# The OFFICIAL MX461 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [January 27, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505 "2011-01-27T01:20:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![RJS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RJS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RJS)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/1 "2011-01-27T01:20:13Z")

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**What is MX461?**

**MX461** is a part of Project UF2.5.

The update to Project UF1 and Project UF2.

The sequel to MX292 and other Phero BOMB mixes before them.

**Status:**  **Not Currently in Production**

**Request MX461 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com)

**Quote from original Release Thread[January 3rd, 2012]:**

> [@](#):
>
> Today, we reveal Project UF2.5: MX460 - MX462 to a VERY SELECT GROUP of testers.
> 
> If you were in any way interested in ultra f\* mixes, this is your pack.
> 
> … but it’s only available to people who have tested AND reported on Project UF1 or Project UF2.
> 
> I repeat, ONLY people who have tested Project UF1 or Project UF2 can qualify to receive Project UF2.5.
> 
> (We may make ONE exception to this guideline and give a pack to someone who writes a REALLY GOOD REASON why we should offer it to him. Will that be you? Depends! Might as well try and send us a PM, eh? Serious testers only. Pussies need not apply. )

> **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/new-project-uf2-5-available-now-58944.html)**
>
> Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life

**How to Test:**

Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

**What to Report:**

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

**Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

**Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

**Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

**Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

**Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?  
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?  
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?  
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS  
Research Assistant  
Androtics Direct

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/2 "2012-12-26T11:09:30Z")

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Wow, that’s some pretty pimp action right there, but expected from you. Great read and sounding like you’re going to have some fun with this blend. Looking forward to reading more about this oldy but goody

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/3 "2013-02-05T18:42:30Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> **MX460**
> 
> With this one I’m not too sure about. I’ve tried it from a range of one spray all the way to 4. I tried it on multiple occasions and at multiple locations. Quite frankly I haven’t really seen much. It could just be me but I don’t know. I will say that I haven’t really been feeling a grade over last couple weeks. This juice fast has got me experiencing a healing crisis which is pretty much kicked my ass. It just seems to me that I’m not really getting the results that I expected.
> 
> I’ve reading some reports that some community members have written and they seem to be getting okay results. On the other hand I’ve read quite a few reports that are right along the lines of my thinking. I’m really not too sure about this one. I guess that’s what makes the whole stealth diffusion technology so exciting to be able to test it. If you think about it you’re on the ground floor of an incredible opportunity.
> 
> **MX461**  
> I started this one at 3 sprays and the results were inconclusive however, that doesn’t mean that it didn’t work it just means that I have to go back and retry at different levels.
> 
> **MX462**  
> This one rocks, its my absolute favorite. I’ve used it at one 2 and 3 sprays with great success. I haven’t really been going out to much because of the juice fast and the point that I’ve quit drinking. Drinking doesn’t really go when you’re transforming your lifestyle. So unless it’s a special occasion I just don’t feel it’s going to be in the cards anytime soon. I’ve had the opportunity to test this out on multiple occasions multiple targets multiple times all with excellent results.
> 
> What I really like about this one is that it seems to sneak up under the radar and pack a wallop. Like for instance the other day I was in a coffee shop and these 2 younger girls, I would say about 18, came in to get some coffee. I was sitting on one of the couches working on my blog minding my own business. They were just a little bit too young for me and way too skinny. I do like a petite girl but she’s got a have a little bit meat. I’m not talking thick but still. Anyway like I said I was minding my business just typing away. What I noticed though is that both of them came over to the little kiosk that was really out-of-the-way and closest to me even though I was in the corner. They could’ve just of easily gone to any of the stands that were way closer to them but they chose to go to the one right next to me.
> 
> Now this in itself could have just been coincidence or as I like to think the direct result of MX462. What really was interesting though was the fact that the kiosk and where I was sitting made it so they would have to stand with there sides to me. Surprisingly enough though, they decided to stand facing me while looking at the contents of the kiosk from the side. I went along with it and smiled and they smile back at me. Now that might’ve been surprising but what happened next was shocking. One of the girls took one of the coffee off the shelf and dropped it. Almost as if on cue she turned so her butt was facing me and bent over to pick it up. I let out a little bit of a laugh and they started to giggle. their drinks were ready so they headed out the door but not before both of them looked over the shoulder and smiled at me.
> 
> Now I would like to think that was all me but MX462 seems to do pretty good job every time I wear it. Well after the coffee shop I went to Kroger’s. I needed to get some distilled water since my Township water is poisoned with fluoride. Yeah I understand BPA’s but I have some 5 gallon containers that are BPA free. Usually I’ll pick up about 15 gallons at a time. There was only 3 options to check out: the hot blonde the old lady or self checkout. Guess which one I chose? LOLz, the hot blonde. Lucky for me the old lady had somebody with a full basket and the hot blonde only had a lady with coffee. HAH I never realized the coffee equation.
> 
> Turns out the hot blonde was very talkative. She started asking me all types of questions about distilled water. I thought that was a very interesting topic to bring up to get to talk to somebody so went along with the conversation. I’ve been off my game for little while because as I mentioned I’m transforming my life and don’t want to be just another man whore. This girl was beautiful though so I wasn’t sure what the rules were at Kroger but I figured I’d take a chance and ask her for her number. Well again what happened next was kind of shocking. As I’m sliding my card to pay for it she just happens to turn around to ask the old lady why no one lays out her check out. In the process she gave me a full view of her butt and oh Lord it was brilliant.
> 
> When she turned around and flashed her baby blues and me I just melted. God these country girls do it to me every time. Well I finally have my nerve up to ask her out when her manager came up and asked the old lady and the bag guy to come with him for a second leaving her and I alone. The God of all things pink and squishy was shining down on me. I took the opportunity to throw some cheap lines at her and I guess it worked because I got the number and I got the date. Hell yeah!
> 
> I also feel good enough to go out tonight so should have some other reports to provide feedback.

First off, hey Steve and hey all. I’m pretty new to these forums so this is kinda my first post. I will be ordering my newb kit in about a few weeks. Next i wanted to say Steve i just finished reading your review of MX462 and i thought it was pretty interesting. And nice going with the blonde there at the end. 🆒 Just wanted to let you know and everyone part of this topic that i’m pretty interested in trying this out. I know at the beginning it says something about pming about a chance to try/test these mixes and reporting on them, so i thought that would be something i wouldn’t mind doing. It be pretty awesome actually. Especially because it’ll be the first thing i’ll be doing as a newcomer. Well, that is all for now. Again cool success story Steve. Peace out for now! 😃

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/4 "2011-02-20T19:26:56Z")

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I haven’t made my mind up on this yet but I’m thinking MX461 isn’t as good as MX462.

Still need to take it out more but thats my initial impression.

I also accidentally sprayed some on my cheek on one of the few test runs as opposed to my neck and I feel a sticky residue there now ever so slightly like when my to-go’s would leak.. interesting.

I also feel like this one makes me more inclined to be social, a bit less cheerful, and a bit less draw of attention from around me.

Very preliminary, have to take it out more…

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/5 "2012-01-23T17:53:41Z")

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A number of times now when wearing MX461 around family or acquaintances they keep invading my space or grabbing at me. Thought I’d take note of it, it would seem to be [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) or some other dis-inhibitor. Also insistently talking, some socials as expected… I will try to gauge if it is alot more then MX462, or only a little more.

A side note, anyone know if we are to make our own treads in the new mx reporting section?

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/6 "2012-01-24T05:15:00Z")

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I tested out MX461 last night with two sprays to the neck. This was a party environment with many competing scents. I had a warmer body temp feeling and the indoor temps were around the 70’s with moderate humidity.

I went out for my bday and at first glance I haven’t had any noticeable reactions from this. I asked my gf later on if she felt anything and she didn’t. Even with the alcohol and reduced inhibition I didn’t notice anything remotely different with the girls I knew. I danced a couple of times with a few girl friends and it wasn’t really anything more than a friendly dance. I also didn’t notice anything from the girls that didn’t know I had a gf. I’ll test it out later on but so far nothing.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/7 "2012-02-03T21:29:28Z")

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okkk just came back from a party  
I decided to test MX462 and omg got some pretty good hits..

Mones used

1. mx462 x 2

2. Purpose  
Testing

3. Location  
Club packed and sweaty

4. Self effects  
Tbh i think its even harder for me to notice self effects since i already found it hard to get effects with stronger scent..But i think it kinda made me social in a way that im not too nervous when coming up to meet ppl and talk to them..

5. People’s Reaction  
hahhahaha so i was standing outside waiting to get in the union and at first i was like oookkaaay i dont see any subtle form of hits as i was surrounded by some females yet i didnt get much hits as some of the previous mixes…  
But then i got inside and i was gonna put my coat and again waited in line -\_- which was long… but as a street magician i just turn back around and this english girl, really cute next door blonde girl, starts smiling and talking to me… so i took out my psypher pad, did a mind reading trick and we started talking a lott before we reach the end of the line where she gave a a hug with some major boobage which was great but we had to split as i was wit my other friends…  
Other than that, i kinda noticed some stares and got a grind from a girl who kept watching me again and again… but she wasnt that cute…  
Also to note… some guys were staring but as soon as i gave a nod they kinda nodded back and smiled with respect and stuff…

Conclusions  
Well good mix but i havent done mx461 and mx460 but from this i kinda conclude that SDT may be a bit hard for clubs as they reek of alcohol…i was sober actually coz i had to take care some of my friends that night…  
Gonna test mx456 and mx457 during my day time but im not sure how to test the mx458 (P130)? Any suggestions and feedback would be great..

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/8 "2012-02-15T15:54:33Z")

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**MX461**

Tried MX461, with the touted S.D.T. It DOES leave a very small scent footprint. I cannot tell I have it on within about 3 minutes of application. Seems counter intuitive to have this on and expect reactions. I guess I’m still ‘Old School’ as to the scent packages from my first try outs with mones, expecting that a stronger scent sillage would be necessary for larger effect. Need to have a change in my mental thought processes.

So, I applied 1 spray to the tops of my hands with nothing more… no other mones that is, in the morning. I’ve had some rough days recently with some extreme work schedules as well as volunteer issue ‘requests’. Plenty of built up stress levels! Now, with this mone, I’ve been cool headed much of the time. Whenever I’d be stressing out to much, I could take a breath or two and get back into what I need to do.

From others reactions, find it like a comforting vibe that I promote. I do feel that it sustains me for @3 to 4 hours then, during the 4th to 5th hour, the slide back to stressdom. I reapply @ 5 hour mark, for the last few days and it is working out just fine.

At work, the conferences that I’ve had seem to be almost jovial, though the work is piling up. Stress levels seem to decrease with this MX. Do like it. Not the obvious hits of IO or IShine that I’ve seen. More of a tranquil or calmness that has an emphasis of a quiet strength that you exhude.

I’ll have to try out the other MX’s and see if they have the same or similar properties.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/9 "2012-02-26T15:59:03Z")

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**Sunday** \*\*  
February 26, 2012

\*\*My apologies for not reporting anything in the last few weeks. I’ve spent it doing some self-effect and sweet spot testing for UF2.5 (MX460-462). Of the three, MX460 is not much of anything except getting me irritable at higher doses. MX461 and MX462 are interesting but in different ways.

MX461 really boosts my mood at 3 sprays to the point of almost intoxicating. That has become my sweet spot. MX462 seems to have some good effects on females, but I still have to pinpoint exactly what it does and my optimum level. I went to get my haircut last Saturday at some Aveda salon, and I made an appointment with some unknown female. I used a mix with MX462 as the base, but for the life of me cannot remember what. I know A314, IS and IO were part of it though.

The female (Amy) cutting my hair turned out to be late 20’s in my estimation. Attractive. Still a good test and a good environment, because Aveda salons normally have a lot of women. So Amy gives me the hair washing of my life, very slow and massaging my temples and the whole nine yards. It actually can be very sensual! 🆒 I was really cocky and confident, and she really dug it. She was very open to me, and any gaps in the conversation while she was cutting was quickly filled in by her questions. She had a very nice tattoo on her arm and I made a comment about it. She stands very close to me, facing me while I am sitting, and her arm is up against me and she is letting me check it out as we chat. We probably talked a good 10 minutes without her doing her job 😛 but she at least had the comb and scissors in her hand. We just hit it off right from the very start, and I am looking forward to my next visit out here.

So today I was going to the local blood bank and run a few errands, so I decided to try something completely new.

1 x Heavy TUTH  
1 x IS  
1 x [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)  
1 x AndrosteRONE

The blood bank was empty except for four nurses. Two of them were well in their 40’s, one in her 30’s, and a young Hispanic nurse who was mid 20’s. She was very pretty and awesome dimples when she smiled. Luckily she was the one that took me in a room where she conducted some initial tests and gave me the questionnaire. She was very friendly and open, touching my vein and how big it was, saying she could probably see it from “outer space” 😃 I was playing around with her with some fun banter, and she was game.

When I got to the lounge chair to bleed, the nurse that spent the most time with me was one of the older ones. We had a very good rapport, but the young Hispanic gal is moving around the facility doing some cleanup and she keeps sneaking glances. As soon as I catch eye contact with her, down her eyes go. She’s a honey.

I’ve been definitely getting better at the art of banter with positive feedback. The right mone mix is very important to enhance the whole experience without coming across as the creepy guy. I am beginning to understand the art behind it.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 9:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx461-discussion-thread/61505/10 "2012-06-21T09:48:49Z")

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While on vacation I primarily used MX461 and Steves ICM3.0 (Evolve). I met some very fascinating people from around the world. I had many opportunities to be with them but I kept it on a light and fun level just to see how many women I could interact with and not become someone ‘property’ which was the fate of my friend.

MX461 was very interesting, I had a very outgoing women in her mid twenties who was attached start talking about my aura when I was wearing this. We had been drinking together for about 10min at a few feet away. She described me as someone that demands to be talked to, that just draws people in and its inescapable. Also that night when I was more intoxicated a couple from the UK prity much threw there baby on me saying “here you hold him!” Amazing that they trusted me with this!

Another day when wearing the ICM3.0 I said hi to 2 tall blond Hungarian models and ended up spending the day splashing around in the ocean, taking pictures and having fun. It felt so natural that I be there beside them. We then went to have drinks, dinner, splashing around in a pool with more pictures then they when to there room for a rest. Next day was the same thing! Lots of fun. But on the second day they were close to the time they were leaving so less ecstatic. I remember them commenting on how I was the most friendly person they met on the resort and how everyone else just didn’t ‘click’

Was a few other interactions but these were the highlights, in total it really helped me to see my own self worth. It was funny, I’d get comments from some of my new buddies saying “god I wish I were you!!” I’d just laugh…
