# The OFFICIAL MX487-MX491 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** MX Test Results\ **Created:** [November 10, 2014, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205 "2014-11-10T11:09:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/21 "2015-03-28T16:18:12Z")
MX488 - approx one and a half sprays, throat. So far, all the hits have been young, the oldest is early 30s and she became very animated/showy/smily/puff-up her chest around me. Then a small dark Polish girl, early-mid 20s, stopped and monopolised me in conversation like I was a long-lost friend, again lots of smiles, laughing, moving-in close looking-up at me turning to emphasise her figure - light, fun/happy flirting. Then a small blonde Scottish girl early 20s - again similar situation, it was like she not seen me for ages, moving-in close, chatty, laughing, smiling, except this time she was more over the shoulder and emphasising her ass. In close this one seems to work best but I have had hits from a distance that would be at the normal maximum for pheros and they have still be bright and obvious. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/22 "2015-04-08T17:58:57Z")
Ok so finally I found time to write these two reports on MX490. Test of MX490 - two sprays to the neck at two different seperate occasions. 1. Carnival. I went to this yearā€™s carnival wearing MX490 as specified above. Really I didnā€™t see any strong effects if any. But the weather was very cold and I didnā€™t see too many people or floats either. So that might not be the pheroā€™s fault. 1. Date with Asian woman. I had this date with an asian woman friend. After we met (had applied MX490 - two sprays to my neck), we started making out extensively but she had her periodā€¦ I think the phero was effective on her. The next day (I took a day to write to her) she wanted to meet again urgently and I couldnā€™t make it. This got her angry and she decided not to get in touch again. And in any case I donā€™t accept this kind of behaviours. Iā€™m not sure if the phero had this negative effect on her, kind of to addict her so much that she got angry if I didnā€™t get in touch quickly enough etc. ā€“ Strength: Subtle.. no strong effects. It felt ā€œlightā€ but ok. Length of Effects - Didnā€™t notice any change really. Tenacity - At first yes itā€™s aggressive and then it dials down. Thatā€™s ok for me. Effectiveness - 8 with this Asian lady but 1 with Caucasians. Consistency - Diffusion/Sillage- Not extremely strong which is ok with me. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/23 "2015-04-24T14:02:16Z")
Thai lady has been in-touch. It seems she has changed her plans over the week of studious no-contact. I am going straight to herā€™s for dinner instead of meeting-up/going out! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![von\_phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e8c25b/32.png) [@von\_phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/von_phero)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/24 "2015-05-06T11:26:05Z")
Is this embargo over yet?? I got a lot of chatter from a 17 yo in a fast food joint, hyping up some crappy chips wearing 3 spray mxā€¦ As well as some coy looks from older ladies.. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/25 "2015-05-11T19:21:03Z")
On to MX489 now. Think Iā€™m getting the hang of these now. 2 sprays standalone: Random pretty/plump woman, just smiling/staring at me. I smiled back, looked away turned back to be rewarded with solid eye contact and her absoutely beaming back at me. Pity I was rushing elsewhere! ā˜¹ Attractive late 20s woman with highlights - Sheā€™s been transfixed by me since I sat down. When not talking to her friend, her eyes are right-on me. Smart mid-late 30s blonde woman, lots of flirty eye contact, preening, hair flicking, squaring her shoulders back at me. Lithuanian girl - broke-off conversation with someone else, grabbed me and gave my arm/back a good solid rub whilst having a brief chat in passing. Small, pretty Thai woman with baby - beaming smile and enormous cleavage flash. Donā€™t know her at all but she has probably sen me with Thai fallout before. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/26 "2015-05-20T12:40:43Z")
MX489 - one spray, nothing else. Young woman, early 20s, fidgeting, puffing-up her considerable chest and constantly looking/staring at me, trying to catch my eye. Distance - around 2m. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/27 "2015-06-15T21:16:11Z")
I have been playing with putative for a while and want to branch out into MXs now. So I read all the articles an bout the embargo and was wondering if that means not listing in my journal what I find on the MX I would be testing. I donā€™t want to ruin the testing for other. Thanks in advance ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/28 "2015-10-15T16:48:00Z")
**MX 488 Batch#1B030068 Report** **Day 1** 3 sprays to neck. I feel a little happier than normal and things seem more at peace than normal. Wife is more touchy than normal more in a fun way like tickling me than in a sexual way. This seems a lot more toned down sexually than MX 487 and a little more social. We go to breakfast and the only hit I got was the manager gave me some huge IOI and was smiling a lot. She made it a point to walk by our table which was closer to the back several times. She was around late 40ā€™s Caucasian. even my wife took notice of this and made some jokes about it. We go to grandparents house after we eat to visit. Everyone here is 60 plus Caucasian. Everyone was more friendly and lively towards me like I was the center of attention. Now I think this stuff is effecting them and me making this happen. I am being more outgoing and seem to be connecting more with my words in conversation. I seemed to be more respected to and everyone seems to value my opinion today which is cool. Everything went very well a lot more than normal. So I feel this is social, respect(beta type), with a slight hint of attraction. Everything seemed to flow just naturally and well. Very smooth like a fine wine. We decide to leave to go get groceries. BY now I have had the MX on for around 5 hours but still feel the effects a little. I split away from the wife to get a drink and I find what I want but cant reach it. There is a tall bark hair woman middle 40ā€™s next to me. She gave me a huge IOI then asked if she could get the drink for me. I said sure and thanked her. So she grabs my drink then insists she walk me up front and check me out so I say ok why not. She has this smile glued to her face and flipping her hair this whole time. She checks me out then offer to walk me outside. I am very surprised at how this hit her even after 5 hours because effects were wearing off. I thanked her and figured I better put a stop to this so I thanked her and said I needed to wait for my wife. She smiled again and said she is a lucky woman and went back to the aisle she found me. So I know we are going back to grandparents house again later for dinner and thought this would be perfect time to wash this MX off and see if my results are different than from earlier. I wash it off and back we go. So I walk in and everyone seems happy to see us again. This time everyone wasnā€™t as lively and that friendly energy flow was gone. Not only from everyone around me but me to. I was no longer the center of attention and the conversation anymore. The smooth flow was gone to. So this was a great day of testing **Day 2** 2 sprays to the neck. I feel this ok to wear to church unlike MX 487. Normally I get emotional during the singing part before the service. But with this one I was wasnā€™t at all which I found very interesting. I was even singing and pretty loud which I normally donā€™t sing at all. Maybe this thing has a small amount of whatever is in IO I donā€™t know this was just way out of character for me. After the singing we greet each other and normally this is a little awkward for a lot of us and today it felt great and natural and smooth. This MX is a smooth operator for sure. This seems to just take any social awkwardness right out of any social situation. **Day 3** 2 sprays to neck and 1 spray to left wrist and smeared to right wrist. 20 minutes later I feel this inner peace and happier like I did from day 1. Per the MX instruction sheet I decide to test with cover scent Boss Hugo Intense Cologne. I notice with all the MXS that when I use a cover scent that the scent smell of the MX and cologne seem to barely be there but I know the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) effect is still there. Scent is still there just barely. Wife comes home and again becomes very playful in a fun way. We go to nieces volleyball game(8th grade). I thought I was going to test on adults and had no idea I was going to be around more these teenage girls so this was unintentional. Anyway they are all around 13. One of them I think the captain for the team was starting to chat with me which made me feel very awkward. She is asking about how I got injured and about my wife who is a teacher there at her school. I am polite and answer her questions. Then time comes for them to play there game. 20 minutes later one of them walk by and give me a IOI. She slows her walking down to almost a stop and starts flipping her hair as she walks by which kind of creeps me out. My wife looks over and laughs and says you seem like Mr. popular. I laugh and say sure. after the game we go to midweek church service. One of the regular ladies that goes here shows up and her husband isnā€™t with her so she sits next to wife and I. She is normally very friendly but this time she is smiling a lot more. She sits abnormally close and invades my personal space. So I am very happy with this testing. **Effects** Very smooth and everything just flows better. Attention grabbing but not so much in a sexual way. I seem to be center of attention with conversations and people seem to respect me not in an alpha way like A314 but more in a much softer way. Seems to take away any social awkwardness and think this would be an IO alternative. Good MX for a shy person or introvert. Seems to have women flirting of all age ranges. **Strength** I have to give an 8. Now this thing is very subtle and a slow burner but the strength of this was there. **Length of Effects** I got 6 to 7 hours out of it with effects starting to fall of around 5 hours. **Effectiveness & Consistency** I give an 8. Really effective and consistent for me **Tenacity** This thing is a slow burner for me. It has staying power a lot of it just a more consistent slow burn to it. **Diffusion&Sillage** The sillage cloud was 4 to 6 feet to effect people and diffusion was good and consistent with effects being good throught the 5 hours and fell off slowly until I didnā€™t get many effects past 7 hours. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/29 "2015-10-27T19:09:20Z")
MX 489 Report Under Embargo Day 1 2 sprays to neck 1 left 1 right. within 10 minutes I feel a little more carefree and I am not worrying about lifeā€™s little problems. I feel a lot more social and just want to live for the moment and like nothing else matters. I donā€™t feel so irritated around the house with things that normally bother me and I feel a slight inner peace. My mind seems more calm and at rest rather than being very busy and all over the place. I go to eat at local Mexican restaurant. I am a regular so most that work there know who I am. There is a Hispanic woman late 20ā€™s who greets us. She gives a huge smile and seats us. She looks at me and just smiles and pauses for a few seconds and then asks what I would like to drink. She chats with me then takes my wifeā€™s and daughters drink then leaves. Wife immediately looks at me and asks what that was about. I just look at her like I am puzzled and say I have no idea. This same waitress walks by and every time she does she does she slows down and is smiling. I try not to notice her as I am afraid the wife will eventually get upset. 20 minutes later a different waitress Caucasian white late teens brings us the food. After she sets the plates she looks directly at me and asks if I need anything else. I say we are fine then she walks off. So the attraction factor seems great here. Day 2 3 sprays 1 left 1 right neck and 1 left wrist smeared to right. We decide to go to a charity event to help raise money for the local community. I walk in and the event coordinator greats us she is middle 50ā€™s Caucasian blonde. She just starts chatting up a storm with me and smiling a lot. She eventually leaves and goes to chat with others but I notice everywhere I go and look around I catch her looking my way and smiling even though she is talking to others. This went on the whole time I was there. So I decide to just walk around and mingle to see what is going on. I got a few IOI from random women most of them older 50 plus. I seem to attract this age group anyway. This MX seems like a mix of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) , CTTM , and IO . Very nice hits. Day 3 3 sprays 1 left 1 right neck and 1 right wrist smeared to left. I wait 10 minutes and spray my cologne Boss Hugo over this MX like the guide says. The scent settles very light but still noticeable. We go to a friends 30th B Day party. I walk in and immediately one of the older ladies comes over and starts chatting with me. Now this is out of character for her because she is normally very quite and doesnā€™t talk to anyone. I donā€™t get the flirty nature I got with the other women, more of like a social hit. I eventually sit at one of the big tables in the center of the room. As people walk by they stop and talk to me and within a few minutes they grab a chair at the table I am sitting and just keep chatting. within 20 minutes the table is full and no one is sitting at any other table. Men and women both are stopping and chatting. This MX seems very friendly with men also and works just like IO . After party is over I go to dollar store to grab a few items. There is a young early 20ā€™s Caucasian girl working there. When I go by her she immediately stops and I get a DIHL . She even walked by and brushed up against me a few times. I decide to grab what I need pretty quick and check out before this got me in trouble with the wife. Very good MX and what I like most seemed to work very well and men and women of all ages. Men were very friendly wearing this way more than normal. This was like a mix of Ammo , CTTM , and IO . Very effective. I think this is a perfect standalone MX compared to others I have tested. Strength I give an 8. This thing hit pretty hard and right away it seems. Length of Effects I got anywhere from 4 to 6 hours out of. Tenacity This thing did seem to attack people but in a good way Effectiveness&Consistency I would give an 8 pretty solid hits and with everyone and of all age ranges. Worked very well Diffusion&Sillage Vapor trail was around 5 feet so I had to invade some peoples space a little to see the effects. Maybe try in another scent like the FF/21 might help this. Texture this thing would be something smooth is the first thing that comes to my mind. \* ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/30 "2015-11-09T20:22:26Z")
**My report on MX490** **Day 1** 3 sprays 1 left neck, 1 right neck, and 1 left wrist smeared to right. No self effects that I can tell at all. Wife comes homes 30 minutes later and is more flirty than normal. We have to go to Wal Mart to buy her day a B Day gift. The only hit I got while there was a 20 blonde girl. What was weird was she was walking by and holding hands with her BF. So they walk past me and I turn back to look and so does she. I smiled and just turned around. After this we go to all you can eat china buffet where my father in laws B Day diner will be. We show up and there are only a few other family members here and everyone is very happy and chatty with me. So as more family walks in they come to where I am sitting and starts chatting and am interested in what is going on in my life. So I feel like this is a life of the party MX. I am a regular here and even the servers are being extra nice to me today. In fact my father in law even comments on how they must think it is my B Day the way they are treating me. AT the buffet bar I had a few older ladies 50 plus give me some looks and smiles but nothing major to report. **Day 2** I wear the same sprays and same app points as I did on day 1. The only difference is that I spray my midnight cologne for men by bath&bodyworks over this MX 10 minutes after I applied. This goes ok with the scent of the MX I canā€™t say great or bad just ok like 6 out of 10 if I had to rate it. Again wife becomes more touchy and flirty. we go to meet some friends and there are 3 other couples there and a single guy. We show up and immediately I am the center of attention like I was at the diner party on day 1. I find this fascinating as I get no self effects and this thing seems to come alive in bigger groups of people. Everyone just seems interested in what I have to say. A lot of friendly bonding not like P74 but it is hard to describe but people just seem connected to me. Wife noticed I am more cheery and lively with this MX and I am around a group of people and I think she is right and am glad she pointed this out. Wife just said there was this glow about me that just draws people in and rubs off on them and makes them happy and cheery to. I donā€™t see this but she does and I thank her. This thing is more social and a social lubricant than it is sexual, it does have a light friendly flirting about it. **Day 3** So I want to see how this thing effects others more than me. So I wear 1 spray left elbow, 1 right, and 1 on left wrists smeared to right for a total of 3 sprays. I decide to go with some guy friends to a local bar to play a few pool games. We walk in and go to an open pool table and we start a game and waitress comes over and she is middle 30ā€™s blonde I give an 8. She asks what we want to drink, I am checking her out pretty good and she just keeps smiling at me takes our order and goes to get our drinks. We get out drinks and then she keeps looking at me smiling then leaves. Now I know this is part of their job and they want good tips so it is hard to say if this was much of a hit. After maybe 10 minutes we were there people that walk by stop to just chat and say hi, I mean random strangers men and women. My friends even joke about it with me calling me Mr. Rogers and everyoneā€™s friend, I laugh with them and say it is all good. So again I notice in bigger crowds and with groups of people this thing comes alive and is the center of attention. I do think this thing needs a sexual like TUTH, Ammo, or just some None to really set this MX off. No self effects at all for me with this one. I almost always get self effects. I didnā€™t feel I got any status with this. I think this is a fun friendly mix. Everyone wants to be close and just chat. This MX is more suited for a social pack instead of a love pack. Highly useful MX though and I would use for church, family gatherings, or friendly settings. I didnā€™t try with a sexual but down the road I will try to test and report back on it. **Strength:** I give an 8. I think the effects were subtle and not in your face but really powerful at the same time if this makes sense. **Length of Effects:** I got around 5 hours out of it. Hard to tell onset as it seemed to work only in bigger groups. **Tenacity:** This thing did attack people but in a soft way if this makes sense. **Effectiveness&Consistency:** I would give a 7.5 out of 10. **Diffusion/Sillage:** I had a 6 foot cloud or so around me when it was working on people. If it were music and a star combined I would have to say this thing is Rick James for sure. Life of the party. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/31 "2015-11-17T23:53:49Z")
\*\*My report on MX491, \*\ ***Day 1** 2 sprays to neck 1 left and 1 right. I notice the scent is stronger in this one compared to others in the pack even though it is the same scent. 30 minutes go by and I am in a better mood. Daughter is being wound up and just being a kid, I normally would be irritated a little but today I am not the slightest bit irritated. I am enjoying my new mood and decide nothing is going to ruin it for me. This happy mood is more natural than say IS or P74. I need to go to health food store to grab a few items. I love going here because all the women are super hot including the middle 60ā€™s one. I walk in and am greeted by 28/W blonde. She asks if I need anything and just starts chatting up a storm. She is giving me bigger smiles than she normally would. Then she starts asking personal questions which I donā€™t mind she just has never down this before. We chat for a little while then I get what I need and leave. What I noticed is so far this thing is more on the social side than love or sexual side but there seems to be some attraction to this. I do find it odd about the blonde asking me so many personal questions. **Day 2** I need to get an oil change so I spray my 2 sprays on neck 1 left and 1 right. Again I notice the scent in this is pretty strong at first. I wait 10 minutes and spray my midnight cologne for men over this. I can slightly smell the [Blue Summer](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/blue-summer/) scent thru my cologne which I normally canā€™t with other mones I have in this scent. I go to the local shop here check in my car and go and wait. There is a brunette middle 30ā€™s checking me out after a few minutes of sitting down. She says hi so I say hi back and we are chatting and she seems really into me and giving the hair flips and pupils slightly dilated. Now I am wearing my wedding ring and think to myself she has to see it and know I am married. We chat for 10 minutes and then she asks if I am married and I tell her I am. Then rather quickly she has to go and then gets up and goes outside to smoke. So I am seeing some more attraction with this one. This isnā€™t life of the party like the last one in this pack, but the mood is good. **Day 3** 3 sprays 1 left neck, 1 right neck, 1 left wrist smeared to right one. Again I get the stronger scent effect for about an hour and a half then scent drops off sharply. I notice my mood is good again and more of in a natural way. We go to wifeā€™s friends B Day party. We get there and everyone seems in a great mood that comes within about 6 to 7 feet of me. Everyone including myself is being very social and engaging and all my conversations seem to flow really easy. I know half these people and they seem a little more bubbly than normal and no one at the party is drinking so this seems to have a social fun bubbly effect on everyone within about 6 feet. I am with my wife so I knew I wouldnā€™t get any hits this time as far as the women. **My Conclusion** I think this is a fun social MX with some attraction to it. There is a natural mood boost. I want to test more on younger women because I do think with this pack the higher the number the better it works on younger women. I think this MX is pretty safe for almost any environment. **Strength** I give this thing a 7. The effects were subtle. **Length of Effects** I got about 5 hours with it. **Tenacity** Seems more like a slow burner **Effectiveness & Consistency** I give an 8. I got the same effects every time. **Diffusion/Sillage** Now what was weird with this one is the scent hit super hard for about an hour and a half then dropped off really hard. But I got the same effects for about 4 to 5 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/32 "2016-04-07T14:35:40Z")
Iā€™ve had good results with MX491. Used it when an american lady (50+) came to give talks and do some healing sessions too. Ended up kissing after a healing session and it was really special. I attended her talk and I was like the prize pupil, she kept asking me to do demonstrations with her. Now Iā€™ve got a date with a latina, a brazilian woman (aged between 45 and 55 I think), so I will use MX491 once more. ---
**Author:** ![Androtics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Androtics](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androtics)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/33 "2016-05-17T19:37:45Z")
**Note:** _This is a compilation of reports submitted by a Male, RU in his 30ā€™s via email._ ==================== **December 11, 2015, 17:16** **PRODUCTS:** MX487 (Embargoed, batch #1B030068) X 2 sprays to each side of neck **Location:** Home, internet cafe, child daycare **First Impressions:** This was my first use of this product. I applied the product in the morning after a shower. It was the first time I was using a natural bodywash without sodium laureth sulfate. Upon application, the scent is very powerful, similar strength level as 3-4 sprays of Ammo 2X. I find the fragrance a bit overbearing and I used only two sprays. The trouble is, the scent remains very powerful through the whole day, I applied at 8 AM and at 7 PM, the scent was still very strong. I am not saying itā€™s a bad products, it just smells strong to me. I experienced no other physiological effects following application. There were some conflicting advice between two official sources on this forum regarding MX tests. One said: start at two sprays, the second one said: start at three sprays. So I started at two sprays this time. **Usage & Application Points:** The dosage is unknown since itā€™s a MX. I applied 2 sprays, 1 on each side of the neck. I used no cologne or cover scent this time around. **Most Appropriate Environment:** It seems appropriate in social places. It does not look like a sexual. I will have to test it further. **Types of Effects observed this time:** Attracting the attention of older folks, chatiness from older folks, mild flirting vibe (self), some reactions from ladies (wiggling on chair and such), moderate mood boosting, kino (others), affection from kids, projecting a youthful vibe (from self toward others). **Note:** I took some liberties on chronology to regroup some events concerning same persons. Otherwise, this text would be downright unreadable. And I feel it is still difficult, so sorry for that. At the child daycare, I noticed nothing obvious. However, I was in a bad mood because I had to look all over the place for the usual missing kid shoes, so maybe I was not exactly approachable (lol). There might have been a lady that was a bit restelss standing up and talking to another mother. But itā€™s a glimpse at the coner of my eyes, at best. So I will likely discard this. I decided to try going to an internet cafe, because a lot of female students do gather there. It is in the immediate vicinity of the local university. There were some young women in the place. At the table right in front of me, there were two ladies (call them #1 and #2), maybe 20, 6/10 and 8/10, both brunettes, who were working on a common project with their laptop computers. Another girl (call her #3), maybe 19, a dark blonde with long hair, 9/10, was sitting like 10 feet away on a table in the other row. So I kinda chose this spot for these three reasons. I ordered a cranberry hot cider and sat down with my computer. Ladies #1 and #2 at the table in front were like busy bees when I came in, and now they were more yakety-yaking away shallow stuff. And giggling. A bit of work, but the productivity sure plummeted for a few minutes. Another lady (#4) arrived later to join girls\*#1 and #2. I established good eye contact with the newcomer and offered her a little smile. She is cute. Man, Iā€™ll soon become a regular here šŸ™‚. Iā€™ll make sure to order only a cheap tea so as not to file up for bankruptcy though. Lol. Girl #4 had brown hair, maybe 21, she put on some headphones, altough she was at the same table as #1 and #2 and had greeted them on arrival, she was in her own world. I was looking to catch her glimpse, but man, that girl is a worker bee. Sheā€™s like inside her computer and cut from the outside world (like frickin TRON or something). After, say, ten minutes, blonde #3 switched table and she came closer, to my table at like, say, 5 feet. She had no apparent reason to do so. But sheā€™s hot as hell, so I sure donā€™t mind. Ten minutes later, she returned to her first table, without apparent reason. A lady over 60 came by and asked if she could sit at my table, itā€™s a large 8 persons table, this a free country, but itā€™s not the best person to have around to attract chicks. Two minutes later, her husband joined her. They produced some ballpens, they pulled out like 4 four different newspapers and they spread them out on the large table to spar a bit with the crosswords in coop mode. I had to politely extract myself from this ackward situation. It was like: ā€œIā€™m doing family word games with mom and dad. Bring on your Bingo marker, young lady, and join us!ā€, sheeshā€¦ I had spotted another young lady (call her #5) sitting on some confy couches at the back of the place, that section is more loungy and less cafeteria or library-like. Soā€¦ I moved to this better neighborood. The old lady seemed kinda sorry to have me moving, but hey, Iā€™m always courteous with the lilā€™ old ladies. By moving there, I was like two feet away from that new girl (#5) and two feet, at the most, behind girl #3. This was a good thing because it let me see girl #3 from another angle. The couches are like at a meter-down grade from the table she was sitting at. I supposed my cloud would better affect her at that place too. I started flipping my shirt lapel like crazy to diffuse, diffuse, diffuseā€¦ Sadly, #5 soon left. #3 was sitting like at a 120 degress angle from me in the XY-plane (sorry for the nerdy technical stuff, but itā€™s hard to be clear without it). When I came in earlier, girl #3 used to stand straight on her chair, she was now more sloppy, with her head resting on her hand, her elbow to the table, she was leaning forward on her table too. I somehow feel more filrty, a bit like with P75. My radar is working overtime, but there are not much ladies around at this time of day. There are many senior citizens though. I might try it on an evening eventually. Students gather there after their courses to do homework and such, and seniors are often at home at that time. I think this MX has moderate mood booster quality too. I felt somewhat jolly being there. Girl #1, who was like 12 feet away at that time, with her back facing me, eventually turned around and gave me a long glance. Sheā€™s not the hottie, but she looks nice, 6/10, chestnut hair with eyeglasses. A bit nerdy, but not too much. I gave her a smile, she was a bit hypnotized, not DIHL, but Iā€™d say a bit dreamy. I must mention she had been at 6 feet before, though. Girl #1 was wearing some kind of castawaysā€™s pant, like stopping at mid-ankle. A bit sloppy, but I donā€™t mind. The blonde hottie (#3) probably went to the rest room. She had been in my cloud without seeing me for quite a while now (30 min +). She came back and made her way around her table to return to her chair. That manoeuver took her a while though, no apparent reason, but maybe, seeing whatā€™s up. Once she sat down, she balanced her chair on two of its legs, up and then down again, two times in a row. She then stopped wiggling her chair but was wiggling her upper body right and left, slowly, but certainlyā€¦ She was sitting straight, but leaning a bit toward her table and kinda sticking her butt out a bit on her chair now. A man of 63 (old man #1) came sit on the couch next to mine (one of those days, I guess). This kind of pissed me off. This is second time I seem to attract seniors like a honeypot in the day. Girl #3 left a minute later. Sad. A 6/10 readhead (girl #6), 20 y.o. at the most sat down at a far table. She has a very nice voice, and can easily pick up her convos even if she was far. Oh geez, the old man #1 started making a loud ā€œgrumble grumbleā€ sound, non stop while reading his book, as if mumbling to himself or reading partially aloud, this was driving me nuts! Then he started humming songs that played on the P.A. speaker and he started clicking away at his inkpen in/out, in/out, DARNNNNN! I will go apesh t! It turned out the old man #1 was looking for attention, I guess. He suddenly put his book down. And stroke conversation with me: ā€œMy reading is done for the day. Har, itā€™s important to read to keep good eyesight at my age. Har, I am retired you know. Har, I finished college in 1972. Har, this city has boomed in the last 30 years, hasnā€™t it? blablablabla.ā€ He then produced a pile of napkins from his coat pocket and gave me one to use as a coaster (waddafaf!). He gave one to the guy on the other side too. He went: ā€œI prefer giving them away than throwing them away.ā€ Is this geriatric attention potion? I just hope heā€™s not a regular. His finishing move, before he left, was a wahey weird question: ā€œErr.. so youā€™re in college, right???ā€. Iā€™m like: ā€œErr no, I take this as a compliment though.ā€ He goes on: ā€œOr university???ā€. Iā€™m like ā€œNo.ā€ and I had quite a laugh. Maybe the product gives a youth vibe, hard to say. In a way, he kinda made my day with this one. During that time, another man (old man #2) had sat where girl #3 was before. Of course, right between me and the cute redhead twenty feet away. That man was over 70 for sure. Old man #2 put his newspaper open on the back of a chair, as if to let it dry or something, it was hiding further that redhead from me. He starting chatting his heart out to the young waitress. He told her all about his evening at the hockey with his nephew, the driving-style of the aforementionned, the price of the beer at the arena, how he has almost raised his nephew when he was a kid, blablabla." The young waitress was smily, courteous and patient. Kudos to her for that. I believe what she had coming was a bit my fault though, the old man was sitting where blonde #3 was before, quite close to my cloud. Old man #2 left and removed his newspaper. One thing sure, an internet cafe is way better than Wal-nots-mart to test mones. For as little as the price of one coffee a day šŸ˜‰ (lol). It offers a bit less mobility than a store, though. Itā€™s not a club. I donā€™t want to look weird hopping from a place to the other. I intend to become a regular, so I have to act with a bit of stealth. Last thing I would want there, is some student girl complaining to the manager that sheā€™s getting unwanted attention. A very sad christmas song came up, an ultra-slow painful version of ā€œWhat are you doing new yearā€™s dayā€, the kind of thing to make one wanna split his veins by the time boxing day arrives. It affected my mood a bit more than it usually would have. Strange. I was feeling much better five minutes after. But man, I just hate depressing christmas music! I much prefer new yearā€™s upbeat folkloric fiddle and accordeon songs we have around here. I looked at a lot of girls that day, but I felt no horniness on my side. Just pure appreciation. Back at home, my girlfriend did not give any bad comments about the scent. No comments at all about any scent. I was a bit surprised, I smell it so strong on myself. It could potentially hinder my self-confidence to approach ladies wearing this. I feel I smell as strong as like 3 to 4 Ammo sprays, but with a different fragrance. Maybe itā€™s my brain playing tricks on me. We had a visitor, sheā€™s a professional I have consulted before with one of my sons (reference, journal post #168). This time, she came to visit us at home. The conversation was normal, nothing to mention, however, at a certain point, she explained something to us and she felt she needed to demonstrate. She got up, she walked around the table, positioned herself between me and my girlfriend, and she said: ā€œMay I?ā€. Iā€™m like ā€œErr, yes?..ā€. She grabbed my hand from behind and she hit my chest lightly three times with my own hand while imitating a kidā€™s voice. Itā€™s hard to explain, and I donā€™t want to get into much details here, but believe me, it was related to her work and to her reason to visit. It was strange and a bit unnecesssary. But hey, I donā€™t mind. She could have done it on herself and we would have understood (lol). Sheā€™s not my type. But I would never have expected any form of kino from that women when I woke up that morning. My kids were very very affectionate with me in the evening. Lot sof hugs. Nothing else special to mention. My girlfriend was no different than she usually is. So no effects there, It was a weird overall experience this time around. Iā€™ll sure retry, though. As of now, this seems like a kick-ass thing to wear around older folks. A flirting vibe and other things were picked up, but Iā€™ll have to experiment further. It seems like a nice social for inducing conversations, for sure, at least with seniorsā€¦ I would have prefered social contacts from girls though, lol. Iā€™ll work this out, lol. **Strength:** Attracting attention for older folks 7/10 (to be confirmed), chatiness from older folks 8/10 (to be confirmed), mild flirting vibe 4/10 (to be confirmed), mood boosting 3/10 (to be confirmed), reactions from ladies (wiggling and such) 3/10 (to be confirmed), kids affection 7/10 (to be confirmed), kino 1/10 (to be confirmed), youth vibe 1/10 (to be confirmed). **Length of Effects:** I was in the cafe for like 5 hours and effects were well spread out over that period, The kino visitor we got at home arrived 8 hours after application. Kids were way more affectionate than usual 9 hours+ after application. **Effectiveness & Consistency:** This was my first use of the product, It does not look like a dud, but I am still quite unsure about what it is. I will have to test again. **Diffusion/Sillage:** Sillage up to 10 feet in certain cases. It seems better under 6 feet though. If it had a texture, what would it feel like? Lazy boy fabric If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like? Social Tea biscuits What celebrity or public figure is it most like? The little old singing lady in the movie Wedding Singer If it were music, what would it sound like? : Shut Up! by Dirty Rotten Imbeciles [youtube.com/watch?v=g4OT0mcbDaY](http://youtube.com/watch?v=g4OT0mcbDaY) ==================== **December 14, 2015, 12:55** **PRODUCTS:** MX487 (Embargoed, batch #1B030068) X 3 sprays around neck (8h00 AM) **Location:** Internet cafe, child daycare, home **First Impressions:** On my first use of this product, I had used 2 sprays. This time I tried 3 sprays. The sprays were applied on clean skin after a morning shower with a SLS-free bodywash. At 3 sprays, the smell was even stronger than last time. A present and persistent fragrance that is. **Usage & Application Points:** I applied 3 sprays to the sides and the front of neck. I used no cologne or cover scent this time around. **Most Appropriate Environment:** Due to the total ghosting I experienced on this try, I canā€™t comment further on this. **Types of Effects observed this time:** Basically OD symptoms: Ghosting and light nausea. I have experienced total social ghosting this time. I mean total. I went to the child daycare and I was barely noticed by the ladies there. I went to the same internet cafe again and apart from the cashier whom I bought my tea from, nobody even seemed to really notice my presence. I got no looks. No chat. Either from young or seniors. It was nothing like the first day. I sincerely believe three sprays of this MX is too much for me and that itā€™s over my OD treshold. I caught a few acciddental glances from a few ladies who passed in front of me, but no follow-up or reactions. I had a cute girl, say 21, 7/10,with long fake red hair next to me, I hardly got any reaction. Another slim brunette was sitting a bit farther, she passed in front of me at least twice and nothing was observed. I even attempted talking to the fake red girl to no avail when she arrived, I barely got a shrug back, no smile, nothing. I believe it was genuine ghosting. I usually make ladies smile. It was pretty much a wasted day, but hatā€™s part of the game. There was very jazzy christmas music, free-jazz like, that was like having an insect buzzing in my ear for four hours. Horrible day šŸ™‚. A waitress came by to see if I was done with my cup, I told her I wasnā€™t done, and she did not look at me, nor smile, nor speak or nothing, she just shrugged and turned back. Total Casper effect here. I doubt I will ever try 3 sprays again. I might retry two sprays with cologne next time, since AD encourages trying embargoed MXs with cologne also to compare diffusion. However, I donā€™t know which cologne Iā€™ll use, I fear a fragrance excess with two sprays MX. Iā€™ll get back to this products quite soon. Maybe Iā€™ll try one spray eventually too, to se if I get effects as good with it, it would mean less fragrance which would be good thing. I honestly felt sick to my stomach by 1 PM, probably because of the fragrance; this is strong and at 3 sprays, I find it diffuclt to wear especially over a period of time. I did not get this sickening effect at 2 sprays, altough it was strong, still, and not my favroite fragrance, but not sickening as such. Three sprays of that is just too much for me. I went back home. Even when I went to through the cafe to exit, I saw no one looking at me. Maybe a buildup from the day before made me OD, but I believe my shower was quite completeā€¦ At the end of the evening, my girlfriend picked up the scent. She couldnā€™t identify it, but she said I smelled very good. I found it too strong but it is apparently ok with her, soā€¦ No other effects than smell appreciation from my girlfriend were observed at home, though. As usual. Sorry if this report is unusually short and undetailed by my standards, but I just donā€™t have much to report. **Strength:** Ghosting 8/10 (probably due to OD, to be confirmed), nausea 2/10 (probably due to OD, to be confirmed). All others effects observed last time cannot be confirmed, nor discarded. **Length of Effects:** I was in the cafe for like 5 hours after application and I got nothing more than ghosting, so itā€™s hard to assess. I got no ghosting at home (6 hours+), but nothing special happened there either. **Effectiveness & Consistency:** This was my second use of the product, Sadly, I did not get any of the effects I observed last time, only ghosting and light nausea. Are these symptoms caused by OD or not? I will have to see about that. **Diffusion/Sillage:** Up to 10 feet of bad social mojo at this dosage, Iā€™d say. Because of the bad overall experience (possible OD), I wonā€™t comment the texture, food item, celebrity or music questions this time. ---
**Author:** ![Androtics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Androtics](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androtics)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/34 "2016-05-18T05:52:42Z")
**Note:** _This is part of the compilation of reports submitted by a Male, RU in his 30ā€™s via email._ ==================== **December 18, 2015, 18:52** **PRODUCTS:** MX491 (Embargoed, batch #1B030068) X 2 sprays to each side of neck (8h00 AM) **Location:** Home, child daycare, internet cafe **First Impressions:** This was my first use of this product. I applied the product in the morning after a shower using a LSL-free natural bodywash. The fragrance is strong, but much more subtle than it was with another MX bearing similar fragrance (ref: MX487, posts #221 and #222). I can go around with this one. To me, it smells a bit more ā€œWorldā€-like. The scent was discreet enough to be wearable for a whole day. No other immediate physiological effects were observed. **Usage & Application Points:** The dosage is unknown since itā€™s a MX. I applied 2 sprays, 1 on each side of the neck. I used no cologne or cover scent this time around. **Most Appropriate Environment:** It seems appropriate in social places. It does not look like a sexual. I will have to test it further. **Types of Effects observed this time:** Lovey-dovey feeling (self), be perceived as strong (from self unto others), mild flirting vibe of a smooth nature (self), mood boosting, after-sex-like calmness (self), passive IOIs from ladies, passive disinhibition from ladies **Note:** I took some liberties on chronology to regroup some events concerning same persons and improve readability. At home, my girlfriend picked up the smell almost instantly. I had put on the MX like 5 minutes before I came across her, at the most. She sniffed my neck rabidly to try and identify the smell. She smelled my neck with such avidity that she complained she actually had some fragrance on her lips and that she could taste it her mouth. She described the smell as ā€˜not floralā€™, ā€˜not spicyā€™ but 'very, very manly". She said if she had to give a name to it, sheā€™d call it ā€œLouis Cyrā€, heā€™s nothing short of a national hero around here, try and Wikipedia him up to get the whole idea. She spontaneoulsy came up herself with the idea of putting a personā€™s name on it, which kind of made me laugh because AD asks us to do this also. So I guess Iā€™ll go with my girl, this being the most unbiased and spontaneous answer I can come up with. When I asked if it was overbearing, she said no, but she said this product screams: ā€œIā€™m a stroooong man!ā€. She apparently found it pleasing on me. As I said before, I think the fragrance is less heavy on this than it was for MX487, even though the label indicates the same fragrance. At the child daycare, when I went up the stairs with my sons, the teacher of my youngest son was also climbing the stairway and even tough her group of kids was alone in the room upstairs during that time, she took the time to climb the stairs at our rythm even though we were not blocking the way. I think she saw this as an opportunity to get a whiff of my cloud. It was an opportunity for me to see her butt when she arrived on the upper level. Nice, like all the rest. I went to that internet cafe again. It was a dead quiet day there. I guess students are almost done with their semester. I was sitting on one of those couches. A very hot girl, 21, dark blonde, with a nice body, 8/10 (girl #1) asked an old man who was sitting at one of the large table if she could get the table to work with some girls she was waiting after. She was perpendicular from me, but sitting sideways, looking sideways also. I believe it was our friend Scenthound who once described ladies as being Jedi masters at looking at a man sideways unnoticed, and this is so true. I could see she was in peripheral-periscope mode, pure stealth, but visible to a trained eye. I did not want her to feel uneased so I gave her a few looks with a light smile so that she gets a happy vibe. She would not give me a direct look, though. She was wearing one of those low-waist pants and she eventually adjusted it, showing quite a bit of skin in the process, she pulled it slightly down before pulling it up again after. Pure tease material. She resumed her work. Maybe twenty minutes later, she was no longer properly sitting at her table, she was still working, though. Her upper body was somehow turned toward me, boobs sticking out and her back was resting against the wall, she was sitting on a high bench and her elbow was resting on the table. A sloppy position, lol. I got no direct looks, ever. I globally felt smooth and lovey-dovey all over. It was like an after-sex-like calmness. A christmas song came up with a celestial womanā€™s voice, celtic-style, and it put me in pseudoreligious womenā€™s appreciation mood. A nice brown long haired girl (girl #2), 21, turned around like 2 times to give me glance, sheā€™s a 9/10+. She was like 10 feet away. The glances were ok, but a bit neutral. She left shortly after, however. A girl, 20, nerdy style with eyeglasses (girl #3) arrived. She was wearing dark green jeans (they still make those?) and she came up with her lunch and sat down on the couch right in front of mine to eat and study her books. After 5 minutes, she untied her hair. I donā€™t know if a well-advised girl would have done that, because the hair were in a mess. It contrasted well with her initial goodgirl vibe. She switched from a well-raised little girl pose to spreading off in a more laid back way on her couch. Before, her knees were tucked hard on against the other, with her back at 90 degrees. Now her legs were slightly apart and she layed her shoulders on the back of the comfy couch. There was a change in attitude in her, for sure. Mone-related, who knows? She was very much inside her work though. Eventually, she hair flipped a few times. The she let her hair hide a large part of her face. She looked like a teen ghost in those japaneses spook movies. The music was not of christmas anymore but very mellow guitar-and-voice stuff. I felt very relaxed. Girl #3 tunred out to be another worker bee with headphones, sad. Eventually she started wielding her cell phone and she put her work a bit on the side. She fooled around with her wristwatch, but she was staring at her phone all the way. I thought younger folks didnā€™t wear watches anymore. She then took off her glasses šŸ˜ƒ! She would do those yawn-like stretchings without actually yawning. Even though I love girls with glasses, she was a knock-out even more without them. She reminded me of those teen movies that all have the same plot: an ugly nerd who is harrassed / ignored by everyone turns into a hottie about half into the movie and gets her revenge. You know, at some time, a musical break comes on where they basically take off her glasses, change her hairdo, dress her up, and apply some make-upā€¦ and after that, the ugly duckling now puts everybody in awe, including the jock who would not even look at her in the beginning. At one point, I just couldnā€™t stop looking šŸ™‚. She was sitting diagonally in the XZ plane of the couch, with her butt kind of sticking on the side. She eventually put her glasses back on, I guess the poor girl needed them to be able to read (lol), but I clearly felt she was like: ā€œHey look at me, I can be cute you knowā€. I was like: ā€œIā€™m looking, how about you?ā€. Sex thoughts started flowing in my head. I was quite horny to be honest. She was stroking her lips with her fingers. She had still her headphones and she was very much in her work all the time. She eventually sat with legs crossed, her foot pointing at me. I guess the girl is awfully shy or sheā€™s just picking up a smell thatā€™s driving her crazy and she does not understand where itā€™s coming from. The IOIs are there, but her book or phone get all the looks. She took off her glasses for a second time. Look at me girl, damn it. She was subtly caressing her neck with her hand. I saw her finally lift her head from the corner of my eye, I looked up, she was back in her book already, damn. Sheā€™s not an easy one šŸ™‚. Two grandparents arrived with a liitle kid, the kid kind of went in front of her and that drew her attention, she smiled at the kid and returned to her book. The kid went to sit with his parents and after that, she made an upper body 90 degrees rotation, a strech exercises that makes the boobs seriously stick out. Even though she was small breasted, she held that glorious position for twenty seconds of pure enjoyment, but still her eyes were in her book. I eventually looked up at the same time as her, but she was looking on the far side of the room, not mineā€¦ back in the book. Damn. She left and I didnā€™t even get a goodbye glance. She got fed up by the kid who was raising hell near her couch so she left in quite a hurry. The waitress came by to pick up empty cups, she was more upbeat this time around (ref: post #222). She did not talk, but she smiled. Sheā€™s a small blonde 6/10. An annoying couple in their 50s came sit on the table next to my couch with boring conversations and all. I did not get irritated, but they were still bugging me. Two hotties came to sit two couches left of me, a 10/10 (girl #4 ) and a 8/10 (girl #5). I pulled my collar a few times to diffuse. The 10/10 passed in front of me to go get coffee, she has one of the nicest butts I have ever seen in my whole life and was wearing some slinky pants. The two hotties were in a jolly mood and they were texting each other overtime (yes, sitting one next to each other). In my days, one could eavesdrop on conversations. I canā€™t read their fricking screens for Chryslerā€™s sake. At one point, the tallest of the two, the 10/10, got up, talked to the other girl and she did a full body stretch skywards, she looked so much taller now with her arms pointing straight up at the ceiling. Her butt kinda sticked out in her pants, her legs where like a foot apart. Her small breasts were furiously pointing forward and up. A moment of pure bliss. She looked like some sort of female sorcerer about to cast a powerful spell. Whatever spell that was, it worked on me. Again, everything was passive, though. Almost all IOIā€™s if confirmed, were without direct looks on that day. A 22 y.o. redhead, 7/10 (girl #6) slipped by andā€¦ went to sit on a couch on the other side behind a small wall. No look (damn). The annoying couple eventually left and that revealed a blonde cutie I had not noticed yet (girl #7), she was sitting at a 120 angle on one of the table, at a higher floor grade than where I was sitting. Another worker bee šŸ™‚. She had the longest eyelashes, but no way to catch her attention. Results were modest for this first try, but Iā€™ll explain again that stealth mode is important for me in this place. Iā€™ll go for pure passive observation mode until I lock down solid IOIs. Iā€™ll retry this product in other settings, I got nothing negative from it. The common denominator between girls #1, #3 and #4 were butts and boobs sticking out at some point. Girls #1, #3 and #4 both made extensive enjoyable body stretching. Girls #1 and #3 both went from formal to sloppy body positions. Not, whatā€™s coincidential and whatā€™s not? I donā€™t know. Iā€™m only at the observation stage, here. Girl #2 was the only one to actually look at me, but it was ā€˜normalā€™ at best, stil she turned aroudn two times, one of the times, I caught her looking. Nothing special was observed at home. **Strength:** Lovey-dovey feeling 6/10 (to be confirmed), be perceived as strong 2/10 (to be confirmed), mild flirting vibe of a smooth nature 4/10 (to be confirmed), mood boosting 2/10 (to be confirmed), after-sex-like calmness 7/10 (to be confirmed), passive IOIs from girls 3/10 (to be confirmed), passive disinhibition from girls 3/10 (to be confirmed). **Length of Effects:** I was in the cafe for like 5 hours and effects were well spread out over that period. As already mentionned, they were very passive effects, though, so they might be coincidential at this point, except for the self-effects. **Effectiveness & Consistency:** This was my first use of the product, It does not look like a dud, but Iā€™m far from having figured it out. I will have to test again. I donā€™t think I experienced ghosting. But Iā€™ll probably try this one spray at some point. And three sprays (lol). **Diffusion/Sillage:** Diffusion up to 10 feet in certain cases (passive effects on ladies) which would be crazy if eventually confirmed. If it had a texture, what would it feel like? Cotton If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like? Soft caramel What celebrity or public figure is it most like? I have to go with Louis Cyr If it were music, what would it sound like? : Lou Reedā€™s Perfect Day ā€¦ [youtube.com/watch?v=QYEC4TZsy-Y](http://youtube.com/watch?v=QYEC4TZsy-Y) ---
**Author:** ![Androtics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Androtics](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androtics)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/35 "2016-05-18T06:21:14Z")
**Note:** _This is part of the compilation of reports submitted by a Male, RU in his 30ā€™s via email._ ====================== **March 15, 2016, 16:34** **PRODUCTS:** MX490 (Embargoed, batch #1B030068) X 3 sprays to each side of neck (8h00 AM) **Location:** Home, Child Daycare, Internet Cafe **First Impressions:** This was my second use of this product. I applied the product in the morning after a shower using a LSL-free natural bodywash. The fragrance is strong, but much more subtle than it was with another MX bearing similar fragrance (ref: MX487, posts#221 and #222). I can go around with this one. To me, it smells a bit more ā€œWorldā€-like. The scent was discreet enough to be wearable for a whole day. I did not observe relaxation in the adamā€™s apple area nor the tingling sensation on the tip of the tongue this time around. No other immediate physiological effects were observed. **Usage & Application Points:** The dosage is unknown since itā€™s a MX. I applied 3 sprays, One spray on each side of the neck and one on the adamā€™s apple. I used no cologne or cover scent. **Most Appropriate Environment:** It seems appropriate in social places, however caution is required because irritiability is an hypothesis for now. I will have to test it further. **Types of Effects observed this time:** Passive IOIs from ladies, passive disinhibition from the ladies or peacock effect in ladies, flirty attitude (self unto ladies), social irritability (self), no respect for annoying people (self) **Note:** I took some liberties on chronology to regroup some events concerning same persons and improve readability. I went to get my sons to the child daycare. My younger sonā€™s teacher, the hot brunette, kneeled in front of me (again) to show her Avengers T-Shirt to my son. She locally strecthed the fabric near the middle of the T-shirt to outline Hulk (for my son) and her left boob (for me). Iā€™ll never see Hulk again in the same way. A redhead mom, maybe 30, 6/10, came in the locker room while I was placing my sonā€™s items on the shelf. I said ā€˜ā€˜Hiā€™ā€™ and she acted shy but gave me a large all-teeth smile and blushed a little. She stayed in my cloud a few minutes while she was removing her kidā€™s winter clothes. I then crashed to the internet cafe. A lady (lady #1) sat like 10 feet from me on my left side and then she moved to like 6 feet. She was maybe 33, 5/10, with a little kid. She eventually left. Two women (lady #2 and #3) were talking sitting at a table on my right side. One was throwing glances sideways and looking my way, but neither were my type. They were in their 40s, Iā€™d say. Lady #2 moved to the other side of table in front of Lady #3, it might have been to see me better. She was no longer sitting inline with me and lady #3, she was now to my east-north-east. Lady #3 was no longer obscured by lady #2 and she adjusted her shirt up, It showed a bit of skin, then she readjusted back correctly. Lady #2 was more chubby, with a Franceā€™s-french accent and aubunrn hair. Lady #3 preened her hair several times even though they were in a ponytail. Lady #3 was looking sideways in my direction more often. But I am not interested in her. A mom (lady #4) with three kids came sit on my left, where lady #1 was before. Her oldest daughter was sitting quite close to me, maybe two feet, she probably was 14 (lady #5). The teen was drinking a frozen smoothie with one of those giant straws. She was acting very shy, turning her head the other way. But she was talking a lot, nervously, and nonstop. She was at the age where the voice shifts tone up and down without notice and it sounded musical, but very weird. Like oAoAoAoA. She was moving her straw up and down with a lot of energy and she was definitely not holding it like a straw should be held by a lady. She was basically jerking the plastic thing off. And not with the tip of her fingers, but with the fist, hammer-style. When she was all done finishing her drink, she started shaking the whole plastic cup up and down in spasmatic ways. Am I responsible for this? Itā€™s hard to say, but itā€™s a possibility. I didnā€™t look sideways at her so as not to look weird, but there was a large cabinet with candle holders right in front of those couches and they are equipped with mirror doors on the side, so I could observe the girlā€™s play in stealth mode. She was much too young, of course, but very cute, a blonde with long braids. Even though lady #5ā€™s cup eventually got empty, the girly kept slurping noisily on her straw without goal. I normally would be pissed off by something like that, but I was wasnā€™t. When she was not busy on her cup or her straw, she was hitting her thigh while talking. A nice looking somewhat chubby redhead, 20, 5/10 (lady #6) came sit on the couch in front of mine. She was wearing one of those winter hats, but thanks god she took it off and I could behold her fiery genuine red hair. That always tickle my fancy. She had a nice face. She was pretty much hypnotized by her cell phone, Ahhhhā€¦ kids nowadays! She left after 10 minutes when her friend arrived. Two girls eventually came sit beside me, they were in their late twenties. A 9/10 tall brunette dressed with class (lady #7) and a 3/10 granola-looking brunette (lady #8) with curly hair wearing redwine colored jogging pants: uh, thereā€™s a demand for those?? Lady #8 sat on the couch like 6 feet from me sideways and lady#7 sat on a footrest type of round bench (I just donā€™t know the english word for that, sorry). Lady #7 was facing me a bit diagonally. Lady #8complimented lady #7 on her hairdo, I took the oppoturnity to have a direct look a lady #7. She noticed, I kinda nodded in approval with my head while looking at her and she gave a light smile. Both girls laughed heartily when girl #8 noticed I was nodding, They started talking business among themselves after that. Lady #7 was wearing a sweatshirt. She started talking to the lady #8 about her ex being a jerk and all. She eventually took off her sweater, she was wearing a nice classy but slinky blouse. Not sure why she had to remove her sweater, it was relatively cold in there in the first place. I guess it was the peacock look-at-me effect. She crossed a leg atop the other and her butt cheek was pointing on my side. They started talking about their experiences and laughing like schoolgirls. Lady #7 then uncrossed her legs and bent forward to have her butt sticking out behind and she pushed her breast forward. It looked glorious. I thought all this time she was talking about her ex, but it turns out she was talking about her actual boyfriend. Lady #7 was playing with her hair a lot. I looked many times in her direction but got no further looks though. Then their conversation switched to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), but natural pheromones. I had a hard time not laughing my ass off. Lady #7had that theory as to why her boyfriend was sometimes a jerk and sometimes nice to her, she was sure it depends on her natural pheromones cycle. To myself, I was like: ā€˜ā€˜Natural mones, sheeshā€¦ and WHY IN HELL do you think youā€™re sticking your boobs and butt out on your seat RIGHT NOW while your boyfriend is not around?ā€™ā€™ LMAO. I think it was the first time that I heard everyday people talking about mones since I started using mones. Lady #7 did put back her sweater and they both left once they finished their coffee. There were some entertaining moments, especially with lady #7 and the teeny girl (lady #5). The place ended up dead, so I did head for the Mart. An event Iā€™d describe as utter madness happened. I pull aside my cart in front of the Jell-O powder rack because I care to never block the aisles. I was about to text my girlfriend a question. And Iā€™m not fast at texting, Iā€™m more old-school. During that time, not one, not two but THREE women were buzzing around looking through my cart at the Jell-O rack. None of them were in my age target nor taste. The absurdity of the situation angered the shit out of me and I moved my cart further down to text in peace. Itā€™s only much later I realized ā€˜ā€˜What the fricking frock has happened?!ā€™ā€™. I may ? repeat - may have attracted three ugly older ladies to the the JellO rack, it was so weird. After that, I got very irritable in the Mart with zombie-persons blocking the aisles with their carts and lowly selves, stalling in the middle of nowhere, slowing evaluating a cereal box label, etc. I got so angry, that at some point I was talking aloud, mumbling, but still: ā€˜ā€˜Ho, here comes that hag again!ā€™ā€™, ā€˜ā€˜Canā€™t stand this woman!ā€™ā€™, ā€˜ā€˜Your mama dropped you on a concrete floor sixty years ago or what?ā€™ā€™ and such. So I clearly had a dishinibition / agressive vibe towards undesirable persons getting in my way. I felt flirty otherwise towards cute women, though. I did not get hits or good IOIs at the Mart. I asked an older clerk in the vegetable aisle wether they had leeks and she didnā€™t seem to know what a leek looks like. She looks at me with empty eyesā€¦ of the leek, at least, she had the IQ!!! I donā€™t account that as DIHL, just total stupidity. I was really about to rip somebodyā€™s head off. so I went to the cashier and left. I donā€™t think I ghosted at 3 sprays but this product is not a powerful natural magnet (except for the three seniors in the JellO section, ahem). What I got were mostly passive, but interesting, Iā€™ll have to retry in other less passive settings. Some aspects of this product are promising but things are still a bit inconclusive for now. **Strength:** Spreading the love around 0/10 (none observed this time) (to be confirmed), people misinterpreting the source of the signal 0/10 (none observed this time) (to be confirmed), passive IOIs from ladies 3/10 (to be confirmed), passive disinhibition from the ladies or peacock effect in ladies 2/10 (to be confirmed), handsome guy vibe 0/10 (self unto others) (none observed this time) (to be confirmed), flirty attitude (self unto ladies) 4/10 (to be confirmed), social irritability 5/10 (to be confirmed), no respect for annoying people (self) 6/10 (to be confirmed), throat area relaxation 0/10 (none observed this time) (to be confirmed), tip of the tongue tingling 0/10 (none observed this time) (to be confirmed). **Length of Effects:** I was in the cafe for like 4 hours and the effects were well spread out over that period. Most effects were very passive. All effects noted might be coincidential at this point. I spent thirty minutes at the Mart and by that time, apart from the flirty feeling, mostly negative self-effects and potential older women unwanted attraction were observed. **Effectiveness & Consistency:** This was my second use of the product, There is some potentcy in there, but Iā€™m far from having figured it out. I will have to test again. Iā€™ll probably try this at one spray at some point. Iā€™ll try enhancing diffusion with cologne too. **Diffusion/Sillage:** The diffusion has been observed between 2 to 6 feet. Passive IOIs seem to develop with the length of the cloud exposition. Sillage is hard to assess because I was not very mobile at the cafe. Things went differently at the Mart, the JellO attack occured while I was standing still, so hard to assess a sillage again. ---
**Author:** ![Androtics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Androtics](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androtics)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/36 "2016-05-18T06:27:26Z")
**Note:** This is part of the compilation of reports submitted by a Male, RU in his 30ā€™s via email. ==================== **March 30, 2016, 17:10** **PRODUCTS:** MX489 (Embargoed, batch #1B030068) X 3 sprays around the neck (7h45 AM) **Location:** Child daycare, Internet Cafe **First Impressions:** This was my first use of this product. I applied the product solo in the morning after a shower using a LSL-free natural bodywash. The scent comes out as a bit floral with this one and is on the stronger side. I got the following side-effects: a top of the inner nose freezing effect. a breathing rate increase and light-headness. More details will be given below about those. No other immediate physiological effects were observed. **Usage & Application Points:** The dosage is unknown since itā€™s a MX. I applied 3 sprays, 1 on each side of the neck and 1 to the adamā€™s apple. I used no cologne or cover scent. **Most Appropriate Environment:** It should be used with caution in social places because of the strength of the fragrance. It should not be worn in scent-sensitive environments, like at work. Itā€™s too early to say more about it. **Types of Effects observed this time:** Magnetic effect on ladies, quiet flirty effect (self), other people misinterpreting the source of the signal, feelgood carelessness. **Note:** I took some liberties on chronology to regroup some events concerning same persons to improve readability. This was my first time using this product. As it was said before, the scent is quite present, Maybe I should have started with 2 sprays instead of 3 sprays. The top of inner nose freezing effect lasted about an hour but it is light and not incapacitating. The breathing rate increase was present during the first hour, roughly 10% increase. I got a very subtle light-headedness, but the feeling is interesting, it gives a hint of carelessness and worry-free feeling. I am not sure I would operate heavy machinery with that one, just as a precaution. Nothing special was observed at the child daycare. At the internet cafe, a girl (lady #1), maybe 21 with blonde hair in a ponytail was sitting at a table like 8 feet from me. She eventually moved to a couch 4 feet from me without any apparent reasons. She left shortly after. A girl (lady #2) and a guy sat on the couch right next to mine. The girl was 22, brunette, with a very nice body. She was the giggly type and loud. At first, she sat at the end of their couch that was far from me. She then switched place with her boyfriend and she was on the half-couch closest to me. She did not switch by getting up and moving to the other end. She kind of sat on her boyfriend to cross on his side. Was it my cloud that drew her closer? Did she think the cloud was emanating from her boyfriend and not from me? Itā€™s bloody well possible. This could indicate a possible misinterpretation of the source of the signal. Two other girls were working at one of the work tables with a guy. A third girl, a genuine redhead fire came in last. She sat at the tip of the table with her back at me. She was wearing earplugs and working like a bee. I felt flirty and appreciative of women, but in a very very passive and discreet way. I did not catch any ladies eyes. Two young ladies (lady #1 and #2) moved in closer from me without any intervention on my part. After this first try, that MX comes out as pretty inconclusive. Iā€™ll have to try it again for sure. Iā€™ll do 2 sprays next time instead of 3 sprays. Maybe I can get a few work hypotheses out of this day, but they are longshots, basically. **Strength:** Magnetic effect on ladies 3/10 (to be confirmed), quiet flirty effect 3/10 (self) (to be confirmed), other people misinterpreting the source of the signal 2/10 (to be confirmed), feelgood carelessness 5/10 (self). **Length of Effects:** Lady #1ā€™s behavior happened 1 hour into the test and lady #2ā€™s behavior happened 3 hours into the test. I noticed nothing for the rest of the day. **The side effects:** the freezing effect and the breathing rate increase were short-lived (1 hour at most). The feeling of carelessness lasted for 4 hours at least. The scent lasted up until the evening. **Effectiveness & Consistency:** This was my first use of the product. I canā€™t draw any conclusions regarding effectiveness and consistency yet. **Diffusion/Sillage:** The smell is very strong, I suspect that the diffusion with this one is important. Lady #1 who switched seats was at 8 feet before she moved closer at 4 feet. Lady#2 started out at 4 feet from me and sat on her boyfriend ending up 2 feet from me. The importance or pertinence of the sillage is hard to assess in an objective way because I was not mobile. This test was too inconclusive, I prefer not to comment on the texture, food item, celebrity and music questions for now. ---
**Author:** ![Androtics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Androtics](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androtics)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/37 "2016-05-18T06:46:14Z")
**Note:** This is part of the compilation of reports submitted by a Male, RU in his 30ā€™s via email. ==================== **April 4, 2016, 07:38** **PRODUCTS:** MX489 (Embargoed, batch #1B030068) X 2 sprays on each side of neck (8h00 AM) **Location:** Child daycare, Internet Cafe, Driver Licensesā€™ Office **First Impressions:** This was my second use of this product. I applied the product solo in the morning after a shower using a LSL-free natural bodywash. The scent comes out as a bit floral with this one and is on the stronger side. I got a top of the inner nose freezing effect. I observed no breathing rate increase and no feelgood light-headness this time around. No other immediate physiological effects were observed. **Usage & Application Points:** The dosage is unknown since itā€™s a MX. I applied 2 sprays, 1 on each side of the neck. I used no cologne or cover scent. **Most Appropriate Environment:** It should be used with caution in social places because of the strength of the fragrance. It should not be worn in scent-sensitive environments, like at work. Itā€™s too early to say more about it. **Types of Effects observed this time:** Quiet flirty effect (self), irritability dampening effect (self), magnet for older folks **Note:** I took some liberties on chronology to regroup some events concerning same persons to improve readability. At the child daycare, nothing was observed. At the internet cafe, it was quiet. I was sitting on a couch, and a drunkard in his 60s came sit next to me (why oh why!), I eventually recongnized him as the annoying guy from post #221. He talked alone again. He commented and laughed at the same newspaper article constantly for like twenty minutes, he was repeating:ā€˜ā€˜That guy is a maniac! Heā€™s so sick!ā€™ā€™ with bursts of George-McFly-like forced laughter in between takes. I couldnā€™t help but laugh on the inside at that fricking lunatic sitting right next to me. Two nice female students were sitting at a work table above on my right. One of them tossed her hair around. At that precise moment, the drunkard let out a loud convincing belch. Both ladies turned around. I looked at them with assurance and pointed the geezer with my head. That wreck ruined my experience all the way. He went on reading his newspaper, laughing again at the ā€˜ā€˜maniacā€™ā€™ guy in the news in an endless loop while shaking a handful of coins in his pockets repeatedly. He then proceeded to read a book breathing very loudly through his nostrils. I was pissed off, but quietly, I donā€™t feel like cracking a skull open, and thatā€™s was like a saintā€™s feat considering the circumstances. So Iā€™ll add an acute irritability dampening effect in the hypotheses list. He then started humming improvised tunes nasal-choir-style. He did put down the book and proceeded to shaking spare change again and laughing again at the news. He finally got up, folded his paper and appeared to look around for someone to digress to. It was definitely not the type of attention I was looking for. Hopefully, I had this damn woodenface on, so he opted to not even try to talk to me this time around. He got up, wobbled like 8 feet and did let out a big fart on his way through the hall. Geez! What an horrid man! I hope to never see that fricking critter again. The rest of my stay was eventless. After five hours into the test, it seemed that the fragrance had died down completely. A stink, probably from the mones, did result. I guess what I was getting is the equivalent of an unscented version. This did not happen on my first try. I would describe the smell as organic, frankly, a bit sewage-like, it made me feel sick. I decided to screw it with further testing for today and head down for a well-needed shower. On my way, however, I went to renew my driverā€™s licence. I got lightning fast service by a 7/10 brunette, 25. No IOIs to mention however. I wasnā€™t so sure of my smell at that point, so the flirty side of me was quiet at bay. I then went home. Before showering, I performed my daily exercise routine, I observed an accelerated heart rate under effort during my daily exercising routine, On the stationary bike, I went up to 105+ bpm then peaked then back down to 60 bpm. I usually peak around 75/80 bpm then go back to 60+ bpm. After the shower there were no traces of the bad smell anymore. The top of inner nose freezing effect lasted about an hour but it is light and not incapacitating. This test day was inconclusive, I still prefer not to comment on the texture, food item, celebrity and music questions after this second try. Iā€™m far from having figured out this product. The hypotheses are very loose and I saw no consistant leads yet. **Strength:** Magnetic effect on ladies 0/10 (none observed this time) (to be confirmed), quiet flirty effect 1/10 (self) (to be confirmed), other people misinterpreting the source of the signal 0/10 (none observed this time) (to be confirmed), feelgood carelessness 0/10 (none observed this time) (self) (to be confirmed), irritability dampening effect 6/10 (self) (to be confirmed), magnet for older folks 2/10 (to be confirmed). **Length of Effects:** The irritability dampening effect, if confirmed, was very active 5hours+ into the test, same for the magnet for older folks effect if confirmed. The nose freezing effect lasted an hour. The scent lasted 6 hours then died down on me. **Effectiveness & Consistency:** This was my second use of the product. I canā€™t draw any conclusions regarding effectiveness and consistency yet. **Diffusion/Sillage:** The smell is very strong, I suspect the diffusion with this one is important. However, nothing during this test made it possible to assess diffusion or sillage in terms of effects. ---
**Author:** ![Androtics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Androtics](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androtics)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/38 "2016-07-21T16:18:45Z")
**Note:** _This is part of the compilation of reports submitted by a Male, RU in his 30ā€™s via email._ ====================== **April 26, 2016, 19:00** _PRODUCTS:MX489 (Embargoed, batch #1B030068) X 2 sprays on each side of neck (8h00 AM)_ Eau des Baux as cover scent (Lā€™Occitane en Provence) around adamā€™s apple (8h00 AM)\* **Location:** Internet Cafe, Child Daycare **First Impressions:** This was my third use of this product. I applied the product solo in the morning after a shower using a LSL-free natural bodywash. I added a cover scent along with it. I will comment on the cover scent aspect below, Without cover, the scent is a bit floral with this one and is on the stronger side. I got a sudden and short-lived increase of pressure in the head No other immediate physiological effects were observed. **Usage & Application Points:** The dosage is unknown since itā€™s a MX. I applied 2 sprays, 1 on each side of the neck. I used a cover scent, the reasons will be explained below. **Most Appropriate Environment:** It should be used with caution in social places because of the strength of the fragrance. It should not be worn in scent-sensitive environments, like at work. Those are still my only comments for now. **Types of Effects observed this time:** Quiet flirty effect (self), Feelgood carelessness (self), Passive IOIs from the ladies, Disinhibition effect or peacock effect in ladies, Heart rate increase more important than usual under effort (self). **Note:** I took some liberties on chronology to regroup some events concerning same persons to improve readability. The scent of that MX is quite present, however it was covered efficiently by the Eau des Baux (EDB). The cover scent does not cover the scent totally, because it is so strong, however EDB is the first thing that comes through my nose with its vanilla tones. I think EDB might be a good cover scent solution for this series. EDB is a potential attention getter for sure. I felt more comfortable this way going around with this product especially because the MX fragrance suddenly left the building without notice on my last try. Even when the MX fragrance is there, itā€™s not that it smells ā€˜ā€˜badā€™ā€™, but itā€™s not my favorite and when I wear it, the smell is quite present on me all day long so I can do with a cover. I got a momentaneous increase of pressure in the head which subsided after like 15 minutes. I got no other immediate physiological effects. I globally felt very smooth. At the child daycare, I came in while three moms were busy talking in the hallway and blocking partially the way. I had to pass directly between them from very close to pass through. I was feeling quite confident with the scent because of the EDB. They stopped talking for ten seconds, lol, I moved to my sonā€™s locker. Then one of the moms came near my sonā€™s locker because her son had broken loose in that area. She made light chat with me and she then returned to her discussion with the others. This was nothing spectacular, but I got some attention. I then climbed upstairs with my sons to see the ā€˜ā€˜teacherā€™ā€™, that hottie brunette one. She was wearing a tank top that made her breasts obvious and more than usually visible. She bent down and took my son in her arms. My son wanted me to give him a kiss, so I moved closer and gave him one. He then asked for a hug, I moved even closer and gave him one. At the time, the lady was inevitably pretty much in the middle of my cloud. She was very smily and chatty this morning. After all this, she dropped on the floor to play with the kids. She was wearing something that resembled a yoga pant and there was a very visible camel toe. Nice. At the internet cafe, there were two young students ladies discussing nutrition science. Of course, I made a point of crashing on the couch right next to them. One of them (lady\*#1) had long loose chestnut hair and was maybe 21. I sat down, I removed my coat and took out my computer. Thatā€™s where I type most of my reports. She picked up the items she had lying on the right side of the couch that I was sitting on. She started playing with her hair two minutes after I arrived. I got up to plug my laptop adapter into the wall outlet, I made sure to move around as much air as I could and I took my time, so that she had all the time she wanted to look at me should she choose to do that. The other lady was sitting in line with us, so it took me a while to see what she looked like. I discreetly manually air-pumped my shirt many times to diffuse around. I was wearing a Lacoste shirt with blue jeans thatā€™s the kind of uniform I wear when I go there to kinda blend in better with the student mass. I look younger than my age so dressing accordingly can definitely help me getting the younger ladiesā€™ attention. Those ladies were working and chatting, but there was a relaxed and laidback vibe about them, they were not the usual worker bees I often see around here. The hair play went on and on. For lady\*#1, the hair play turned into heavy hair tossing. I could see lady\*#1_very well from the corner of my eye, so I was on the lookout for any eventual head turns. Hair tossing became hair dumping (yep, like dirt from a payloader: BOOM! Altough it is much nicer to behold). Plus, she was touching her face a lot. It was like nervous scratching action. Both had very nice voices. Lady_#2_was kinda hiding the side of her face with her hand so her head could rest on it. She was pulling on some hair strands. She turned her head and I finally caught a glimpse, I turned around and she was already back in her book. They studied silently for a few minutes. Lady_#2_had finally stopped hiding her face and she was very cute. Lady_#1_was looking in her book, I turned my head and she hair dumped again. It was hard to get any direct attention. Lady_#2_was a blonde with even longer hair, she was sitting on the couch, kinda resting on her left hip in a sexy way. At one point, they both stretched a leg up and adjusted their boot at the same time, it was weird and inner-lol-generating on my side. Lady_#1_got up, she stretched out her butt and boobs in a simili-yawning way. I had plenty of this kind of manifestations before with other products of this series, but it was the first time with this one after three tries. It is definitely not the most powerful of its cousin mixes, but it doesnā€™t look like a dud either, youā€™ll get it as youā€™ll read on. Both lady_#1_and lady_#2\*left shortly after. A blonde girl (lady\*#3) came to sit on the couch in front of mine. She was talking alone aloud, probably studying. There was a mirror wall on her side, she gazed at herself in it and made a full body stretch sitting down, she put her arms in the air and made her boobs stick out (this is a bit too epidemic to be coincidential). She was a platinum blonde, 26, 7/10, with long loose hair wearing all-black high-end sportswear clothes. She was a bit on the chubby side, but very nice. She was 8 feet in front of me. She kept talking alone and hairplaying. She had school books in front of her, highliners, papers, pens, so Iā€™m quite sure she was not the lunatic self-speaker type. Apart from that, she was very much in her world. She eventually started studying while taking suggestive poses, like a foot on the couch with legs spread out and things like that, more boobs to the sky, she would gaze at herself for long minutes in the mirror. Like to make sure everything was in place. She did intense leg shaking while in akward positions. The IOIs were all very passive, I did not catch a look even if I tried. The girl was seriously arousing me, though. Like she doesnā€™t know Iā€™m looking! She eventually looked at her phone and sat up straight. Her boyfriend eventually dropped by with her kid (!). She broke out of her study for like 15 minutes, then the dad and kid left. After they left, she resumed studying and talking by adopting even more suggestive poses than before. She entered extreme leg shaking at one point where she was lying down on the couch in a very slutty pose (I rarely use that word, but thatā€™s the only one coming to my mind about that pose). I got passive IOI, no looks, but letā€™s face it, this means that the diffusion distance is crazy if the IOIs where induced by the MX. Thatā€™s what I seem to get with this family of products: passive IOIs, some of which are spectacular, and I achieve a crazy action radius with many of them. The EDB covering effect had died by 2 PM, so the fragrance of the MX took over, it struck me as very very strong. I guess the MX fragrance had died a bit this time around too because I started feeling a bit nauseous because of the weird smell. I went home to have a shower. This is sad because the show was just great. Next time, Iā€™ll bring some EDB along for top-ups, I think. The covering effect was great but it lasts 6 hours at the most. And the MX fragrance seems to live about 6 hours too, especially with 2 MX sprays. Before my shower, I observed again an accelerated heart rate under effort during my daily exercising routine. On the stationary bike, I went up to 100+ bpm then peaked then back down to 60 bpm. I usually peak around 75/80 bpm then go back to 60+ bpm. This was my third time using this product. And like they say, three timeā€™s the charm. This was by far the most interesting trial. Because of the two first, I cannot jump to conclusions, but this product does not look like a dud. I just hope to achieve some consistency. And there is a definite pitfall regarding the fragrance of this particular product. Or maybe my bottle is just defective. I still have to figure out this product but one thing sure, wearing this one without a cover is a no-go for me. **Strength:** Magnetic effect on ladies 0/10 (none observed this time) (to be confirmed), quiet flirty effect 4/10 (self) (to be confirmed), other people misinterpreting the source of the signal 0/10 (none observed this time) (to be confirmed), feelgood carelessness 3/10 (self) (to be confirmed), irritability dampening effect 0/10 (self) (none observed this time due to context) (to be confirmed), magnet for older folks 0/10 (no seniors around this time) (to be confirmed), passive IOIs from the ladies 7/10 (to be confirmed), disinhibition effect or peacock effect in ladies 7/10 (to be confirmed), heart rate increase more important than usual under effort 3/10 (self) (to be confirmed). **Length of Effects:** The quiet flirty vibe, the carelessness, the passive IOIs and the disinhibition or peacock effect in ladies lasted at least 5 hours+ into the test. After that, the context was no longer there. The increased pressure in head effect lasted for 15 minutes. The MX fragrance lasted 6 hours then died down on me. **Effectiveness & Consistency:** This was my third use of the product. I have got very random effects with it in three tries. I canā€™t draw any conclusions regarding effectiveness and consistency yet. **Diffusion/Sillage:** The smell is very strong but it is covered well by EDB. The diffusion with this one seems important. Lady\*#3_was sitting like 12 feet away from me and Lady_#1\*/ Lady\*#2were at 4 feet. My kidā€™s teacher was between 1 and 3 feet from me at times. **If it had a texture, what would it feel like?** Feathers **If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?** Fresh ginger root **What celebrity or public figure is it most like?** Younger Sharon Stone **If it were music, what would it sound like?** A piece of French Cancan music ---
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1 spray of MX491 on my chest.. went to a massage parlor.. the girl was east european I think, and well while it wasnā€™t something normally done at this place, we ended up kissing and having sex with her on topā€¦ she promised more if I visited her again and kept messaging me afterwards.. wow.. Iā€™m impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205/40 "2026-10-29T09:59:27Z")
just searched for mx490 and I found my old post here. Recalling this asian friend here, she had hinted at a new iphone, so I guess that was her main interest here ā˜¹ [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx487-mx491-discussion-thread/63205.md?page=1)