# The Phoenix Force Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [December 5, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145 "2007-12-05T15:29:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 19

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/361 "2010-10-01T22:22:15Z")

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Whats up with the tiny text?😉

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/362 "2010-10-02T16:01:15Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Whats up with the tiny text?😉

I write my mix down in a wordprocessor doc then I copy and paste, the text was larger, I tried to get the normal size (default) text.. looks ok to me.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/363 "2010-10-02T16:01:55Z")

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What to use for a 30-somethingish online date, mx301 + a314 ? hmmm

Radman and Cinci Jack’s observations indicate that classic ammo would work better. Mx301 is better for younger girls it appears - from these posts.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/364 "2010-10-02T19:56:59Z")

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I think the buffers Steve put in for the -none works for the younger crowd. But I think that you could still do it with A314 + MX301. Older women are more receptive to -none anyway, maybe just up the dosage. I know Steve uses in the upwards of 6 sprays of MX301 and it works very well for him.

I tried it and not so good effects.

Mid 20’s which I’ve tested it on these women have been IG + MX301 2x a piece and it works very well in that situation

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/365 "2010-10-03T10:29:41Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> I think the buffers Steve put in for the -none works for the younger crowd. But I think that you could still do it with A314 + MX301. Older women are more receptive to -none anyway, maybe just up the dosage. I know Steve uses in the upwards of 6 sprays of MX301 and it works very well for him.
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> I tried it and not so good effects.
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> Mid 20’s which I’ve tested it on these women have been IG + MX301 2x a piece and it works very well in that situation

thanks… I don’t have IG so far perhaps I should invest in it at some point.

Meanwhile I went on this first meeting, we met late. We talked for hours on end.. not a good thing from what I’ve read but I’m not sure.. she just didn’t want to leave me. She wanted to walk and we walked to the next town and went to a cafe. We got a couple of coffees and talked even more, then I walked her to her car. I got to know she’s a naughty girl, well good but naughty is how I would call it..

I took it easy, my hand touched hers a bit while walking, just a bit pre-kino..

Now it’s the next day and I reread some very good advice I was given here, not to contact her back for some good time (even 2 days was mentioned in that thread).. most likely she may contact me herself, if she’s at all curious.. Will now post about the mix I used, which I think was a success (or seems so).

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/366 "2010-10-03T13:10:01Z")

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Here’s the mix I used. An hour before or so I mixed 2 sprays IFM and one or two sprays of cologne in an empty IH to-go bottle.

I sprayed 2 times on every wrist and rubbed them.

I sprayed 1 spray of Ammo v1.5 (the one with TAA) on the back of my neck. (This was a mistake, I wanted to do this in front)  
Then sprayed 1 spray of CTTM2 on the front of my neck.

My date is in her late 30’s..

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/367 "2010-10-03T21:00:48Z")

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Tried out MX301 today (yes it’s that famous ICM mix created by Steveo)… 2 sprays on the neck.

Only met youngish girls around 18/19/20, they smiled and we talked too mind you, but they weren’t the age range I was hoping for (25-30).. maybe next time.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/368 "2010-10-03T21:43:22Z")

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Add some Rone and it will increase the age of the attraction factor for the ladies

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/369 "2010-10-04T07:18:13Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Add some Rone and it will increase the age of the attraction factor for the ladies

Thanks… I’m sure it will… the problem on that occasion was that there weren’t any 20-somethings there ☹  
There were other ladies over 30 who I don’t really like for one reason or another (one’s a nice girl but she’s got some issues)…

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/370 "2010-10-04T19:24:23Z")

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Thought we were going to hit it off, but it seems not to be the case..☹

on my first meeting with an Internet date I don’t give a kiss at the end, well kisses on the cheeks. I even brought it up 🙂 so she would know.. it’s not that I was dropped in the “friends zone” but was given “busy” answer for my suggestion and a non-reply for my text suggesting some alternative creative dates (non-dinner)…

Anyway there’s more fish in the sea. Seeing someone else tomorrow.. starting to wonder if on the first Internet meeting I should close with a nice kiss…

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/371 "2010-10-04T20:06:28Z")

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I’m sure seafood is always on the menu where you live. I’ve seen pictures too, and the girls are just gorgeous! Lucky you 😃

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/372 "2010-10-04T20:20:42Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> I’m sure seafood is always on the menu where you live. I’ve seen pictures too, and the girls are just gorgeous! Lucky you 😃

Precisely 😃 & thanks!

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/373 "2010-10-08T08:58:41Z")

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Yesterday was reading about the ‘bad boy look’.. interesting stuff. Seems to be more about looking angrily than anything. I wonder if -none, your body’s none, flares up when you do that..

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/374 "2010-10-09T16:17:58Z")

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Saw this woman at the supermarket.. didn’t like her a lot as she looked angrily at me.. I did use MX301 yesterday so perhaps it was the residual effect or something. Even an old man looked at me in an odd way.

Yes yesterday I sprayed 2.5x MX301.. got some weird hits, one guy I had added on facebook came up to me and said he would approve the addition.. lol I didn’t even remember adding him!  
Also there was a guy I know who did a bit of a DIHL when I talked to him, he completely ignored and kept staring. He’s a bit socially inept I guess.  
Some ladies were quite friendly too I can add.

Ah and today I finally received my Dial Magnetic by post. I was looking forward to this as it’s not in the shops here yet. Is it sold anywhere outside the USA actually? Now it’s time to reread the Dial Magnetic threads especially the one started by Steve. Ah they say it’s not sold in Europe.. hehe but I managed to get 2 bottles 😃😃 Poor european citizens who will have to be exposed to the evil pheromones of Dial Magnetic!! 😃😃

edit: Just checked - my version of dial is the Clean-Rinsing…

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 10:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/375 "2010-10-21T10:31:23Z")

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Haven’t seen much effects from dial magnetic so far, though I only tried it once.

Was going to an event yesterday and sprayed on MX301 twice.. only to find out it had happened the previous day lol.. so MX301 was wasted..

Today I met a local female celebrity - she’s really a stunner - at her workplace… too bad nothing came out of it as I only saw and spoke to her for a minute.

Now I have another occasion to use MX301 coming up and perhaps a314+ammunition or I could do some anol pack testing later too…

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**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/376 "2010-10-21T11:35:46Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> Yesterday was reading about the ‘bad boy look’.. interesting stuff. Seems to be more about looking angrily than anything. I wonder if -none, your body’s none, flares up when you do that..

Can you elaborate on that ‘bad boy look’? Where did you read about it?

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/377 "2010-10-21T15:23:55Z")

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> [@Bolkie](#):
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> Can you elaborate on that ‘bad boy look’? Where did you read about it?

It was in Carlos Xuma’s material.. it was a matter of not smiling, squinting your eyes the way I understood it…

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**Author:** ![Onedzguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onedzguy/32/1382_2.png) [@Onedzguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Onedzguy)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/378 "2010-10-21T22:37:21Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> It was in Carlos Xuma’s material.. it was a matter of not smiling, squinting your eyes the way I understood it…

Sounds like Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry. ODG

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/379 "2010-10-28T15:33:22Z")

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> [@Onedzguy](#):
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> Sounds like Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry. ODG

lol good one! 😃😃

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/380 "2010-10-28T15:40:55Z")

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I had a new first meeting/date and the way things developed (talking wise), it was a success it seems..

My mix was  
1 drop A314  
2 sprays [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/)  
2 sprays MX301

My date is in her late thirties so she can take the -none and the mix was quite buffered.  
While she started talking about a negative experience, things took on a better turn afterwards…  
I used the vin carlo program to see her type and it told me her type was the Conoisseur.. with this woman you should avoid escalating too quickly, and I was comfortable with that.

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