# The Phoenix Force Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [December 5, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145 "2007-12-05T15:29:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 11

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/201 "2008-03-25T07:12:27Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> Oh sorry in that post when I said ‘mix’ I was referring to ammo 1.0 + instant honesty..  
> “Pheros” doesn’t contain real cops but something which gives off a similar vibe to a much lesser extent though..

The girls I’m meeting in my next couple of dates have never met me before.. though I knew a relative of one of them by coincidence…

I think I’ll go for a no-none approach, perhaps covering with Pheros for a bit of that ‘coppy’ feeling..

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/202 "2008-03-25T07:15:36Z")

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Yeah or a lap dance 😛 …but then you get the perfume as well! Not good 😃

Ok so Ammo, instant honesty and a little cops… hmmm could be interesting.

Well why not… i imagine it will be just a little dirty lol

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/203 "2008-03-25T07:17:12Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> Yeah or a lap dance 😛 …but then you get the perfume as well! Not good 😃
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> Ok so Ammo, instant honesty and a little cops… hmmm could be interesting.
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> Well why not… i imagine it will be just a little dirty lol

I’m afraid I might scare one of them off - one of them said her brother is more ‘naughty’ than her whatever that means..

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/204 "2008-03-25T07:20:32Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> I’m afraid I might scare one of them off - one of them said her brother is more ‘naughty’ than her whatever that means..

He he he oh so she sees herself as a good girl then.

So no Ammo …Any idea what it will be? Im finding p83 makes me more flirty, horny and direct…wonder if it could make her a little naughty too.

i must try this one myself …p83 and “pheros” cover

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/205 "2008-03-25T07:45:36Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> He he he oh so she sees herself as a good girl then.
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> So no Ammo …Any idea what it will be? Im finding p83 makes me more flirty, horny and direct…wonder if it could make her a little naughty too.
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> i must try this one myself …p83 and “pheros” cover

yep.. she’s a dancer btw, very physical probably..

what about:  
instant female magic & [instant honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) @back of neck+ [instant openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) + p83 + instant shine ?

perhaps I could add a drop of ls-a314 too?

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 10:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/206 "2008-03-25T10:21:35Z")

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Wow a flamenco dancer!

In my opinion you cant go wrong with a little A314 just to encourage her to think long term

…a little p83 for sexual spice and the nols on top (beta & alpha) to keep the vibe upbeat while the A314 and p83 works on her from below he he he

Carry the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) in a togo just in case you need it 🙂

What do you think?

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/207 "2008-03-25T11:03:38Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> Wow a flamenco dancer!
> 
> In my opinion you cant go wrong with a little A314 just to encourage her to think long term
> 
> …a little p83 for sexual spice and the nols on top (beta & alpha) to keep the vibe upbeat while the A314 and p83 works on her from below he he he
> 
> Carry the Instant Female Magic in a togo just in case you need it 🙂
> 
> What do you think?

I think it’s a great idea.. will do that!  
with some cover by “Pheros”.. 😃😃

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/208 "2008-03-25T14:51:16Z")

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here’s my first date mix: (carrying 1 togo IFM just in case)  
front of neck: 2 drops ls-a314, p83 (1 spray of 12.5mcg), instant openness, instant shine (both 1 spray, regular size)  
back of neck/hair: 1 spray of 2x instant honesty for the betanol effect 😃

covered with a nice note of 4 dabs of Pheros 🆒

[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/209 "2008-03-25T21:21:09Z")

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I went on the first date and I’d say it went well. I did some minor kino too..  
The topics discussed ended up including some racy stuff like nudism and more… 😃 it wasn’t me who veered the discussion there.. 😃😃  
We laughed a LOT and she recalled some fun times she had.. when she mentioned some negative experience I got her to think of something else.

Hoping she really enjoyed it too like she seemed to and will want more from yours truly.. 🆒🆒

Now I have to think of a mix for tomorrow, as I’ve got another 1st date.. hmm perhaps ammunition 1.0 + dab/drop of EoW (I did dilute a little of it ages ago some of it with some oil or something, I forgot what I used) + instant shine…

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/210 "2008-03-26T00:35:51Z")

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Good result!..im glad

I imagine you diluted it with some none based product…? 😛

…yes for the next first date go for the Ammo, dab of EOW and a little shine.

Im curios about how it would go…

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/211 "2008-03-26T06:07:43Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> Good result!..im glad
> 
> I imagine you diluted it with some none based product…? 😛
> 
> …yes for the next first date go for the Ammo, dab of EOW and a little shine.
> 
> Im curios about how it would go…

thanks!! looking forward for tonight’s date.. she may be the more explicitly naughty type I think.. perhaps this will be some fun!

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/212 "2008-03-26T06:14:21Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> thanks!! looking forward for tonight’s date.. she may be the more explicitly naughty type I think.. perhaps this will be some fun!

ohhh could be a fun night then 😉

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/213 "2008-03-26T06:19:29Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> ohhh could be a fun night then 😉

we’ll see! 😃😃

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/214 "2008-03-26T10:16:16Z")

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Im really happy!

Now your REALLY on a roll 😉

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 11:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/215 "2008-03-26T11:13:47Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> Im really happy!
> 
> Now your REALLY on a roll 😉

yes that’s true.. 🆒🆒

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/216 "2008-03-26T12:25:05Z")

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Checked out the diluted EoW bottle I have.. hmm the dropper still has something within it. apparently I had diluted one drop of beta EoW with 15ml of water. The water in the bottle seems to have evaporated mostly, but there is still some in the dropper itself… guess I can try a drop of that and see how it goes.  
edit: I still have the beta Essense of Woman bottle itself.. that’s really concentrated stuff.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/217 "2008-03-26T19:07:27Z")

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It got cancelled from her side..

Anyway got another meeting with the girl I wasn’t interested that much in, will let her know I’m seeing her more as a friend..

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/218 "2008-03-27T02:54:10Z")

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does she still wanna meet at a later date?

…it could be anything…My present girlfriend canceled our first date but we got together a few days later .

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/219 "2008-03-27T08:22:44Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> does she still wanna meet at a later date?
> 
> …it could be anything…My present girlfriend canceled our first date but we got together a few days later .

She didn’t say she did and I didn’t try to get another date out of her.  
Anyway I didn’t like her for the long term..

Meanwhile the girl I had the great 1st date with wants a second date, it’s going to happen next week and she suggested something really interesting, a boat trip.. she seems to be into me and I think I really like her! 😃😃😃

Now should I use the same mix for the trip or move to ammunition?

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/220 "2008-03-27T12:16:13Z")

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Great! sounds fun

Id stick with with the mix you were wearing…i know we believe in varying our sig but in this case id play it a little conservative.At least in the beginning… Maybe pump up the nols since your gonna be outside a lot of the time.

All the best bro 😉

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