# think I'm spending too much..

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 25, 2007, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/think-im-spending-too-much/5703 "2007-09-25T07:02:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![trevrep](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trevrep/32/1417_2.png) [@trevrep](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/trevrep)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/think-im-spending-too-much/5703/1 "2007-09-25T07:02:16Z")

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so i have been using A314 and Turn Up The Heat for a week now. and i love them both.  
it’s amazing how A314 can change yourself and others around you.  
Everyone seems to be in a good mood. it was a mistake trying Turn Up The Heat at the same time at work; wow.  
Also i’ve learned if you’re going to wear both at a club, you have to tone it down a bit. When i drink, i have no fear, and these girls smelling the phero signature will assume that I’m coming on too strong.  
it’s funny to see girls migrating towards you on the floor too. i started blowing on my wrist where i sprayed Turn Up The Heat and damn what a show they put on for us.

so for my next purchase, I’m thinking of getting these. any advise on tweaking these would be appreciated.

MX103-if it restocks  
[Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2 - this is trippy i thought for a second, it said please come talk to me, not pre-release CTTM. lol  
P79 - 30ml 25mcg/spray  
Instant Honesty- reg strength  
P83 - 30ml 20mcg/spray  
P93- 30ml 7.5mcg/spray

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/think-im-spending-too-much/5703/2 "2007-09-25T07:10:40Z")

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That happened to me too. Maybe Jasmin planned it that way with her neuro-linguistic programming self!

You might be a bit light on the P93 dosage, and a bit heavy on the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and P79 but i dont know your intentions. I would recommend getting togos of the putatives until you know that they work for you. They arent as reliable as the Instant main line products.

I would put CTTM in my cart right now if i were you. It might sell out since there are only 4 left right now.

Talk to Jasmin about making you a bottle of MX103.

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**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/think-im-spending-too-much/5703/3 "2007-09-25T07:10:41Z")

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Yeah, TUTH at work = a bad situation…

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**Author:** ![trevrep](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trevrep/32/1417_2.png) [@trevrep](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/trevrep)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/think-im-spending-too-much/5703/4 "2007-09-25T08:00:39Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> You might be a bit light on the P93 dosage, and a bit heavy on the P83 and P79 but i dont know your intentions.

well, my intentions are similar to Turn Up The Heat, want to undress them with my eyes and my phero-cloud. heh but seriously, i know something is missing but i can’t put my nose on it.

**edit: i am happy with how A314 and tuth work together, but i know there is something that will just push it over the edge, seal the deal, close the deal whatever the word is. reduce lmr.etc**

well i was planning on wearing A314 with Come Talk To Me Mix 2 + [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) + Turn Up The Heat + P93 and when things start getting hot - adding P79 and P83 on top of it. yay YUH!!

which dosage would you recommend for P93?

_To turn alpha/high status vibe into a more likable alpha/high status vibe: 5-10 mcg for every 2.5 mcg Androstenone and 5-10 mcg for every 1 drop of A314/mx variant (toilofday); for bounding optimism on a woman: 50 mcg_

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/think-im-spending-too-much/5703/5 "2007-09-25T08:10:17Z")

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Togos are only available in dosage multiples of 12.5mcg.

I would say 25mcg for P93. You can easily dilute down and youre not likely to go over 100 mcg, or even 50 mcg that often.

I would do 12.5mcg for the other two.

I presume you dont mind diluting or pre-mixing before wearing. Spraying is nice but a little more attention put into mixing pays off well.

I think everything combined like you listed sounds a little wasteful but you have to experiment or you never learn anything. It would take me weeks to build up to something that complex though. I wouldnt use CTTM + IH. Just use IH. At two drops of A314 youre already in danger of an androstenone overdose. I would go with TUtH for the “hot” part of the night and keep it simple. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is best dabbed on, not sprayed on.

Just a bunch of thoughts. Your experience can (and will) differ.

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**Author:** ![trevrep](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trevrep/32/1417_2.png) [@trevrep](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/trevrep)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/think-im-spending-too-much/5703/6 "2007-09-25T08:18:10Z")

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Thank you for that information.  
guess it’s not as easy as one would assume. a lot of calculations plus trial and error involved. I suppose that’s half the fun of wearing these products.

edit:Tater, i also noticed that MX203 is one of ur faves. Now MX203 does have P93 in it. (heavy P93 based mix with lots of Alpha Androstenol and TAA too in a base of “PheroGame” cologne). would you recommend it over P93? will check your earlier posts for hits. and usage; alone or with other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)

edit: instant Caucasian magic huh? so for just asian magic, with out “cauc” i need something different. Instant honesty x 4? i’ll try that

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/think-im-spending-too-much/5703/7 "2007-09-25T08:25:51Z")

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Yup. Experimentation is the fun part. I have a few hints over at The Mad Tater Journal on playing around with stuff. A headstart is always a good thing.
