# This is unexpected! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 15, 2010, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-unexpected/43971 "2010-12-15T08:34:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MilkManDan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@MilkManDan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MilkManDan)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-unexpected/43971/1 "2010-12-15T08:34:35Z")
Hello everyone, my name is Rob, I’m 25 years old and I live in Florida. I’ve been kind of curious about pheros since I heard about them a few years ago. I like to think I’ve got a fair grasp of the concept of how they work, despite my limited knowledge. A friend of mine had a phero perfume called “Lure for Her”, which to me seemed to fall under the category of snake oil as all it did was give everybody a headache. After lots of jokes about it at her expense, I looked some basic info up on my phone. When I got home I looked for prices on pheros that were actually effective out of curiosity, and I stumbled upon this forum. I was amazed to find something this informative and open about pheros, and I think I’m sold enough to try some. A little about me. I’m in pretty health, I exercise at least 6 days a week and am currently dieting. I’m 5’6" and weigh 223 lbs. today, though I’ll probably level off between 205-215. I can honestly say that almost all my weight is in muscle, so when you think of 5’6" and 200+ lbs., in my case at least don’t think of a short fat guy 😛. Health and body aside, I’m a pretty confident guy in most everything I do. I’m very easy to get along with as I’m patient and it takes a considerable effort to get me anywhere close to angry or upset. Most people who spend any time with me seem to find my pretty funny, and risking my modesty I’ll say charming and smart as well. I wouldn’t say I’m an extremely good looking man but I’m certainly not unattractive. I have no problems being the life of a party, making sure people have a good time one way or another, telling people what they need to hear when they’re upset, or flirting and having conversations of a sexual nature. Unfortunately that’s usually where things stop, I can spend time with good looking women and walk away knowing without a doubt that I made a great impression and they had a good time, but I’m almost always walking away alone. That’s a big part of why I’m looking into pheros, coming home alone after having what I know was a great time for me and whatever woman/women I spent time with is getting old. I’m hoping they’ll give that extra edge, boost, desire, whatever, for something more than laughter and smiles to happen. Another thing I’m curious about is how I could apply pheros to my job. I’m a P.I. and from what I’ve read I can think of a few situations where the right application of pheros may make things much easier for me. Particularly the ‘ghost effect’ I read about. I know it’s an undesirable effect normally, but if it’s something I could produce reliably it’d be very useful when I have to go into a bar or restaurant during surveillance. I am most certainly new to everything but the concept of pheros, so any advice, pointers, suggestions will be much appreciated (Budget is currently an issue however, so try and keep that in mind please). I read Snook’s book of pheros for rookies, and I’m thinking I want to try [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH to start, both by themselves and as a mixture. Thanks for all this great info, and any direct help you folks give! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-unexpected/43971/2 "2010-12-15T08:54:25Z")
Hi There Rob Welcome to Pherotalk 😃 Lure for her LOL Well it does have [pheromones](https://a314.com/) but its a mild formula. The perfume cover leaves a a lot to be desired hence the headaches. The ghost effect is just being ignored. Here it doesn’t mean they wont notice you though. They just wont like you so they ignore you. They are still aware of your presence, probably more so but they dont want to interact with you. Your seem to be outgoing and doing fine on your own in the social department you just need something to push you over the comfortable friends thresh hold into sexual territory. I think both AMMO and TUTH are good choices. I dont suggest using them together though till you know just what they do for you on there own. Dont ignore the social type mones though just because you are already outgoing. They cause sexual attraction as well. You can explore those later though. Ammo would be more for daily use. TUTH more for social environments like clubs parties bars dates (non work stuff). In a work environment it could give a sexual predator vibe and make people uncomfortable especially in your line of work where your following people and watching them. You may want to get one social type mone in case you need to buffer your TUTH. They have to-go size bottles so you can get something inexpensive like IH which pairs well with TUTH for intimacy very well just in case you need it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 12:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-unexpected/43971/3 "2010-12-15T12:46:32Z")
Hey there and welcome! Yea there’s a ton of ‘snake oil’ [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) sites out there that either sell mones that aren’t mones, or just low quality mones. But I see you have found the right place for everything mones! For work I’ve seen nothing work better for respect than A314. It’s expensive but it comes in oil/drop form and lasts quite a bit longer than the other alcohol/spray mones. For this reason and its effects I think it’s well worth the price. For attraction I would go with ammo. It’s one of the actual products here instead of a putative or testing mix because it has brought out such great results… One GREAT mix for attraction people use is ammo + IShine. IS gives off a youthful fun playful vibe that just makes people feel good around you, which, after-all, is what you want 🙂 Let us know what you decide and how things go for you! ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-unexpected/43971/4 "2010-12-15T15:56:48Z")
Hey Rob, Welcome to PT. You are a PI? Are you a researcher? Anyways, I am glad you found us! Ammo and tuth would be good for you. However, don’t forget socials! Ammo goes well with IShine and IH and IO. Ammo + IShine is known to deliver. It should increase sexy attraction. IH to increase intimacy and IShine for upbeat mood projection. Tuth, save that for bedroom. Good luck and enjoy 😃 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-unexpected/43971/5 "2010-12-15T15:58:38Z")
Welcome milkmandan!!! Interesting moniker!!! You’ll find a wealth of knowledge on mones and many other things on this site. As it is a research forum, you’ll get some detailed info on the science of mones as well. You _are_ a fit man! Well, for social attractions, AMMO would be a good all around product. Really give me in self effects a comfortable to be in my own skin, sexually inclined… with others getting that attraction to me effect. For your work, I can see IH helping out quite a bit… If you wanted to OD, you can try it with IJ… or A314… really like to hear about what happened when you ghosted on these!!! 🙂 Thanks for joining and got some solid responses from Tisha and empath… You’ll be good for the forum and the forum will be good to you!!! ---
**Author:** ![MilkManDan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@MilkManDan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MilkManDan)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-unexpected/43971/6 "2010-12-15T21:11:16Z")
Hey thanks for the welcome and the help everyone! I’m very glad for it, as I’ve thought twice, three times, and am still doing research into what I’m going to buy for starters. I’m looking forward to actually making the purchase and letting you guys know how it works… although I’m still undecided what 2 I’m going to get. I’m not sure what a Primal Instinct refers to on here, so I can’t answer you CoolKat ☹. Thanks again everyone! ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-unexpected/43971/7 "2010-12-16T00:26:29Z")
> [@MilkManDan](#): > > Hey thanks for the welcome and the help everyone! I’m very glad for it, as I’ve thought twice, three times, and am still doing research into what I’m going to buy for starters. I’m looking forward to actually making the purchase and letting you guys know how it works… although I’m still undecided what 2 I’m going to get. > > I’m not sure what a Primal Instinct refers to on here, so I can’t answer you CoolKat ☹. > > Thanks again everyone! sorry, it was a typo… I think I was going to write what is your primary goal here, but I guess I was typing too fast 😃 Anyways, [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/1/1922ba467c28ea3801926a7c8a507ffe6711f65c.gif) ](https://edge.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/welcome.gif) again ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-unexpected/43971/8 "2010-12-16T19:31:48Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Milkmandan! You received some great advice already and I think the products recommended will help you. Keep us updated as to your results and how well they worked for you. Your gc was issued!