# thesecret journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [February 29, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561 "2008-02-29T19:21:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/21 "2008-03-26T11:17:07Z")

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WHEW 😃 You go girl, your arsenal is great.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/22 "2008-04-02T21:48:14Z")

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Second test with [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) tonight. I think maybe it needs quite a long time to dry down.. Because my husband asked me what that funny toe-like smell was.😃 I dont think it smells like toes but it has a sour smell, like fruit that is too ripe.. or vinegar… or if you spill wine on your shirt it smells like that…

Is the smell coming only from the cops? My version is scented with ylang-ylang, but i´m wondering if there are other pheromones in Lust after me, or if I am better off with EoW, to escape the ylang-ylang scent, which makes me so sleepy, I can´t wear it during daytime:o ??

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/23 "2008-04-02T22:03:52Z")

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Yes, there is also alpha-nol in LAM, not just cops…

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/24 "2008-04-02T23:22:32Z")

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> [@dolly](#):
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> Yes, there is also Alpha Androstenol in Lust After Me, not just cops…

Isn´t that the phero that makes you chatty?

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**Author:** ![Tealeaves](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tealeaves/32/1293_2.png) [@Tealeaves](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tealeaves)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/25 "2008-04-03T01:33:42Z")

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> The alpha isomer of Androstenol creates a friendly [approachable] impression, and can make the wearer seem less intimidating …

…says [pherolibrary.com](http://pherolibrary.com) 🙂

So:  
copulins = you want me  
alpha androstenol = and I’m open to suggestion 😉

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/26 "2008-04-03T20:07:01Z")

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Since you can´t get EST from Androtics at the time, I was wondering if anyone had tried EST from other companies, and if you know of any differences in strength and dosage? Curious about that one… I had it in my cart, ready to order, and then it suddenly was gone.. Out of stock..😮

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/27 "2008-04-04T00:29:04Z")

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LP’s Cougar and Super Sexy have lots of EST. It’s the first [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) in the lists of ingredients on both mixes. 🙂

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/28 "2008-04-04T12:15:33Z")

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I think my trouble with [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) is over..😃 Today i mixed 12 drops of LAM into 2,5ml of a delicious mild scented essential oil with teatree, lavender and Geranium. I used one of my empty TO-GO bottles, and it sprayed just fine even though it contains oils only. Now I have the mix on my wrists, and I can just bearly smell the cops and the Ylang-Ylang. Great!!😃

Today I received my package of TAA oil, MEO-EST and a big bottle of MX135.  
I put on two drops of TAA oil, one on top of the head and one split between the wrist. After sniffing my wrists a couple of times, I could feel a rush of joy flowing through my body, and I was smiling endlessly 😃 It is completely without scent, so I think I will mix some of it into my LP oils. That will be great!😃 Wow - this is fun!😃

To Tisha - Thanks for using your scissors on my journal a week ago 😛

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/29 "2008-04-04T16:44:12Z")

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Oh, no!!😮 My husband still thinks [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) smells bad!!☹ Even though I had mixed it with other scented oils, he thinks it smells like: “Old cheese, soft fart, and dirty toes…” He really pulls away when I wear it! No lust from this one… What do I do?😮 Pleeease let me return it, so that I can have fun with other products… Or swap with me, someone…! 😛

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/30 "2008-04-05T16:02:55Z")

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Hi, Kitten! I have both the Cougar and the cuddle bunny, and read that they contain EST. I was thinking, since they are fairly new to the pheromone world, there may not be so much in them…? What do you think? I also read a new post over there, that said that the firm they are cooperating with, would spice up the blends in the time to come…🙄 Anyway, I don´t think their blends are very strong yet.. Except for the SUPER maybe. My husband tried it one night, and my nose was glued to his neck… Really sexy!

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/31 "2008-04-05T16:38:36Z")

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> [@thesecret](#):
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> Hi, Kitten! I have both the Cougar and the cuddle bunny, and read that they contain EST. I was thinking, since they are fairly new to the pheromone world, there may not be so much in them…? What do you think? I also read a new post over there, that said that the firm they are cooperating with, would spice up the blends in the time to come…🙄 Anyway, I don´t think their blends are very strong yet.. Except for the SUPER maybe. My husband tried it one night, and my nose was glued to his neck… Really sexy!

Well, I have tried Cougar scented, Cougar add in, and Super sexy add-in. Take it from an experienced phero user…they are POTENT. All of them that I have tried have gotten me over-the-top hits…😉

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/32 "2008-04-05T20:03:55Z")

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That´s great!🙄 And have you also tried EST by itself?

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/33 "2008-04-05T21:45:50Z")

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> [@thesecret](#):
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> That´s great!🙄 And have you also tried EST by itself?

Yes, but Est alone, even in large doses never really did much for me…my man is a big-time cuddler, anyways…BUT, as far as the blends I have tried at LP, I have gotten excellent results with all of them thus far.

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/34 "2008-04-05T22:01:37Z")

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OK, I see..🙂 My husband is also very cuddly.. I just love it! Can´t get enough of it. But my two little boys 5 and 7 are not often in a cuddling mood anymore:o Have you noticed any effect on kids?

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/35 "2008-04-05T22:21:24Z")

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I am enjoying my big bottle of MX135. It is a favourite. Being the only woman in this house, it gives me a warm, mature, feminine weight and authority.

I am also glad I bought the TAA OIL. It seems to enhance the contentment I feel with MX135 and boost joy of life.

This has been my combo today:  
1 spray of MX135 to the chest  
3 drops og TAA oil to the chest  
2 sprays of CTTM to the hair

Went jogging, and that usually generates so much new energy, that I have long nights with all kinds of projects. Tonight I think the CTTM keeps me up even longer. My head is full of creative ideas, and there is no sleeping in sight for me. If I had someone to talk to right now, I would be blah-blah-blah, but the mix doesn´t seem to have the same effect on my loved one - he fell asleep on the sofa.🙂 It is late over here in europe…🙂

My experience with CTTM and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is that if I´m not talking to anyone when wearing it, I tend to do a lot of planning and “talking” in my head. New Ideas just pop up endlessly! How about putting some of what is in Instant openness in a creative mix?

Paired with A314 I would also have the distance to other people that can be useful in a creative process. Hm, that´s a good one, I think 😛

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/36 "2008-04-05T22:44:42Z")

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Nice order, secret! As to your LPs, Cuddle Bunny sounds perfect for you since it is just EST and cops. Their phero blends are fairly strong, and you can wear them with Androtics as well. I’ve gotten amazing results with Cougar (unscented). I find I love the scent of the Super Sexy scented, but sometimes I’d like to wear even more of it for the pheromone qualities. But I can’t because then I’d have to run around smelling like a perfume counter. So the unscented roll ons are great to have as well for when you want to bathe in a particular mix. Know what I mean?

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/37 "2008-04-05T23:04:22Z")

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Yes, I do know what you mean!😃 😃 I didn´t always wear perfume before I stumbled over Androtics and LP, but now I wouldn´t be without one or two or three delicious secretly spiced up blends 😃 I have fallen in love with the cougar scent, and have ordered 2 bottles of it. But the unscented sounds like a great idea!

I have mixed some unscented TAA oil into one of the cougar bottles. I believe it just makes it even more of a good mood/young and fresh blend 😃

The TAA oil is a hit!!

My favourites so far are:

[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) x2  
MX135  
A314  
TAA oil

I just LOVE the oil products!! They just seem to last a long time on my skin, and therefore seems like more of a bargain. I feel that I can depend on one dose lasting a whole day at work, or a whole night. To me it seems that the results experienced with the alcohol based products vary a lot more, because of the fast diffusion. With the oils you sort of lock your pheromone signature for a longer period of time, making it easier for people to get used to you new signature, without it fading away.. I might be talking mostly about the results I get with the people who are close to me, and know me well..🙄

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/38 "2008-04-05T23:25:59Z")

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I wonder if it would be possible to order some of the other molecules in an oil base as well. I would love that!!!

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**Author:** ![thesecret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thesecret](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thesecret)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/39 "2008-04-06T12:16:21Z")

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What I experience with A314 is a peace and security that I find truly wonderful. It seems like people are really comfortable around me, at the same time as I have less interest…🙄 In a good way, I mean.. Contentment is the word, and peace.. There might be some people feeling a bit shy in my presence, but I am cool with that when wearing A314. Earlier I sort of reduced my own appearance, if I felt like someone was shy around me - now I dot feel like I need to..🙄

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thesecret-journal/9561/40 "2008-04-07T00:21:42Z")

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> [@thesecret](#):
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> I am enjoying my big bottle of MX135. It is a favourite. Being the only woman in this house, it gives me a warm, mature, feminine weight and authority.

Is Androtics no longer offering the MX135 in full bottle size, or am I just looking in the wrong place? When you click on MX135 under Experimental Test Mixes, the only option is the $14.95 bottle, which I’m assuming is the To-Go size.

Dangit, I hope I’m just not looking in the right place, because I want a full bottle of this!

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