# The Shocker Strikes Again **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 25, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018 "2010-04-25T14:52:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/1 "2010-04-25T14:52:03Z")
Had a crazzzzzyyyyy time last night. I went to a formal dinner/dancing party (kind of like a prom) for my school. I went with my Shocker mix. 2 drops A314 7.5mcg TUTH 50mcg p83 75mcg A1 200mcg Meo-Est TUTH, CTTM to-gos – 1 spray TUTH and 2 CTTM about 4-5 hours after initial applications. Everything was to the neck (front, back, sides) because I had a suit on and that was the only option I had lol. Gelled hair doesn’t like to disperse mones very well. Self Effects: I’m gonna have to quote Ludacris on this one: “I pulled up with a million trucks. Looking, smelling, feeling like a million bucks, ahh!” I felt simply amazing. I was in a great mood beforehand, but this really topped it all off. I just felt…smoooth. It was like I knew nothing could go wrong tonight. That everything would be on point and that I would be the star. I was right 😉. Effects on Others: I drove there with a friend of mine, and the event started at 6:30, but we didn’t get there until about 7:30ish. We walked in, saw a bunch of people we knew, and started mingling. I noticed that people really lit up when talking to me. All the guys gave me bro hugs, which they never do, and all the girls gave me super tight hugs. A few of the girls dug their noses into my neck 😛. I got compliments left and right, and while I was dressed very nicely, it was still much more than would be expected just for dressing nice. So we started walking into the banquet hall and it seemed that everyone had already found a table to sit at, and very few spots were still open. Well, this wasn’t a problem for me because I had literally 3 different tables of people fighting over having me sit with them. At this point all I could think was “LOLWTF, I knew people liked me, but not this much!” The night was filled with hits, both subtle and outlandishly obvious, so I’ll try to trim the fat off of it otherwise it’ll be another 5 page report 😃. Once the dinner ended and faculty/administration left, the music started and everyone hit the dance floor. I honestly felt like I was a celebrity. 2 girls basically ran to my table once the music went on, and while I was being dragged to the dance floor I saw 2 other girls that had been walking over to me, but stopped when they saw me heading to the floor and then ran over to join. At one point I had 4 girls grinding on me on every side, with some guys cheering me on and some watching with pure jealousy 🆒. I wanted to step it up a notch and make it more personal, so I took one of the girls’ hands and pulled her to a different spot of the dancefloor so it could be just us two. We danced for a while and a couple other girls tried to take my hand and pull me away in the middle of it, but I just told them “we’ll dance later” and stayed with the same girl. Now I don’t know if any of you remember my report from a couple weeks ago about the two girls dancing on me at C’s bday party, but the girl I was dancing with (we’ll call her P) was one of the girls from that night. The other girl from that night (K) was one of these girls trying to pull me away. K even tried pulling one of my best friends and dancing with him, literally right in front of me and P just to make me jealous, but when I started cheering them on she realized it wasn’t working and just walked away haha. Report is getting long (sorry!) so I’ll cut it here. I’ll leave it with this. Got invited to a bunch of after parties, ended up at one with P, and things went…very well 😉. I’ll let your imaginations take you where they want to. Conclusions: I sound like a broken record, but this mix really never fails. I was expecting it to be a hit, but I had no idea it would hit this big. I’m actually pretty surprised I didn’t phero bomb like crazy with a -none OD. I don’t know how fast meo-est breaks down, or what it breaks down into, but with A1 it really buffered everything perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/2 "2010-04-25T14:58:55Z")
damn scotties they should make the shocker into an mx series would you say that lacking the usual EOW effected it negatively too much? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/3 "2010-04-25T15:04:43Z")
> [@Razorpowell](#): > > damn scotties they should make the shocker into an mx series > would you say that lacking the usual EOW effected it negatively too much? I actually think that leaving it out worked in my favor this time. Usually I wear EoW as instant social proofing before going to bars and clubs. It’s good to use around random women you don’t really know. I figured, because the girls at this dance already know me, I don’t want to come off as a player, just as a guy having fun, so I left the EoW out on purpose. It’s definitely a great [pheromone](https://a314.com/) when used properly, but it can also work against you when used in the wrong situations. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/4 "2010-04-25T18:02:20Z")
You know I think it would be really cool if Androtics actually made the Shocker into an MX but since it contains A1 and EOW (both of which aren’t sold here) it probably won’t happen.☹ Scottie I’m actually glad you did this because I was always wondering if just how many shots of TUTH a guy could get away with when paired with A1 😮. Judging from your report, it seems you didn’t come off too light, or too heavy so it seems everything was balanced out perfectly. Good shit bruh.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/5 "2010-04-25T18:37:31Z")
wow. that is a lot of pheoros, haha. Surprised it doesn’t lead one to have some kind of parkinsonian or schizopherenic symptoms. I am sure all that should disrupt dopamine, GABA, and other neurotransmitters balance in some way… ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/6 "2010-04-25T19:13:19Z")
> [@Razorpowell](#): > > damn scotties they should make the shocker into an mx series > would you say that lacking the usual EOW effected it negatively too much? Won’t happen unless he drops the A1. Androtics doesn’t produce/sell A1 anymore. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/7 "2010-04-25T19:42:11Z")
I’ve had similar results without using A1. the A1 definitely adds another level of comfort, but 150-200mcg Meo-Est has proven to be enough buffer in past experiments. If anyone has these ingredients I suggest they give it a try. ---
**Author:** ![walkitout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5daacb/32.png) [@walkitout](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/walkitout)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/8 "2010-04-25T20:23:58Z")
If you dont mind me asking, how old are you? Im just curious as to how much this mix would work with some younger people. Seems like a really really good mix. Also, what exactly is A1’s effect, Meo -est (and what is that lol), and the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). If possible, Id also like to know how well the effects of these mones work for the 17ish year old range, as there is not much info on them. Thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/9 "2010-04-25T20:59:11Z")
K-train made an awesome guide for A1: > [@Androstadienone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668): > > I’ve been thinking about doing this for the longest time but recent events have finally pushed me to do this. In an effort to cut down on the repeated questions, but at the same time encourage more result oriented posts I am making this A-1 guide. Please remember I am NOT a scientist, but merely a tester who is reporting what he’s seen and also info gathered from other fellow members. Table of Contents Section 1: What is A-1? Section 2: What are the effects of A-1? Section 3: When is the bes… Meo-Est ([Methoxyestratetraenone :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://phera.com/)) tends to have a calming and relaxing effect on women, and i actually get this as a self effect to. Makes me very relaxed, and a bit spacey and forgetful. p83 is a disinhibitor and tends to make people more willing to act on something. I have no idea how any of these work on that young of an age group. I’ve only tested it on the 20s crowd and clubs and bars. But I do know that younger girls are more sensitive to -none and my mix may have a bit too much -none for them to be comfortable with, but I don’t know for sure. If you are new to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) you may want to hold off from using this mix for a little bit. At least until you have a solid understanding of how the molecules work. That way you can tweak the mix as needed and you’ll be able to understand why and how the ratios need to be changed depending on your target. ---
**Author:** ![Marko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@Marko](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/10 "2010-04-26T06:27:57Z")
is p83 a must? I have everything else ---
**Author:** ![walkitout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5daacb/32.png) [@walkitout](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/walkitout)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/11 "2010-04-26T06:48:08Z")
Im shocked that Meo- [Est](https://phera.com/) costs so much. Why?!? Im also shocked at the effects of p83. Seems like I need some of that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/12 "2010-04-26T12:57:47Z")
> [@Marko](#): > > is p83 a must? I have everything else You can try it without the p83. I’m sure it will still be effective, but the reason I like p83 is because it seems to make things progress quicker. It’s like instead of going from thinking they want to touch you and then touching you, they go straight to touching you. Of course I don’t know if this is what’s actually happening, but it’s what it seems like based on my experiences with p83. > [@walkitout](#): > > Im shocked that Meo- [Est](https://phera.com/) costs so much. Why?!? > > Im also shocked at the effects of p83. Seems like I need some of that 🙂 It’s cheaper for reporting users. ---
**Author:** ![apexi1100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@apexi1100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/apexi1100)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/13 "2010-05-11T03:27:46Z")
I’ll try something similar. I seem to have better effects around 150mcgs of meo-est. I only lack a-1 so we’ll see. I also have p83 in 15mcgs/spray so I’ll use a tad more. I’ll report after tomorrow. I have an awards banquet to go to so I really don’t know the crowd but will still be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/14 "2010-05-11T14:26:51Z")
150mcg should work fine. Usually if I add meo-est to the mix (sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t) it’s anywhere between 100-200mcg. Be sure to let us know how it goes! ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/15 "2010-06-20T21:10:38Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > 150mcg should work fine. Usually if I add meo-est to the mix (sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t) it’s anywhere between 100-200mcg. Be sure to let us know how it goes! Scotty, you must have a 30ml bottle of Meo-Est @ 50mcgs a spray right? Or it seems a bottle would go pretty quick for $200 plus dollars…? ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/16 "2010-06-20T21:31:40Z")
it’s $14 to start with for those with RU status ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/17 "2010-06-20T21:40:53Z")
> [@Razorpowell](#): > > it’s $14 to start with for those with RU status Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 5:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/18 "2010-12-17T05:48:38Z")
Would this mix work outside of a bar/club setting? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/19 "2010-12-17T06:01:58Z")
> [@Jstn](#): > > Would this mix work outside of a bar/club setting? Why are you bumping up old threads? do yo have our permission? You can only do that after earning your privilege, which is 250 + rep points and 1000+ posts [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/f/f9d45ac8ad82d28b20d336e50271a4271b011c9d.gif) ](https://edge.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/meanie.gif) kidding! hehe You mean at school? probably not - maybe house parties… i would lower A314 and definitely tuth though.. Plus, Meo-Est is carcinogenic. Are you that crazy enough to spray 200 mcg of it just to get laid once? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018/20 "2010-12-17T09:00:36Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > Why are you bumping up old threads? do yo have our permission? > You can only do that after earning your privilege, which is 250 + rep points and 1000+ posts > > [http://img2.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/meanie.gif](http://img2.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/meanie.gif) > > kidding! hehe > > You mean at school? probably not - maybe house parties… i would lower A314 and definitely tuth though.. > > Plus, Meo-Est is carcinogenic. Are you that crazy enough to spray 200 mcg of it just to get laid once? 😮 Wait a sec…I missed this one. When did you find out and how do you know MEO-EST is carcinogenic? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-shocker-strikes-again/38018.md?page=2)