# This has very little to do with Pheros I just need advice... **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 14, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018 "2007-10-14T16:42:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![capaldi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c0e974/32.png) [@capaldi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capaldi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018/21 "2007-10-20T20:21:37Z")
Look…Most games dont work,and are manipulative. Manipulation is the last thing we want to do to someone else. However,there is nothing wrong with building sexual tension with someone in order to get what you want. The I phone is irrelevant,most of the conversation you have with him is irrelevant,Untill you make him understand that You are the one He wants to “Win Over”. I seems like you like this guy alot,enough to post about him anyway. Dont bend over backwards,wear the Pheros Androtics has to offer,but practice on a little Inner Game at the same time. JUST HAVE FUN!!! ---
**Author:** ![Marty\_4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Marty\_4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marty_4)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018/22 "2007-10-20T20:58:39Z")
Listen mate, first I couldn’t give two \*\*\*\*'s weather your talking to me. second of all. why are you on here buying phero’s and learing about them? I’ll tell you why your giving you self an edge, basically tricking girls, we all are. your doing waht you can in your power to help your chances… Am i right? This girlis on here she don’t want to know how sensitive you are she wants to get with the lad shes on about. So as well as phero’s another helper she’s got is that us lads, are 1. prone to getting jelous 2. we crave attention just as much as you here about girls doing it, 3. When this lad she’s her and her pretty little face lights up showing him she’s wel into him he will get that euphoric feeling of testosterone we all have and think basically this is fun, her cahsing will be a high for him. Now mate, if you are as sensitive and as much a lovely lad as you you put your self accross as to look nie to teh birds or you genuinly are i don’t know but one thing for sure, 99.9% of lads are bastards in one way or another as women are what hey are. If she wants to get with the lad she has to attract him. And one of teh oldest sayings in teh book is fight fire with fire. I have been done over by the three birds i caould actually call girlfriends and have at times been quite bitter. but i ahve looked at relationships from the outside with both my male and female mates and i can tell you 100% a realtion ship, well the start of a relationship is playing the game. how many times have you heard he or she wants to change me or he or she ain’t who i married??? Think about it mate she’s not looking for a hero on a chat room she’s looking for real life advice… I’m in a rush so i appologise for the spelling… and the fact i nearly always type “the” as “teh” xxx night all. x Ps i’ve forgot the name of the lad who i’m talking to but just to say i mean no offence just the attatude stinks lol. xxx ---
**Author:** ![Marty\_4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Marty\_4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marty_4)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018/23 "2007-10-20T21:01:50Z")
One more thing mate take this quote you put “Strategicly planning when to call and how long to wait in order to create suspense and toy with somebody is just wrong” Now swap some words and look what you get Strategicly planning what Pheros to wear for what want her to feel like in order to create suspense, sexual tension, or confort and toy with somebody is just wrong see the resemblence \<— spelling??? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018/24 "2007-10-20T21:29:13Z")
> [@Swissie](#): > > Now I’m even MORE confused!!! > I just finished my exams so I’ve been in my own world the past few days but anyway, when I landed it was like I had left for a year! I mean all of a sudden, he’s being really forward and to top it off so are two of his friends!!! I mean, WHAT?? Are they playing some game with me? Like do they have a bet going to see who can get me first or something? what is that about? so I have no idea what I’m supposed to do. One of his friends told me straight that he wanted to take me on a road trip and show me passion!! 😕😮 The other one called me up and asked me to go for a drink. And I always thought he had a girl friend so I wasn’t about to get mixed up in that so I asked him “don’t you have a girlfriend? I don’t think she would be happy about us going for a drink at 22h!” then he says “no it ended, I’m more into girls like you now” so I said “what does that mean” then he says “you know? Kinda conservative, sweet… bal bla bla!” Man I have no idea what is going on!!! > Then there is my iPhone guy on the side who is now saying we should see our movie!!.. hmm. I don’t know man, I’m totally confused. > I haven’t even received my Pheromones so I haven’t used any. And I can ASSURE all of you that I am NOT that hot! > Weird thing… when they are all together it’s like normal, we are all just talking and chilling but when they are alone it’s just a trip! > Any suggestions? > 😕😕😕 Actually Swissie this is an excellent observation on your behalf. A couple things that you said should make quite a bit of sense to you. Some guys/girls are jerks! Sometimes just the mere knowledge of knowing that we are going to have an edge is enough to compensate for a lack in confidence we might have. Never underestimate the power of confidence! A women nor man does not have to be beautiful in societies standards, but if that person exudes confidence than there is a certain inherent spark which attracts others. Guys might tell you different and some guys are shallow enough to believe it, but looks are not always everything. If I meet a beautiful girl and she demonstrates no personality, I don’t care how hot she is I am not going to be with her. I have a friend who is like a sister, and yet I completely adore her. If you saw her only without getting to know her you would think she is an average girl. I tell you what her wisdom, character, and the way she carries herself makes all the difference and I would much rather spend time with her that any of my other much hotter friends. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018/25 "2007-10-20T23:39:09Z")
Excellant post Steveo. Keep in mind also that sometimes when it rains it pours. You can go on a dry streak with dating for months and then have 2 or 3 guys ask you out on the same day. Alot of my single gilfriends comment on this. Could be your natural mones, could be one of them figures I better get a date first or she may like my friend better. Who knows but it happens to alot of people that way. I really dont think they are playing games. They however may be competeing with each other for something they both want. > [@](#): > > “Strategicly planning when to call and how long to wait in order to create suspense and toy with somebody is just wrong” > > Now swap some words and look what you get > > Strategicly planning what Pheros to wear for what want her to feel like in order to create suspense, sexual tension, or confort and toy with somebody is just wrong I do see your point Marty I just dont agree with it. People wear all sorts of things to create sexual tension or comfort and true its all part of the attraction game. People have been doing it since the beginning of time. With mones your effecting their libido and their feelings of comfort. You are putting them at ease with you. They wont make them do anything they were not capable of doing before and it dosnt play with there emotions. But playing games as you have described dosnt put them at ease. It shows a disregard and a disrespect for them and there emotions. If swissie was just looking to get laid then hey maybe your method might work. I have a feeling she is looking for more then that. Just my opinion Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Marty\_4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Marty\_4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marty_4)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018/26 "2007-10-21T04:57:57Z")
Well each to their own opinions ehh. All i was saying was that lad who mantioned me said it’s wrong to say wait a laile as in let him stew before phoning, as in get hom wanting and he was making out it don’t happen and all that if ya read back before my second post to this thread you’ll see. I love phero’s and what they do, but i am many other lads use them for exactly what i said. The actualy use of pheromones was not really my point. my point was to saying stratagising when to call as in waiting whoever this lass like wait will draw him closer, which it will no lad likes to wait for a girl to call as i’m sure swissie hates waiting for this lad to talk. Toilofday laft a message that was not true to real life and had attatude in _Marty…if you were a female, I’d stop talking to you entirely for playing silly games, and i’d probably be pretty pissed at you by the end of the first week._ _You’re mates probably like it because they enjoy chasing more so than being with somebody. That’s not exactly a mature relationship._ _From what i’ve seen, the best guys I know don’t play_ the game\* ([Amazon.com: The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists ― A Provocative Memoir on Male Dating Subculture and Seduction: 9780060554736: Strauss, Neil: Books](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738))_. They hate it and refuse. They don’t get as much action as some other guys I know, but they are better people. People you’d rather spend time with and are happy you know them at the end of the day._ _Strategicly planning when to call and how long to wait in order to create suspense and toy with somebody is just wrong._ \*\* I wasn’t telling swissie to go kill this blokes pets just mess with his head a little like he is doing. Everyone does it, it’s called attration, playing ahrd to get, enticment??? I just feel toilofday was trying to more put him self across in a sensitive i’m a nice guy light than help with the question. We are all grownups here nad we all know this is real life, thats all their is to it. I used phero’s and swapped them into his last quote just to say that could easy be taking as wrong by some people. And i don’t mean to insinuate… I’m sure toiloff day is a lovely lad but he’s got quite a posing picture up ain’ he? i bet anyone he has the phero’s turn up the heat, and ammo, which may i say is titled bettle of the sexes… I’m not saying it’s wrong at all i’m just saying some of these phero’s are sed for exactly the same reason as one might stratagise/wait to tall to change the blokes/girls look on it. And on a last note just for back up how many posts have ya see where there all about i put this on and she was all over me. And saying that how many posts do you see where thw girl is called a “target” I will say one more time i’m not saying ophero’s are bad i’m just saying everything can be looked at form the other side ---
**Author:** ![Marty\_4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Marty\_4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marty_4)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018/27 "2007-10-21T05:23:27Z")
i know Trisha… Phero’s wern’y my point, i just put that onto toilofday’s comment to me, he replied to me saying it was wrong for her to wit to ring him and text back to sewduce him and get him stewing thats all. I love phero’s. If you read my first post to this thread then toilofday’s reply you will se why i put it in. Thats all. Didn’t mean to get off on the wrong foot, i’m new to the forum. just think Swissie is looking for a way to help seduce this lad she’s after not quotes about nice guys this and guys playing teh game are bad what not. It’s all part of real life. Hope your all well x ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018/28 "2007-10-21T12:02:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Didn’t mean to get off on the wrong foot, i’m new to the forum. Dont sweat it marty. We may not always agree with each other here in the forum but we all respect each others opinions and personalities. So dont feel badly or that you cant post your opinion. 😉 Tisha [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-has-very-little-to-do-with-pheros-i-just-need-advice/6018.md?page=1)