# The OFFICIAL MX487-MX491 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [November 10, 2014, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205 "2014-11-10T11:09:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/1 "2014-11-10T11:09:47Z")
**What is MX487-MX491?** This MX Pack is a 5-bottle bundle, value priced at $49.95 for Reporting Users. [Official Store Announcement thread here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/announcing-official-new-mx-releases/63192/2). To avoid influencing your feedback, we say as little as possible about effects or specifics. Here’s what we _can_ tell you: Love Pack 1 is intended for anyone who wants a little more love and warmth in their life. You can safely wear these mixes in most social situations. If one of these mixes were to sell at retail, they would range between $20 - 40 apiece. Currently available in a two separate flavors: MX466 - MX470: Vanilla MX487 - MX491: [Blue Summer](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/blue-summer/) **Status:**** Currently in Production** **Feedback Embargo:**** In Effect. **** MORE** reports needed to unlock THIS thread! **Fragrance:** Blue Summer **Audience:** For Men **Formulator:** Androtics **Related Products:** MX466 - MX470 **Release Date:** Nov. 2014 **Production Run:** First Batch **Pricing Convention:** [Read here about Bias-Corrected First Run Pricing](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/welcome-to-the-official-mens-mx-forum-read-here-first/63162). “How Much Does An MX Cost?” **Get MX here:** [Androtics Direct :: Experimental Test Mixes :: MX Mix Packs :: MX487-MX491](https://a314.com/) **How to Test:** Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points. This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything. We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne. Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling? What to Report: We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here. **Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle? **Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane? **Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to “staying power,” or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another? **Effectiveness & Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time? **Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your “vapor trail.” Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage? Other weird questions that help clarify: If it were music, what would it sound like? If it had a texture, what would it feel like? If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like? What celebrity or public figure is it most like? Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/2 "2014-11-12T18:23:08Z")
testing thread ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 9:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/3 "2014-12-11T09:03:09Z")
I think I’m gonna subscribe to this one. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/4 "2014-12-17T19:22:28Z")
MX487 - Two and two and a half sprays, neck/throat. Flaming-heck - Its certainly an attention getter! 😮 Women walking along at 8-10 feet passing me, screwing themselves round to get a better look, checking me out when standing/sitting nearby, smiling and random chit-chat, age range - 20s to late 30s/early 40s - Two young waitresses in a cafe were far more flirty and animated than I’ve been used to. Wore it to a film event last night - Huge social engagement overall and a very positive response from a small smart Indian lady (early 40s) - Who got very close when talking, bent down to rummage in her bag, then stood-up and more or less sniffed me all the from crotch to throat. Her recent ex-husband was over the other side of the room looking-on in shock! Then got talking to a Canadian lady cleric (40s, still very fit)- very chatty, laughing, again very close. Moreso than any time I’ve talked to her and much more physical - touching/tapping briefly holding me with both hands and when she had to leave with the inviteds for dinner, she was very apologetic about having to go. Good social responses around men - Maybe too good. Got talking to one art historian in great depth about a couple of paintings he’s uncovered - I think I’ve landed some of our lab guys the job of taking a much closer look at them in a scientific way. :o Then another very chatty guy, 50s - to the point that he was still going-strong whilst I was giving-out all the social signals of an angry porcupine, putting my coat and hat-on because I wanted to go home to my bed! Self-effects, initially light bright, uplifting, spring in the step kind-of pleasant (might indicate a good whack of TAA in the mix?). The [Blue Summer](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/blue-summer/) scent is slightly sharper on the nose than its implementation in Summer Ammo but still good and it lasted very well indeed - Still projecting well till I washed. Four hours-in however I’m crashing a bit. Rather more tired/drawn and DGAF-tired than I’d normally expect to be, also with not much appetite. Once I got home, I’d run to six hours and I was quite glad to wash it off and get some sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 11:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/5 "2014-12-24T11:55:29Z")
Apologies for posting in the wrong thread before! This is the right place. I tested MX487 at two sprays to the front of my neck. It felt like pure bottled rage.. think of Guy Gardner as a Red Lantern and letting go. That. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/d/d28564d1614ba06e81894f7fdb7c5969f8a74826.png) Kick-ass and smooth with the ladies. So it’s like a -none mix but so smooth and controlled at the same time. Tested with two asian ladies, one ended up kissing me and cupping a feel of my crotch. That’s what this baby did. If you need more details I can give them by email or PM.. I love this! ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2015, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/6 "2015-01-30T06:10:13Z")
MX490 Uncensored Report Via Email: Gender: Male Location: USA Hello, This is jazzysax from the forum. Shipping came in a little late due to a heavy winter storm on the east coast, but the love pack finally arrived. Ok here’s my report for MX490 so far. Strength - How strong did you feel the effects? I felt almost like I was in love. Even though I wasn’t thinking about anything or anyone at the time, I felt this happy joyous feeling. I sprayed before driving out to the mall, so I felt it maybe about 10 minutes in. Length of Effects - I noticed about 10 minutes in after the spray it came on with this love feeling, and then probably after a couple of hours of shopping, it stopped. Tenacity -I would say this is a quite one but then hits you hard after the first 10 minutes. Effectiveness & Consistency- As far as others I’ve noticed mostly stares for IOI’s but not much after that. I’d say about 6 out of 10 women stared so 60% effectiveness. Diffusion/Sillage-As far as the vapor trail, I’d say it can go out a good 20 feet as people looked up from there. Other weird questions that help clarify: If it were music, what would it sound like? a perfect harmony (major 3rd) If it had a texture, what would it feel like? smooth and soft If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like? this would definitely be a sweet taste What celebrity or public figure is it most like? I don’t know exactly. Overall, I don’t think this one is a/the placebo as many stares came about and this was for 2 sprays. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2015, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/7 "2015-01-30T06:24:14Z")
Thank you for this report: > [@Charles\_W](#): > > Uncensored Report Via Email: > > Gender: Male > Location: USA > > Hello, This is jazzysax from the forum. Shipping came in a little late due to a heavy winter storm on the east coast, but the love pack finally arrived. Ok here’s my report for MX490 so far. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2015, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/8 "2015-01-30T06:30:32Z")
MX487 Thank you. Each and every report brings us closer to closing the blind test period and opening the thread to full view. > [@mobocaster](#): > > MX487 - Two and two and a half sprays, neck/throat. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2015, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/9 "2015-01-30T06:32:48Z")
MX487 Not much we can say at present during the blind testing, but we think many New Reporting Users will enjoy testing the pack. Hopefully we’ll be able to restock this one. 🙂 > [@Phoenix](#): > > Apologies for posting in the wrong thread before! This is the right place. > > I tested MX487 at two sprays to the front of my neck. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/10 "2015-01-31T14:53:50Z")
Crikey! - 2 sprays MX487 to the neck this morning and I got my backside gently fondled by a very attentive 30s bank teller - when she pulled me round to her side of the workstation to check my transfers! I did also notice the smell of Androstenone breakdown just coming through at around the two-hour mark but this morning I did apply straight after a bath, so maybe breakdown was enhanced by extra warmth/circulation. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/11 "2015-02-02T19:14:37Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Crikey! - 2 sprays MX487 to the neck this morning … Thank you. Our records show a good number of these Packs have been shipped but not reported upon. If only half who had them reported, the blind testing period might end rather quickly. If you received an email today from us and have not reported, please do so promptly in the next 30 days. Reporting Users who provide no feedback at all for many mos. may lose their discount. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/12 "2015-02-02T20:34:30Z")
> [@Charles\_W](#): > > Thank you. Our records show a good number of these Packs have been shipped but not reported upon. If only half who had them reported, the blind testing period might end rather quickly. > > If you received an email today from us and have not reported, please do so promptly in the next 30 days. > > Reporting Users who provide no feedback at all for many mos. may lose their discount. 🙂 I did not get much from this mix pack wearing them solo at 1 and 2 sprays. I was also not sure what I should be seeing with these mixes. I was expecting a lot more “warmth and love”. I also wore 2 sprays of them to work with a drop of A314 and tried to rank them () in the order in which I was receiving some interaction from co-workers. MX487 - Charming (2) MX488 - Charming (1) MX489 - Social Charming (3) MX490 - (4) MX491 - (4) However, I must point out that I think I got more interaction from co-workers with a drop of A314 and one spray of p74 (5 mcg) than any of the above mixes with a drop of A314, so I am not sure what is going on with these mixes. * * * **Consumer Line:** AMMO, A314, Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Honesty, Turn Up the heat, Instant Gentleman, Instant Jerk, Come Talk To Me Mix 2, A1 **MX Series:** MX297, MX301, MX330, MX353, MX412, MX 463-465, MX487- 491, Project UF, Project UF2, Project UF2.5 **Putatives:** P75, P78, P83, P86, P91, P93, P95, P96, P102, P103, P114, P130 **Experimones:** P74, P79, TAC, TAA, TAF, TAL ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/13 "2015-02-03T17:52:51Z")
I have more - just not had much time to write them-up recently. MX487 has been the main product I’ve been testing for the last month. Will be moving-on to the next in the set soon. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/14 "2015-02-04T09:16:19Z")
For those who have reported, thank you. MANY have not. If 2-3 more users give feedback, we may be able to end the blind testing embargo. I’m checking Brian for approval to do so. Please post your feedback today! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/15 "2015-02-09T02:05:55Z")
I’m beginning to notice a decidedly “blonde” response to MX487 - of all the best responses I’ve had, a very significant number have been from natural blondes of different ages but mainly late 20s to late 30s. Dose has still mainly been in the 2-3 spray range but yesterday, I did try one spray in a work/training course setting on top of three drops A314 Rev32 - and one woman in the group, again a fair-skinned late 20s/early 30s blonde did respond very impressively indeed. She paid more attention to me across the day than the tutors! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/16 "2015-02-10T18:21:56Z")
Yesterday, I had another flare-up of that bloody tooth abscess - So I called-up my dentist for an emergency appointment, only to be told that he was on leave and I’d have to see the new dentist in the practice. The pretty 30s Irish one! 😃 So, nothing ventured etc, on top of my 3 drops A314 work dose, I applied one spray MX487, square in the middle of my throat as that seemed to offer the best exposure and off I went. It was a good introduction, she looked at my x-rays we chatted away and she got me in the chair and started working, chatting away ll the time. After another few minutes, she finished with the abscessed tooth, explained what was going to hapen next and told me she was going to patch-up another filling that looked like it was about to fall to bits. As she told me this, she was patting my chest, open handed in a quite unconsious way. Then, she moved to start on the other tooth and I realised she had parked my head quite firmly between her breasts - which took my mind off her scraping away (yup, she used the old method!) at my unfrozen tooth. After she finished, as I thanked her and left, just a few steps out of her surgery with the door slightly open I caught her soft Irish voice, talking to the nurse - "he’s very nice, isn’t he! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/17 "2015-02-25T19:09:53Z")
I know I’ve not finished writing-up MX487 but I think I’ll get this down right now! MX488 - Second night out, this time at one spray to centre of throat, with the remains of workday A314, 3 drops over lotion at approx 10hrs ago. First hit - Early 20s small fair-skinned blonde woman - blushed scarlet from brow to bottom of fairly substantially exposed cleavage, very coy, dreamy, smiling, eyes up/down response. Second hit - Two Asian women, 30s/early 40s - one Thai and the other Phillipino. Know the Thai lady only very vaguely through a friend of a friend. Got talking to them just in the door of the shop where I was chatting to blonde girl - they pretty-much wanted to drag me off to see Fifty Shades of Grey with them! And the Thai lady was particularly insistant - she took hold of me as we walked along and stage-whispered “I’ll keep hold of you all night, so nobody thinks you are here with the fat Phillipina!” 😮😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/18 "2015-03-08T23:38:01Z")
Copied-in from journal: 3 drops A314 , 1 spray MX488, kept it low as the theatre box was pretty hot. Started by studiously ignoring the assistant director, who was quickly complaining about the heat. Within an hour she had worked her way right-up beside me and was stretching/bending/cleavage-flashing all round me for ages, whilst complaining about being “very hot” - with obvious flushing, then she pretty-much followed me around like a puppy for the rest of the rehearsal. Shortly after we’d finally finished, Von walked-up and asked me if it was ok to let the cast/crew finish and go - err, OK, I’m just tinkering with some gear for next time! Roll-on next rehearsal. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/19 "2015-03-15T20:13:43Z")
MX488 - 2 sprays, IJ - 1 spray, neck/throat. I got descended-on by the Thai woman from the other week but this time with an older, English friend. Very sociable, very chatty and Thai lady was very much after all my attention - From going into considerable blow-by blow detail of the film and what it inspired her pal to do to her husband, to screwing round in her seat till her knees were planted firmly between my legs, then she starts lifting her top to ask my opinion on how her figure was (rather fine) and what items of clothing would show her to best advantage. I have suggested a we find time to discuss this further - and she agreed wholehartedly! 😃 I also suggested she might want to help me find the best of some “test” fragrances I’ve been trying recently - And I may bring some femminine ones just for her. 😉 Oh and she’s got a pedigree pussycat - Which I have to go and play with! 😮😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/20 "2015-03-26T18:53:35Z")
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