# The OFFICIAL Summer 2012 Ammunition Reporting Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 2, 2012, 7:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019 "2012-07-02T07:33:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 12:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/41 "2012-07-15T12:52:06Z")

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I’ve posted rather subtle results with my 2 trials of summer ammo.. But I’m onto something.. After applying it in the afternoon it leaves me chilled with no drive. SO nothing really happens. Call it taking in external stimuli, and lowering anxiety levels to the point where I don’t feel like taking much of an initiative.

But key point, I applied the ammo in the afternoon. At night when going out , nowon 2 occasions I applied a314b at 2 sprays (the oil has always given me problems). And voila at the last party I attended I got mad respect and did a lot of socialiazing while maintaining a rather calm serene composure (probably from the ammo summer).

So I find ammo summer works very well when I go out later at night and add in some a314. It kinda sets the stage.. Chills me out before I go into leader mode with all that rone from a314. I find I have become more tolerant of the scent of ammo and my allergies do not bother me anymore..

Reason i put 1 spray to front of neck, 1 spray to back of neck.

The party I went to was a family gathering, but I managed to talk to a hot older married women who was spending more time talking to me than her own husband… Love it!

I find ammo by itself is too chill. a314 by itself too commanding.. but combined a winning combo albeit it attracts older women say 25 plus.

Now I have never tried applying the ammo summer and a314 at identical times. I figure it serves little purpose as the summer scent of ammo clashes with the akuto in a314b. So I wear them 3-4 hrs apart.

All in all I’m quite mild mannered with a hint of status so a314 doesn’t take me into conceited land, just confident land. It could just be a great combo.

One thing I did notice at the party, I had to initiate with just about everyone. Young beautiful women would not come up and talk to me if I didn’t initiate. Although this is generally true of a314, you’d think the ammo summer may tame things down but it doesn’t. It’s still high status territory.

I think I’d get a kick about mixing the two at the same time.. Two bad we’re talking French scent and akuto mixed… hard to say if thats a positive. Any comments?

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/42 "2012-07-15T13:27:29Z")

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M&M’s comment, D:

**The GUINEA PIG EXPERIMENTS:** All for the sake of science. **😃**

1. Use ONLY 1 spray of A314b for a couple of outings
2. Use NO A314b for a couple of outings
3. Use 3 sprays of Mr. Summer ONLY, for a couple of outings

Smile, stay sober, and take GOOD notes. 😉

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**Author:** ![profchaos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/profchaos/32/510_2.png) [@profchaos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/profchaos)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/43 "2012-07-15T13:29:26Z")

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I can relate with the effect you have with summer ammo, I makes you really relaxed which I like because I get anxiety most of the time and become up tight. I find that It can make me tired and feel like I need a nap sometimes and in this state i do not want to be doing any high energy tasks or even have to physically exert myself, I found my self thinking where is the nearest chair or if someone asked me to do something I think can we go somewhere that I can sit and just watch people. 🙂

Side not : girls don’t want a needy guy… this takes this away in way that i would enjoy to hang out with sexy chick but do not need to chase after her. —\> theme [Donovan - Mellow Yellow - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrbni0tVBZ8)

As i think of this now it seems to me that this would be a great product for an environment for 1 on 1 time.. a relaxing date that might end in watch a sun set.

I am just rambling my thought I am the newbie 🙂 maybe this helps hopefully it does.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/44 "2012-07-16T04:33:55Z")

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Ok so last night I went to Swiss Chalet with 3 sprays of ammo summer edition and nothing else. WTF? 2 sprays to my front of neck, and 1 to back of neck and allergies not bothering me.. Am I developing a tolerance to the scent?

Ok this is the difference.. When wearing 3 sprays of ammo summer unlike 3 sprays of regular ammo I felt I didn’t OD.

I always OD on 3 sprays of regular ammo and this was 2 days in a row with the summer edition.

I was more assertive with 3 sprays.. i wasn’t as relaxed. I noticed I was more inclined to talk to people, and the TAA and p130 were shining through as I was in a fearless confident and happy mood that lasted 4-5 hrs.

Perhaps 3 sprays is really my soft spot with ammo summer?  
Someone on the board, I can’t recall who mentioned that ammo summer requires more sprays than ammo original. I agree completely with this.

I need to test out 3 sprays more often. I only work out 2 x week now so I’ll wear it on days when i’ll be sure not to be tense or OD (i.e. not on workout days).

On my first trial I’ve found at 3 sprays its a great standalone whereas at 2 sprays I need a314b to charge me up and get me going.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/45 "2012-07-16T04:36:23Z")

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> [@profchaos](#):
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> I can relate with the effect you have with summer ammo, I makes you really relaxed which I like because I get anxiety most of the time and become up tight. I find that It can make me tired and feel like I need a nap sometimes and in this state i do not want to be doing any high energy tasks or even have to physically exert myself, I found my self thinking where is the nearest chair or if someone asked me to do something I think can we go somewhere that I can sit and just watch people. 🙂
> 
> Side not : girls don’t want a needy guy… this takes this away in way that i would enjoy to hang out with sexy chick but do not need to chase after her. —\> theme [Donovan - Mellow Yellow - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrbni0tVBZ8)
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> As i think of this now it seems to me that this would be a great product for an environment for 1 on 1 time.. a relaxing date that might end in watch a sun set.
> 
> I am just rambling my thought I am the newbie 🙂 maybe this helps hopefully it does.

I get the same impression you got.. I have anxiety and find ammo summer kills its dead. I feel really laid back with this and its a great daytime product.. Something relaxing just like you said, watching a sun set.. Its romantic, sensual, and light (talk is not too deep).

Its not commanding, although you still get respect.

Ammo summer I like very much, I have to just get used to learning more how to adapt it to me when wearing it by itself and how to mix it well with other products.

I do love the scent.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/46 "2012-07-16T06:41:21Z")

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Yes, I’m finding [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) a superb daytime mix on its own that can be transitioned to a more night/club/overtly sexual vibe with the addition of some overt none, and/or steered with A314. I’ve also used it with IG and IS - which steer it effectively in more social and playful directions too. 2-3 sprays IG, 1-2 sprays 2x IS seem to hit the spot with me.

Best hits are in the 20s/early 30s range for me. Be a bit cheeky too - I’ve been enjoying the blushes! 🙂

The reason i find it needs more sprays for me is mainly age-related. I normally need the 2x formula to hit my sweet spot.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 8:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/47 "2012-07-16T08:51:43Z")

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> [@profchaos](#):
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> Side not : girls don’t want a needy guy… this takes this away in way that i would enjoy to hang out with sexy chick but do not need to chase after her. —\> theme [Donovan - Mellow Yellow - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrbni0tVBZ8)

Aha… So you’re saying young girls in the 20’s who don’t want a needy guy would be prime candidates for ammo summer?😮 You’re there for her, but not really there in terms of being all over and needy… yep I agree.. Maybe its why it works best on younger girls!  
P.S. I had a blast listening to mellow yellow.. perhaps that tune would be a great advertisement for ammo Summer 2012

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**Author:** ![profchaos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/profchaos/32/510_2.png) [@profchaos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/profchaos)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/48 "2012-07-16T17:16:38Z")

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When I spray summer ammo to my neck/chest and put 2-3 1x shine to my hair the tired feeling seems to be diminished a little bit. or if i reapply summer ammo in the after noon i don’t feel tired.. its seems the first application makes me this way.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/49 "2012-07-16T22:30:13Z")

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> [@profchaos](#):
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> When I spray summer ammo to my neck/chest and put 2-3 1x shine to my hair the tired feeling seems to be diminished a little bit. or if i reapply summer ammo in the after noon i don’t feel tired.. its seems the first application makes me this way.

You see I feel rather lazy too with it because what its doing is killing anxiety.. You become mellow and confuse that with tiredness.

Try 3 sprays and tell me what happens.

[Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is mellow mood, IS AMMO = happy cheerful mood.🆒

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/50 "2012-07-16T22:35:26Z")

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John,

One other thing I wanted to point out is that IS/AMMO relieves mild depression while preserving masculine effects, while Ammo Summer relieves mild anxiety while preserving masculine effects.

Ammo Summer and IS AMMO has been one mone signature that has never caused me problems and I have acute bipolar.. Other products mixes that contain more overt none like Edge NPA, Alpha 7, Alpha Maschio etc have had worsening effects on my health if worn regularly.

It seems you are on to a theraputic product whether you realize it or not.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/51 "2012-07-18T14:23:28Z")

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I took [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) out again this afternoon. 2 sprays with one drop of A7, over the tail end of my workday 2 drops of A314.

New or different woman in the coffeeshop after work, one I’ve not seen there before. Late 20s I would say.

She served me then was soon out and about cleaning the place and seemed to find any excuse to come past me, stop and chat. Which was nice as she was rather cute.

Then I went up for another cup and guess what - another freebie! This stuff will soon pay for itself in free coffees for me alone! 😃

And on the way out, she opened the door and stood holding it in a way that meant I had to squeeze close past her to get out, whilst she stood there holding eye contact and smiling.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/52 "2012-07-18T14:27:50Z")

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Got my package today! 4 sprays spreaded all about … just to see what the scent would do to me. Ewwwwwwwww! Was my initial thought, but after a SHORT spell, I enjoyed sniffing myself. 😉

My outing was shorter than short. Long enough to purchase a 32 oz. of lemonade, so there’s really nothing to report except I like the scent.

Until we meet again … A presto! 😉

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/53 "2012-07-18T14:29:46Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> I took Summer Ammo out again this afternoon. 2 sprays with one drop of A7, over the tail end of my workday 2 drops of A314.
> 
> New or different woman in the coffeeshop after work, one I’ve not seen there before. Late 20s I would say.
> 
> She served me then was soon out and about cleaning the place and seemed to find any excuse to come past me, stop and chat. Which was nice as she was rather cute.
> 
> Then I went up for another cup and guess what - another freebie! This stuff will soon pay for itself in free coffees for me alone! 😃
> 
> And on the way out, she opened the door and stood holding it in a way that meant I had to squeeze close past her to get out, whilst she stood there holding eye contact and smiling.

Mobo, you just seem to be having too much fun for a one legged critter! 😉 Glad you’re like me, not letting the aches and pains keep you in. You using scented or unscented A7?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/54 "2012-07-18T14:32:09Z")

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The scented. Smells just like Glayva liqueur!

[http://www.thinkrewards.com.au/wp-content/uploads/glayva\_large.gif](http://www.thinkrewards.com.au/wp-content/uploads/glayva_large.gif)

😃

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/55 "2012-07-18T14:54:56Z")

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Oh and I forgot another possible hit - After the coffeshop, I popped into a convenience store for some cat food and at the tills, a bit of banter was going between the three staff and the supervisor, so I joined-in. Bit of a laugh!

During this, the 30-something woman at the till beside me, American/Canadian judging by her accent turned and just looked at me, puzzled.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/56 "2012-07-18T14:57:31Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> The scented. Smells just like Glayva liqueur!
> 
> [http://www.thinkrewards.com.au/wp-content/uploads/glayva\_large.gif](http://www.thinkrewards.com.au/wp-content/uploads/glayva_large.gif)
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> 😃

From the SPICY scent, it could very well be the liquor. 'Cause from the color, it matches. 🙄

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/57 "2012-07-18T15:08:13Z")

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I’ve been wearing 3 sprays of ammo summer over the last few days without good results.. I’m back to 2 sprays.

No out of the ordinary hits.. One fat lady in our condo held the door open for me and said your welcome after I thanks her.. She never EVER acknowledges me and my SO.

Personally I think Summer ammo only delivers when combined with other mones like A314 for me. Its chill and when I’m chill Nothing happens. Nada.

I need to WORK for my results, and the only mone that makes me WORK towards status is a314.

I find a314 in the evening after 2 sprays of ammo summer gets me in the mood to work for my results.

Also I don’t like the targets ammo summer attracts.. All young girls like early 20’s, sometimes even teens. They don’t put in any effort to get to know you and I figure if a conversation isn’t 50/50 its not a conversation in my book. I know a man has to initiate first but if you initiate and they are like all wishy washy well LOSE that girl now cause she’s gonna bore you to death.

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I also want to point out after writing this message I went out to an upscale hotel lounge last night with 2 sprays of a314b on and had the bartender in the palm of my hand. Got her name, exchanged mine, gave her some compliments.. I was paying for my bill (was with my SO) and watched how she was in awe of me.. She was about a 8 in face 9 in body. Anyways its exciting to see a314 work after wearing 2 sprays of ammo in the afternoon.

I found my mix. Its kinda like IS, AMMo then A314b but better. I find I’m more chilled and can control my smiling more. Rather than a happy go lucky alpha.

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**Author:** ![jbtlong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a587f6/32.png) [@jbtlong](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbtlong)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/58 "2012-07-18T23:48:35Z")

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Day 1

Scent: smells like clean laundry detergent kinda, not as nice neroli.

self effect: it completely takes away your anxiety, before when I went to bookstores I would hesitate to sit next to someone because I would have to talk to them and break the book store silence. totally gone with this! I walked up to the most attractive girl in the bookstore which was like an 8, and asked if i could sit next to her.

This is something I usually never do. The bad thing is it kinda dulls you a little bit, being excited was probably not possible for me. The best thing about this ammo edition is the scent is not overbearing like the regular ammo, I can wear two shots, as opposed to one of regular ammo, i am 21 btw.

Effects on others: aside from feeling really comfortable in my own skin.  
I get a book sit down, and notice this 17 year old asian girl who was probably a 7, staring at me, or at least when I looked up she kept firm eye contact with me. The girl I asked to sit next to was an easy 8 wearing a sporty outfit, but she was doing homework, ironically I was reading a pickup book haha. Anyway from the corner of my eye, I believe she would glance at me when she felt I was looking at her from the corner of my eye. I noticed her legs were crossed and were really entering my space, I took that as an IOI, I wish she was just reading a book and not taking notes, or I wouldve asked her about good books or something.

Overall the normal ammo would always ramp up my anxiety, I just never felt calm and laidback in ammo, this is the first time ever, NOW TO WORK ON THAT REFUND FOR SHIPPING, hahaha. GREAT PRODUCT. I double ordered this and am definitely keeping the other bottle. I cant wait to test this at a bar soon!

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/59 "2012-07-19T00:52:28Z")

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> [@jbtlong](#):
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> Day 1
> 
> Scent: smells like clean laundry detergent kinda, not as nice neroli.
> 
> self effect: it completely takes away your anxiety, before when I went to bookstores I would hesitate to sit next to someone because I would have to talk to them and break the book store silence. totally gone with this! I walked up to the most attractive girl in the bookstore which was like an 8, and asked if i could sit next to her.
> 
> This is something I usually never do. The bad thing is it kinda dulls you a little bit, being excited was probably not possible for me. The best thing about this ammo edition is the scent is not overbearing like the regular ammo, I can wear two shots, as opposed to one of regular ammo, i am 21 btw.
> 
> Effects on others: aside from feeling really comfortable in my own skin.  
> I get a book sit down, and notice this 17 year old asian girl who was probably a 7, staring at me, or at least when I looked up she kept firm eye contact with me. The girl I asked to sit next to was an easy 8 wearing a sporty outfit, but she was doing homework, ironically I was reading a pickup book haha. Anyway from the corner of my eye, I believe she would glance at me when she felt I was looking at her from the corner of my eye. I noticed her legs were crossed and were really entering my space, I took that as an IOI, I wish she was just reading a book and not taking notes, or I wouldve asked her about good books or something.
> 
> Overall the normal ammo would always ramp up my anxiety, I just never felt calm and laidback in ammo, this is the first time ever, NOW TO WORK ON THAT REFUND FOR SHIPPING, hahaha. GREAT PRODUCT. I double ordered this and am definitely keeping the other bottle. I cant wait to test this at a bar soon!

I am also happy with my ammo purchase and ordered 2 bottles. I find i need to use it along with a314 though for best results or nothing happens.

I get all your self effects and IOIS. Welcome to the club.

John it looks like we’re getting consistent feedback along the reports: low anxiety, chilled, confidence, and young girls. Its just some people are more congruent with ammo than others.

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**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019/60 "2012-07-19T06:20:16Z")

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I am getting the impression that Ammo is better during the night and is a bit more energetic compared to the summer which is a little more chilled, more day timey feel and better with younger women. Am I about right?

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