# The Power of Ammo, IO, and P83 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 28, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863 "2012-09-28T05:23:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/1 "2012-09-28T05:23:24Z")
I’m traveling through a small town on my way home last night. Got a room and went to a local restaurant for a drink and a meal. My waitress turns out to be a beautiful 21 yr old southern girl that would knock your socks off. I was sitting there as she took my drink order and noticed no real interest on her part. She was polite, sweet and a little eye contact, but nothing much. went to my car and happened to have [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) regular, IO and P83, so I did 2xammo, IOx2 and p83x1. went back in and waited for her to come around for my order. Already there was a slight change in her. She kind of squinted her eyes on me, like she was doing a double take and slowly a smile swept across her face as I started bantering with her. Long story short, before I was done with my meal she was sitting across from me at the table, talking about life, her bf, my gf, plans, dreams.. kino from her. As I left she asked me to come back, I said I was passing through town. She said she would love to see me again someday. I gave her my number and said if ever you are in NY call me. she gave me a hug and a sweet kiss. I think I could have closed her that night, but I don’t cheat… sigh… Anyway, don’t ever tell me mones don’t work. They may not do all the work, but they definitely change the equation. Here was a girl who showed little to no interest, and suddenly it turned on its head after mones entered the picture. I can’t think of a better example of what mones do. Yes, I worked her and bantered her and layed on the humor/charm, but the mones opened that door. I tell you, I almost feel guilty… almost ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/2 "2012-09-28T05:34:10Z")
Yes - Mones and small town girls. Fish in a barrel! 😉😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/3 "2012-09-28T05:44:51Z")
Hey, really good to see people have results with the mix I am aiming for (I would also add IShine! )! Was the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) in the default dosage? Keep the work up 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cjohnson446](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@Cjohnson446](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cjohnson446)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/4 "2012-09-28T13:22:21Z")
You should feel guilty, you gave the waitress your phone number when you have a girlfriend. You sat there flirting with her, trying to see how far you could take things, and then stopped at the last minute. After giving her your number, hug, and “sweet kiss” ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/5 "2012-09-28T13:56:28Z")
> [@Cjohnson446](#): > > You should feel guilty, you gave the waitress your phone number when you have a girlfriend. You sat there flirting with her, trying to see how far you could take things, and then stopped at the last minute. After giving her your number, hug, and “sweet kiss” Lol, it’s human nature to look for excitement wherever possible. No reason to feel guilty at all. Flirting and bantering is a great way to brighten someones mood and IMO he did a great thing by letting her have a good time for the little time he was there for. ---
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 7:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/6 "2012-09-29T07:33:09Z")
> [@rohitiyer10](#): > > Lol, it’s human nature to look for excitement wherever possible. > > No reason to feel guilty at all. Flirting and bantering is a great way to brighten someones mood and IMO he did a great thing by letting her have a good time for the little time he was there for. Amen! I like how you think. I don’t feel guilty about flirting, I said I almost feel guilty about well mones work. I swear the change in her was night/day. The walls came down in minutes and allowed us to be ourselves and enjoy our limited encounter. I am sure her boyfriend enjoyed the extra spring in her step when she got home. The [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) was 12.5 mcgs. I usually like twice that, but with the IO I thought it was a better mix that way. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/7 "2012-09-29T08:52:44Z")
You will probably find you don’t need nearly so much [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) with a more social mix compared to an overtly sexual one - the threshold for disinhibition becomes much lower. Personally I’d be looking around 15mcg with an androstenol-high mix like that.. ---
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/8 "2012-09-29T08:56:26Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > You will probably find you don’t need nearly so much P83 with a more social mix compared to an overtly sexual one - the threshold for disinhibition becomes much lower. Personally I’d be looking around 15mcg with an androstenol-high mix like that.. So I got it right. I’m really loving that mix. Its great as an opener and its also good if you are already comfortable with the target. TUTH and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is also a great combo with IH. So many things to try! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/9 "2012-09-29T09:00:45Z")
Add IS to that and we would be on exactly the same wavelength - IH/IS just seems to cut through everything and get to the point of the other mones very effectively TUTH/IH/IS/[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is probably my second favourite club or raunchy-place mix. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 9:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/10 "2012-09-29T09:19:57Z")
> [@](#): > > You will probably find you don’t need nearly so much P83 with a more social mix compared to an overtly sexual one - the threshold for disinhibition becomes much lower. Personally I’d be looking around 15mcg with an androstenol -high mix like that.. What’s the effect of too much [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 11:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/11 "2012-09-29T11:13:01Z")
Subjects get a bit dazed and confused, with little inclination to go any further. That’s usually over 100mcg though, ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 11:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/12 "2012-09-29T11:27:27Z")
Mobocaster, does that mean that if I have a 37.5 mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and use it 2 1/2 times, it will have that effect? I am actually curious to try it out, be it ghosting or negative or whatnot. Interesting to see the effect. So 3 sprays of 37.5 mcg would have the same effect as 1 spray of 112.5 right? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-ammo-io-and-p83/56863/13 "2012-09-29T11:42:49Z")
Yes, just add-up the sprays till you get the required amount. Its not ghosting, more just a fidgety, confused, don’t know where to sit/what to do, lolling around gazing at you but with no inclination to do much more kind of response. Disinhibition to the point of veg-out maybe. Personally I get best from [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) in the 30-80mcg range alongside sexuals and 10-30mcg range alongside social mixes.