# The RAD reports on ICM 2.0 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 22, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349 "2011-07-22T05:02:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/1 "2011-07-22T05:02:25Z")
First report was actually private and sent to Steve. I kept it private since I wasn’t sure how many people he had sent it to and didn’t want to instigate any jealousy or butt hurtedness (is that a word?") So first report in quotes followed by second report. Both days were two sprays of ICM 2.0 > [@](#): > > OK so I was planning on going pheromone free today to start testing fresh tomorrow but I just couldn’t help myself. After the negative experience with MX399 I decided to give ICM a try. > > Now I’m not very experienced with putatives and experimones yet but going by rep I’m gonna guess this new mix has some P86 in it cause I was getting touchy feelies from women all day. > > First at work. I didn’t notice right away but by mid day it struck me that women kept putting their hands on me. Not as aggressively as with MX297 (dunno if you read my reports on that) but a LOT of hand on my shoulder, grabbing me by the arm, playfully teasing me about my sideburns as they stroked them etc. That was work. > > After work I went to get a haircut and asked for a shampoo beforehand. I would have thought the pheromones had worn off by then but maybe some of the hot water got to my app spot and sorta refreshed the diffusion of any residual pheromones that were there?..in either case I got a face full of tit. > The tit was ginormous, sadly that was about the only thing I found attractive about this particular stylist but the effects were still valid. > > I’d also guess this has more Androstenol than 301 did. 301 got me some comfortable conversation. This one made women into chatter boxes so I’m guessing more Androstenol and the Alpha variety instead of the Beta that was in 301. The stylist wouldn’t stop talking about anything and everything under the sun. But that’s part of her job so I didn’t count that as a hit. > > The one that struck me as surreal was on my way home I stopped at Chipotle. (dunno if they have those where you live but it’s a “wholesome/organic” Mexican food franchise) Anyway this milfy woman is in line in front of me and she has a good size list of people she’s ordering for. I’m in no hurry so I don’t mind her taking a little longer. She keeps looking at me and smiling, at one point even giggling like a hs girl. > > She gets to the register and my order is actually ready, I’m just waiting on her so I can pay. She suddenly says very loudly “Oh I almost forgot I need two steak tacos!” So that holds things up a few more minutes. I’m not bothered at all so I’m pretty sure you still have TAA in there which is one of the few pheromones I get any self effect from. > > The milf grabs my arm and is laughing “I’m soooo sorry, you must hate being behind me” I resisted the urge to tell her how much I didn’t mind being behind her (the ass was pretty choice) Then she grabs me by the arm (there’s that kino again) and says “I can’t forget the tacos, they’re for my best friend and her mother died today…so me bringing everyones order but hers would probably be pretty bad” > > …?..uhhhhh…wtf?. I’m thinking, this woman was looking at me like I was on the menu, giggling like a schoolgirl etc. when the whole time she was there getting dinner for her best friend who’s grieving over her mother who died…HOURS AGO! > I mean I was playing this in my head. I know my best friends parents and they’re like an honorary aunt and uncle to me. Most anyone I know has a similar relationship to their best friends parents. So I can’t imagine her best friends mom being only a casual acquaintance. > > Now either this woman was either > A.) not very close to her friends mom, or didn’t know her well enough to take the death very hard. > B.) a total fucking sociopath that would probably be ok trying hook up at a funeral. > Or C.) this new mix is so good it makes a woman’s pink bits scream louder than her own conscience. > > * * * Ok so that was day one with ICM 2.0 sent to Steve via PM. Day 2.0 I went with a friend and his son to see Green Lantern. The movie had been out for a bit so the theater was a little less than half full. I saw a 4 set, 3 girls (all cute) and one guy and decided to open. I don’t know how much None is in this but the social buffering as is good as MX301 since the guy seemed as friendly to my approach as the girls were. Fortunately the best looking one was not the guys girl friend, but his older sisters best friend. Guy was 19 as was his Girlfriend Older sister was 23 Sisters best friend was 22 All Caucasian. Turned out to be the guys birthday and they were treating him to the same movie we were going to see. We chatted for a few minutes about the ridiculous price of concessions, when the girlfriend asked the guy to explain again who Green Lantern was. I chimed in a little, hit him with a couple of off the wall comic nerd trivia questions and he was my willing beta after that. My friend and his kid join in the convo and it really took on a feel of a group of people at a social mixer. (having a kid around is gold for impressing women btw). My friend tells the boyfriend “Don’t get this guy started, I promise you he’ll go to bed tonight and forget more about comics than you and I could learn in a lifetime.” …not the best playup I ever got but what the hell right. So I get the impression that I’m seeing some interest in the sisters friend and this is a good thing. She throws a minor shit test about a guy my age being into comics and I throw some advanced literary comparisons between the super hero genre and Greek mythology as well as biblical metaphors…when I turn it on I can make reading comics sound as cultured as reading Tolstoy. The sisters best friend is slack jawed gives me an amazed look before saying “wow I never thought about it like that.” I shoot a playful neg (really more of of IOI with an IOD calibrator) by stroking her cheek and saying “That’s ok, you’re pretty.” Anyway I would have liked to have run a bit more game but the previews were about to start so my friend and I went to sit down. The 4 set was still waiting for a couple of items they ordered at the concession stand. Sitting waiting for previews I hear the sound of people taking their seats right behind us and some very familiar voices. As I open my reeces cups I feel a hand on my shoulder (there’s that kino) and a voice asking if I would share one. (now here’s the thing I wanna throw out for newbies. Do NOT over focus on a target, you can miss things. Even I do and I consider myself to be reasonably good at this. Do not assume you [pheromones](https://a314.com/) will work on the intended target…sometimes they don’t, sucks but it’s true…and just because you’re not hoping for target B, it doesn’t mean it won’t effect her as well. Pheromones do not know what you want, it’s a shotgun blast and will hit everyone whether you’re interested in them or not.) I fully expected the hand on my shoulder to be the sisters best friend that I was actually focusing on, it wasn’t. It was the sister. As I said all the girls were cute, so I wasn’t disappointed, just surprised. Anyway I looked at her I very playfully reminded her that she was JUST at the snack booth and that I never share a Reeces cup. She gives me a “pleeeeeease, I’ll give you a massage” And she starts giving me a neck rub. The brother is of course complaining about how she’s embarrassing him. I explain that there’s nothing to be embarrassed about because she’s doing a good job. I hand her a reeces cup and turn back to the screen FUCK I MISSED THE GODDAMN TRANSFORMERS TRAILER!!! still on the previews the girl asks if I want some popcorn. I turn to my friends kid and jokingly say “Oh my GAWD don’t you hate it when people can’t stop talking during a movie?” The girl giggles a bit and says “The movie hasn’t even started yet and you’re being a jerk (YESSSSSSS) you shared your candy and I wan’t to share some popcorn.” Lesson of the day guys the AFC move would be to say yes and get a handful of popcorn and turn back around to eat it…no no no. I say "Do you realize the problem with the logistics here? She looks at me puzzled. “Popcorn is highly addictive, if I start I won’t be able to stop, and then I’ll have to keep turning around to get more and I’ll miss the movie” She picked up on the hidden invite and sure as shit climbed over the seats and plops down next to me, grabs my hand puts it in the bucket. This mix is very attractive, I can tell it’s different than 301, but it’s hard to place. I’m certain there’s a more playful element to it where as 301 was more of a serious…almost romantic vibe. Steve assures me there’s no P86 in it but something in there makes it a strong kino initiator. Only MX297 has gotten me so much kino. It’s definitely social as hell. I haven’t had negative reactions from men at all so whatever None is in there it’s very well balanced and buffered. Anyway, the movie was a wash, I was too busy playing with the girl to pay much attention to it. We made out a little, then stopped for coffee after the movie before swapping numbers and going our separate ways. There’s more to report but I’ll add that later tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/2 "2011-07-22T06:26:46Z")
aaah if wishes were horses I would be wearing some ICM2 this weekend ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/3 "2011-07-22T09:15:05Z")
Radmeister, you should seriously consider becoming a pua teacher of sorts. Write a book or something. It’s not that you don’t enjoy helping people. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 12:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/4 "2011-07-22T12:18:48Z")
> [@Aghor](#): > > aaah if wishes were horses I would be wearing some ICM2 this weekend ☹ You have horses? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/5 "2011-07-22T14:09:09Z")
Day 3 Borders Bookstore Went in to browse around, not wearing mones at the time but had my bottle of ICM with me just in case. Looked around and saw two potential targets so I went to the mens room and applied two sprays and gave the mones a minute to dry down. Went back out considered the targets, Target 1 was hispanic, about mid to late 20’s, heavily inked and with very large and obviously fake breasts. Target two caucasian, very tall (probably about 5’9) slender but with a nice butt. I decided to open the latina bad girl. (Main reasons being that so far ICM has been a very social attraction mix and hasn’t shown signs I usually associate with a super high None mix. I figure a latin woman in her mid 20’s would be naturally receptive to high None, factor in the fake boobs as a sign of being comfortable with her sexuality and the tattoo’s as a sign of being aggressive and a little tough and I figure something too nice guy might blow out) so yeah I went in half expecting this mix to be too nice guy for a girl like this. She was wearing cut off shorts, and a tank top about two sizes too small. I walk up and stand close to her pretending to be looking at the books. I open with “So have you ever thought about getting one of those kindle/e-reader type gizmo’s?” I check from the corner of my eye and she was already looking at me before I opened. She says that she’s never thought about it. and I say “See several of my buddy Rob was given one by his girlfriend and he loves it. Says I should get one since I have so many books I can have my whole collection in e format and carry it around. Thing is, I’m a sensory type of person…I actually like feeling the texture of the pages when I read a new book and I think reading on a screen loses something.” The girl responds “I can see that, it’s like the difference between porn and real sex” Now this surprises me, I don’t usually get women escalating a convo to topics regarding sex right off the bat. I laugh and she blushes a little apologizing if she offended me. I tell her that I’m not offended but that she should be careful because not every guy she hits on will be as progressive thinking as I am. She gives me a “oh please” sorta look that I play off and change the subject quickly to ask what she’s reading. She shows me a fitness book that she was looking at and then starts to walk away. I stand there for a sec and she comes back and hands me another book. A book on bondage and S&M (SCORE). She asks me if I’m scared of her yet. I say well considering I used to kickbox and am currently training with some guys for a mud run I probably know more about fitness than what’s in the book she showed me and I suggest that I would be happy to train her if she could afford me and that my ex girlfriend owned the same bondage book she just showed me. She immediately skips any topics about fitness and goes straight to the bondage stuff. Asking me if I was a Dom or a sub, what sorta stuff we did together, how long the relationship lasted and why it ended etc. I explain that I was a Dom and that the ex just couldn’t measure up to my impossibly high standards and that I’m a womans nightmare because I’m so high maintanance. I note pupil dialation and in spite of the bookstore being very well air conditioned, the exposed skin around her cleavage was glistning a little indicating elevated body temperature. I throw a few screening questions her way, and get some compliance by having her follow me around the store and temporarily hold books for me while I thumb through others. She explains that she’s waiting for her ride and was going to have some coffee but would love to hear more about my…escapades. I tell her that if she buys the first cup I’ll stick around. She smiles and agrees but only after playfully punching me in the chest. We sit and have coffee, trade questions back and forth. I’m liking the frame that’s being created because all of her questions were based on sex while mine were about anything but. As a precautionary measure though I had to make sure not to let her think I’m a friend zone quality guy so at one point while she’s taking a drink I very obviously let my eyes drift to her breasts. Everything went quiet for a minute while she watched me stare and she says “uh what are you looking at?” I lift my hand in a “stop” signal and tell her “hold on a sec I’m not done” continue looking for 5 more seconds and then re establish eye contact and say “ok you were saying?” She laughed her ass off 😉 She looks up and makes an exaggerated sad face and tells me her ride is here. I turn around and it’s an older version of her (turned out to be her milfy as hell mom) complete with almost as many tattoo’s and even bigger fake boobs. DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN. Anyway the girl writes her number down on a napkin and swears that if I don’t call that she’ll kick my ass. I scold her and tell her I like strong women, but not too strong…she actually kinda toned down and said sorry in a girly voice that really didn’t fit the sex freak look she had. I smirk and say “That’s better, I may actually call you now” Summation, I was worried based on the positive social effects that the mix wouldn’t be sexual or macho enough but I got no inidcation of this being the case. When used on a woman that’s obviously a “high None lover” the sexual escalation happens rather quickly and a dominant frame is readilly accepted. Again it still feels very playful, again there seems to be a disinhibitor in there and I want to say there’s a “most interesting man in the world” vibe…as it seems I get a lot of q&a and looks of rapt attention when I speak. More to come. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/6 "2011-07-22T16:52:29Z")
great reports man. Interesting, I thought maybe I was off or not seeing something different, but every time I tested this I seemed to go into that “comfort” stage with women so easily. I never got a highly sexual vibe from it, of course that may not be its intended use…but I was thinking Steve made this, its gotta be some kind of magic fuck juice. But then of course, if you can get women to be so comfortable around you, feeling so good, and you got the escalation game down, you can lead it any direction you want to. I’ve worn it in a number of different scenarios, and will be posting reports soon. I’m off today and planning on sticking around the house to take care of personal biz like posting reports…LOL ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/7 "2011-07-22T19:48:28Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > great reports man. Interesting, I thought maybe I was off or not seeing something different, but every time I tested this I seemed to go into that “comfort” stage with women so easily. I never got a highly sexual vibe from it, of course that may not be its intended use…but I was thinking Steve made this, its gotta be some kind of magic fuck juice. But then of course, if you can get women to be so comfortable around you, feeling so good, and you got the escalation game down, you can lead it any direction you want to. > > I’ve worn it in a number of different scenarios, and will be posting reports soon. I’m off today and planning on sticking around the house to take care of personal biz like posting reports…LOL I do like how Rad’s use of the prolonged boob stare worked quite nicely. I was thinking that given the buddy buddy vibe I got from this with a guy, I can see how the comfort stage can be progressed to quite quickly, but without some form of effort from the wearer, I can also see the potential for friend zoning. Another example of the wearing needing to do some work. @Rad: Dood, as always, I love reading your reports. Good stuff 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/8 "2011-07-23T03:05:36Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > This mix is very attractive, **I can tell it’s different than 301, but it’s hard to place. I’m certain there’s a more playful element to it where as 301 was more of a serious…almost romantic vibe**. Steve assures me there’s **no P86** in it but something in there makes it a strong kino initiator. **Only MX297 has gotten me so much kino**. It’s definitely social as hell. I haven’t had negative reactions from men at all so whatever None is in there it’s very well balanced and buffered. Its the p91 😃 Really good stuff when its paired right. Steve has confirmed it in another thread. He also thinks that [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is mostly P91 further adding to the case ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/9 "2011-07-23T03:46:51Z")
I had no clue what was in there. I haven’t played with any putatives as standalones yet. ---
**Author:** ![extraballislit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extraballislit/32/712_2.png) [@extraballislit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extraballislit)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/10 "2011-07-23T23:09:02Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Its the p91 😃 Really good stuff when its paired right. > > Steve has confirmed it in another thread. He also thinks that MX297 is mostly P91 further adding to the case Anyone knows what else doex MX 297 contains? Thanks. Talk to you soon. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/11 "2011-07-25T18:45:57Z")
We need more ICM 2.0 STEEEVVEEEEEE!!! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/12 "2011-07-25T19:46:19Z")
I still have bottles for sale if anyone is interested. Just check my listing in the trading post thread. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/13 "2011-07-25T22:12:15Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I still have bottles for sale if anyone is interested. Just check my listing in the trading post thread. Say what ?! I am going to buy some from you. If it somehow aides me significantly in my endeavors, I will fly to the US and be your butler for a week. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/14 "2011-07-25T22:28:31Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > Say what ?! I am going to buy some from you. If it somehow aides me significantly in my endeavors, I will fly to the US and be your butler for a week. You might be watching to many Sienfeld reruns 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![extremetestosterone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@extremetestosterone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extremetestosterone)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-rad-reports-on-icm-2-0/51349/15 "2011-07-26T16:27:25Z")
> [@](#): > > Radmeister, you should seriously consider becoming a pua teacher of sorts. Write a book or something. I completely agree!!! Rad and Steve should collaborate.