# The unseen stats **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 9, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-unseen-stats/56351 "2012-08-09T23:17:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![russmatthess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e0b2c6/32.png) [@russmatthess](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/russmatthess)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-unseen-stats/56351/1 "2012-08-09T23:17:38Z")
I have been reading a number of journals since I joined a few days ago. I have yet to order anything due to my skepticism and one thing I keep going over in my head journal after journal; in relation to IOIs and other elusive signs of attraction, how much is the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) doing as opposed to who you are physically, i.e. you get lots of hit and IOIs, people take an interest in you…but now what do you look like? Do you have 6 packs abs, do you have a small waist with no extra weight? Do you dress like you have a little $$ on you? (and you can argue till your blue in the face looks matter to women just as much as guys - after living in Miami and Vegas you can’t convince me other wise) Seems to me a slim or average build guy with minor flaws here and there would be just fine in using a little edge with these products. Does the average middle age guy not in the greatest of shape actually have a slight chance improving his image or altering his perception to others even slightly with applying these chemicals? Or is it just a simple law of human behavior that if you fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down that no pheromone can help alleviate your ugliness? You master mixologists let me know your thoughts, how was life before mones and at what point did life go 180 degrees for the better for you? Thanks for reading. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-unseen-stats/56351/2 "2012-08-09T23:27:46Z")
I will put it this way, try [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) and **try** to not have fun and be the life of the party. Or A314 and **try** to not walk around confident and sure of yourself. Or Ammo and not get the older ladies hitting on you. For guys who get hit on, or get IOI’s things become more blatant. Or the feel different. Yes, mones effect you as well. I didnt do bad, but having a woman come up to me and start rubbing my freshly shaved head never occurs. A girl following you around a grocery store waiting for you to talk to does not either. A shrewd middle-aged coworker grabbing you and sniffing your neck to find out what and alluring scent is was a first on mones as well. I have not been using long, and the unusual compliments and the self effects are worth their weight in gold. Its not all about slinging ladies, its improving your life for the better. This has been one of my best investments, in myself. I am 21, currently 185 lbs, 5’11’'. I have a spare tire, and work between my jobs no less than 14 hours a day. I eat like crap, am most often covered in sweat, and grimy from work. I can purty up with a blazer, nice jeans, and every few weeks slim down, but I have never used mones when I am like that. I have only used them in my normal day to day, in order to see what works for me and my body. All I say is give A314 or MX297 a try. People will react differently around you. ---
**Author:** ![russmatthess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e0b2c6/32.png) [@russmatthess](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/russmatthess)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-unseen-stats/56351/3 "2012-08-09T23:35:31Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > Its not all about slinging ladies, its improving your life for the better. That is the gospel truth right there I agree and that is my goal. I want to know if professionally I will see a difference in my office for the better, affect people I work with in a positive manner which only enhances my persona. You are correct in that having a woman pay attention to you for no reason and to do so with no reservations is a welcome change I would like to experience. I confess my social life at 43 sucks because my social life in my 20’s sucked even worse, so much so that I quit going out in my 30’s to avoid the awkwardness and game playing. I hope to keep learning and I appreciate your input as it was a great start thank you. ---
**Author:** ![bassically](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@bassically](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bassically)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-unseen-stats/56351/4 "2012-08-10T00:31:07Z")
I think best way to put it is: you look good, you smell good, you feel good. People tend to flock towards upbeat and confident individuals. mones is adding another positive attribute to yourself. Just like cologne. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-unseen-stats/56351/5 "2012-08-10T00:36:24Z")
Pheromones all have different effects, the consumer line on AD are designed to give you easy to use, pre-tested items which will be successful. A314 is the ‘Alpha’ oil. It makes you stand taller, it demands respect. I notice I use superior body language, project my voice better and get people to fold to please me. Its being the man. It is great for work. It also works casually, as the high respect/high status vibe attracts women. A poor social circle is hard to fix, mones will not do the trick on their own. Their is a thread floating around for mones which get hits. Start their for quick results. If you want to improve your social circle, ‘social’ pheromones are in order. Instant Openess, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and MX297 are my personal favorites. Instant Openess is like an ice breaker, Instant Shine is like a healthy glow about you, MX297 is like a party fun vibe. All effective as is. I would go to the journal section and dig up Mobocaster’s journal. He is in a close age range and knows his Pheromones. He does well. If you want pick up, users such as Still18, The Ghost, P51Mustang, and Jabez also have great journals. Coolcat has a thread floating around of killer pick up mix’s for various age ranges. All the users I have mentioned know what they are doing, much more than I, and are a great place to start reading and learning. Steve and the other board staff also are a vast ocean of knowledge and can help. Post a thread in the introduction section, detail yourself, your concerns, what you want mones for, and many quality members will post other fantastic suggestions. You even qualify for a $25 Gift Card for the AD store after posting an introduction. I believe mones work, they do help one of my jobs. A314 helps give me respect in a field you must earn it, and despite being 21 I am able to instruct with true veterans of my craft. Before I had to out work, out preform, out do. Now I can take a step back and students come to me, lessons go smoother, and I get respect for my effort. I cant see respect being a negative reaction. This will improve your life, and your career. Dig around, learn, buy a couple To-Go size samples with your gift card. A314, MX297, and the entire Instant Line as a To-Go product fall under $30, so its practically free to try out, and you get around 40 sprays. A Shot of A314 on your jaw-line, or under your nose, will give you the self effects to feel like a new man, and convince you of these products. Good luck mate, I am a PM away. Every user here is friendly, except for the staff, they are extra friendly (Really, ask the a stupid question, they will answer). ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-unseen-stats/56351/6 "2012-08-10T00:43:41Z")
I agree with the mones certainly not being just about pulling women, but it is a big part of it. I don’t actively do pick up and I don’t play this game that seems to be the ultimate goal in many a man’s life. I like it when things just happen naturally and the mones sure help with that. Wait, that might be a contradiction… I don’t want to use any master conversational techniques and prancing to intrigue a woman, I rather just dab/spray on some lab crafted voodoo sauce for it… Well, that may be true but it feels great. 😃 As for the other aspects like professional and social life, the mones make a huge difference. I simply wouldn’t want to go back to a life without them and I don’t see any reason to do so. And to actually answer the the questions the thread starter had: I’m not a male model by any means but I’ve always been told I look good. Too bad I had such low self esteem that it didn’t sink in until in my 30’s. I’ve been pretty confident for most of my life in other areas but not when it comes to looks. I have been fine with my appearance for the past decade but in the last two years using mones I’ve really started to like it. Now I’m not perplexed when a woman compliments me but rather think that of course she would. This could be due to one of two things or a bit of both: Self effect from the pheros or that I’ve come to expect this behavior from people because it’s happened so many times but there’s no doubt that the mones have made the difference either way. ---
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-unseen-stats/56351/7 "2012-08-10T07:26:32Z")
I am a newbie here. I was extremely skeptical, but I have to say that I no longer am. I am 43, I am decent looking and I do try to keep in shape. I’ve always done ok with women, and to be honest, its not like mones have made me a chick magnet. But I am still learning what works for me. But just the a314 is worth its weight in gold. I am sitting here, at home, no plans yet to go anywhere, and I have some on. Thats how much I love how it makes me feel. The self effect of that one product is more than enough to make it worth it. Eventually I believe I will find a mix/mixes that work for me and my personality type. Will it make someone who “fell off the ugly tree” a chick magnet? probably not. Will it make him feel better, more confident and more desirable? I think the answer is definitely yes. And we can all use a little bit of that.. right?