# The Two Part Killer Mix **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 11, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604 "2009-07-11T10:41:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/1 "2009-07-11T10:41:10Z")
After working on such a complex pheromone mix as Panty Scorcher is, I decided to try going the other direction. Just two [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)… which two would produce the sexiest results? It comes down to Androstenone and Beta Androstenol. This first test was to determine whether beta nol could buffer massive amounts of androstenone. I wore 20 mcg of each. Beta nol is easily the buffering equal of an equivalent amount of androstenone. I went to wal mart to go shopping, but since it was 3 am when I went, I only had a chance to see how it affected one person, my cashier. Cashier was Rodney, a black guy in his mid fifties. I separated my stuff into two orders to slow things down and see if I could not get a response from him. They were not large orders, but by the time I got out of there we were palling around like old friends, and he was telling me about his learning macine language in the 1970’s during his training as an electrician. I have had Rodney work with me in the past, but this time there was a sense of almost awe from him, as if he was in the presence of someone very impressive. There was an almost tangible and growing feeling of respect from him. Unfortunately, I did not cross paths with any ladies, but I have been sitting here working since and have noticed that the beta nol has me a little spacey, but there is no aggression or negativity as androstenone would have by itself. Mind you, alone I can only tolerate 2.0 mcg of pure androstenone. I am thinking this could be interesting if I were to add a nice kick of TAL, as well. The beta nol is possibly too much… there’s not enough androstenone aggressiveness coming through. I am genuinely surprised how well beta nol buffers none. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/2 "2009-07-11T11:01:48Z")
Definitely, what about working your way to half of the original dose you used for Betanol and then see if that works? If the -none still isn’t coming through, then try less than half. Or as sensitive as I know you are to -none dare I say up the -none to 30 mcg? Betanol _really_ adds that extra comfort that Alphanol lacks, so that’s why I use Alphanol mostly to have the -none still come through, but yet still make you open. However, I can see where you’re going with this as obviously you want comfort. Can’t wait to hear more. > [@catlord17](#): > > After working on such a complex pheromone mix as Panty Scorcher is, I decided to try going the other direction. Just two pheromones… which two would produce the sexiest results? > > It comes down to Androstenone and Beta Androstenol. > > This first test was to determine whether beta nol could buffer massive amounts of androstenone. I wore 20 mcg of each. Beta nol is easily the buffering equal of an equivalent amount of androstenone. I went to wal mart to go shopping, but since it was 3 am when I went, I only had a chance to see how it affected one person, my cashier. > > Cashier was Rodney, a black guy in his mid fifties. I separated my stuff into two orders to slow things down and see if I could not get a response from him. They were not large orders, but by the time I got out of there we were palling around like old friends, and he was telling me about his learning macine language in the 1970’s during his training as an electrician. > > I have had Rodney work with me in the past, but this time there was a sense of almost awe from him, as if he was in the presence of someone very impressive. There was an almost tangible and growing feeling of respect from him. > > Unfortunately, I did not cross paths with any ladies, but I have been sitting here working since and have noticed that the beta nol has me a little spacey, but there is no aggression or negativity as androstenone would have by itself. Mind you, alone I can only tolerate 2.0 mcg of pure androstenone. > > I am thinking this could be interesting if I were to add a nice kick of TAL, as well. The beta nol is possibly too much… there’s not enough androstenone aggressiveness coming through. I am genuinely surprised how well beta nol buffers none. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/3 "2009-07-12T03:00:42Z")
Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/4 "2009-07-13T08:02:20Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Definitely, what about working your way to half of the original dose you used for Betanol and then see if that works? If the -none still isn’t coming through, then try less than half. Or as sensitive as I know you are to -none dare I say up the -none to 30 mcg? > > Betanol _really_ adds that extra comfort that Alphanol lacks, so that’s why I use Alphanol mostly to have the -none still come through, but yet still make you open. However, I can see where you’re going with this as obviously you want comfort. Can’t wait to hear more. More than comfort, I want inability to deny the other reactions. lol Comfort is good too. I think I am going to try this mix next: 20 mcg none 15 mcg beta nol 7.5 mcg TAL ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/5 "2009-07-13T08:45:33Z")
Not sure what TAL does since I haven’t touched T’s yet or read much about them, but can’t wait to hear if cutting down the Betanol a bit allows some -none sexuality to shine through for you. > [@catlord17](#): > > More than comfort, I want inability to deny the other reactions. lol Comfort is good too. I think I am going to try this mix next: > > 20 mcg none > 15 mcg beta nol > 7.5 mcg TAL ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/6 "2009-07-13T09:27:15Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Not sure what TAL does since I haven’t touched T’s yet or read much about them, but can’t wait to hear if cutting down the Betanol a bit allows some -none sexuality to shine through for you. If I remember correctly, TAL is a female [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) that kinda inhibits women a little by making them more ‘straight forward’. It’s the main ingredient in one of the Instant Sexiness mixes - the one that projects an alpha female image. For men it can be useful to help the ladies open up a little easier - I guess especially the shy ones… ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/7 "2009-07-13T09:53:17Z")
TAL does not inhibit women, it helps to disinhibit them in a way and makes them more confident and aggressive. More likely to act on their desires and feelings. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/8 "2009-07-13T10:10:17Z")
Ooo, then it sounds like the beginning of a good mix so far. Comfortable feelings, disinhibition, and sexual aggressiveness. I’m in! > [@catlord17](#): > > TAL does not inhibit women, it helps to disinhibit them in a way and makes them more confident and aggressive. More likely to act on their desires and feelings. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/9 "2009-07-13T10:12:29Z")
If we’re going to keep this simple, that’s not the beginnings of the mix, that is the mix. lol Disclaimer: This formula has not been optimized with my calculator AT ALL. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/10 "2009-07-13T10:19:13Z")
True, very true. And good basic components you have chosen cat, now me thinks it’s time you get that calc ready and punch numbers. Sometimes basic little three ingredient mixes are pretty effective coupled with a killer scent. > [@catlord17](#): > > If we’re going to keep this simple, that’s not the beginnings of the mix, that is the mix. lol > > Disclaimer: This formula has not been optimized with my calculator AT ALL. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/11 "2009-07-13T10:28:00Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > True, very true. And good basic components you have chosen cat, now me thinks it’s time you get that calc ready and punch numbers. Sometimes basic little three ingredient mixes are pretty effective coupled with a killer scent. Punching numbers isn’t as much fun as experimenting. Get out there and report on your findings, mikoto! Let’s experiment. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/12 "2009-07-13T10:39:11Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > TAL does not inhibit women, it helps to disinhibit them in a way and makes them more confident and aggressive. More likely to act on their desires and feelings. Yaa, sorry, disinhibit was what I was meaning to say! Damn english! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/13 "2009-07-13T10:48:57Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Disclaimer: This formula has not been optimized with my calculator AT ALL. I’ve always wondered: How is that calculator working anyway? And what does it calculate and on what basis? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/14 "2009-07-13T10:53:45Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > I’ve always wondered: How is that calculator working anyway? And what does it calculate and on what basis? You have great questions! 😃 I’m off to test my suggested mix. 🙂 Feel free to join in and test it too. ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/15 "2009-07-13T11:18:03Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > You have great questions! 😃 Sad that I can’t say the same about your answers to them! 😃 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/16 "2009-07-13T21:05:37Z")
Ah, I just wish I had the TAL. I don’t have straight ExperiMone -none, but I do have various -none products like [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) oil, NPA (but that has something else in it I’m sure,) TUTH, and Raw Power test pack. Would this be OK, or would straight -none be a better choice catlord? I’m very curious to try this out, but too bad the 20 mcg of Betanol didn’t work out for you cat, because that high dose of Betanol would be awesome to induce spillage of hidden emotions a woman may have for you (hopefully good ones.) And with the TAL, I can see increase inhibition being very possible, plus a triple whammy with the -none. However, I’m sure the 15 mcg of Betanol is still enough to cause that effect I’m sure. I can see this mix working very well for guys who need a little help bringing out the possible hidden emotions she may have for said guy, and possibly even help comfort her and help break the ice to have her come out of a possible shell. > [@catlord17](#): > > Punching numbers isn’t as much fun as experimenting. Get out there and report on your findings, mikoto! Let’s experiment. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/17 "2009-07-13T23:49:27Z")
TUTH could probably work in a pinch, I’m pretty sure it’s fairly minimal with reagards to what else is in there, but it sounds like you’d have to really layer it on to get to where this mix is going. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-two-part-killer-mix/30604/18 "2009-07-14T00:00:22Z")
Right on marty, always helpful as usual. > [@marty](#): > > TUTH could probably work in a pinch, I’m pretty sure it’s fairly minimal with reagards to what else is in there, but it sounds like you’d have to really layer it on to get to where this mix is going.