# The Red Report **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 13, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-red-report/13884 "2008-06-13T17:50:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Crimson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crimson/32/2256_2.png) [@Crimson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crimson)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-red-report/13884/1 "2008-06-13T17:50:44Z")
Alright, first off I’m bi, And my very first phero purchases was Mystery Boy. I had a lot of girls sniffing me, fallowing me around and lingering in the company restroom after I used it. And I eventually gained extra attention from male-coworkers. But, from now on I’m going to use it exclusively at the bar scene, because of the success I have using it there. When wanting to attract straight guys who I know might be a little curious, I have had excellent success with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), Instant Shine and Lust after Me. By the way, after sniffing my bottle of LaM it really knocked me on my ass, after pulling myself away from the bottle the scent was still in my head 10 minutes later, like a phero déjà vu. LaM’s scent is a bit strong for me, but I had a pioneer lesbian friend of mine smell it and she almost stole the bottle from me, she was applying it on herself moments after first smelling it. The only way I can describe smelling LaM for me was like a vampire smelling holy water. I had straight guys getting really close and hitting on me, however most of my gay male friends avoided talking to me. Going back to Mystery Boy, it has an alluring masculine pitch and I like it. So I learned when wanting to attract gay men I’ll use Mystery Boy and Instant Shine, and for guys who may be curious I’ll stay away from Androstenone heavy stuff and stick with the Instant Shine and LaM. By the way, I love the way the Instant series smells, especially Shine. Sniffing a bottle makes my eyes roll to the back of my head, seriously. Well my bottle of Spaceland and Instant Shine arrived. I was hoping to use them as an inhibition relaxer for people around me. But, even if that doesn’t work, I’m sure I’ll find an application for Spaceland in my life. And I’ll accept recommendations to my use of pheros. ---
**Author:** ![Edx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4da419/32.png) [@Edx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Edx)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-red-report/13884/2 "2008-06-13T20:09:10Z")
I was wondering, what makes [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) so “gay”? ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-red-report/13884/3 "2008-06-13T21:29:04Z")
Rep points for a good post. there are not a lot of posts about MB. It’s good to see somebody using it! Tell us more about it. There are often posts from guys asking about it but no one who’s used it that can give good answers. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-red-report/13884/4 "2008-06-13T21:33:20Z")
> [@Edx](#): > > I was wondering, what makes Mystery Boy so “gay”? I guess it is the more girly products like tah, and some components of [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-red-report/13884/5 "2008-06-14T05:02:04Z")
> [@Edx](#): > > I was wondering, what makes Mystery Boy so “gay”? Ratios of pheromones? Gays are not attracted to androsterone like women, they are attracted to etiocholanone moreso. Also, gays are usually attracted to androstadienone ( instant female magic ), whereas straight men usually are not (in fact some straight men react negatively to it). Gays are not attracted to pheromones such as EST, and I doubt they would be attracted to TAH and so forth. > [@A1, EST in straight men, gay men and women](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-est-in-straight-men-gay-men-and-women/80): > > [http://www.mindfully.org/Health/2005/Pheromone-Brain-Response17may05.htm](http://www.mindfully.org/Health/2005/Pheromone-Brain-Response17may05.htm) The testosterone derivative 4,16-androstadien-3-one (AND) and the estrogen-like steroid estra-1,3,5(10),16-tetraen-3-ol (EST) are candidate compounds for human pheromones. AND is detected primarily in male sweat, whereas EST has been found in female urine. In a previous positron emission tomography study, we found that smelling AND and EST activated regions covering sexually dimorphic nuclei of the anterior hypot… Androstenols are attractive to everybody, particularly to women (and from what I’ve read, it stands to reason, gays as well). Men make more androstenols than women, and the attraction is not exclusively sexual in nature since androstenols also signal to men as well. I found out most of this stuff by trying to research my idiosyncratic reaction to [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) (it makes me down, moody, I’m not a big fan esp. without other pheromones). I read alot of abstracts, such as the one above. Also, a man wearing copulins (many female pheromone products) will never come across as a woman due to physical appearances and body chemistry, I really doubt any heterosexual guy would sleep with a man just because they wore copulins, though copulins most definitely produces interest in men in general and lots of non-sexual IOI’s. He’ll be percieved, depending on the ratios, as just a guy with “social proofing”, or if it’s high enough, a player or dirtbag/jerk. In fact, depending on what else you wore and the social setting, it could provoke a very negative reaction (read SteveO’s accounts of wearing Dirty, for instance). I can also imagine a completely bizarre reaction taking place, and possibly a person being sexually aroused, but it might also produce a hostile reaction, especially if the person is even mildly homophobic and you are obviously “hitting on them”. “Playing with fire” comes to mind, and also goes back to Renny’s sticky on _congruency_ in the theory section. [Congruence? What's That?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/congruence-whats-that/9805/1) I wore copulins for several days going to shopping malls and never felt I got any sexual interest from men. They usually either stared at me a bit, usually a hard stare with no smiles or even a slight frown (especially older looking men), or they reacted completely normally. Women, OTOH, never seemed to react negatively at all. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 5:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-red-report/13884/6 "2008-06-14T05:37:02Z")
> [@renny](#): > > _ **Rep points for a good post. there are not a lot of posts about MB. It’s good to see somebody using it! Tell us more about it. There are often posts from guys asking about it but no one who’s used it that can give good answers.** _ What “Da Man” said. 😉 Reps! 🙂