# The OFFICIAL MX454 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [January 25, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485 "2011-01-25T21:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RJS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RJS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RJS)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/1 "2011-01-25T21:04:45Z")
**What is MX454?** **MX454** : Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2). We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the [fragrance-free pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you! The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine . It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female. **Status:** Not Currently in Production **Request MX454 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com) **How to Test:** Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points. This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything. We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne. Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling? What to Report: We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here. **Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle? **Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane? **Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another? **Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time? **Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage? Other weird questions that help clarify: If it were music, what would it sound like? If it had a texture, what would it feel like? If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like? What celebrity or public figure is it most like? Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix. Thank you, RJS Research Assistant Androtics Direct ---
**Author:** ![MusikAddikt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/musikaddikt/32/1576_2.png) [@MusikAddikt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MusikAddikt)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/2 "2011-02-05T01:39:18Z")
So… I had torn the label off my bottle, but I’m pretty sure it was MX454(stealth diffusion). I’ve tried searching for it on these forums but I can’t find it anywhere. Let me just say if it was MX454 I LOVED the self effects it gave me. The first time I put it on I was anxious about meeting up with some old time friends I hadn’t seen since I joined the military. It seemed like within minutes I was incredibly calm, and all of my anxiety had melted away. I went to hang out with my friends and I was talking to them like we’d been best friends for years. Usually when hanging out with people I’m not extremely close with it takes a while for me to let my guard down and be myself, but while wearing MX454 I felt like my guard was non existent. I knew with 100% certainty that it was this mix I was wearing because I have never opened up in a group of people so easily as I had that night. I wore it for the rest of the week, unfortunately the bottle only lasted about 6 days. I’d love to get some more if you guys still make it… You guys should pick a mx product and ship it out to customers for an entire quarter, and decide whether or not to continue selling it based on the feedback. I truly think this product I was wearing could have been a real hit if more people knew about it. I wear IS, AMMO, and A314 regularly, and none of them have impacted my own mood more so than this MX 454. ---
**Author:** ![lpkehr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@lpkehr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lpkehr)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/3 "2012-05-20T06:42:53Z")
I received 2 free 5ml to go bottles of mx454 with my order the other day, so I decided to start tinkering with this before I get into my order just show my appreciation to androtics and give something back to the forums. I have noticed that there is hardly any information on mx454 and thats great also because I guess I can kind of pioneer this mix in a way! yay! Well, I cracked it open, started spraying air until, bam, i got my first half squirt out, then I followed it with another full spray. Assuming 2 sprays would be optimal dosage for me to run my experiment, I went ahead and stopped at 1.5 sprays especially since it would be my first day trying the -mx and I have been particularly sensitive to amount of -mx I need to wear. So once this was underway, I gathered up my 4 month old dog and headed out to the vets office for a scheduled visit I had. I would not recommend anyone out their to wear -mones to a vets office, since, as I found out for myself, most of the dogs will be fighting to get close to you to figure out what the hell that smell is. But without really having any reaction from my own puppy, I didn’t think this was going to be the case until I got their and saw it for myself. I was tempted to try this out for my vets visit, since, he has 4 beautiful assistants working there with him and they would be the target of my phero-cloud. Once I got there, most of the small dogs where just dying to come to me and my puppy and the good thing about this is that the female dog owners were giving into their dogs wishes by not fighting when there curious pets pulled on their leashes. It was like they were ok with letting their dog meet me and used this opportunity, like I did, to talk and compliment each others beautiful pets. At the same time, there were several male clients who were strictly shushing their dogs, and getting quiet annoyed at them for their eagerness to sniff all my -mones. After what seemed all way to short of a wait (talking to 2 different women, one with a puppy and another with a miniature snoozer) I was called into the office by the precious intern working as my vets assistant. I have seen here plenty of times before and I was surprised that right off the bat she seemed to not want to look into my eyes and was almost scared of me. She stumbled in her words as she asked me what food my puppy eats and explained to me what shots he would be getting. I was polite with her by telling her its, ok, no problem, yeah I know what you mean, … but she was clearly flustered. Now the vet arrived and he is always a happy go lucky guy, and always talks waaaay too much. I’ve been to this vet 1,000s of times for several pets I own and he is always very touchy-feely with my pets, and I was surprised and the opposite reaction this time. He did say hello to me in his same happy voice as soon as he walked in, but it wasn’t more than 15 seconds after his introduction that his wife walked in and he quickly turned me over for her to deal with. He simply said, hey sweetie, well this is my better half, (mind you I have never seen her out of the back office of the animal clinic) she will be finishing up all the rest and setting your puppy up for me to give him his shots, while she delightfully took reigns. Now I thought this was blatantly weird but she was so cheerful and lovely with my puppy and I was totally ok with it. Now once she walked in the room, the vet left and she proceeded to hug and kiss my puppy on the floor while she was asking me questions about his diet and whether or not he has xxx shots yada yada yada all I can see is her cupping my lucky dog between and massive tits! OMG. and no matter how blatantly I was just staring at those beautiful mammaries, she was just laughing and kissing my dog right on the mouth… out load smooches while he licked his life away at her face. After she gets up from the floor (almost 10 minutes later) laughing and all google-y, she takes my puppy back door the to vets area where they would be doing all the work. Every time I have been to this vets office and they have an animal of mine, I sit in the room waiting for them to finish with my puppy, usually about 10-15 minutes later. But as soon as she dropped off my doggie, the door opens up again, she walked back in the room and sat directly in front of me about 1 foot lower in a foot stool to proceed to ask me _dog questions_? How often does he play? Is he a good doggie? Then the conversation turned to, how awesome it is that I love animals, she loves animals also. … How many birds do you have? Kind? I have a cockatoo you would love him he speaks so much! then the proceeded to admire my artwork(tattoos). She grabbed my arm to see the work and then she ran her fingers on the ink as if she was going to feel the tattoo or something??.?? She also showed me one that she had on her neck and asked me if I had any more. So, as you can imagine, it was show and tell time, my favorite tattoo game! while bam! here comes my Vet, and she just doesn’t even care. She says, baby look how cool this is, show him that cartoon you have on your back. Vet says yeeeaaah… cool well your all set, and he brings up NEUTERING MY PUPPY!!! I said it was obviously a must do, but I would wait until he has a couple of litters and latest I would wait is when he is 4 years old. Then I payed the front desk lady and left! WoW… I was weirded out by the experience really! I didn’t understand her overly social behavior and at the same time I was totally digging the attention of an older powerful woman, all twinkle eyed in my presence. I think this mx454 is quiet interesting although it is impossible to tell right away, but this is the most blatant hit I have received after trying it for just 2 days. Another day, I sprayed 2 full sprays around wife and as soon as the mx454 left the bottle she said wow that smells nice… I thought that was very weird since it smelled my like a chemical plastic smell to me, but she said it smelled like baby powder to her. Weird! We were also extremely chatty around each other for that whole afternoon and we laughed a little more than usual. I even got some of the butterflies in my stomach feeling from giggling and playing with my wife and that was a little interesting since we have known each other almost half our lives. We met at 15 and now we are 29 and we were playing like we were little kids. Just laughing about stupid stuff, no real humor just, ahh look at your fat toe sticking out of your sock kinda humor. That is soo nasty! Sum up my experience so far, mx454 smells like chemicals to me smells like baby powder to my wife seems to have a repelling sense to men seems to create an open atmosphere of females around you. In particular, older flirty ones seems to attract attention of females is a hell of a lot of fun so far! Thanks again [androticsdirect.com](http://androticsdirect.com), [pheromonetalk.com](http://pheromonetalk.com) and everyone in the community. I will be posting again in the near future as I continue checking this mix out along some of the other goodies that came in. Now to finally start breaking out some my fun stuff from my order!!! RoB ---
**Author:** ![chelsea1717](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@chelsea1717](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chelsea1717)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/4 "2012-05-21T13:55:21Z")
Thanks lpkehr update us more on MX454 I honestly just got a repelling smell that i hated and really nothing too noticeable I gotta try it out more and compare to other mx 454 reports ---
**Author:** ![lpkehr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@lpkehr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lpkehr)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/5 "2012-05-21T18:51:27Z")
> [@chelsea1717](#): > > Thanks lpkehr update us more on MX454 I honestly just got a repelling smell that i hated and really nothing too noticeable I gotta try it out more and compare to other mx 454 reports I will be doing further research. I only wore it my first 2 days with it, but I will be wearing it more and reporting again sometime in the very near future. I want to test it in a crowded busy area like a mall and then again in a bar, coffee shop and bookstore. ---
**Author:** ![lostguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a4c791/32.png) [@lostguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lostguy)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/6 "2012-05-23T18:38:47Z")
wife said it smelled more musky.. i kinda like it .. will test it tonight hopefully… ---
**Author:** ![lpkehr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@lpkehr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lpkehr)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/7 "2012-05-29T03:32:51Z")
The last two days, I have taken the opportunity to try out the mx454 at my work, around the mall and at the grocery store. I have noticed that it does have a sort of talkative element to it with women once I break the ice, but I haven’t seen any differences with the guys I work around lately. I saw some kind of avoidance from a guy(vet) in my first post, but the last couple of days, the repel it had on all other guys is not as noticeable. I haven’t gotten the stares I get from my A314 or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), and I don’t see instant effects either. I have noticed I get into reeeeeal long conversations with the women that I talk to along my day. I think this might have to be tested at a more highly social environment like a bar or club to really observe changes on multiple people. So . . . I will get back with more information on this once I’ve gotten a little more experience on my hands. I feel I can “unlock” this mx’s full potential once I find out where it truly shines. ---
**Author:** ![lpkehr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@lpkehr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lpkehr)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/8 "2012-05-29T03:36:19Z")
> [@lostguy](#): > > wife said it smelled more musky.. i kinda like it .. will test it tonight hopefully… I would love to know how you saw it’s effects. Where would you be using it? At work? Outside? Inside? How many sprays are you going to apply and where? How old are you? I used 3 sprays the last two days each time I applied. I would apply about 20 minutes before arrived to my destinations. Around my neck - 1 left spray 1 right - and one spray to my chest. ---
**Author:** ![lostguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a4c791/32.png) [@lostguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lostguy)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/9 "2012-06-06T18:26:24Z")
well i used it again today 2 sprays on my neck its.. like when you uncap the bottle its smells to awesome and then boom i cannot tolerate the smell.. after putting it on no more then 2 min it smelled like i was wearing clothes that had urine for few weeks… lol sprayed alot of cover up scents but too strong.. (im 25…) but i didnt get to notice much from it since i was only out for an hr but I was more focused on the bad smell of it lol it just might stay capped for now.. _Sighs_ ---
**Author:** ![lpkehr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@lpkehr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lpkehr)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 11:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/10 "2012-06-07T11:46:41Z")
> [@lostguy](#): > > well i used it again today 2 sprays on my neck its.. like when you uncap the bottle its smells to awesome and then boom i cannot tolerate the smell.. after putting it on no more then 2 min it smelled like i was wearing clothes that had urine for few weeks… lol sprayed alot of cover up scents but too strong.. (im 25…) but i didnt get to notice much from it since i was only out for an hr but I was more focused on the bad smell of it lol it just might stay capped for now.. _Sighs_ Yup after a little more experience with this, I am beginning to feel the same way. Like it is waaaay too strong a scent-like an old woody/musky/burnt tone. But it did have some sort of effects, because I tried to OD on this and got a very spaced out sense, harder to think/focus on a lot of sprays. At lower amounts, ppl where very chatty. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@Turbo2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Turbo2)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/11 "2012-06-07T23:55:48Z")
Hi, First time posting for a product test, my experience is limited bare in mind. First time using the mx454 i went out for dinner with friends as soon as i got into the car with my mate he started talking instantly about problems with work which he sometimes doesn’t mention, not sure if this is the mx454 Got to the restaurant and as soon as i sat down across from me was my mates partner and her best friend, we all started chatting instantly and the were laughing lots, i was a bit shocked by the reaction as my mates gf is a bit stand offish with me and a bit negative towards me… not tonight The night seemed to go fine every one was chatting as normal and i forgot about the mones… as soon as we got up to leave i turned around and noticed a few younger girls around 18 sitting behind me and one looked at me and i looked at her then she looked away then her friend looked at me and the same thing looked away then the first girl looked at me again same thing then another girl sitting with them looked at me and looked away, i was freaking out inside but kept my happy face on laughing with my friends, i have never had this before im sure it must be the mx454 it was really weird, so weird i hope i didnt have food on my teeth or something stuck the the side of my mouth, i have to try this stuff again… i used 1 and a half pumps as the first pump was shit half spray. The self effects i had during the night were very happy and uplifting The smell of this stuff is nice and mixed easy with my cologne. Cant wait for another outing with this stuff, i want to see if i get the same response again or something different ---
**Author:** ![lpkehr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@lpkehr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lpkehr)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/12 "2012-06-08T10:11:14Z")
> [@giantb](#): > > Hi, > > First time posting for a product test, my experience is limited bare in mind. > > First time using the mx454 i went out for dinner with friends as soon as i got into the car with my mate he started talking instantly about problems with work which he sometimes doesn’t mention, not sure if this is the mx454 > > Got to the restaurant and as soon as i sat down across from me was my mates partner and her best friend, we all started chatting instantly and the were laughing lots, i was a bit shocked by the reaction as my mates gf is a bit stand offish with me and a bit negative towards me… not tonight > > The night seemed to go fine every one was chatting as normal and i forgot about the mones… as soon as we got up to leave i turned around and noticed a few younger girls around 18 sitting behind me and one looked at me and i looked at her then she looked away then her friend looked at me and the same thing looked away then the first girl looked at me again same thing then another girl sitting with them looked at me and looked away, i was freaking out inside but kept my happy face on laughing with my friends, i have never had this before im sure it must be the mx454 it was really weird, so weird i hope i didnt have food on my teeth or something stuck the the side of my mouth, i have to try this stuff again… i used 1 and a half pumps as the first pump was shit half spray. > > The self effects i had during the night were very happy and uplifting > > The smell of this stuff is nice and mixed easy with my cologne. > > Cant wait for another outing with this stuff, i want to see if i get the same response again or something different Wow! cool experience! very insightful glad to hear your view on the mx454. I think one of the most obvious effects of this interesting mixture is that it makes everyone who wears it start a brand new thread on it. It happened to me also. Must be a factor to be considered. ---
**Author:** ![lpkehr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@lpkehr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lpkehr)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/13 "2012-06-09T07:07:00Z")
i hope you didn’t take that the wrong way, i am totally being honest with you. i tried this mx out myself and then felt the need to write “my own” thread. like it would be wrong for my to “steal” someone else’s. now looking back, i am wondering if you felt the same way. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@Turbo2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Turbo2)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx454-discussion-thread/61485/14 "2012-06-12T21:17:06Z")
> [@lpkehr](#): > > i hope you didn’t take that the wrong way, i am totally being honest with you. i tried this mx out myself and then felt the need to write “my own” thread. like it would be wrong for my to “steal” someone else’s. now looking back, i am wondering if you felt the same way. no offence takin is mods can move it or whatever needed 🙂