# thoughts & questions =) **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [June 19, 2011, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812 "2011-06-19T06:28:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pinkconfetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@pinkconfetti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pinkconfetti)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/1 "2011-06-19T06:28:43Z")
placed my first order 2 days ago and can’t wait to test the items out =) Ordered the To-Go sizes for IS/B IH IS double strength IO double strength it was such a heart ache to pay $20 for shipping as $20 can buy me 2 IO in single strength. luckily i remembered the $25 GC! thank you Androtics!!! Also ordered EOW, but starting to fret abit now. I worry that i will be out of IS/B and IO by the time EOW arrived as i went for the cheapest option of $7 first class international shipping. It didn’t make sense to me to pay more for shipping than the actual product. i’m treating this journal as a place where i can put my thoughts and questions, so it isn’t a pure reporting journal. i hope the moderators will be ok with that. ---
**Author:** ![pinkconfetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@pinkconfetti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pinkconfetti)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/2 "2011-06-19T06:30:57Z")
Tisha’s reply to my question on whether pheros work differently on different races. > [@tisha23](#): > > Now from what I have observed from my own experience. Keep in mind I am not Asian. Asian men tend to attract to a soft vibe in women. Things like TAH, P74, IS/B, EST P86 seems to attract them. Socials also do well like anol and bnol which would be IO and IH. > > I noticed heavy copulin mixes tend to repel or produce no results. Masculine mones on a women even in low dose seems to repel them from me. P83 didnt go over well with the Asian guys I work with. > > Now this is just my observations but it may give you a indication of what kind of products to try first and what not to try till later. > > Tisha ---
**Author:** ![pinkconfetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@pinkconfetti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pinkconfetti)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/3 "2011-06-19T06:33:45Z")
Astrea’s reply to my question about the effects of pheros. my question : [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) affect everyone around us. If we wear IS, everyone will be more relaxed. What if we wear IS/B? Will the person find the wearer of the pheromone sexier or will he find everyone in the group more attractive? > [@pheromones for asians](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-asians/50802/6): > > **No, he won’t. On a subconscious level, everyone will “look” for the originator of the mones - that’s how you end up with the attention! 😃 That’s why we wear them, so we single ourselves out without doing the attention seeking actively. Remember, mones won’t MAKE anyone do anything against their will or nature. So you don’t need to worry about your guy ‘sniffing at’ other women, he’ll know subconsciously it’s you, consciously you’ll “look stunning today” 😉** > > **Does that help? Feel free, please, to ask, post questions. K?** ---
**Author:** ![pinkconfetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@pinkconfetti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pinkconfetti)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/4 "2011-06-19T06:35:50Z")
another piece of Astrea’s replies that I find important ( i know this doesn’t count towards journally but this is for my own journey ) Congrats! After you find your sweet spot with you, your dude and IS/B; find the shine sweet spot and the IH one. This is gonna be a nice combo with 1) the allure of IS/B, 2) you’re both gonna be put in happy, shiny moods with IS and 3) [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) will encourage the kind of communication that deepens bonds. ---
**Author:** ![pinkconfetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@pinkconfetti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pinkconfetti)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/5 "2011-06-19T06:37:37Z")
another piece of Astrea’s replies that I find important ( i know this doesn’t count towards journally but this is for my own journey ) > [@pheromones for asians](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-asians/50802/6): > > Congrats! After you find your sweet spot with you, your dude and IS/B; find the shine sweet spot and the IH one. This is gonna be a nice combo with 1) the allure of IS/B, 2) you’re both gonna be put in happy, shiny moods with IS and 3) Instant Honesty will encourage the kind of communication that deepens bonds.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![pinkconfetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@pinkconfetti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pinkconfetti)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/6 "2011-06-19T06:45:13Z")
Astrea, you’re astute! I was wondering if I should test out the pheros when we are alone or with others. I’m pretty sure he is more than willing to check other hot babes out and i don’t want to encourage that 😛 😛 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/7 "2011-06-19T07:52:33Z")
> [@pinkconfetti](#): > > Astrea, you’re astute! I was wondering if I should test out the pheros when we are alone or with others. I’m pretty sure he is more than willing to check other hot babes out and i don’t want to encourage that 😛 😛 😛 My personal thought on what I would do is: both! My overall plan was to see how they went in public first, then to see what happened with people I knew. It didn’t quite work out that way, but close enough. He may take a little longer to show a reaction, because he knows you and has his own established idea of who you are, etc. So, you will probably get more outside in the beginning. Then when he gets used to your new “[pheromone](https://a314.com/) signature” you’ll get some bites. Love bites 😛. But here’s the thing - if he’s checking out other hot babes, he’s gonna turn around and find other guys checking YOU, the hot babe, out. 😉 What’s sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![pinkconfetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@pinkconfetti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pinkconfetti)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 10:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/8 "2011-06-23T10:53:07Z")
My package is here!!! nothing beats receiving a package at the end of a work day _dance_ Thank you Androtics! Thank you Phero Hero! I have no idea who u are - tried searching for you but thank you, thank you, thank you for the the extra IS/B =) I’m going to save bottle 2 for when EoW arrive! I’m having a runny nose today so my sense of scent is off =) The To Go bottles reminds me of a guy’s cologne, a cheap one too 😛 I’m surprised by this as I was expecting a sweet scent (from reading other people’s post) or the smell of neroli EO itself. It’s very male, a tad spicy, with a slight tinge of effervescent, makes me think of 7-up! [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) I sniffed at Instant Openness a few times while trying to describe the scent and i’m giggling like a kid for no reason of all. Will be testing out something tonight - just have to decide which one! * * * Decided to test IS/B. 1 spray to the wrist, dab onto other wrist and dab some on my neck. 1 spray to my hair. I was surprised by the amt of liquid that came out with just 1 spray. While reading Tisha’s posts on application method, i was wondering how we could possibly spray and spread, now i totally get it! Effects to self. Nothing at first, the only thoughts that went through my mind was.. will people be asking why i’m wearing a male cologne?!? Walked out of my room and my helper laughed and asked about my male cologne. She said it smells like men’s deodorant to her… not good!! I took a couple of long sniff from my arm and immediately felt shy, I could even feel my cheeks blushing. I’m not sure if this is due to IS/B or my mind wanting to feel this way. Time will tell. However, it does seem that I have to take very close sniff to get any effect. Strange to me as I had thought that the pheromones aren’t carried to our system via the scent itself… Effects to others. This had a strange effect on my SO (significant other). IS/B is supposed to make him feel protective and caring… instead he became chauvinistic. In a 3.5hr period, he asked me to 1. to carry something for him into the kitchen. i was so shocked by the request that i asked him why. he told me cos there were people within earshot. 2. cut cooked chicken up into tiny pieces and serve it to him. this was in a restaurant. i can’t express my surprise at this, he usually likes to fuss over my food and has never ever asked me to help him with his. in fact, i have a hard time telling him NOT to help me slice/mix/etc my food. 3. wash and peel a fruit for him to eat. this was the last surprise of the evening and i commented that he has never made such a request before. in fact, he has TURNED down my offer of fruits numerous times! His response was that it wasn’t too much to ask to be served once in 5 years and he wanted to see how it feels. In 5 years of relationship, he has never made such requests. He is the guy that is more than happy and capable of taking care of himself. He hates to be fussed over… I am 90% sure this is the effects of IS/B as this has never happened before. He is generally the guy that will tell me NOT to help him and let him do things himself… Perhaps I need to use some EoW or another pheromone with IS/B… Edited to ask : what’s a good cover scent for the To-Gos? The male cologne scent is driving me up the wall. I tried to cover it with Bvlgari’s Petit Et Mamans but it clashed horribly. I also have Hanae Mori Butterfly that is a strong and sweet vanilla perfume and it clashed as well. ( HM reminds me of pink sugar) ---
**Author:** ![OutreDame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed8c4c/32.png) [@OutreDame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OutreDame)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/9 "2011-06-23T17:20:05Z")
Wooow…what an interesting reaction from your SO!!! I would give it a couple days, then try it again to see if he does that yet again, to find out if it was a fluke or its really giving him that vibe to act that way. So out of the blue and crazy though, Im sure you werent exactly loving that! I wonder, thinking about it..the IS/b is supposed to be that softer kittenish kind of vibe, with like you said that effect to want to be protective and caring. I wonder if in some way, that softer kittish vibe comes off as submissive to your SO, and thats why hes reacting that way? ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/10 "2011-06-24T03:50:43Z")
> [@pinkconfetti](#): > > **In a 3.5hr period, he asked me to** > > 1. **to carry something for him into the kitchen. i was so shocked by the request that i asked him why. he told me cos there were people within earshot.** > 2. **cut cooked chicken up into tiny pieces and serve it to him. this was in a restaurant. i can’t express my surprise at this, he usually likes to fuss over my food and has never ever asked me to help him with his. in fact, i have a hard time telling him NOT to help me slice/mix/etc my food.** > 3. **wash and peel a fruit for him to eat. this was the last surprise of the evening and i commented that he has never made such a request before. in fact, he has TURNED down my offer of fruits numerous times! His response was that it wasn’t too much to ask to be served once in 5 years and he wanted to see how it feels.** O.M.G.!!! WHAT a thing to confront your first use! 😮 You’re so nice! I would have asked WTF was wrong with his legs. I think OutreDame has a good idea. Play with something else and try the IS/B in a couple of days; maybe halfway through the day, so you know where his ‘mood’ is at. Then duck off and apply some, then see if he becomes delusional again . . . omg. I’m so sorry, but this is **so** off the wall, I started laughing in disbelief. Oh! Not at you or the story, but the extreme reaction of his Lordship. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ETPhHm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8dc957/32.png) [@ETPhHm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ETPhHm)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/11 "2011-06-24T04:04:19Z")
> [@pinkconfetti](#): > > Edited to ask : what’s a good cover scent for the To-Gos? The male cologne scent is driving me up the wall. I tried to cover it with Bvlgari’s Petit Et Mamans but it clashed horribly. I also have Hanae Mori Butterfly that is a strong and sweet vanilla perfume and it clashed as well. ( HM reminds me of pink sugar) Hey pinkconfetti, I was just reading this and I decided to try something. I went up to my wife’s tray of perfumes and I decide to put one of hers over the top of the IS which I can still smell on my wrists. OK, ok, I don’t dress-up in her clothing or anything; its late and I’m in for the night, no one is going come over unexpectedly so I can get away with this. 😛 Have you ever had the pleasure of smelling Byblos? (just the regular in the blue tapered bottle). Well it is my fav and I buy it for my bride and won’t dare let her run out. If you don’t care for sweet and fruity (but I mean more of a luxurious version of that) then this might not be for you… but anyway, after putting this on top of the IS on my wrists, I thought it was a fabulous classy combo for a woman to wear and it just added a hint of spice but not clashy or anything. I would seriously follow a woman around if she was wearing this. Maybe I will spike my wife’s perfume, hmmm… Oh sorry. Uhhm, I’m only wondering if this would be right for a workplace environment; maybe too provocative if you went too heavy. OK UPDATE: while I am typing this about 30 minutes after a light Byblos topping, I realize the IS is starting to take back over; not offensive just not as pleasing for a woman’s scent as it was during the first 30 minutes. So you may need to go with heavier sprays of the topping or more frequent light sprays. Hope this might work for ya friend! ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/12 "2011-06-24T04:48:03Z")
> [@ETPhHm](#): > > Hey pinkconfetti, I was just reading this and I decided to try something. I went up to my wife’s tray of perfumes and I decide to put one of hers over the top of the IS which I can still smell on my wrists. OK, ok, I don’t dress-up in her clothing or anything; its late and I’m in for the night, no one is going come over unexpectedly so I can get away with this. 😛 > > Have you ever had the pleasure of smelling Byblos? (just the regular in the blue tapered bottle). Well it is my fav and I buy it for my bride and won’t dare let her run out. If you don’t care for sweet and fruity (but I mean more of a luxurious version of that) then this might not be for you… but anyway, after putting this on top of the IS on my wrists, I thought it was a fabulous classy combo for a woman to wear and it just added a hint of spice but not clashy or anything. I would seriously follow a woman around if she was wearing this. Maybe I will spike my wife’s perfume, hmmm… > > Oh sorry. Uhhm, I’m only wondering if this would be right for a workplace environment; maybe too provocative if you went too heavy. OK UPDATE: while I am typing this about 30 minutes after a light Byblos topping, I realize the IS is starting to take back over; not offensive just not as pleasing for a woman’s scent as it was during the first 30 minutes. So you may need to go with heavier sprays of the topping or more frequent light sprays. > > Hope this might work for ya friend! OMG completely off topic and I apologise. The people in this country amaze me on a daily basis. 95% of the time it’s good. Do you realise, girls, in Oz the average guy wouldn’t even think of buying a perfume for his girl let alone her fave (let alone remember that she wears perfume!) **and** keeping her stocked? The visuals (test equation) bring to mind the unkempt hair (brushing is for sissys); sweaty, in a more than likely dirty A shirt (singlet) and some nasty old shorts - not board shorts, indeterminate length somewhere in the middle of the thigh - dirty bare feet and scratching his crotch, trying on a perfume to see if it would work for a fem he doesn’t know? The next thing that comes to mind is: When hell freezes over! The average guy there would look at you as if you were speaking Sanskrit at him. Just a blank stare, and when you were done with the question would ask: “Is there beer?” I love it here for so many reasons. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![OutreDame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed8c4c/32.png) [@OutreDame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OutreDame)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/13 "2011-06-24T05:15:47Z")
Holy cow Astrea…thats guys in Seattle you mean? Aye!!! Yeah, Im not sure I could find love amongst that lol! Now that is super sweet ETPhHM that you make sure to keep your lady stocked with her fav perfume 😃 Definitely though, my ex was all about popping into VS with me to buy perfumes and lotions for me… And because I really like essential oils and natual products, whenever we’d pass an interesting looking shop with stuff like that, hed want to buy me something from there. My ex before that actually liked going clothes shopping with me too. Now that to me was wild…Im horrible to go clothes shopping with. I hate how I look in everything and it always puts me in a bad mood lol But I digress 😃 Im absolutely fascinated with pink sugar…Im going to have to get that asap. As far as I hear, it goes well with neroli and men go crazy over it. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/14 "2011-06-24T05:49:05Z")
> [@OutreDame](#): > > Holy cow Astrea…thats guys in Seattle you mean? Aye!!! Yeah, Im not sure I could find love amongst that lol! NO! No, no. Oz. I said the guys in Oz. Oz = Australia. It’s how the locals refer to it. Australian guys are some of the most unfinished in the western world. My best friend was accused of being gay. For what, you ask? For being a slick dresser and being able to dance. That was considered ‘gay’. And no, no love for me over there. Absolutely no offense intended by the above statement to any and all people of whatever sexual orientation, dressing preferences or dancing capabilities. ---
**Author:** ![OutreDame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed8c4c/32.png) [@OutreDame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OutreDame)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/15 "2011-06-24T12:35:16Z")
LMFAO @your disclaimer 😃 Ooh okay, I was kind of wondering what you meant by oz, I thought that was a locals name for seattle or something..ahh! Okay, thanks for clarifying that, because I _really_ want to move to Seattle for a hot minute!! ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/16 "2011-06-25T04:14:52Z")
> [@OutreDame](#): > > LMFAO @your disclaimer 😃 Ooh okay, I was kind of wondering what you meant by oz, I thought that was a locals name for seattle or something..ahh! Okay, thanks for clarifying that, because I _really_ want to move to Seattle for a hot minute!! Seattle is called Emerald City and I came from Oz 😃😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![OutreDame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed8c4c/32.png) [@OutreDame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OutreDame)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/17 "2011-06-25T06:08:49Z")
> [@Astrea](#): > > Seattle is called Emerald City and I came from Oz 😃😃😃 Hahaha!! That is quite something!!! I love that!😛 ---
**Author:** ![pinkconfetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@pinkconfetti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pinkconfetti)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/18 "2011-07-01T06:59:01Z")
=) please go on, there are no off topics on my thread! been sick with the flu - shivers, fever, aching joints and a block nose, so nothing to report for now. received my EoW… oh my.. how in the world do we use this? i can smell it through my blocked nose and my stomach turned… we will definitely get attention if we wear this alone, except i don’t think it is the kind of attention any girl want 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/19 "2011-07-01T08:25:34Z")
> [@OutreDame](#): > > Hahaha!! That is quite something!!! I love that!😛 Signs and Portents section: When booking my plane ticket to come here; as you all know (well, the Americans, anyway) Washington is the Evergreen state. The best deal I could get for my airfare was on . . . . **Evergreen Airlines!!! Signs or what? There was only 2 of us in coach, I was the only white person - Evergreen is either Chinese or Taiwanese, not sure which and not really bothered. When we landed in Taipei, the majority of first class disembarked and the other girl in coach. When we boarded for the second leg - Taipei to Seattle - I was asked by the lead flight attendant “If I wouldn’t mind doing them a favor and moving into first class, so that they could clean up coach for an early finish when we got to Seattle” 🆒 !!!** **As you all know, it’s always politic to help out your flight attendants . . . 😃** ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 8:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812/20 "2011-07-01T08:26:54Z")
> [@pinkconfetti](#): > > =) please go on, there are no off topics on my thread! > > been sick with the flu - shivers, fever, aching joints and a block nose, so nothing to report for now. > > received my EoW… oh my.. how in the world do we use this? i can smell it through my blocked nose and my stomach turned… we will definitely get attention if we wear this alone, except i don’t think it is the kind of attention any girl want 😛 PM Tisha23. She advises about mones, is a mone coach and has (I seem to remember) helped a few of the fems here with advice on EoW and how to use it. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-questions/50812.md?page=2)