# This Sh!t stinks so badly. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 8, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691 "2008-06-08T22:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bhillboy37](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bhillboy37](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bhillboy37)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/1 "2008-06-08T22:53:36Z")
I’ve tried not to post but I can’t take it any longer. The smell of IShine stays on me far to long. I must shower before I go to bed or it’ll drive me nuts. The [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) stinks to high hell as well. I can’t even seem to cover it b/c it’s soooo strong. Even after the cologne I use has disapeared hours ago that pheromone stinch is still there. Someone please tell me nobody else smells it. And to top it all off, after using everything in my arsenal, MX103,A314, IShine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty I haven’t noticed any IOI’s. It’s bad enough for me to smell badly but for this stuff to not show any signs of working in any way is a real drag. A little help from the group would be of great help. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/2 "2008-06-08T23:13:24Z")
The smell of Instant Shine makes me sick to my stomach, but TAA which is the major component of IShine, doesn’t have any detectable smell, to me. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) doesn’t cause me any problem. I don’t like the smell of A314, bit it is tolerable and worth it! I definitely notice strong results from all the things you use (except MX103 I haven’t tried). Experiment with each invividually. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/3 "2008-06-08T23:14:16Z")
Describe a typical application for you, including how many sprays of each product, how many products at one time, and the application locations on your body. Also, your age and the situations you’ve tried the stuff would be a great help. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/4 "2008-06-08T23:25:31Z")
having same prob with ammo… Ishine doesnt have a smell i can tell and turn up the heat has a smell on me as does ammo…still seeing if my question can be answered as well… “can i put something over ammo and turn up the heat _added that one now_ in order to not smell like motor oil or rubbing alcohol?” \*kinda forgot word for word but my question was something like that. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/5 "2008-06-08T23:25:45Z")
Are you normally sensitive to scents. I find Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to smell good myself and have only gotten compliments when using it on the scent. IO or Alpha Androstenol can smell a bit like feet to me but its easy enough to cover. Ishine smells fantastic to me. You are probably picking up the scent of the pheromones. No one else can detect them unless you make then aware they are there. MX103 is said to smell really bad like sour milk but its a test product with very little cover. For results you need to provide some more info. How much did you wear ect ect like Data mentioned. Just keep in mind pheromones are not supposed to smell good. Its not the smell that attracts or causes the reaction. Its the pheromone molecule that travels up the nasal cavity to the brain that does that. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/6 "2008-06-08T23:28:55Z")
Sharkboy, yes you can cover TUTH with what ever you choose. Its harder to cover AMMO because its in a cologne base but I believe some of them still do. Try to use something that will belnd well with it like hugo boss or cool water. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Edx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4da419/32.png) [@Edx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Edx)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/7 "2008-06-08T23:39:37Z")
Weird I love the smell of IShine, IO etc I always smell my wrists when Ive put it on during the day and the cap. mmmmm ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/8 "2008-06-08T23:41:23Z")
I’ve read through all your posts, and would suggest you get a refund, it doesn’t seem that these products are for you. I’ve also read a post of someone having an anxiety reaction to putting on A314. Congratulations on taking the plunge and trying these products out. Maybe contact the people, tell them your problem, listen to their tips first, and see if you can resolve them – they also have a 200% money guarantee - but I don’t think you are going use a whole bottle if you are getting all these flare ups – but hey, try it out and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/9 "2008-06-08T23:43:44Z")
ty tisha will find something in the means of those two you mentioned =] appreciate the help =] ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/10 "2008-06-08T23:53:32Z")
Different people sense [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) differently. For instance, various people report the smell of anone as - cat urine - vanilla - no smell at all This topic has been explored a bit in the following threads. > [@The controversial smell of Instant Shine](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-controversial-smell-of-instant-shine/189786): > > There seems to be some controversy regarding the smell of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). Some people love the smell. I find myself sniffing the application points at time, and be sure to always spray some into my face. Several people think is smells like onions or some other overpowering scent. Let’s find out the forums consensus on Instant Shine. > [@Dreams with Fecal or Urine Themes](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-with-fecal-or-urine-themes/2101): > > After going to sleep with pheremone products on either me or my wife, I’ve had dreams of having feces or urine on myself. These type of dreams are highly unusual for me, and seem only to occur when I’m exposed to the pheremone products. This morning my wife told me that she has had several similar dreams recently. Her dream last night motivated her to tell me. I wore pheremones the day before but she was not aware of it at the time. I won’t go into details of the dreams. I will note that I d… The ability to consciously detect the pheromones can be learned to some extent. Also, the association with the perceived smell can change over time and experience, generally becoming less objectionable with continued use. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/11 "2008-06-08T23:59:48Z")
> [@bhillboy37](#): > > I’ve tried not to post but I can’t take it any longer. The smell of IS stays on me far to long. I must shower before I go to bed or it’ll drive me nuts. The Instant Openness stinks to high hell as well. I can’t even seem to cover it b/c it’s soooo strong. Even after the cologne I use has disapeared hours ago that pheromone stinch is still there. Someone please tell me nobody else smells it. And to top it all off, after using everything in my arsenal, MX103,A314, IS, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty I haven’t noticed any IOI’s. It’s bad enough for me to smell badly but for this stuff to not show any signs of working in any way is a real drag. A little help from the group would be of great help. Realize the source of pheromones: asscrack, crotch, pee, spit, armpits, etc. So you should expect pheromones, artificial or natural to smell like feet, ass, pits or crotch. Live with it. The fact is humans enjoy and are attracted to those scents as long as they’re healthy ones and not too strong. As a man are you more turned on by the smell of soap or the slight scent of pussy? Personally I have difficultly keeping my nose outta my GF’s privates, although I prefer them recently showered but not sterile or perfumed. The secret to successful pheromone use is moderation and a good cover. ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/12 "2008-06-09T00:08:21Z")
like i stated though to someone in the womans tips and tricks and maybe on the lines of gegogi… pheromones are good…very good so good i believe in them. but life is nothing but a big ol dose of psychological experiences… you wake up…u feel u wanna be pretty or wanna feel awsome today…your id and ego and super ego are gonna eff you around n kick your butt a couple times…then its YOU that makes the decision…put wat you think is gonna smell like a awsome million bucks…but if anything you gotta deal with it. then again…pheromones stink lol…im learning that and having to deal with that…i just learned another thing today _the BEAUTY of this forum is you LEARN LEARN LEARN..EVERYTHING YOU CAN_ from tisha that i can cover ammo _or try lol_ bc it smells like a motor oil…thers NO stopping it! but notice that life is psychology…live with the smells im sure people tend to smell ther own smells sometimes…if your in love with a partner u gotta learn to love her smells too…way of life hero =] ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/13 "2008-06-09T00:19:05Z")
Snort Ass crack is going a bit far ROFL 😃 Although the products mentioned so far above are mild in mone scent. Wait till they get a wiff of dirty it smells like Buttcheese. I have to gag a few times when I apply it LOL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/14 "2008-06-09T00:22:04Z")
lol buttcheese? lol and to think i did your poll tisha and said o hell yea i wanna try it! =]]]] lol nothing like picking up a hot girl n getting the buttchese compliment…thats smiles for the rest of the night haha ---
**Author:** ![Shocker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@Shocker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shocker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/15 "2008-06-09T00:22:30Z")
I like the smell of IS and IO Is there an added scent to it? Cuz I like it ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/16 "2008-06-09T00:25:32Z")
from wat i just sprayed _honestly i sprayed instant shine to my wrist a lil over 10 mins ago_ thers no smell unless you stuff your nose to your area you sprayed…smells a lil funny…as of a matter of fact…it smells like the strong smell i get from ammo…but ammo is REALLY stronger than the instant shine smell…but me typing right now and wrist down or around the bottom of me no i cant smell it ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/17 "2008-06-09T03:22:02Z")
You’re smelling the [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), which is an orangey smell. The actual fragrance in Ammo is similar, but more of a citrus blend, and much stronger. I’ve always liked the light neroli smell, and for me, it’s just like the salescopy says about it smelling no stronger than hair conditioner or body wash after dry down. Easy to cover. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/18 "2008-06-09T03:25:30Z")
I love the smell of pheromones. If they were cheaper, I’d go to bed every night wearing androsterone. It smells great and makes me feel all cozy and cool. hmm… maybe I need to economize and buy the extra strength bottle. Then I could dream I was Wilfred Brimley or James Bond all night. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) has a smell? I thought it smelled a bit like a wet dog (a nice wet dog). You know, they don’t actually smell like air fresheners, right? You gotta learn to, um, appreciate all those lovely human funky smells and what they do to you. After a while, you just get used to the funk and groove with it 🙂 Besides, it’s the butyric acid and other “waste” products of bacteria that developes in human sweat, that really gives BO its nasty funk. Fresh funk isn’t so bad, really. We’re so used to Madison Avenue telling US “BO=Bad”, living in our sterile, shower-every-day, cover up with anti-persperant world, we aren’t used to smelling all those pheromones, so of course they smell different. Take the Red Pill. ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/19 "2008-06-09T03:26:41Z")
hey data im not really sure yet…bc im just sitting here experimenting a lil… i think i figured it out…IM NOT SURE but i THINK i have… lol its going to sound SOOOOO weird too but like i said im experimenting in my own room right now ok…if i spray the TOP of my arm…for some reason it smell like crap _aka my motor oil that iv stated b4 a million times_ BUT…if i spray my INNER arm _this is way above my wrist though…_ like right in the bend of my arm…its got the good smell and i sprayed it at least a hour ago _AMMO_…but i dont get it…thats soft skin and a pulse area…the neck is too so y is it smelling bad on my neck and its fine on my arm? im smelling a STRONG orange scent from ammo on my arm and im not even holding it close to me…just me typing i smell it REALLY good… lol so much confusion but idk its working i guess ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691/20 "2008-06-09T03:29:12Z")
Give it some time, Sharkboy. You’ll smell the androstenone from the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) eventually. It’s just the nature of -none. It outlasts the fragrance. I really can’t tell you why it smells different, only to echo what you say about the difference in your skin between the two places. -D4 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-sh-t-stinks-so-badly/13691.md?page=2)