# The OFFICIAL MX453 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [January 25, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484 "2011-01-25T21:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RJS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RJS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RJS)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/1 "2011-01-25T21:04:45Z")
**What is MX453?** **MX453** : Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2). We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the [fragrance-free pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you! The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine . It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female. **Status:** Not Currently in Production **Request MX453 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com) **How to Test:** Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points. This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything. We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne. Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling? What to Report: We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here. **Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle? **Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane? **Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another? **Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time? **Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage? Other weird questions that help clarify: If it were music, what would it sound like? If it had a texture, what would it feel like? If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like? What celebrity or public figure is it most like? Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix. Thank you, RJS Research Assistant Androtics Direct ---
**Author:** ![BeeTeeDubh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@BeeTeeDubh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BeeTeeDubh)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 11:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/2 "2011-02-26T11:19:56Z")
MX453 I got a to-go bottle of this in my order today. Since I’m a total noob (this was my first order and I have 9 other things to try), I may hold off a bit to get a sense of mones in general before trying it out. Anyone else get some or know what it does? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/3 "2012-04-26T10:39:57Z")
Its an MX - The idea is that you test it and tell us. ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/4 "2012-04-27T18:22:39Z")
I got this too. I’ll give it a test tonight and report back. ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/5 "2012-04-27T23:03:11Z")
Sprayed it when I got home tonight 2 hrs ago. 1s to wrist. self effects: hard to pinpoint this one. Felt like it woke me up a little bit and that my “inner voice” is more active then usual. That makes me believe this one leans toward the social aspect side, but I could be completely off. Heightened mental awareness. Enhanced visual field. (doesn’t feel at all similar to a314, ammo, shine, IJ, tuth) Smell: odorless, I smell the application point directly and can’t smell a thing. Will test again in social settings. Just wanted to gather a personal feel for it before. Initial perception is that it feels very social oriented. ---
**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/6 "2012-04-28T12:20:42Z")
any info on this one yet? i got it as an extra and it immediately seemed kinda feminine to me.. Id love to have at least a hint of what is in it… ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/7 "2012-04-29T18:09:35Z")
I agree it smells feminine when you first apply it but it goes away very quickly. I applied 1 spray to each wrist earlier before I went rockclimbing. Self Effects: May have had a slight sexual vibe this time or maybe it’s just me. I think it would be interesting to combine with TUTH. There weren’t many girls at the climbing gym today, but hot one was close enough to get a whiff of me. Seemed like she left the area quickly, (could be many other reasons for this). Later I noticed her looking directly at me and we held a gaze for a few seconds until she looked away. Did seem like there was an intimidation factor with males around me. One guy asked me if he could use a piece of workout equipment, when I was obviously not using it. That was unusual but not too out of the ordinary I guess. ---
**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/8 "2012-05-01T15:37:43Z")
yeah ive tried it a couple more times now and I cannot quite pick up whats going on. Anyone else try this product? ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/9 "2012-05-01T17:26:10Z")
I learned it is TAA based with the goal being stealth diffusion. TAA is the main ingredient in IS but is definatelty not the same IS by itself. It may or may not be rounded out with other steering or intensifying mones. That is for us to figure out. My initial perceptions that it was a primarily a “social” oriented mix were on point. I’m going to use this product as a substitute for shine and analyze the differences. ---
**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/10 "2012-05-01T19:23:58Z")
awesome. how did you find this out exactly? thank you ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/11 "2012-05-01T22:06:36Z")
I pm’ed Steve and asked him if he could give me any idea on this one. He said it was a TAA base. ---
**Author:** ![the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@the](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/the)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/12 "2012-05-08T20:47:12Z")
i got this with my latest order, about a week ago. i tested it out tonight by myself and my experience seems to be the same as romodinho. to me it smelled like a combination of orange and cucumber and lots of rubbing alcohol, but that all faded rather quickly. i sprayed two on my left hand and dabbed that to my right - one spray at a time - then put my wet finger under my nose. i couldnt really feel much and after a while, i sprayed it directly on my face, at which point it started to hit me. i felt anxious, but without all the anxiety …whatever that means… and then i couldnt really concentrate; i wouldnt say i was scatter-brained, but there was a bit of an add - sorry, ADD - thang happening there. still, i felt like i was thinking clearly, just as romodinho mentioned his heightened mental awareness. i even caught myself staring at my hand thinking about how i felt like my eyes were really _working_ tonight. and then i got horny. for sure. ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/13 "2012-05-08T22:19:20Z")
I get the mind scramble from shine and ammo. Nothing else. I need to try this mx on a night out to specifically gauge attraction. Which really is the goal of most of my [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) usage and the easiest arena to gauge a product. The modern day mating pond. ---
**Author:** ![the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@the](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/the)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/14 "2012-05-09T11:59:19Z")
> [@romodinho](#): > > I get the mind scramble from shine and ammo. Nothing else. I need to try this mx on a night out to specifically gauge attraction. Which really is the goal of most of my pheromone usage and the easiest arena to gauge a product. The modern day mating pond. right, well my “mind-scramble” may have had to do with the fact that i sprayed it directly onto to my face-piece, though i cant say for sure just yet. ---
**Author:** ![the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@the](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/the)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/15 "2012-09-24T21:31:31Z")
gee i’m surprised there hasn’t been any sort of update at all; i keep checking back but i guess nobody’s used mx453 for a while… well except for me. this has become my main squeeze. it seems to do everything i want it to, at any given time. i have used this in all sorts of settings and had nothing but absolutely the most positive results. really, i can’t think of what else i might want out of a pheromone mix. granted, i’m not as experienced as some here since i don’t go out actively testing, experimenting and diligently documenting, then comparing all the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) available here and/or elsewhere - though Ii do have quite a bit of experience, testing one i got locally prior to my 2009 join date - but for me this is definitely one ideal mix. actually, that’s not fully true, as i almost always add one spray of instant shine with it. usually i shake then spray once to the inside of my wrist and dab to the other wrist before dabbing each wrist to either side of my neck. i then spray one spray of instant shine to the outside of my wrist and dab to the other wrist, and then usually to the back of my neck - though on occasion i’ll add one to the back of my head instead of, or even _with_ those dabs to the back of my neck. as far as results go, like i said: ideal. i’ve found this to be appropriate everywhere i’ve worn it. now, i don’t wear any pheromones to family functions, but in social, work and nightlife settings, this great. it affects people in the ways i want it to and gets the results i want. i get respect from men and women, though there is no intimidation factor. none. people seem to inherently trust/believe me in a way that seems entirely natural. and people are not put off by me or my presence when i wear it, nor are they trying to “test” or challenge me. it’s a hit with the ladies too. seems to help with attraction in a significant (and very natural and normal) way, and while they don’t necessarily go gaga and start drooling, i have had one pawing me all night - it should be noted that she and i already had a mutual attraction. everything about mx453 + instant shine seems natural, as if the pheros are not a factor. i’ve noticed with a lot of pheros and combos that i’ve tried, there is something that seems _un_natural to me, and i really don’t like that. i’ve tried using smaller and smaller doses, but that feeling is always looming; not with this combo, at least not for me. i can’t think of much more i can say about this at the moment and i should be going, but i hope this helps somebody (_every_body!) and i will check back in case anyone has questions that maybe i can answer. ---
**Author:** ![the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@the](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/the)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/16 "2012-10-03T11:41:22Z")
hey i was looking for this at [androticsdirect.com](http://androticsdirect.com) and couldn’t find it. is it still available at all? i’d like some more… ---
**Author:** ![the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@the](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/the)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx453-discussion-thread/61484/17 "2012-10-06T08:59:48Z")
nobody? ooookay… well who i do ask about it’s availability?