  
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?  
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?  
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS  
Research Assistant  
Androtics Direct

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**Author:** ![alexxander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@alexxander](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexxander)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx445-discussion-thread/61478/2 "2012-05-13T12:42:46Z")

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As to be an active member of this community, I will now begin detailing the last few weeks since my 2 MX445, 1 TUTH, 1 AMMO, and 1 IS, and 1 IH to go.

Here I will detail my MX445 experience.

The control is not using it at all (of course), and the target is very consistent in her demeanor.

Upon my first assessment, it smelled awful. It reminded me of McDonalds and another male (who was gay) also found it to be very potent when I asked for an opinion. However, I had at this point already discovered that its diffusion is very quick, and the signs of OD fade VERY quickly.

So, for those already turned off by the smell of what seems like McDonalds, do not give in yet. Spray the suggested dose to your chest, as neck, ear, and even arms = OD (for me).

And here is where the magic happens, you don’t need to mix it with ANYTHING.

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1 Spray of suggested dose with NO OTHER MONES to the chest.

The atmosphere outside became lively INSTANTLY. The target who was in a poor mood suddenly was bouncing off the walls.

It wasn’t just her either, her mood became contagious to all of my other dorm mates. Many of whom have been test subjects in one way or another, it was truly fun. I know that with AMMO it would have been fun in “that other way”, but when going through your nodes its important to know when to use a social mix for generating comfort, or restoring it after the mones from the night before have faded.

I advise the mystery method for information on social ques.

Needless to say, this mix when administered correctly and dispersed over a wide area gives you a trail of excitement and is deeply social.

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Now, I will explain my mix with AMMO.

Having attended my fire dancing class without any mones before, and with mones as well (NPA, IS, etc.) I can say that the AMMO + MX445 mix generates good tension.

Girls were competing to talk to me, and I was pretending to partially ignore them (and focus on the instructor) and dismiss their contributions to conversation while not giving a monologue myself. Girls hate to be ignored, especially good looking ones. If the girl is a 10 and you treat her like she is 5 she will fight to regain her confidence.

It is important to know that when you are the center of attention not to rant, say specific things that each have a purpose and do not speak a flow of consciousnesses, just because people are paying attention doesn’t mean they “care”.

This is where the mones come in.

The AMMO gave its obvious social-sexual aura? and the MX445 (at least in my experience) made people hyper. Hyper girls are the best, and if you can not manage the energy of a hyper girl then you MUST correct this flaw.

Girls never grow up, despite popular belief. They are gitty and giggly when you are in a comfort zone and will do silly things, you must achieve the ability to bring this out in them. Their guard is completely down when they are completely nice, you are not in the clear at this point either, you must do EXACTLY what you did to make them this way until it is second nature.

Now, I am not in this for sex explicitly, I like sexual dynamics and flirting and having a good time. I advise aphrodisiac teas with this mix, something that can give you a legal semi-molly feeling that way you are on “the level”.

So, AMMO+MX445 results consistently in hyper semi-sexual/sexual elevated moods. The great thing is it basically brings the energy out of AMMO (for me). I had girls competing for my attention and getting angry when I’d turn away. One would walk away to her friend when I turned to another girl that she may have perceived had a higher social value (but I myself am not shallow, nor do I care).

1. I was approached BEFORE class by popular girl A (perceived as 10).

- She is very popular, friends with the “tribe leader” instructor.
- Again, she approached me and complemented my goth clothing.
- I had run through social value nodes by explaining my conundrum of being in pre-law but really wanting the mobility of working in the stock industry, so that I can devote more time to my social life XD (true story).

1. Girl B interrupts me and A, asking for tips on how to do some move we learned called a “reverse weave”.

2. After less than 5 minutes of talking to B, I turn to A and motion her to join us XD. These two dual for attention (perceived 10 vs perceived 8), and after I motioned to another girl.

3. B becomes frustrated when I share personal information with A, (sensitivity via introducing one of my more right-wing interests)

4. B turns to friend-zone C (Who I’ve already disarmed by complementing his abilities in class). I felt that I may have offended her, so I carefully brought her back into the spotlight for a bit. (DO NOT HURT FEELINGS, BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU DO THIS STUFF).

5. I think shy and beautiful C was present in this chaotic class session, she is the youngest, gorgeous but is VERY shy. This is the one I want out of her shell the most, and possibly in my social life or more. There’s something special about this one.

If one thing was constant AND STILL IS, the energy is HIGH. You must be on stimulants or an aphrodisiac tea as not to slip up, forget names (If you call girl A by girl C’s it will NOT be good).

The thing to remember (especially with social-sexual blends) is not to be a creeper, you are better than that and so are the girls, you are just knowledgeable of their biochemistry and are exploiting it 🙂 you are basically hacking them, but not maliciously.

Situation 2 is EXTREMELY demanding. You must entertain 3 girls WHILE in class. Here is some advise.

If you have trouble juggling social situations like this, I advise learning from metro (NOT GAY) friends, they will be a HUGE help for generating comfort with these situations. The reason I say this is that Gay=insta friendzone, Metro=insta social. If this girl will introduce you to her friends while not having you friend zoned then you are now in a deadly and beautiful situation. Associate with people you want to be like during training, that doesn’t mean avoid your gay friends but try to spend more time with metro/alpha. Being able to not fall for female social value traps will do volumes as you try to remind her that yours is higher.

I will write more on this later.

Situation 3. Same class. Following session.  
-drops of MX445 to neck (HUGE mistake as it made me nervous).  
-AMMO  
-IS drops to arm

I caught an enormous wiff of MX and my smell was thrashed as a result. All I could smell for an hour was the MX and I could not tell if it was all from me or the quasi-headache of OD via proximity.

This time I was plagued by the class being too hot, and being sweaty (rare where I live due to VERY cold whether). I feel that this made me nervous more than it made BO, but under the influence of mones (and I am a lightweight) this threw me off completely. Never the less.

1. Girl A and C were not there that day. Girl B was bragging to me about her vacation but made sure to ask me about mine (indication that I have value).
2. Enter girl D, we were given group assignments and this girl is taller than me, has long blonde hair and is a champion at this. She smokes me in every department in this class.
3. We were close, began very close moves. I was very nervous, but I do not show it well (causes more trouble than good sometimes).
4. She had many IOIs, enough to break my mental loop of worries (if smelled bad as a result of the heat, the mones, etc.)
5. Instructor was nervous :3, and very demanding when he taught me the moves but he is a really nice guy so I could see the struggle. He really is an awesome dude.

This girl’s energy was high, but mine was low due to my head space (so glad A and C were gone). Long story short, MX445’s suggested dose is golden (for me), its application is best when sprayed to the chest, and worn under a muscle shirt + 1 thermal. Once the energy is high, remove the thermal or whatever. Ease the exposure of your target, but not by limiting the mone, you will need the full effect to keep the energy high.

MX445 is awesome stuff, it smells terrible AT FIRST, but if your spray is dispersed over a large area of skin the strange chemical notes vanish completely into something I’d describe as aquatic. I highly recommend MX445 as a social enhancer, but I have not really experienced ANY overt sexual response from it. It seems to be a great opener, and if you merely want lively social situations with lots of feminine attention it can be a great companion from my observation. Thus concludes my first real report. I may revise, I wrote this in a rush.
