# The OFFICIAL MX463 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [January 27, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507 "2011-01-27T01:20:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RJS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RJS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RJS)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/1 "2011-01-27T01:20:13Z")
**What is MX463?** MX463 comes under Exclusive **MX463-465 PACK.** Here’s 3 pheromone mixes from an old, famous, well loved pheromone formulator in Europe, who’s been in the game at least as long as the first [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) from 1981 called Andron. They’re MX463, MX464 , and MX465 . These are intended to be “sexy” (the original purpose of commercial human pheromones). They are combined with the same “blue note” type scent we use in Ammo Summer. **Status:**** Current in Production** **Get MX here** :[https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Try 'em out! Let us know what you think. **How to Test:** Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points. This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything. We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne. Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling? What to Report: We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here. **Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle? **Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane? **Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to staying power, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another? **Effectiveness & Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time? **Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage? Other weird questions that help clarify: If it were music, what would it sound like? If it had a texture, what would it feel like? If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like? What celebrity or public figure is it most like? Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix. Thank you, RJS Research Assistant Androtics Direct ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/2 "2011-02-07T18:24:06Z")
So, I know I’m not the only one who made a Hump Day order and got the exclusive new pack included. Let this be the venue for future testing and reporting… eager to see what the mixes can do! Anyone have any insider information, or guesses as to what this is geared toward? Possibly the next iteration of the “UF” mixes? I’m basing that solely because the last UF batch was 460-462… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/3 "2013-08-08T11:33:01Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > Anyone have any insider information, or guesses as to what this is geared toward? Possibly the next iteration of the “UF” mixes? I’m basing that solely because the last UF batch was 460-462… Good guess, but no, not a new iteration of UF. !!! I have some insider information, BUT! I’ve been told to keep mum until some reports from the wild have shown up. Seeing as everyone stateside should start seeing their orders today or tomorrow, and our friends outside this continent should start showing up tomorrow and Monday, I’m hoping a few wise people out there will go ahead and post their first impressions! Remember. One at a time. Don’t layer. Don’t mix. One. At. A. Time. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/4 "2013-08-08T11:43:55Z")
Got it! I’ll gladly abide, but it’ll be a week or so before I’m able to test and report. This week is all about testing the consumer line i just received and the goodies that came with it! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/5 "2013-08-09T07:28:11Z")
John, would it be possible to offer any tips on how and where would be best to give these a try? I’m not looking for too much insight, just enough to get us on the right track. “Do not wear around children”, “Do not wear around your Mother”, “Recommend not operating heavy equipment”… that sort of thing 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mzatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@mzatu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mzatu)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/6 "2013-08-09T08:42:57Z")
Looking forward to trying this out as well 😃 not sure when my order is going to ship though yet! Was going to ask if they should be tried by themselves and got my answer already! Can’t wait. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 11:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/7 "2013-08-09T11:15:17Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > John, would it be possible to offer any tips on how and where would be best to give these a try? I’m not looking for too much insight, just enough to get us on the right track. > > “Do not wear around children”, “Do not wear around your Mother”, “Recommend not operating heavy equipment”… that sort of thing 🆒 Yes. I can offer a smidge of insight for this. 1. First impressions. Spray ONCE to your wrist. Let dry down (1-2 mins). Sniff. Record your thoughts, feelings, emotions IMMEDIATELY when they’re fresh. (Be it on a notebook, piece of paper, iphone, what have you – you can always paste it to the OFFICIAL thread later, which I will link to later, when it is made.) From there, let your EMOTION be your guide. Your first impression of the mix should generally steer you in the direction you can take for the day. (And this goes for everything). So, to bounce your question right back to you, following FIRST SNIFF, Would you wear it around children? Would you wear it around your mother? Would you operate heavy equipment? **Let FIRST SNIFF be your guide.** ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/8 "2013-08-09T11:26:54Z")
ha! I like it! well, while you certainly can dodge a question, you made me even more intrigued! 😉 thanks for the tips on how to proceed. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 8:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/9 "2013-08-12T08:47:35Z")
Juiiii… stuff came in today and John has added quite a few freebees .. Do you guys have a new scent … it smells amazing .. starts a bit musky .. becomes sweet .. fresh .. a little bit soapy .. yes i got it .. it smells like expensive soap .. its not overbearing .. i really like it .. Self effects of the Mx .. i started with MX463 . its mindblowing . mind expanding .. makes all senses sharper .. extreme focus .. words flow really easy .. so far .. i would wear it around children … around my Mom for sure .. but not sure about the thing with heavy equipment .. because of the extreme focus it makes .. its mood elevating .. quite a bit energizing .. concentration of the mix is strong .. really stimulating stuff … **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/10 "2013-08-12T08:53:26Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > ha! I like it! well, while you certainly can dodge a question, you made me even more intrigued! 😉 thanks for the tips on how to proceed. He’s not dodging the question - It really does help everyone best if you approach the Ps and MX’s without any kind of prejudice/preconceptions. ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/11 "2013-08-12T08:59:25Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > He’s not dodging the question - It really does help everyone best if you approach the Ps and MX’s without any kind of prejudice/preconceptions. Oh I know it, just giving him a hard time. I’m on vacation until next Monday, so my reports will have to wait! ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/12 "2013-08-18T08:55:10Z")
Did wear 2 sprays at work .. Upscale supermarket .. our customers are upper middle class .. and the wealthier retired peeps in towm .. we are hip .. hehe I’m the manager of that supermarket .. Well .. put on 2 sprays in the morning and it was really interesting to see what happened .. stuff is extremely dominant and commanding .. peeps are very much intimidated .. and tell me excuse me .. i have forgotten this or that .. minor things .. but they come to talk to me and say sorry . for things that happen .. and i would usually not comment on .. When i talk to peeps they do not look me into the eyes .. the avoid eye contact .. do not search proximity .. i would not say this is a charming product … but the self effects are quite interesting and i will continue testing .. **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/13 "2013-08-18T17:51:14Z")
Pago, were you trying the 463 again or had you moved on to one of the other sprays? Have you tried 464 and 465 yet? > [@Pagodeiro](#): > > Did wear 2 sprays at work .. > > Upscale supermarket .. our customers are upper middle class .. and the wealthier retired peeps in towm .. we are hip .. hehe > > I’m the manager of that supermarket .. > > Well .. put on 2 sprays in the morning and it was really interesting to see what happened .. > stuff is extremely dominant and commanding .. peeps are very much intimidated .. and tell me excuse me .. i have forgotten this or that .. minor things .. but they come to talk to me and say sorry . for things that happen .. and i would usually not comment on .. > > When i talk to peeps they do not look me into the eyes .. the avoid eye contact .. do not search proximity .. > > i would not say this is a charming product … but the self effects are quite interesting and i will continue testing .. > > **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/14 "2013-08-20T16:06:10Z")
Ok, first go with MX463… no rhyme or reason other than it’s the first numerically speaking… 5:30pm - One spray to my wrist. Let dry and took a big whiff. First impression was very nice! Sweet and musky like Pago mentioned, with the sweet winning out just slightly. After a few minutes the musk started to win out, and the soapy scent came through. It reminds me of a scented lotion that you’d find on the bathroom counter at an expensive hotel. Self effects - After 10 minutes I noticed my heart rate had increased, and breathing to match. It wasn’t over the top, but enough that I could compare it to grabbing a Quad-Shot at Starbucks or having a couple cups of coffee back-to-back (I’m a coffee drinker, so somewhat used to caffeine). Senses didn’t seem “sharper”, but slightly heightened, again, like on a caffeine (or adrenaline??) high? I had a headache before I even sprayed it, and it remained the entire time. I had very little social interaction during this test, focusing mainly on self effects for the first spray. It feels aggressive. Between the musky smell and the increased heart rate etc, it feels like something I’d put on prior to going for a run or to the gym, or something I’d try to layer with a social mix to boost my energy before going out for the night. I’ll try two shots tomorrow when I don’t have a headache, and when I feel my usual self, and report back. I’ll be at work, so I can rate the social factor as well… ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/15 "2013-08-21T04:15:18Z")
8:20am - Fresh out of the shower, ate breakfast, on my way into work. 2 sprays MX463. One per wrist. I’m immediately turned off by the scent. It’s musky and overwhelming… heavier than yesterday (maybe due to the extra spray? Duh..) Not something I’d ever consider buying myself if I sniffed it in a cologne bottle, unless it was used in very little moderation. I’ll report back in a few hours on self effects and any Hits… EDIT 1) 9am - The overwhelming smell has faded significantly and is more pleasant than when it began. Note To Self: Let the sprays dry down a bit before forming a full opinion 😃 EDIT 2) 11:30am - The smell has faded further, and is quite pleasant now. I find myself sniffing my wrists from time to time. Self effects were simliar to yesterdays trial. Increased heart rate, but it was less noticeable since I was a lot more active this morning at work. Walking tall, feel confident. I also have a small headache again, which is very unusual for me… I Never get them. Social: Nothing unusual has happened that would make me consider it a Hit. My guy friends were all open and friendly… no signs of intimidation. I’m an Officer, and work in an environment surrounded by Enlisted personnel, so they’re always courteous and address me as “Sir”. I may have to work this test out in public somewhere else where that type of response would be abnormal. ---
**Author:** ![mzatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@mzatu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mzatu)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 11:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/16 "2013-08-21T11:19:08Z")
Tried the mx463 today one shot to each wrist as well didn’t notice the smell being overwhelming or anything as sharkndragon did. haven’t noticed any self effects and havent really been around anyone else to see yet either but may find out in a bit ! Its only beenabout a half anhour so will report more later ---
**Author:** ![mzatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@mzatu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mzatu)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/17 "2013-08-22T22:02:25Z")
Not a whole lot noticed for self effect I feel a bit more confident with it. business seems to act more like I was an important/valuable customer or seemed to have more respect it seemed. didn’t get around any friends really but that was about all I’ve noticed. ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/18 "2013-09-04T18:01:19Z")
20AUG13 MX463 TESTING **as per Johns suggestion, 1 spray to the wrist, sniff, and report** Sweet and Musky once dried down. Has an expensive soapy undertone, like something you’d get at a nice hotel. 20min - I can feel my heart rate elevated a bit, feels like a caffeine kick. NEXT DAY - 2 sprays MX463 - Noted increased heart rate again, but nothing more than a caffeine high again. ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/19 "2013-09-04T18:07:08Z")
26AUG13 MX464 0820 - 1 spray to the wrist. Let dry down for a couple minutes and took a Whif… Smell was very similar to MX463, if not the same. Sweet and musky, and not unpleasant once dried down. No noticeable self effects initially. 1030 - Arrived at work around 0830, and since then have been feeling quite anxious. I had a couple of tasks that I’ve been dreading all weekend, but this morning I just felt down right scared. I was nervous/anxious, hands slightly shaking… not very typical for me. I was also tired and lethargic, even though I felt like I got some good sleep last night. The entire morning I felt like reaching for my bottle of IS to help bring me up to a reasonable level. Could this mix be some sort of mood enhancer? Regardless of the mood, it works to break it out, make it more Bold and pronounced? 1200 - After I completed the task I was so worked up over, I immediately felt a little better. Though in the back of my mind I’m still concerned about its outcome, I’m not anywhere near as anxious as I was this morning. I’m less tired, too. Some coffee likely helped.. Social Effects - tough to say yet. Everyone in the office was talkative and attentive, but nothing unusual to note. Overall, I don’t like the way I feel today. I can’t say for sure that it’s 464’s fault, but I also can’t rule it out. I will wait for a day when I feel Good, less on my mind etc, and give it another try. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507/20 "2013-09-30T11:08:19Z")
o.k. .. here we go .. have been digging out MX463 and put on one spray at the afternoon .. this is really strong stuff i noticed the last times i used it and in put on only ONE spray this time .. well it overrides all other stuff you have on .. ( had put on some IG on cloth one hour before ) It made me extreme confident .. somewhat aggressive .. it’s the ultimate .. who cares about the Sun as long as the planets are surrounding me .. extreme confidence boost … made me as well very much outgoing but still really concentrated . very good motivational effects as well .. no negative side effects .. **Pago** [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx463-discussion-thread/61507.md?page=2)