# The Un-Official- A314 Revision 32 Results Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 8, 2013, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-un-official-a314-revision-32-results-thread/59746 "2013-08-08T08:25:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 94
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For example, I feel that AMMO benefits from a coarse synthesis of -enone. It isn’t the same as ExperiMone or TUTH. So, to formulate new A314’s, that would be by spray. They might have stocks of -erone from different split tests. If it uses a published but non-analytical-standard synthesis (an alternative to formal/lengthy), then the supplies might be stable. If you want coarse, the chemist has to be personally experienced in the “one-pot-type” process and be able to supply it. Consider the P88/P93 dilemma. Below are two synthesis paths for ibuprofen. You see that one won a chemistry prize in 1997. [Ibuprofen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibuprofen#Synthesis) The challenges Androtics has experienced with aging and dying chemists are not mythical. For example, I an looking at Pub Med abstracts. One of the top men, who died in 2012, has over 100 co-authored abstracts! How many academics have 100 published papers in a CV? Now that guy, he will probably have an endowed chair or ACS scholarship named after him. So, it takes years of study to master orbital theory and be able to go into the lab and “cook” a new pheromone recipe, based upon Woodward rules and so on. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/a/a1760895f6a5c116d6f4e4e1a033eb5550ceb1ea.png) So, in my experiments, a conjecture that photochemistry is a much bigger factor than bacteria in pheromone usage. If someone here has a good foundation in that, we might just be able to start a minor revolution on phero boards. The ultimate point is that standard synthesis is expensive but always consistent. The Experimone used in medical research. The statistical results tables will be the same and can be reproduced. So, previous formulas can be restocked using analytical standard molecules. But if the supply chain for old stuff is gone or cost prohibitive, it’s gone. I would be in favor of reviving MX347 experiments. What needs to happen is for people to wear A314B and pair it with just 1 mcg of 1 single molecule. Matrix testing. 314 + P75 314 + P83 etc, etc 1 mcg of putative, in neroli. 1 putative only. If it enhances 314, make it an MX. Mathematically, it takes many man-hours. 10 putatives chosen at random each at 12.5 mcg in a mix of 3 yields 1000 permutations. P75 P83 P79 P75 P83 P81 P75 P75 P79 (25 mcg p75 + 12.5 p79) * * * After the comments I read from 2000GT last week directed at Nick and other staff here…honestly…if I were Harris, I wouldn’t want to climb into the gutter of “Pheromone Community” sewage either. > [@very disapointed](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-disapointed/31477): > > Where is instant female magic, and where is A314. Of all the pheros I want to order, these two are on top of my list. And I don’t want to get them in several orders as I live in Canada and its just a hassle. So seriously where are they, when will they be available? I really don’t want to order the A314 from love scents because again that will be two orders and plus their A314 is the older version. Does anyone know when they will be in especially A314?? So as not to libel anyone, I can only say there are unspecified people/vendors “in the community” who think they are being clever and that everyone is a dupe. I got my eye on 'em. I ain’t fooled. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-un-official-a314-revision-32-results-thread/59746)._