# Thoughts from a Pervert- The Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [March 24, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458 "2014-03-24T02:30:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/202 "2014-11-09T00:19:00Z")

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It was the P78. Edge = pushed over.

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**Author:** ![jett](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jett/32/438_2.png) [@jett](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jett)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/203 "2014-11-11T07:08:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Then last night it was just 20 mcg p96 and 2 sprays mX 274 going on a blind date who ended up being too fat. (while on the date, guys at the bar hit on me, the bouncers hit on me, EVERYONE hit on me everywhere) So I texted my new favorite lover (nothings gonna happen with this one, he’s in an open relationship but his cock is my favorite thing on the planet) who was Djing a club in the city and we both went to the club. So hot getting off on the fact that my lover was watching me as I was trying to shoo away this fat fuck.
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> I was pretty polite to him nevertheless, trying to make the most of the night, but he started getting hostile and pissed at me that I was texting while on a date with him and refusing to go back to his place (WTF!) so I finally ditch him, meet up with my lover who is now drinking with a few of his guy friends. The guy friends all love me.
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> And we end up having a threesome with one of his guy friends!!!

I just sprained my middle and ring finger jerking off to this!! i needed to log in to tell you this …psst.

P96 makes me feel beautiful and amazing. and everyone in the room. its people putty. you are all under my control. this is not a test. you are miiiiiine. like fucking bette middler in hocus pocus. especially when sweaty. whatever p96 does for me biologically or whatever makes _me_ make pretty potent pussy pheromoens myself. and it is so over. i win.

i am going to try this combo!

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/204 "2014-11-11T15:48:37Z")

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“People putty” is about right. Some more than others. Tends to favor “charming” rather than raw sex. Is not a IJ vibe. This is what beautiful women sweat. Beautiful people sweat. Unlike in real life, it always smells like potpourri.

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**Author:** ![Nick\_W](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nick_w/32/2200_2.png) [@Nick\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nick_W)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/205 "2014-11-12T19:53:12Z")

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P96 has risen to be come one of my favourites since I got it a few weeks back. I can completely agree with the effect it has on people in on top of a social mix (MX297 and friends). I need to try it in a heavier solo dose rather than just as a steering mone.

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/206 "2014-11-13T06:08:56Z")

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How much was your dose? What did you get at 50 mcg? What about 10 mcg?

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**Author:** ![LadyScientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@LadyScientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LadyScientist)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/207 "2014-11-20T02:43:21Z")

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Help! Advice for securing alpha male needed:

MMDI: My P96 is 10 mcg per spray.

Ok so I know I’m not supposed to spray a bunch of things together but I get all child-like with presents under a Christmas trees when I’m really excited about a man and I just can’t help it!!:

1 spray Mx 274 wrist  
1 spray 250 ng enone behind neck  
2 sprays of 10 mcg each p96 chest  
1 spray of 5 mcg p78 side of neck

so enone because it was a booty call and it makes me horny. p78 bc MMDI said that’s what pushed the other guy over to BF status and p96 for the compliments and the love me love me love me shit I get already from MX274. (BTW can I pay a bunch more to get a bigger bottle of this? Need to inquire)

Observations:  
–The smell! First thing out of his mouth! “You smell amazing!” pulls me close and tries to sniff every part of me

– intense romantic passionate sex (this happened the first time but way more sensual, slow, and more feeling involved)

–more eye contact during sex? this could be me, I wanted to memorize every detail of every part

– a feeling of comfort like we’ve known each other forever when in fact we’ve only hooked up once before.

– talking freely and openly about our families, where we grew up, different towns, childhoods, things we admire in people, things we don’t like, what we are passionate about, I mean really deep gf/bf filter type questions

– we both seemed to remember quite a bit about what we talked about last time and it seemed like he was reluctant to leave. I couldn’t tell how much of him staying was him being polite and not wanting to leave bc we just fucked or bc he was genuinely enjoying my company. He seems like the kind of polite person that would not feel comfortable leaving right away even if he wanted to.

So the man: ugh. It’s like the universe took #1 crush away from me just so I can meet this dream boat.

So first of all, he’s NOT 23 OR 24! HE’S 27! So that’s a little closer in age. He’s about 6’6", still plays sports so he’s got the body of a professional athlete (droooooool), amazing taste in music, perfect simplistic outlook on life, rescues and fosters dogs, works for a small start up, is really down to earth, easy to talk to, level-headed and smart with just an overall awesome personality. Not cocky but confident, humble but not shy, simple but not plain, ugh he’s just the right mix of everything.

So I know my number is high, of all the men in my life, #1 crush, my college sweetheart, this long lost brief love from last year you don’t know about, and this one are kind of all in the same tier of my interest in them. So let’s estimate the top 99.5%.

The problem is: I had no idea he was more than a hot body so we started off as a casual sexual thing. He confessed when we first hooked up that he doesn’t really do that sort of thing and wouldn’t judge me if I did (lies? right? I mean come on, what kind of sexy man like him in NYC doesn’t fuck casually?)

I also feel like the post-sex pillow talk was so deep and personal that why bother getting to know me so well if you don’t really give a shit. Ok let me back up:

Our first encounter was mid October- he then had a birthday, friends in town, crazy work events, a wedding to attend out of town, then I had Boards and went out of town- so we’ve both been really busy. We’ve sexted (one really steamy one) in between and sent a few pics of our puppies, etc. He doesn’t answer my texts right away and sometimes ignores them on end. I’ve given him lots of shit about it. So he wanted to see me 2 Fridays ago, never followed through, so I sent him a sexy nudie with the message “Just so you know what you’re missing- Have a nice life!”

and was just going to ride him off. He responded immediately with the explanation of all the stuff going on in his life and he’s very sorry and to please don’t hate him. So I say that I’ll give him another chance if he doesn’t ignore me again.

soooo… then a week later- yesterday- he says he wants to see me and get naughty with me.

The advice I need:

For all the game I have, I ACTUALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK TO DO WHEN I ACTUALLY LIKE SOMEONE THIS MUCH.

ESPECIALLY SOMEONE I THINK IS OUT OF MY LEAGUE.

I know, I’ll stop screaming.

No, but seriously. It freaks me out that guys of this caliber are so hard to find that I kinda don’t want to fuck it up. And it’s already a bad sign that he doesn’t respond right away? (or he is he trying to play it cool too?)

so he mentioned wanting to go to this show with me on Saturday that I have tickets for. So I texted him today with the details and to let me know if he wants to go. No response yet.

What’s the goal here???

Guys get scared if you come on too strong, guys get scared if you don’t come on at all, guys get scared if they think you’re playing them so they play back- it’s all way too fucking confusing. And I’m clearly not mature enough or brave enough to be the first to say something cheesy like “soooo… we’re just fucking right?”

The facts:

1. he’s def attracted to me
2. he’s busy
3. he went out of his way, a very long trek to my house to apologize for being absent recently
4. he was an active listener/participant in a very deep emotional intimate conversation
5. The sex was so good, he wouldn’t let me get up to turn the heat down
6. He got out of a long relationship 6 months ago and is def over it
7. he doesn’t seem emotionally unstable
8. he’s obviously got as many options as I do and I’m probably not his #1
9. he takes his time with me, savors me like his favorite dish, which might be just the way he likes to have sex, but I only do this when I’m really into a person and want to enjoy every moment)

SO MEN- HOW DO I LOCK HIM DOWN?

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p.s did I tell you for a brief second I thought I was getting #1 crush back? we hooked up but then he disappeared. He asked me out twice last week but I was out of town for Boards, which I told him THREE times about- but he didn’t even ask how it went. He did wish me luck finally.

OH and I think I totally kicked this part of the Boards’ butt!

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/208 "2014-11-20T04:58:09Z")

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You can probably request a custom lab. If the fixings aren’t too limited (they have the stuff), they can formulate MX274 30 mL. I’ve never actually used MX274. I might have to get some. I would be able to tell what mones drive it. Except [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/), P86 and 1-2 others I haven’t had access to.

P74 is the one thing that should create stronger bonding between nearly all people, regardless of who they are. Fallout is another word for staying power. The personal stuff I use, the only way to get it to you is to mail you a bottle or have Androtics formulate it in 30 mL as a custom lab.

IH + P74 is not a bad idea. It might hit men as much as women. I just don’t know. Most guys are not attracted to other guys. So I am glad to say I do not get much guy fallout. You will get some from P74.

You can double that P78.

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**Author:** ![LadyScientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@LadyScientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LadyScientist)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/209 "2014-11-21T01:58:52Z")

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I am nervous about the p74 because I swear it affects me more than the target. Also, the one time I used ore p78 I got cranky so I’ve been scared to test that.

Also random observation:  
I went back and read all my journal entries last night and I swear that the men have decreased on the looks scale since I started using pheromones. I thought about whether my self esteem changed or if I became more desperate, or if I stopped giving a fuck, and the only thing I can think of is that I gave them a chance for who they actually were (OMG I’M NOT TOTALLY VAIN?!?). As in the quality of men on the inside was slightly better but the looks sacrificed- evolution?

I was feeling slightly down about this because I thought maybe I wasn’t able to attract good looking guys anymore or that I wasn’t hot enough to get the good ones (referring to the guy who is feeling “out of my league” recently)-- but I think the mones are working too well on me and maybe I’m acting more impulsively and thinking more about “partnership” instead of whoopie. WTF.

That has been a common thread amongst most of my journal entries- the conversation always steers towards future/gf/wifey topics and questions.

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**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/210 "2014-11-21T13:29:29Z")

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Possibly your thoughts simply come with aging.

I’ve been going through similar musings, of course with women in mind. (And I actually never had too much problems getting girls) - Maybe it’s the high standards one was used to in the early twenties.

I’m now in a fullfilling relationship for two years with a lady of the same age and even wedding is on the horizon. That distinctly superseded those thoughts to a large degree.

Approaching 30, even as a male I felt and feel the biological clock (hate that term) ticking. Your jounral-themes may reflect just that, as you are certainly aware.

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**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/211 "2014-11-21T17:04:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The advice I need:
> 
> For all the game I have, I ACTUALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK TO DO WHEN I ACTUALLY LIKE SOMEONE THIS MUCH.
> 
> ESPECIALLY SOMEONE I THINK IS OUT OF MY LEAGUE.

Rule #1: Dont start off by **you** thinking he is out of your league. Let him decide that. Does that make sense? If you tell yourself he is out of your league, he already is. You are starting in the hole. Instead, go in with the attitude, “He is lucky to be dating me”. From how you describe yourself in your journal, you sound like you are smoking hot. We can tell by your writing that you have a good personality. So…you are hot, personable, love sex, and are a doctor to boot. You are a friggin catch girl! If anything he is out of your league! But if you really like him, continue to do what you are doing. Invite him to things. Take it slow, dont dry hump him by calling him or texting him everyday. Give him space. If he doesnt respond, especially if you have tickets and need an answer, then he is not the one. Sorry.

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> The problem is: I had no idea he was more than a hot body so we started off as a casual sexual thing. He confessed when we first hooked up that he doesn’t really do that sort of thing and wouldn’t judge me if I did (lies? right? I mean come on, what kind of sexy man like him in NYC doesn’t fuck casually?)

He fucked you casually. That answers your question…

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> No, but seriously. It freaks me out that guys of this caliber are so hard to find that I kinda don’t want to fuck it up.

They are hard to find in a city of 8 and a half million people. Hard to find because of the sheer size and numbers, but also you are looking for a very specific fish in a really big pond. Example, in small towns, the hot babes or the handsome guy who is the heir to the biggest ranch in the county are always the first to get married off. Big fish, small pond. So now, imagine the big fish in the big pond..lots of attention…no need to find “the one.” Or at least no hurry. There might be a better one around the corner. Not saying you cant/wont find the one in NYC, but maybe you might have better luck chasing a gentleman rancher in Great Falls, Montana or an Oilman in West Texas. They need doctors there too! 🙂

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> SO MEN- HOW DO I LOCK HIM DOWN?

The answer is right in front of you:

> [@](#):
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> Observations:  
> –The smell! First thing out of his mouth! “You smell amazing!” pulls me close and tries to sniff every part of me
> 
> – intense romantic passionate sex (this happened the first time but way more sensual, slow, and more feeling involved)
> 
> –more eye contact during sex? this could be me, I wanted to memorize every detail of every part
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> – a feeling of comfort like we’ve known each other forever when in fact we’ve only hooked up once before.
> 
> – talking freely and openly about our families, where we grew up, different towns, childhoods, things we admire in people, things we don’t like, what we are passionate about, I mean really deep gf/bf filter type questions

Communication my dear. Read what you said again. You have him naked in your bed, and he is willingly participating in the type of conversation you describe (pillow talk). To me this would be the perfect time discuss where this is going, if anywhere. Assure him you are not putting any pressure on him, but that you really enjoy being with him and would like to see him again, or see more of him, or whatever. Then shut up and watch to see what his reaction is. His “flinch factor” if you will. If he engages the topic, then you will have your answer pretty soon. If he looks at his watch and says “Look at the time. I need to go do X”, and grabs his jeans and heads to the door, you again have your answer. But in either case, this is good, because you learned something about him. Then you need to take this info and make some decisions whether to continue the chase, or cut to the chase… 🆒

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**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/212 "2014-11-21T17:15:25Z")

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> Also random observation:  
> I went back and read all my journal entries last night and I swear that the men have decreased on the looks scale since I started using pheromones. I thought about whether my self esteem changed or if I became more desperate, or if I stopped giving a fuck, and the only thing I can think of is that I gave them a chance for who they actually were (OMG I’M NOT TOTALLY VAIN?!?). As in the quality of men on the inside was slightly better but the looks sacrificed- evolution?
> 
> I was feeling slightly down about this because I thought maybe I wasn’t able to attract good looking guys anymore or that I wasn’t hot enough to get the good ones (referring to the guy who is feeling “out of my league” recently)-- but I think the mones are working too well on me and maybe I’m acting more impulsively and thinking more about “partnership” instead of whoopie. WTF.

Or maybe the opposite…the P-moans (sp) 🙂 are making you more horny so you just think to yourself “He will do..” …and you do! 😃 Comedy.

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**Author:** ![LadyScientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@LadyScientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LadyScientist)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/213 "2014-11-22T15:12:06Z")

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solo stuff to come, still mixing

Thanks CP for the great advice! I do think you hit the nail with a few things, a) I’m a catch, it’s up to him to see that b) I already have the tools to get him locked down, companionship and good sex with someone they trust enough to share their feelings with- what more does a guy really need? c) mones have def made me a little hornier so more willing to just get the act done, but it also has sparked these “companionship” questions/convos- very interesting dichotomy I wasn’t expecting.

And unfortunately, I do not agree that my “clock” is ticking. I’ve been pretty mature for my age since basically 10 years old and am not interested in producing offspring. I’m not in a rush to find a life long partner but I’m drawn to the idea and have been drawn to the idea for many many years.

Last night:  
1 spray MX 274  
1 spray 250 ng enone chest  
2 sprays of 5 mcg each p74 wrist  
2 sprays of 10 mcg p96 neck  
2 sprays of 5 mcg p78 back of neck

I increased p78 and added p74. A different booty call, but this one and I have talked about maybe being something more. We met at a swingers party! holy shit I didn’t write about that! My first orgy/swinger experience ever (Jett remind me to give you more details in private about this!!)

To summarize, only wore 2 sprays MX274 and basically had everyone’s arms and mouths all over me. People were severely infatuated with me, fighting over me, and giving me the best compliments I’ve ever gotten in my life. I was kinda the center of attention even though I was not the only new girl and def not the hottest. They hovered around me, circled around me, followed me everywhere, did anything I asked, and just openly adored me. People were starring at me while they were fucking other people, it was a really intense sexy passionate naughty situation. I didn’t even have to try to please anyone- they just all wanted to please me. AMAZING AND HEAVENLY.

Ok back to last night. This guy and my other target are very similar, tall, alpha males, very successful, handsome, fit, similar age groups, plenty of play/options, similar backgrounds/childhoods, and similar personalities, goofy and sweet but also serious and mature/stern.

Similar build up in that we’ve been blowing each other up but having a hard time actually getting together, so both of us assumed the other was calling it quits, so we just called it quits. Then I expressed my disappointment and we made plans to see each other even though I am feeling sick.

Observations:

– no change in the quantity/quality of the compliments. Very specific from him and he freely gives them. I tell him “tell me more,don’t stop” and he doesn’t. He has this ability to sense when girls are insecure about certain things and then loves those features genuinely (so hot). In particular, he loves my voice and the weird american accent I have from trying to sound “american” when I moved as a child. He said I sounded like “home” (that was from the first night only MX274- yeah seriously can I purchase that in buckets?!)

– we both came a lot. Multiple times- granted this was a different setting so we felt more free. But the first night- neither of us did.

– The sex was perfect mixture of slow, passionate, steamy, rough, hard, soft, everything. Lots of intense eye contact (that was last time too so no change there)

– we had lots of pillow talk in between with some playful flirting and he was asking me to tell him stories about my childhood, and about my patients, etc. He was begging me to get close to him.

– He said “I want to feel this, all of this, all of the time and a lot of it” referring to us being intimate and being together.

– He won’t give me any personal information about him due to the nature of our first meeting. He said he’d open up in time and in my opinion, we’ve been talking on the phone so much and in person now, why not share at least SOMETHING. I got upset. I got emotional and cranky. I really think this is the p78. I almost cried and had to keep it cool. Was very grateful the lights were off.

– He felt bad that I got upset and tried really hard to cheer me up, shared other information, reassured me about some of my fears, but eventually said “it would be different if we’d actually gone out on a real date. Then I’d tell you everything.” So I said, “well that would require you to ask me out.” So he does and so obviously I agree. He says he’ll take me to one of his favorite places and he’ll even bring proof of ID. I thank him as this is obviously the best compromise I’m going to get.

– He said I smelled and tasted perfectly (kissing my neck, chest where all the mones were applied). When I asked “like what?” he said “like sunshine”

Conclusion:

Did the p74 get him to ask me out or was it the p78? Luckily, I’m not all goo goo gaa gaa like I am normally after p74, but like I said, I have a cold so my nose is totally stuffy. Really think too much p78 makes me snappy/emotional/PMSy. I love how irresistible p96 makes you smell to other ppl! I don’t notice it! I gotta try it on my roomie.

Updates:

1. Dream Boat: I sent one more “Don’t make me sound like a crazy girl, can you just tell me if you can go or not please (kiss emoji).. btw how did (that thing at work go)” he responded immediately about how hectic things were but went well, how much fun he had with me, that he really appreciates the invite but doesn’t think he can make it bc of another party. Then steers the conversation to the weather. So I congratulate him on things going well, tell him I’d love to catch a show with him sometime, and what better way to warm up than to “shake your butt then grind it on me” and he says “haha daaaaaaaaaaamn right! Gotta stay warm somehow” so I thought that was positive reinforcement? Who knows. Still skeptical.

2. #1 crush: sends me this random text after not responding all week with “Dude sorry I’ve been so MIA!” SO OVER HIS FAKE APOLOGIES. We all know people are attached to their phones. There is no fucking excuse. Go suck your own dick bro. (did you just call me dude? you know I’m a hot chick you fucked 3 weeks ago? and your EX GF PRETTY MUCH?)

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**Author:** ![LadyScientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@LadyScientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LadyScientist)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/214 "2014-11-27T15:39:07Z")

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p96 alone

2.5 sprays of 10 mcg p96, neck and chest area in “Vanilla”

I have been feeling under the weather but had tickets to a concert (rock/metal/heavy band with melodic vocals from Scotland) that I bought months ago. They rarely play in the US and I couldn’t pass it up even though I was no condition to head bang.

None of the boys I wanted to take could go with me, no surprise there.

So I take my bestie, who is bi, who is also recovering from a cold. She shows up looking so lesbo and cute that we basically pretend to be girlfriends all night. She is recovering from her break up with her first real gf and is devastated. So we hold hands and do a lot of arm around each other swaying, kisses on the cheek, etc. We are normally this affectionate, but we both needed it.

On our way down the stairs to coat check, I ask “how are you my love bunny? You’re the perfect date, I’m so glad you’re here” and this catches the attention of a group of guys walking up the stairs, one of which is fairly manly, built, and tall (oh surprise, what’s my type again?)

We catch eyes, smile, and keep walking. I notice that after we return to the stage area, he is still eye-ing me. So I smile and move along. We are in the crowd dancing when 15 minutes later, I notice his friend circle acting like buffoons (being really loud) to get our attention. I ask my gf, “you see a lot of Scots here? I think they might be” and she answers “oh really? I thought they were apes” LMFAO.

One of his friend pushes him so that he is standing in front of me. He keeps turning around to catch my attention and I smile. 5 minutes later he says, “Hi, how are you?” I respond the greeting and the next thing I know he outreaches his hand to grasp mine and pulls me near him. WHOA THERE COWBOY.

Anyway, we talk, all our friends talk, he buys me a drink, we exchange numbers, he was there by "accident’ didn’t even know the band (so unattractive) but we make plans to go out in the future.

He asks if we could maybe get to know each other after the show, but I was kinda planning on cuddling with that one OKcupid guy who I swore used mones on me. So I pass it up, but he still calls me and texts me after the show! **Very surprised at this much effort put into me, no one has ever followed me that much to talk to me or be so assertive in a polite way.**

So OKCupid guy is super jealous that I use these products and wants in, but I won’t tell him about it. I mean he has the internet.

He says he is wasted and can’t fuck, but I’m sick and don’t really wanna fuck anyway, so we agree to just cuddle. I go to his house, he tells me how pretty I look. (he’s the same one that gives me back handed compliments)

From him throughout the night:

– You’re nice to have around

– I’m sorry I was a wreck and couldn’t fuck, but it was really nice sleeping next to you

– in response to me getting over my ex and being able to take other guys seriously, “Guys want to date you seriously? That’s good”  
me: oh is that a surprise?  
him: no, not at all. I’d give you my whole heart if I had one to give.

– Do you tell other guys as much as you tell me? (no) Why do you tell me more? (bc we feel like friends)

– (him bragging about some girl rimming him) but sex with you is better!  
(you don’t have to say that to protect my feelings, I don’t care)  
But it really is!

– In the morning, he hasn’t really made any moves to sex me, and I’m not feeling it anyway, so I get dressed. “you’re leaving??” (yes) “yeah but we haven’t even made out or anything” (yeah but you said you didn’t want to) “but you didn’t even try!” - really what a girl- so we kiss, then I go down on him, he cums too fast, and then I leave. I make some nasty comment about how fun it was to cum so hard and thanks for the orgasm- he says “Stop, you know I’ll get you next time” 😠

I was over him, he normally reciprocates A LOT. But this is the first time he didn’t and I WAS PISSED. then he texts me that I left my FAVORITE necklace at his house so now I have to fucking see him again. If that fucker loses it, I’m gonna go psycho on his ass.

Conclusion: If it’s really about bonding- he would have gone down on me. If he respected me as much as he thought he does- then I deserved an O. If I’m going to be having these sexual encounters- I better be getting something out of it, if not love, then physical attention/affection. and NO orgasms are not everything, but they are PRETTY DAMN IMPORTANT.

Adding sexual mones would have made him gone down on me. We both would have won.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/215 "2014-11-27T21:35:56Z")

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Tried to nominate this but there was a technical issue. Great report. Awesome. Yes, exactly. P96 is somewhat asexual. I think you see that. P96 is like pregnant women and baby sweat. It runs at cross purpose to sex. But it has a role in sex mixes. Run a test or 2 on [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). You will see. For guys at least, it can get you pretty far on its own. But it is not intrinsically sexual.

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**Author:** ![LadyScientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@LadyScientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LadyScientist)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/216 "2014-11-30T16:49:16Z")

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p74 testing

Thanksgiving  
4 sprays of 5 mcg each of p74 (total 20 mcg) on arms  
sexy lace dress, tights, pumps

All friends, 3 guys, 12 girls, the guys were coupled except for 1

I didn’t know there were gonna be NO guys so it was a bad test night

However, this really hot french girl/model who I was crushing on big time let me put her arm around her and cuddle her/kiss her on the cheek. Got her number and added her to the FB.

The other two girls in relationships bonded with me big time and I made a new friend. She even made me promise that we would hang out in the future and got her number, she texted me the next day.

One of my longest besties (the guy who hosted) spent a considerable amount of time checking in on me, getting me drinks, making sure I was happy and comfortable. Also, if anyone remembers my post months ago about my first p75 trials on a guy at a formal party, it’s that guy.

Saturday Night  
BDSM play partner date  
3 sprays of 5 mcg p74 each (15 mcg total) neck and arms  
lingerie, button up collared shirt, pencil skirt, stilletos, coat

I haven’t had a play partner in a while and I’m normally not a sub, but he was getting me into it and the scenes we talked about having sounded hot.

So normally I wouldn’t use bonding mones in this context, but I’m testing this whole hypothesis of bonding in a sexual environment. Plus, kink is all about trust and communication= bonding mones.

**(side note: I went from never being submissive to being collared/chained/leashed/tortured twice in the same night by two different guys, read on)**

So what was great about this first play partner, is we actually haven’t played before. So he was pretty careful/gentle about my limits. I appreciated that and it made me feel a lot safer.

He did tell me how gorgeous I was and how amazing I looked. He got off on the fact that I’m a Doctor and how smart I am.

He came pretty fast after most of the torture was over and we chatted for a brief 10-15 minutes. No cuddling, no opening up, he was actually totally in a hurry for me to leave (he’s loaded and had a huge deal to close on Monday so needed to work, fucking Wall St types). I was kind of annoyed by this. However, he was respectful, overly-polite, snapped out of his “dom” role pretty quickly and said he thought we got along well. He did say he wanted to see me again and hoped we could be play partners in the future. I responded with “we’ll see.”

So the guy from the swinger party and I are getting heated. He was pretty pissed at me for choosing another guy over him last night but he never made concrete plans with me. WTF is wrong with dudes imagining in their head that I’m sitting around waiting for them and only them without them ever communicating that to me?!

So my first BDSM date ends quickly and I call Swinger Guy to see if he wants to see me but he says he is going to sleep. After I’m home, we text and he convinces me to come over. WTF I could have just taken a cab to you but fine whatever. Gives me time to reapply 5 hours later from first application:

3 sprays of 5 mcg p74  
1 spray MX 274 (I was not going to risk him not wanting me)

Jeans, tank, cardigan, boots

He is being pouty and is def mad at me even though he says he is not and doesn’t get jealous ( I knew he was going to be this way judging by his pissed off texts all day and his bitterness over the phone).

So he doesn’t kiss me when I come over, but he takes my coat and pours me a drink. We sit on the couch to watch a movie (btw it’s HUGE that he let me into his house and gave me his address, he is being so private it’s annoying- another loaded finance guy, is that all NYC is made up of?)

It doesn’t take long until we start making out and the clothes come off. Our chemistry is through the roof! I don’t know how he gets me so horny, he is not the best looking guy I’ve been with and his dick isn’t the biggest, but we are intense when we are together! I can’t describe it.

After that first session, we are back on the couch lightly caressing each other when he says “you would do really well tied up and blindfolded.” I agree, so the next thing I know, I’m tied up, blindfolded, leashed/collared, getting hit and teased AGAIN. Weird universes align like that sometimes??

This time, no safe words were discussed, he doesn’t check in with me how I’m feeling about the intensity/pain, and just punishes me for “acting up” all day. He made me climax really hard while I was chained up. He also repeatedly tells me how perfect I am and how incredible I look, etc, etc.

I sleep over, we cuddle all night and had plans to study/work together at NY Public library the next day. We fuck in the morning, make coffee, and he decides he doesn’t want to go to the library anymore. Since I have to study, I head out. He offers to call me a car but I’m already by the elevator throwing a tantrum bc he made me stop sucking his dick so I could go study, WTF.

**What guy values and supports my career so much HE STOPS ME FROM GIVING HIM A BLOW JOB?!?! Fuck p74. How do you get anywhere with this shit?!?**

After much disappointment, a midday booty call decides to come over. He is humongous and built like a trojan 6’8" with a giant cock. So of course, I don’t say no. (Wait are my last board exams on Tuesday? yes, this clearly makes me a nympho. Oh right and sleeping with 2 different people on avg a day)

1 spray MX274  
2 sprays 5 mcg each p74 wrist  
1 spray 250 ng enone to back of neck (less diffusion with my long hair? I dunno)  
1 spray p78 back of neck (less diffusion?)

He walks in and gets right to business. Will not take any of my small talk. Will not even wait 2 seconds for me to turn on my music and is already unbuttoning my blouse. I haven’t seen this guy in over a month, come on man pretend like you see me as a person behind the pussy for 2 seconds.

He tries very hard to please which is great. I’ve learned he goes very fast so I need all the build up I can get. He warns me that he’ll go fast but it’s ok bc he can go for round 2. Whatever, heard that one before.

Sure enough, I’m seconds away when he explodes. But at least he doesn’t leave right away, he makes sure I get mine. and the second I do, he is up and putting his clothes on. I mean NOTHING. No “you look sexy”, really blunt short answers to my questions. The guy is straight treating me like a free hooker (which I kinda am but wow?!)

ugh. He’s a nice build of a man, but hairy, no muscle definition, not the best features, so I’m 100% ok with not seeing him again. But disappointed that I can’t tweek this mix!

Still feeling very inconclusive about p74 and p96.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/217 "2014-12-02T03:02:34Z")

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After reviewing a paper (sorry not erotic at all), I think there is support for dropping P96 and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in favor of a molecule from this section. [ExperiMone&#153 Series :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/) No I don’t think I want to write about that here. But you know where to find me.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/218 "2014-12-02T09:59:20Z")

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> [@LadyScientist](#):
>
> T. He offers to call me a car but I’m already by the elevator throwing a tantrum bc he made me stop sucking his dick so I could go study, WTF.
> 
> **What guy values and supports my career so much HE STOPS ME FROM GIVING HIM A BLOW JOB?!?! Fuck p74. How do you get anywhere with this shit?!?**

If that is really just [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) at work here, it might just be another strong clue that it really is a very effective status/DHV mone and promoter of regard and interest for the wearer. A fallout mone.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/219 "2014-12-02T18:36:29Z")

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[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) is a fallout mone. Makes you the cute guy. More cute than sexy.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/220 "2014-12-02T19:49:47Z")

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> [@monesmadedoit](#):
>
> P74 is a fallout mone. Makes you the cute guy. More cute than sexy.

And do you agree on the status-projecting aspect ? - My usage suggests some form of DHV is achieved. I get awe-effecs, subtle but they are there. From male and female.  
And while we are on with the placative terms: How would P75 tweak the “cute” [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in this established combo? I can’t figure it out this P75 - even 1,5 mcg buffered by 12,5 mcg P74 makes me cheeky and bossy with adverse reactions around.

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-from-a-pervert-the-journal/61458/221 "2014-12-03T18:26:26Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> And do you agree on the status-projecting aspect ?

Closer to fear projecting.

> [@](#):
>
> makes me cheeky and bossy with adverse reactions around.

It’s best when you need to be cheeky. A314 + [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) would be for dealing with aggressive bullies and sociopaths. Nazis, thrill killers. Them. P74 + P75 works on certain women. Not your typical ones either. All I can say is you will see it when you see it. Freaky ones.

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