# The Phero-induced ramblings of a madwoman... **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [February 5, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918 "2008-02-05T23:10:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/121 "2008-08-20T11:53:04Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > I just typed a huuuge thing which is now in cyberspace. Been there, done that, part of the club. Know the feeling too well. > [@phernoob](#): > > Then I made a concoction for my boyz with sample guy smell from macys - with a little A314 kick. My daughter got MX235 (one boy said it smelled like cookie dough, the other said peaches and cream) - and a spritz o’ shine. Her cover scent is always Lovespell from victorias secret. LOL - the family that sprays (pheromones) together, stays together. So - the A314 and MX235 dosed kids are all between 9 and 14? Interesting - How is that going? In particular the A314 - how strong a dose do you think it is? What are you mixing it into? Do you mind saying how old the young men are who are wearing it? > [@phernoob](#): > > so I sprayed the seats of the van with Spaceland - just for grins. After i picked up the 3 friends the atmosphere in the car was near hysteria! Yay. what fun. Wonder what fun happened tonight. I can only imagine with teens and tweens. > [@phernoob](#): > > Im hoping to get some of the new woodymaker. Its been a while since i have seen real hard wood. not that fake laminate stuff i usually get. Bella and I are trying to set you up with one of the guys in my martial arts class - the one with the mohawk and lots of ink. But he is mid-20s, single, employed, looking for a female friend, and very fit. Very. > [@phernoob](#): > > My H does not have ONE friend he sees socially. He hangs out at work, or makes light convo with my friends Hs. Other than that, I think he expects people to come to him. The other thing that couples do is get caught in what I call the “parent trap”. When the kids are young they take up a lot of time. It is often hard to maintain social adult friendships because of kids bedtimes, meal schedules, school-work, activities, etc.. But once they start getting older then the older ones can babysit the younger ones, they have friends and/or activities like “bowling night” where they are out of the house and parents actually have time for an adult social life. Not to mention “mommy and daddy time” where you don’t have to worry about location or noise or locking a door 'cause they are gone. (Of course you have to be careful with that. One weekend evening while I was still in middle school we dropped off one of my female friends at her house after a movie or something. When I saw her at school on Monday she said she walked in, saw both of her parents sitting on the couch, went around to say goodnight - and saw neither one had anything on below the waist.😮 :o She was still a little 😮 at school on Monday.😛 ) One problem that arises is when you do not have any outside friends. Then you can feel trapped or like you do not have any friends or anyone to talk to. Likewise if you don’t have any outside friends to talk to about life at home. Becomes a bad circle - no friends and the unhappiness bleeds over into the home. Then you are unhappy at home and have no one to talk to about it. Then you are unhappy because you feel alone and have no friends. > [@phernoob](#): > > People like us realize you have to make some overtures even if you are not 100% percent compatible with a prospective friend or date. Exactly - that is how I end up talking to a lot of different people - search for the commonalities to create conversation and connection. Crack a joke. Ask them questions and get them talking about something they really like or do that is interesting. ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/122 "2008-08-20T13:10:24Z")
My boys really like the idea of pheromones. They had an itty bitty drop of A314 mixed with some really revolting sample cologne - Michael Jordan I think. No, must have been his grandpa’s. I did not tell them what it was called, but they said it smelled like old men??? They really dont need help in the respect department. They are at least a head taller than their peers - and other boys their age literally look up to them. They like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) because it makes them feel happy. Otherwise, really no effects noted last night. As far as H is concerned. I got him the A314 and a couple of other things to help him to be social. He has always been a loner. Never felt comfortable making friends. He expects me to do that for him. When I do try to set up a couples thing, he picks apart the other guy - too into sports (my H only watches the olympics & hates football, baseball & basketball)too much money, too into toys etc etc. He is a very judgemental person. I think quite shallow too. He is all about appearance. Especially his. He spends ages getting ready. He works out too much, is concerned with how tan he is, and weighs himself constantly. I feel if i put that much effort into my appearance, life would pass me by. Hey - the guy with the mohawk sounds interesting. uno problemo - ummm isnt he WAY too young for me? I am VERY fit too - and VERY OLD! (43). Im sure he would be sooo excited to be fixed up with an old bat! ~'~ ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/123 "2008-08-20T14:50:24Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > My boys really like the idea of pheromones. They had an itty bitty drop of A314 mixed with some really revolting sample cologne - Michael Jordan I think. No, must have been his grandpa’s. I did not tell them what it was called, but they said it smelled like old men??? > They really dont need help in the respect department. They are at least a head taller than their peers - and other boys their age literally look up to them. maybe IG would be better for them? > [@phernoob](#): > > I am VERY fit too - and VERY OLD! (43). Im sure he would be sooo excited to be fixed up with an old bat! ~'~ you are only as old as you feel, since I haven’t felt you yet, I cannot comment. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/124 "2008-08-20T15:03:50Z")
LOL Woofie! That’s true! Now I dont feel so old. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/125 "2008-08-20T15:04:54Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > I am VERY fit too - and VERY OLD! (43). Im sure he would be sooo excited to be fixed up with an old bat! ~'~ Alright there phernoob, you’re treading on shaky ground! I’m 45, soon to be 46. SteveO, Bella, Bosshank and Renny are right up there too, and Tisha’s closing in on ya. And, I’m sure there are others too! Watch your mouth, before we have to wash it out with soap! 😛 😉 ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/126 "2008-08-20T15:18:13Z")
Oh Hell. My mouth has been washed out with soap so many times - I cant taste it anymore. Ha! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/127 "2008-08-20T15:28:33Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > Oh Hell. My mouth has been washed out with soap so many times - I cant taste it anymore. > > Ha! 😛 OK then, we’ll wash it out with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), and maybe a bit of Instant Sexiness (b), and what the hell ,a couple shots from my to-go of straight Androstenone at 112.5 mcg’s per spray, just for kicks! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/128 "2008-08-20T15:49:49Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > OK then, we’ll wash it out with Instant Shine, and maybe a bit of Instant Sexiness (b), and what the hell ,a couple shots from my to-go of straight Androstenone at 112.5 mcg’s per spray, just for kicks! 😛 I never thought of pheromones as a mouthwash or gargle rinse. ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/129 "2008-08-20T15:58:25Z")
\ Oh Crap! I think a tooth fell out! I blame it on the 'none… ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/130 "2008-08-20T16:08:56Z")
> [@woofie2](#): > > I never thought of pheromones as a mouthwash or gargle rinse. Yep! much faster dispersion. Just gargle for a bit then blow hard on your targets! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/131 "2008-08-20T16:21:47Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Yep! much faster dispersion. Just gargle for a bit then blow hard on your targets! 🙄 Aint that a figure of speech? Plus, do ya think they would be happier if I had no teeth? ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/132 "2008-08-20T16:27:16Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Yep! much faster dispersion. Just gargle for a bit then blow hard on your targets! 🙄 I guess that is one way to cleanup after kissing A$$ all day. I know I have heard of people licking the bottle, but not using the pheromones orally. 😃 > [@360addict](#): > > Yes there is a secret technique. Before you spray you must turn the bottle upside down, rub it twice, lick the bottom and say “I am the man” 3 times and then spray. LOL … ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/133 "2008-08-20T16:53:18Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > Aint that a figure of speech? **Plus, do ya think they would be happier if I had no teeth**? Ohhh, the things I could say here. But nope! I’m gonna climb up outa the gutter and be nice! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/134 "2008-08-20T16:54:49Z")
> [@woofie2](#): > > I guess that is one way to cleanup after kissing A$$ all day. > I know I have heard of people licking the bottle, but not using the pheromones orally. 😃 Lick the bottle? Reminds me of the party trick I used to do in college when I was drunk. Mark - you have heard this one i am sure. My friends used to dare me to see how far down over a beer bottle I could put my mouth. Great fun. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/135 "2008-08-20T17:13:51Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > Lick the bottle? > Reminds me of the party trick I used to do in college when I was drunk. Mark - you have heard this one i am sure. > > My friends used to dare me to see how far down over a beer bottle I could put my mouth. Great fun. Yep I remember, the lag of a gag reflex and your little bar trick witht the beer bottle. That’s why I held back on the toothless comment. 😉 😛 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/136 "2008-08-20T17:18:38Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > He has always been a loner. Never felt comfortable making friends. He expects me to do that for him. When I do try to set up a couples thing, he picks apart the other guy - too into sports (my H only watches the olympics & hates football, baseball & basketball)too much money, too into toys etc etc. He is a very judgemental person. I think quite shallow too. He is all about appearance. Especially his. He spends ages getting ready. He works out too much, is concerned with how tan he is, and weighs himself constantly. Sounds like a deep-rooted insecurity - lack of real self-confidence, questioning real self-worth, or real desirability for who he really is in the eyes of others. Also somewhat passive-aggressive: expects you to bring the friends there but then picks them apart. May also be trying - consciously or sub-consciously to put you in the position of always trying to please him instead of the way things ought to work in a marriage: both parties trying to take care of each other, mutual support, complementing each other’s strengths … but hard to say from outside looking in through such small keyholes … > [@phernoob](#): > > Hey - the guy with the mohawk sounds interesting. uno problemo - ummm isnt he WAY too young for me? > I am VERY fit too - and VERY OLD! (43). Im sure he would be sooo excited to be fixed up with an old bat! > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Alright there phernoob, you’re treading on shaky ground! I’m 45, soon to be 46. SteveO, Bella, Bosshank and Renny are right up there too, and Tisha’s closing in on ya. First - gotta stop with the old bat stuff - that is self-defeating. Men love confidence (but not arrogance) in a woman. Or at least men worth going for. Second - Mark’s right - too many of us the same age. We can find you if we have to - lol. Third - Mr. Mohawk is one of the few advanced guys I cannot routinely take. He may win - but he has his hands full. I used to disarm those younger guys by reminding them how old and broken I was, etc. etc.. They know better now. Heck - most of them go to twice as many practices as I do and cannot routinely win against me. Trust me - they have learned that age does not affect performance all that much. > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > … then blow hard on your targets! > [@phernoob](#): > > Aint that a figure of speech? Plus, do ya think they would be happier if I had no teeth? 😮 This conversation is heading south in more ways than one … 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/137 "2008-08-20T17:19:56Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > My friends used to dare me to see how far down over a beer bottle I could put my mouth. Great fun. you mean that isn’t that a normal activity at college parties? I have seen that done with a standard longneck bottle, and she was able to lick the bottom and we were sure the young lady got paid by the minute on weekends. 😮 (talk about no gag reflex) I mean she was a Cheerleader. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/138 "2008-08-20T17:52:59Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > Lick the bottle? My friends used to dare me to see how far down over a beer bottle I could put my mouth. Great fun. > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Yep I remember, the lag of a gag reflex and your little bar trick witht the beer bottle. > [@woofie2](#): > > I have seen that done with a standard longneck bottle, and she was able to lick the bottom (talk about no gag reflex) 😮 I uhhh will leave that one alone … for now … however, Your Honor, I reserve the right to cross- at a later time … lol.😛 ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/139 "2008-08-20T18:04:25Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > 😮 I uhhh will leave that one alone … for now … however, Your Honor, I reserve the right to cross- at a later time … lol.😛 Well then counselor, you will have to approach the bar… I know I do… often - like every judge! ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918/140 "2008-08-20T18:17:13Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Sounds like a deep-rooted insecurity - lack of real self-confidence, questioning real self-worth, or real desirability for who he really is in the eyes of others. > > Also somewhat passive-aggressive: expects you to bring the friends there but then picks them apart. > > May also be trying - consciously or sub-consciously to put you in the position of always trying to please him instead of the way things ought to work in a marriage: both parties trying to take care of each other, mutual support, complementing each other’s strengths … but hard to say from outside looking in through such small keyholes … Once again, you have hit the nail on the head. How scary. Do you know us? Seriously. Often this type of behavior in men is a result of a domineering insecure father - with no support from the mother. A self-perpetuating “can’t win for losing” situation. Yes, I am put in the position of trying to please (i am a pleaser- fixer type)- but things always fall short of meeting the standard. Why? Because people like that really dont know how to define what they want - so its always this nebulous out of reach ideal. Yea, when i got married, i thought i was signing up for a partnership… Well. I am too old for that crap. I have three kids to think about. Plus getting old is scary. I want to be with someone i can count on. Not someone whose idea of support is “dont be ridiculous - youll be fine”. Not a good thing to say to a woman waiting for biopsy results to see if she has breast cancer. Ok this is getting tooo serious. Back to gumming the beer bottle… [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918.md?page=6) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phero-induced-ramblings-of-a-madwoman/8918.md?page=8)