# Thoughts on Heavy AMMO(Double strength),Instant Honesty(Quadruple Strength) & CTTM2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 24, 2008, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752 "2008-04-24T06:55:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/1 "2008-04-24T06:55:42Z")
Hello to all the friendly & helpful people & friends in this forum, i got a problem here. I’m thinking of ordering my second order pretty soon. My second order will be most likely Heavy AMMO(Double strength), Instant Honesty(Quadruple Strength) & Come Talk To Me Mix 2. So before i order, i badly need any comments, advices, opinions or the right way to use it. Feel free to drop me a reply. Thank You 🙂 P.S. I also need comments on Instant Shine(Double Strength),[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)(Double strength) & Dirty(Sexual Pheromone Oil with copulins) for Men. I’m also thinking of purchasing them too but i need feedback first. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/2 "2008-04-24T07:12:30Z")
I buy [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 2X and cut it 1:1 with Nautica Competition. Competition smells almost exactly like Ammo so it’s a less expensive way of getting 2 bottles of Ammo 1X. IH 4X is strong enough to mix 4:1 with cologne and have a great smelling scent with 1X IH strength. I’d find CTTM redundant if I already had IH. A subtle diff but androstenol reactions are all in the same ball park. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/3 "2008-04-24T10:43:22Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I buy Ammo 2X and cut it 1:1 with Nautica Competition. Competition smells almost exactly like Ammo so it’s a less expensive way of getting 2 bottles of Ammo 1X. Instant Honesty 4X is strong enough to mix 4:1 with cologne and have a great smelling scent with 1X IH strength. I’d find CTTM redundant if I already had IH. A subtle diff but androstenol reactions are all in the same ball park. Hi Gegogi, thanks for the comment 🙂 Appreciate it 🙂 One question why do you find CTTM redundant if you have IH 4X 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/4 "2008-04-24T11:34:59Z")
> [@PhatSounds](#): > > Hi Gegogi, thanks for the comment 🙂 Appreciate it 🙂 One question why do you find CTTM redundant if you have Instant Honesty 4X 😕 I know the question was directed at Gegogi, but I can answer that question for you. Instant Honesty is (Please correct if I’m wrong) roughly 30% alpha-nols and 70% beta-nols. CTTM is 50/50 alpha-nols/beta-nols. Thus, the difference is subtle, and the having both products could be considered redundant if you’re simply using -nols as an icebreaker. If you are specifically using the Instant Honesty to achieve certain effects, then you might find that CTTM is not redundant. I’ve read a couple of your threads, but I can’t remember if you’ve tried Instant Shine or not. If you haven’t, I seriously recommend it. I mean SERIOUSLY. I think IS would be well accepted in Singapore. A lot of people, including myself, have recently been experimenting with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and have found it useful as well. I’ll step forward and say that I’d recommend Instant Gentleman as well. IG is really more than just A314 minus the -none. It’s really a different animal. That pretty much covers the consumer products. Based on your previous posts, I wouldn’t recommend trying the experimones or putatives quite yet. So to sum it up, I would recommend Instant Shine (maybe 2x), Instant Gentleman, and Instant Honesty 4x. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/5 "2008-04-24T20:06:16Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > I know the question was directed at Gegogi, but I can answer that question for you. Instant Honesty is (Please correct if I’m wrong) roughly 30% alpha-nols and 70% beta-nols. CTTM is 50/50 alpha-nols/beta-nols. Thus, the difference is subtle, and the having both products could be considered redundant if you’re simply using -nols as an icebreaker. If you are specifically using the Instant Honesty to achieve certain effects, then you might find that CTTM is not redundant. > > I’ve read a couple of your threads, but I can’t remember if you’ve tried Instant Shine or not. If you haven’t, I seriously recommend it. I mean SERIOUSLY. I think IS would be well accepted in Singapore. > > A lot of people, including myself, have recently been experimenting with Instant Gentleman and have found it useful as well. I’ll step forward and say that I’d recommend Instant Gentleman as well. Instant Gentleman is really more than just A314 minus the -none. It’s really a different animal. > > That pretty much covers the consumer products. Based on your previous posts, I wouldn’t recommend trying the experimones or putatives quite yet. > > So to sum it up, I would recommend Instant Shine (maybe 2x), Instant Gentleman, and Instant Honesty 4x. Hmm, thanks Phya for that detailed explaination 🙂 I will think about your recommendations. Most likely [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 4x as i got a tight budget. Thanks again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/6 "2008-04-24T21:52:46Z")
Just curious, how many shots of each do you plan on applying once you have purchased it ---
**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/7 "2008-04-24T21:58:32Z")
This question is for gegogi. How many sprays of Ammo2X do you wear. How many sprays of TUTH2X do you wear ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/8 "2008-04-25T01:26:45Z")
> [@](#): > > know the question was directed at Gegogi, but I can answer that question for you. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is (Please correct if I’m wrong) roughly 30% alpha-nols and 70% beta-nols. CTTM is 50/50 alpha-nols/beta-nols. Well you asked to be corrected LOL IH has 4 human mones in it. 70% bnol but not 30%anol although I believe it has anol in it. IO contains 2 human mones in it. It is anol heavy. CTTM is simular to a 50/50 mix of IO and IH only because it has both anol and bnol but it dosnt have the other added mones which MH has mentioned can make it rougher around the edges in a way. So its not exactly the same as using say 2 sprays of IH and 2 sprays of IO. I suggest you do not get Double AMMO. This is a anone product and your first experience with it should be at the lower dosage. When anone is involved its easier for a new person to work up them to work down with the product. Ishine and IO in double should be fine. I suggest IH in 2X the first time and if you find you need more then 2 sprays get 4X the next time. I use 4X now myself but have been using mones longer and high bnols can give you a total head rush. Dirty for men is a oil based product. Works good on a subtle level but it does have a strong copulin smell that is not always pleasant to the wearer so you will have to cover it. This mix gives you that Player aura. Like you have just been intimate with a women. May be a good choice for you after reading the discriptions on your friends before. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/9 "2008-04-25T05:42:35Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Well you asked to be corrected LOL Haha, yes I did. May I have one more mistress? Oops..I’m letting my kink show. Heh, just playing.. Thanks for clairifying. I doubt I would have received such detailed information otherwise. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/10 "2008-04-25T10:56:25Z")
> [@jayzee327](#): > > Just curious, how many shots of each do you plan on applying once you have purchased it Well jayzee, for your question just two or three shots together with my other combination. Thanks for asking. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 11:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-heavy-ammo-double-strength-instant-honesty-quadruple-strength-cttm2/11752/11 "2008-04-25T11:12:48Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Well you asked to be corrected LOL > > Instant Honesty has 4 human pheromones in it. 70% Beta Androstenol but not 30%Alpha Androstenol although I believe it has Alpha Androstenol in it. > > Instant Openness contains 2 human pheromones in it. It is Alpha Androstenol heavy. > > CTTM is simular to a 50/50 mix of Instant Openness and Instant Honesty only because it has both Alpha Androstenol and Beta Androstenol but it dosnt have the other added pheromones which MH has mentioned can make it rougher around the edges in a way. So its not exactly the same as using say 2 sprays of Instant Honesty and 2 sprays of Instant Openness. > > I suggest you do not get Double AMMO. This is a Androstenone product and your first experience with it should be at the lower dosage. When Androstenone is involved its easier for a new person to work up them to work down with the product. > > Instant Shine and IO in double should be fine. I suggest IH in 2X the first time and if you find you need more then 2 sprays get 4X the next time. I use 4X now myself but have been using pheromones longer and high bnols can give you a total head rush. > > Dirty for men is a oil based product. Works good on a subtle level but it does have a strong copulin smell that is not always pleasant to the wearer so you will have to cover it. This mix gives you that Player aura. Like you have just been intimate with a women. May be a good choice for you after reading the discriptions on your friends before. > > Tisha Hello lady Tisha, thanks for the detailed explaination 😃 Really appreciate that 🙂 I will think about what you said. Thanks once again 🙂