# Three Blind Mice! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 16, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107 "2009-03-16T02:41:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/1 "2009-03-16T02:41:52Z")
This should be a rather unique reporting experiment, with testing and reporting from CookieGirl, Happykitsune and Sillykitty. All three are relatively new to the forum and to [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), and all three are jumping in head first and testing completely blind, with no knowledge of what they are testing or what to expect! Each have 4 unmarked to-go bottles containing a variety of Putatives, Experimones or known Pheromones. Several of the products being tested were chosen to contrast the effects and possible similarities of other pheros or molecules, a couple were chosen because there was limited or no recent reporting on, and several were selected just for fun. The only markings on the bottles are listed as Test Bottles 1 - 12, and in the case of bottles containing single molecules the mcg per spray levels are provided so that the girls can include in their reports the dosage tested. Jasmin, Steve, Tisha and myself are the only ones that know what the bottles contain, and only so that assistance can be offerred, if they have trouble getting a grasp on using or testing a particular bottle. At the completion of their testing the contents of each of the bottles will be released to all that are interested. Check back soon to see how the ladies are faring and and maybe offer a tip or two along the way. Let the fun begin! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/2 "2009-03-16T07:51:58Z")
**TEST BOTTLE** #8 (First Day) **Product scent and strength:** [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), 10mcg/spray **Application dosage and locations:** **9:45am** - _3 sprays (30mcg, wrists, neck, chest)_ Almost immediate self effect of slight light-headedness **10:00am** - self effect - a little giddy now Environment: Home with grouchy son/wife starting out in a bad mood. I sit down, closest to her. Tension dissipates (this later confirmed by a friend who was in that room before I was, who definitely noticed the change in atmosphere shortly after I entered) Also, my frequent Saturday (and sometimes whole weekend) anxiety/guilt of ā€œclean-my-room-paperwork-bills-get-stuff-ready-to-do-taxes, etc, etcā€ that often prevents me from even considering doing anything relaxing or fun is not bothering me quite as badly (though its still there a little) **10:30am** - small headache, which is still there half an hour later, at which point (11:00am) I take 3 Excedrin Migraine, which works like a charm. Still a bit lightheaded and a little giddy. My friend offers me a small glass of beer, which I drink šŸ™‚ Slight ā€œPied piperā€ effect. Cat who doesnā€™t normally hang out by me, comes by me, wants to sit on my lap. **11:45am** - _1 more spray to front/chest area_ (because I put on a jacket so might have covered some of my earlier sprays) **12:15pm** - My friend and I finally leave to go do errands in my truck. This change in environment seems to kick in the giddiness a little more. I tell her about the blind test, and give _her 2 sprays (1 neck/chest, 1 wrists)._ Driving along, we start to get silly. We pass someoneā€™s house that we know, and though nobody is visible, and my truck windows are rolled up, we both say merrily, ā€œHi!! Hello!ā€ as we pass. We drive slowly on this residential road, and slow down even more to avoid hitting a bunch of chickens that are cruising around. We sing out, ā€œHi chickens!!ā€, smiling and laughing (anyone hearing us would think we are nuts!) At this point we look at each other, realizing that we are definitely **not** being normal. OMG, are we high?? Not quite light-headed, definitely giddy, way too cheerful, slightly stoned. We feel like we are slightly obnoxious. As though we might be irritating to anyone who would witness this behavior (though we are having a blast). We are also noticing things more. Like the chickens, who are always on (and in) that road. **12:30pm** - We arrive at another friendā€™s house (my often-grouchy male friend) where a birthday party for an 8 year old girl is under way. I give myself _1 more spray_ (just to be sure). Not too many people there, thank goodness, because I (and my friend, I found out later) feel a slight anxiety as I walk through the gate and must say hi to male friendā€™s family members who I have only met briefly once or twice before. A kind of shyness/not-quite-self-consciousness, because I feel a little bit high (definitely not from the small glass of beer). No noticeable effects on others. Giddy, slightly stoned feeling continues for both of us. I have one beer at this stop. **1:30pm** - Returning the way we came, we pass the same friendsā€™ house that we said ā€œHiā€ to earlier, this time see someone outside, so we stop to really say hi for a minute. Two 4 year old girls are waiting in the back seat of a car in the driveway, about to go to the park/playground for a little while. My friend who was with me (and had 2 sprays) sticks her head in to say hi to the little girls. The little girls begin to display aggressive behavior. They begin to argue and act naughty. (my friend feels that her sprays had something to do with this, she is normally excellent with children) **2:00pm -** Arrive at shopping center _Me - 1 more spray (chest/neck), friend - 1 more spray (wrists)_ We decide to walk around in the slightly crowded food court (to get possible ā€œhitsā€ with the mystery molecule), but nothing noticeable (besides the self-effects, which are going strong) Same thing in the supermarket, basically silly self-effects, no discernable effects on others (although, we passed a very obviously gay female couple, one of whom totallychecked me out) **3:00pm** - my friend and I part ways (she will give me feedback later on anything else she experiences, if she does). I go to friendsā€™ house again, drink beer slowly throughout the afternoon/early evening, am quite silly (more than usual and its not the beer). _Effects on others -_ one female friend, not really drinking very much, is being very silly (way more than usual) too. She is pretty much right next to me a good part of the time I was there. We giggle and laugh (giggle??) **4:45pm** - effects starting to fade, I want more, so _2 more sprays (chest/neck, wrists)_ **8:00pm** - feeling good, _2 more sprays_, want to go out and do something, go out somewhere (besides someoneā€™s house), but just end up going home (kinda tipsy by now) Over the course of the day I had at least 10 sprays total (100+ mcg but spread over the day and evening and slightly overlapping) There is about half of the to-go bottle left. I believe duration is approximately 4 hours. **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** **TEST BOTTLE** #2 (First Day) **Product scent and strength:** Neroli, 5mcg/spray **Application dosage and locations:** **7:15am** - _2 sprays (10mcg, wrists, neck/chest)_ **Environment:** at home, at breakfast place **Self effects:** - cheerful, happy - feel like going out and doing something, and havenā€™t even had coffee yet! **Others:** - everyone at my house is in a wonderful mood (!!!) - three year old boy actually _wants_ to go take a walk with me and have breakfast with me - at the breakfast place (7:30am), we see someone from my work place and invite him to sit with us, and he actually does, then another person from the daily coffee gang there joins us too - three year old boy actually eats two whole pieces of french toast (lucky to get him to eat two bites of anything, normally) - ā€œPied Piperā€ effect - very strong, kitties wonā€™t leave me alone **A little later -** _2 more sprays (10 mcg, wrists and hair)_ **Environment:** home, friendā€™s house **Self effects:** cheerful, yet calm, feel like nothing can get me down or upset me, ā€œunflappableā€ **Others:** - three year old actually wants to hang out with me, _without_ mom and dad (unusual) - a conversation with a friend who is feeling extremely upset and grouchy, I cannot stand to see him feeling like this so off we go on a love/peace mission, friend calms down, thank goodness **A little later -** **Environment:** in the car, at the beach park - just as we arrive at beach, three year old starts crying and wants mommy and daddy _now_ - I quickly spray _1 spray to my chest/neck_, and _a half spray_ in the three year oldā€™s general direction - Less than a minute after I pick him up and start walking away from the car, he suddenly stops crying and becomes happy and calm The afternoon and evening proceed happily and calmly, I give myself another spray sometime mid-afternoon, no more crying or upset incidents occur, evening at home everyone is happy and content. **Duration of effects:** approximately 4 hours **Total dosage the whole day:** _approximately 40-50mcg_, somewhat spread out but overlapping, not sure how much Iā€™m ā€œwearingā€ at any given time, no [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) though, maybe because of the spread out overlap **Summary of effects:** calming, happy, unruffled, mellowing, very positive vibe **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** **TEST BOTTLE** #11 (First Day) **Product scent and strength:** _Turpentine scented (just kidding, I canā€™t tell what it is but thats kind of what it smells like), no dosage or strength listed on bottle_ _ **11:00am** _ - _3 sprays (wrists, neck/chest, hair)_ **Self effects:** _a little lightheadedness, otherwise nothing really noticeable_ **Effects on others:** _nothing really noticeable_ **Environment:** _at home, and the later running errands all day_ **12:45pm -** _1 more spray chest/neck_ **1:15pm -** 1 _more spray chest/neck_ - **self effects -** _calm, serious ??_ - **effects on others** - _nothing yet_ **3:30pm** _- 1 more spray, to hair_ **4:45pm** _- 1 more spray, to wrists_ **6:00pm** _- 1.5 more sprays, to neck_ **Environment:** _Out doing lots of quick errands all day, encountered numerous random sales clerks, etc, no noticeable effects_ **ā€œPied Piperā€ effect (animals following):** _minimal, if any_ **Total dosage:** _8.5 sprays spread out and overlapped over a period of 7 hours_ **Comments:** _Maybe this needs to be tested in a different environment, or maybe it needs to be mixed with something else in order to show its character_ Any suggestions or ideas on how to make this stuff reveal itself would be welcomed!! **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** **TEST BOTTLE** #12 (First Day) **Product scent and strength:** _Green apple (??), no mcgā€™s listed_ **Application dosage and locations:** **7:15am** - _3 sprays (wrists, neck/chest, hair)_ **Environment:** _at work_ **Self effects:** - _I go in the bathroom for a sec to dash on a little makeupā€¦looking in the mirror, I feelā€¦pretty!!!_ **Effects on others:** - _None obvious. at least that I can see_ **9:15am -** _1 more spray (wrists)_ **12:00pm -** _1 more spray (chest/neck)_ - _I have a slight headache, which persists until I finally take something for it a few hours later_ **2:00pm** - _1 more spray (wrists)_ - _I do this last spray right before going to see admin to discuss my upcoming vacation request, she seems okay, but then I keep it brief_ **4:30pm -** _1 more spray (chest/neck)_ - **Self effects:** _I feel a little cheerful, bouncy, sparkly_ - **Effects on others** :_Person I interact with is very cheerful too_ _ **PLEASE NOTE:** _ Follow-up sprays, in this and previous tests, are not done irresponsibly or randomly. They are applied at least a couple of hours apart, on the assumption that the substances are NOT cumulative, but gradually begin wearing off or fading from the time they are applied. If this assumption is faulty, please let me know. _This reapplication is done either to maintain the effects, if any are observed (as in Bottle_ #8 _and Bottle_ #2), _or to try to see an effect, because no effect, or minimal effect, is observed (as in Bottle_ #11 _and Bottle_ #12) **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** **BLIND BOTTLE** #2 _(second testing)_ **Product and dosage:** _Neroli (?), 5 mcg/spray_ _Approximately 4 hours_ **Environment:** _At work, in small hospital_ **Weather:** _Rainy, cold_ **7:15am:** _2 sprays, one to chest/neck, one split between wrists_ **Self-effects:** _Within just a few minutes, I felt more perky and cheerful (and I hadnā€™t had coffee yet)_ **Effects to others:** _Air conditioning guys, who never say much of anything when they come to repair/service talked and joked with me._ _Patients and co-workers were in a good mood, cheerful, happy._ **10:00am:** _1 spray, to neck area_ _Both self effects and effects to others continued on the same note, cheerful, upbeat_ **2:30pm:** _Effects, both self and to others, beginning to fade, so 2 more sprays, one to hair, one split between wrists_ _This began to fade after about 4 hours, this time I let it go_ _Later on, kind of tired, though rainy days can do that too_ **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** **Bottle** #12 **report** **Dosage and scent:** _Turpentine (?) scented, 3 short sprays, hair, chest, between wrists_ **Effects to self:** _Slightly tired, but I already felt that way when I woke up, like I could go back to bed._ _I got dressed after application, jeans and a hoodie (with hood up to hide messy hair)._ **Effects to others:** _Three year old insists on going to the post office with me, cheerful and well behaved (no close physical contact though, except to do his seat belt). However when we get back home, he does not want to get out of the car, but wants to just sit there. I say, let him sit there if he wants,its not hurting anything, but his dad makes him get out, crying ensues._ _At the post office, in line, a man initiates conversation. He is looking at me in that way, as though he wants to get to know me better. Remember, I am wearing a dull gray hoodie, hood up (to hide my morning hair), no makeup, I did not even brush my teeth yet (had to hurry to catch the PO before it closed)._ _The man catches up to me outside and wants to continue conversing. He says, ā€œHmm, I donā€™t know what to do with my dayā€ like a hint, as though Iā€™m supposed to say, ā€œHey, lets do something togetherā€ or something. He asks me what I do, I tell him I work at the local hospital, but am also looking for other work._ _He just happens to be a mortgage broker, and tells me that he happens to teach mortgage brokering, though right now that field is feast or famine. I say, cool, new skills are always good to have. Of course, he now needs my contact info (I give him my home phone only, not cell), and I finally end the interaction, get in the car and go home._ _At home, I feel the same tiredness, I could go back to bed, but unfortunately I have things to do today._ _ **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** _ **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/3 "2009-03-16T11:57:08Z")
Great reporting and style Sillykitty! And while Iā€™ve not tested lately or all that much with whatā€™s in bottle 8, but you seem to have queued into it right off the bat, and your observations are not surprising to me. I got a feeling that when the testings over and the bottles are revealed, there just may be a run on the store for the product that was in bottle 8! šŸ™‚ Keep up the good work! ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/4 "2009-03-16T12:43:33Z")
just posting to give kudos to the experiment and experimentors, and getting subscribed to this thread !!! party on, mice ! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/5 "2009-03-16T13:13:12Z")
I love this idea. There should be more experiments like this to steer people away from preconceptions. Great thread! ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/6 "2009-03-16T18:01:56Z")
_First off - I have to express my deep thanks to Mark, who deserved any and all thanks that may come from this experiment alone. None of this wouldā€™ve gone as smoothly without you, nor been as exciting. The friendly devotion that you have for Androtics and this forum sets an amazingly example for us newcomers, and Iā€™m so lucky to have run into you within my first step into these forums . I say all this with as much love and respect as I can conjure ~_ ## Now enough with the mushy mushy. šŸ˜ƒ KEY MAP (so far\*\*\*\*)\*\* - **Bottle 1 Blue** , **Bottle 9 Purple** , **Bottle 3** **March something something** Bottle 1 Not really a report as of yet because Iā€™ve just received my bottles. However, Iā€™ve sprayed some on for self effects. **Test bottle 1** ā€“ Sniffed for the very First Time ~ Bottle writes - ā€œ **15mcg/spray** ā€. I sprayed half a spray on my hand and gave it a sniff. My first reaction was very physical ā€“ I felt my vision shift rather subtly out of focus. Only for a couple seconds, however. Wondering if it was just the strong smell that created it, I scrubbed my hands and sprayed sexiness b on my other hand ā€“ gave it a smell. Nothing. Being paranoid as I am, I scrub IS/b off and try a tiny Ā¼ spray of the blind bottle again ā€“ deep inhale. I can feel my brain tingling. If I could give an off kilter description I would say that it feels like the back of my noggin is being tickled by a feather. Iā€™m in a light good mood and I find myself wanting to laugh. Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s because of the test spray or because Iā€™m glad I got any reaction at all ( thus slightly upping my chances that I wonā€™t make a phero-tastrophe of this test, just yet ! ) * * * **The day after march something something** Bottle 1 Alright ! Another new entry focusing on self effects yet again ~ I usually get a huge whiff of Bottle 1, who Iā€™ll endearingly call **B1** , when I spray it on my neck. The first response is always headfirst. I get giddy. Ticklish. Then it ā€œsinks inā€ deeper than most phero/molecules Iā€™ve tried, and I feel a sudden STRONG physical reaction throughout my body even down to my toes. At this point, there is a numb yet tingly feeling in my head. This reminds me of a time I had three glasses of champagne. If I concentrate enough, there are tiny tremors whipping throughout my head. This alone is pretty darn distracting. For example: Conversation with my boyfriend over the phone. I am in mid sentence, talking about a recent book Iā€™ve read. ā€œ I find myself amazed at how the author is able ..toā€¦. ā€œ And Iā€™ll pause, distracted by how heavy and fizzy I feel. Some time later, he brings up the recent school shooting in Germany. I am still oh so heavy. And Slow. I canā€™t conjure up an opinion or even an emotion like sympathy to keep up with this conversation. This makes me wonder if this [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is somewhat cold. Not in a sense that I feel like a robot towards every and anything. But because Iā€™m becoming so self focused that I canā€™t see anything else but me. I guess I am sorely unadjusted to this molecule. Also much like the champagne buzz, Iā€™m open to myself and what I want. Another example: I am thinking about sex. This is what happens when I feel heavy-lidded and tingly. This may or may not be related b1. Boyfriend ā€œā€¦ this is why I hate my partners, they never seem to get serious aboutā€¦ā€ _Mmā€¦ I want to pounce himā€¦_ Boyfriend ā€œ ā€¦and I looked at him and I said ā€™ Can we just get back to work please ?ā€™ heā€¦ā€ _He would look so much hotter naked right nowā€¦_ I continue to silently and mentally undress him Boyfriend ā€œ and Iā€™m thinkin I need to get out of jersey..everyone seems brain dead and undrivenā€¦ā€ _Okay I need to start paying attention. This is usually where he starts asking for my input. Although_ _I wonder what would happen if I purred in his ear and gave him a slow cheshire-like smileā€¦_ Boyfriend ā€œ You know what I mean ? ā€œ Me ā€œ Uhhhhhā€¦I, uhā€¦ They dont call it Dirty Jersey for nothinā€™ ? ā€œ _God Damnit._ **Sprays** - Mystery Bottle 1, 15 mcg 3 sprays **Application** - Two to neck, one shared between wrists **Target** - SO **Environment** - Living Room, sitting next to each other **Duration of Effects** - Cant tell yet * * * **Tuesday March 17th** Bottle 1 Sorry guys, Iā€™ve been meaning to stop by earlier. Iā€™m just up to my chin in finals, practical exams, projects, trying to balance two jobs and so on and so forth. Iā€™ve hardly had time to breathe, eat and excrete waste. Sorry, sorry, sorry ! Getting back to business, I decided to try **b1** with some TAF during my final practical exam. Iā€™ll mention why I needed some second helper because the deal is you walk into the classroom, pick a pastry/cake out of a hat and make it right there on the spot. No recipes, no notes, no guidelines. Needless to say I was a nervous wreck. **B1** seems to take on a different persona in the classroom. I find that it is easier to slide from one undertaking to the next, almost making me more levelheaded. I continuously kept my work area spic and span ( which I never ever do ) my chef jacket clean ( again..never) and I kept a watchful eye on the oven to make sure my Ć©clairs didnā€™t burn ( which I always always forget to do ). I am amazed at the accuracy of my memory that was somehow miraculously summoned during the entire length of the class ( again, I barely remember what I had for breakfast this morning). My teacher is the HARDEST pastry teacher in my entire school ā€“ the procedures must be right, the grace in which you perform must be spot on, and your speed must be breaking 14 knots at all times. He keeps a watchful eye on you during this test ( by that I mean, breathes over your neck). I felt a sense of grounding this time. I didnā€™t worry about other issues outside the classroom, or get hung up on a mistake I made. There was a ā€œfilterā€ that blocked off everything distracting. This may or with my luck, may not explain why I couldnā€™t get my mind off of sex in my last test. If I was smart enough to think of a word to describe this, I would use it. Oh ! And it turns out I got the highest score in the class with a whopping 98, unheard of in his classes. Thatā€™s compared to actual baking students ( Im culinary). Yeeeeeeeeeessss. Id give you guys a picture of the eclairs but I eated it all **Sprays** ā€“ bottle 1: 3 sprays + 1 more 2 hours into the exam / TAF: 10 mcg **Locations** ā€“ All on neck, back and front ( TAF still burns like no other ) **Atmosphere** ā€“ Kitchenz **Target** ā€“ Me getting a good grade **Effects on others** ā€“ Didnā€™t take notice, was too focused on my own pastries - Sorry #5 **Effects lasted** ā€“ About 3-4 hours. It hits hard and dwindles off slowly. Iā€™m disappointed that I didnā€™t get the same exact effects as on my first test. I sprayed one on my wrist later and let my boyfriend take a whiff. I asked ā€œ How does this make you feel? ā€œ And he quips with ā€˜arousingā€ before pulling me onto his lap, unaware that this is the same hodiggity response heā€™s had for all of my pheros . Sigh. ## Iā€™ve got another report for yaā€™ll tomorrow, Iā€™m just feelinā€™ like a sleepyhead right now ā˜¹ **Wednesday March 18** Bottle 9 Whoā€™s tired of hearing about B1 ? I sure am ! I decided to try **bottle 9**. You may be asking me why I am only on my second bottle of test tubes. Itā€™s because I have slow and sensual relationships with my phero-cules then get waaay too attached. ( Iā€™m a professional psychotic ex girlfriend) Okay so, **B9** smells like celery marinating in bleach. I didnā€™t like it very much and in fact it made me hungry for buffalo wings I tried it out while hanging out with my friend over her house. Usually when I ā€œhang outā€ with my friend, I do festive and stimulating activities like vegetate on her couch while she finishes up a project. If Iā€™m lucky enough to have some coffee beforehand, I might actually get up and grab myself a bag of chips. **B9** wasnā€™t having it, today. Almost 15 minutes after spraying it, I noticed that it acted like some sort of energy booster. It was immediately uplifting both physically and mentally. I am usually fatigued all day from morning to night time, and like clockwork, I will take naps on said friendā€™s couch. For the first time in a long LONG time, I wasnā€™t tempted to doze off in the least. B9 makes me feel energized but also, some what compliant. Not that Iā€™m an insatiable beast who demands virgin sacrificesā€¦ But I can be hot blooded. I found myself to be optimistic and placid when I usually wouldā€™ve been irritated. Also, I seemed less disappointed when things didnā€™t go exactly as planned that night. To my own surprise, I got up from the couch and immersed both of us in actual fun activites, like going out into town, shopping and eventually making dinner. I noticed that we both laughed more. It felt like we were much more amused by the extent of our own silliness than usual, and happy to accept it. I DO like this first report of bottle **9** so far and I hope my second testing goes this well! **Sprays** ā€“ Bottle 9 2 sprays One on neck, and one on wrist. Eventually added another one much later into the night (about 3 hours) **Environment** ā€“ Friendā€™s bedroom, dinner table, outside in the city, inside stores and bar **Target** ā€“ Me and pal **Duration of Effects** ā€“ 3 hours * * * **Monday March 23** Bottle 9 The. Finals. Are. Finally. Over. This means I can finally resume my social life for a total of 7 days ! You heard it right, seven **WHOLE** days. Just imagine all the Jeopardy reruns I can fit in during that extensive time period. I used up half my bottle of **numero 9** already. Iā€™m not even sure how, since itā€™s the same level as mx135 and Iā€™ve certainly used _that_ much more. ( and have gained little knowledge in truly understanding neither of them ) It has dawned on me that the deeper I delve into the ā€œ Ohemgee PHEROMONE ENTHUSIASTS ONLY !!11ā€ section of the Androtics line, the longer itā€™s taking for me to figure it out. No shit, I guessā€¦ **Bottle 9** still smells amazingly like celery. However, Iā€™m currently convinced that everyone likes the smell of celery peroxide. So far, Iā€™ve started up some nice conversation with this. I almost dare say the word charisma ? to describe this. Because normally when it comes to starting conversations with people I donā€™t know too well, I tend to answer with something inspiring, like ā€œ uhh..hahaha..? uhā€¦ā€œ But **b9** gets me talking, and helps my mouth deliver what my brain means to say, instead of turning things into an awkward clusterfcuk of words. I donā€™t feel as worn out and tired as I usually do, during the day. Cheerful. I feel more confident socially and from what Iā€™ve noticed, it has the same effect on others around me. The quiet ones talked and opened up much more, and I constantly see consistency with my last report. People are more upbeat and easier going. I hear A LOT of laughter around me, which is rare especially during the final stretch of the last semester. Iā€™d like to say **b9** makes me social. To be honest with you, I was nervous about being able to guess the correct self effects. Afterall, I donā€™t think anyone has stepped in and said ā€œ Youā€™re on the right track !! ā€œ which can only mean that Iā€™ve silenced the powers that be into a state of embarrassed shock with how totally wrong wrong wrong I am. But hey ! ā€¦ Alright Iā€™ve got nothing, but Iā€™ll hold on to my ā€œ But Iā€™m a unique individual with complex sensitivities !ā€ card for when I find out what these babies are. **Sprays** ā€“ Bottle 9 3 sprays, a fourth one added 3 hours later **Environment** ā€“ Cafeteria Table with fellow students, 1-3 feet away **Target** ā€“ Myself and other students (around 25-30 years old ) **Effects duration** ā€“ I felt it wear out around three hours, and then Iā€™m back to my tired self. * * * **Wednesday March 25** Bottle 9 I have yet to finish testing this bottle, but I will however mention what happened today - the results were somewhat ā€¦negative, to say the least. When I wonder about the consistency of my **B9** results thus far however, Iā€™ve been somewhat satisfied even with todayā€™s craptastic report. **Sprays:** B9, 3 sprays - all near chest area **Targets :** Me and Brother **Environment :** Bar **Time of day:** Night ( its a pretty big deal for me to add this little detail in - I an usually very fatigued at this time of day ) **Distance** - 3 feet **Effects Lasted:** 2-3 hours Iā€™ll begin with saying that I got into a fight with my brother, at a local bar ( no, not a bar fight ! ). When I first sprayed the bleachy yumminess that is **B9** , I felt energized again. Things are going good so far, and Iā€™ve been feeling the same way Iā€™ve previously reported. Iā€™m awake and feeling good, for once. Me and the brother arrive at Bar. Started talking ourselves into a rather frail and upsetting territory, and I noticed the mood slipping. Fast. And no matter what means I used to mentally regain the feelings of the nice relaxing evening, I was already irritated - at him, even going so far as blaming him for what could have been a great night. The difference here, from when I usually get angry is that I was talking ( perhaps spitting?) about a mile a minute. This reminds me of the clarity I get when I reported\*\* B9 \*\*earlier this week - Iā€™m more talkative in a sharper way, and much much more articulate, which, when combined with my angry hence snarky attitude means Iā€™ll gladly kick the walls of the bar down and take no hostages. I also have to mention that Iā€™m not usually like this with my brother, AT ALL. He is much older than me and extremely opinionated. Having been a bartender for many years, heā€™s acquired some sort of asshole persona that he can switch on and off, at will. To further my point ( that **b9** gave me the balls to get lippy)- when we use to argue as kids, Im usually left crying in my room in a hiccupy mess while he sits in his, cockily telling my livid mom " Thats what that bitch gets ". Tonight, was completely different. I was able to quickly calculate where the conversation was heading and retorting like-wise rather than get caught up in the emotional trip. So, in temporary conclusion Iā€™ll add that while **B9** tends to give me a more lively and happy-go-lucky vibe, it also helps ease conversations. Or you know, arguements. * * * **Monday, March 30** **BOTTLE 3** Iā€™m past due for reporting this particular one. This might not be a full report, but Iā€™d like to voice what I think of it so far in a small test run Iā€™ve had. Iā€™d like to know if maybe Iā€™m heading in the right direction with this one, mark šŸ˜› **Sprays** - B3, 1 spray on neck + 1 spray about 8 hours later **Environment** - Movie, long car ride **Distance** - Very close contact, practically side by side **Targets** - Myself and the boyfriend **Effects lasted** - Couldnā€™t really determine I had a nice little dinner date with the boyfriend, today. We went to go watch a movie, and took a nice drive down Kelly Drive since the weather was less disgusting than it usually was ( which doesnā€™t say much, sorry Philly ) The smell isā€¦ somewhat difficult to get over. I feel as though I should be applying it on a cut or bruise thanā€¦ on my neck, really unless rubbing alcohol is totally ā€œinā€. It does fade after some time, though. This isā€¦ mellow. Alittle spacey. This is where I make a comparison to Spaceland but I cant because I havenā€™t had the time to buy the darn thing yet ā˜¹ ( watch, itā€™ll be out of stock when I make my rounds!) It was a great phero/mix/putative/whatever for the relaxing long ride. I lost my cell phone today, and couldnt even care less. Im not sure if **B3** is responsibleā€¦ Same goes for the long long shift I have in approximately 5 hours. ( I just sprayed another one, about 8 hours apart ) Im feeling good. However, Iā€™d like to try this in the high stress environment, like say work. Maybe itā€™ll have a completely different persona. * * * **New Update !!,** **April 13th** **BOTTLE 3** Thank god Easter is finally over. My parents have had the chance to meet up with my boyfriendā€™s parents over Easter, an event during which I wanted to resume fetal position under a table, and cover my eyes. There were two good things that happened during this momentous train wreck - A. My parents have now been officially introduced to my boyfriendā€™s parents, hence adding a whole level of ā€œseriousnessā€ to our relationship ( well, in _ **their** _ eyes, anyway ) B. I have reached tremendous new heights of embarrassment, ensuring my newly found confidence in other normal things that would of typically made me shy. Suddenly, \*other things donā€™t seem so bad. With my spring quarter starting, Ive had to opportunity to test **B3** out in the kitchen ! Iā€™ve only been to class a few days ago, so this one is fairly recent ( then again, considering my habit of reporting things that happened weeks ago ā€¦ ) Iā€™d like to extend my last report of b3 because Iā€™ve noticed, again, that I tend to space out and become mellow. The reason for this spaceyness, surprisingly, is because my focus takes pin point precision. Minutes from spraying this baby on, my friendā€™s voice became louder, reached me with more clarity. It was somewhat distracting because the change was so noticeable and sudden, for me. My senses seemed to sharpen, and I momentarily forgot my usual tiredness. I almost felt cuddly, too. Of course, Iā€™m not sure how the spray could have incited that response for me, so Iā€™l leave that speculation alone until I notice it again. But I felt that I should mention that. During the lecture, I found myself easily paying attention instead of scrawling doodles on a corner of my notebook. I was more observant with my food, making it easy for me to pick up on a consommeā€™s ā€œdonenessā€. I DID noticed that I had a tendency to hang over the stove that day ( what we call ā€œwatching the foodā€) rather than running around, trying to multi task. I am unsure about peopleā€™s reactions. I was in a new quarter with completely new people, so Im afraid of saying anything about them under a poor understanding of how these classmates act, _normally._ Iā€™m not so sure about using **b3** socially, however. It doesnā€™t seem so fun to me, as it came off on me more with a dazed seriousness that I dont normally associate with ā€œfunā€ and ā€œhappyā€. **Sprays** - B3, 1 spray on neck (50 mcg) **Environment** - Kitchen, Classroom environment **Distance** - Very close contact, practically side by side **Targets** - Myself, possibly some classmates **Effects lasted** - 3 hours I wonder if I should ask Mark about some of my earlier bottles. Iā€™m getting pretty curious about themā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Maromi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/maromi/32/809_2.png) [@Maromi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maromi)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/7 "2009-03-16T18:33:57Z")
This is so cool!! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/8 "2009-03-16T18:51:55Z")
Oooohh, this is fun. šŸ™‚ I think I might know what one of these isā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/9 "2009-03-16T18:55:12Z")
No need for the mushy stuff CookieGirl. It was your idea that started this, and all I did was offer to help out a bit. Besides, it was such a totally cool idea, how could I not want to be involved in some way? šŸ™‚ Great reporting! Can we read into your report that so far bottle #1 intensifies your focus and makes you want to pursue whatever is on your mind? ---
**Author:** ![bluethorn13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bluethorn13/32/1351_2.png) [@bluethorn13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bluethorn13)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/10 "2009-03-16T19:49:36Z")
Iā€™m curious if any bottles are controls? without pheros so to speak? I get that you canā€™t really say what is in each so as not to throw off the blind part of the test. but my curiosity is peaked. šŸ˜› See if the girls with the control still get " hits" I will definatley keep checking back! ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/11 "2009-03-16T19:57:34Z")
> [@bluethorn13](#): > > Iā€™m curious if any bottles are controls? without pheros so to speak? I get that you canā€™t really say what is in each so as not to throw off the blind part of the test. but my curiosity is peaked. šŸ˜› See if the girls with the control still get " hits" > > I will definatley keep checking bag! None of the bottles are controls and all do contain pheros or Putatives. Blind testing for placebo effects could make for another interesting experiment though. But, who knows, some of those freebies that Androtics includes in orders could very well be pheroless controls, just to check up on our perception abilities and testing skills. šŸ™‚ And the forum empties as everyone runs to their medicine cabinets to start huffing on their little magic bottles and trying to detect some sort of phero odor buried under the cover scent. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![bluethorn13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bluethorn13/32/1351_2.png) [@bluethorn13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bluethorn13)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/12 "2009-03-16T20:12:05Z")
Iā€™m still awaiting my first order, so I donā€™t know how my nose will or wonā€™t perceive them. I got excited because there was a box in the mail but its just my cover scents I ordered. Le Sigh. As much as I hated science in highschool I reckon Iā€™ve found a new love for it in andriotics producs and research.šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/13 "2009-03-16T20:32:28Z")
I do have a report for TEST BOTTLE #2, but that will have to be later on this afternoon evening. So far, Bottle #8 and #2. Bottle #8 has about half left, and Bottle #2 has between a third and a half (I must say, Bottle #2 made for a very interesting day, but I will tell all later today when I can sit down and do a full report.) Also, they will each get another day of blind testing, at least. (so please donā€™t say what they are yetā€¦also donā€™t say yet, because Happykitsune and CookieGirl, those smartypants girls šŸ™‚ , might be able to figure out what they do have based on what they donā€™t have (because I have it!))\_ Now I have to go run around and do things out and about, I have #11 and #12. Eeny, meenie minie moeā€¦which one shall I choose??? Help me pick, I have to take a shower first anyway before I sprayā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![bluethorn13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bluethorn13/32/1351_2.png) [@bluethorn13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bluethorn13)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/14 "2009-03-16T20:39:54Z")
I vote #11. not sure why but it has my vote šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/15 "2009-03-16T20:42:47Z")
Eeep, Iā€™m still here, I have got to get in the shower and get going or I will get nothing done, and get home really late ā˜¹ Okay, one vote for #11!!! ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/16 "2009-03-16T21:30:19Z")
I vote for 23! šŸ™„ šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/17 "2009-03-16T21:51:44Z")
Oops, youre too late, Mark!! 11 it is, and I even gave my DIL a spray to her hair, now its my turn. Yes, 11 plus 12 do equal 23, but I think Iā€™ll try them separately first!! šŸ˜‰ Eew, its almost noon and Iā€™m still home, okay Iā€™m outta hereā€¦laters alligators.. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/18 "2009-03-16T22:06:45Z")
**Bottle** #10 **Day 1** **Product name,scent and strength** Test Bottle #10 (doesnā€™t say what the scent or strength is, but I think I can guess the scent) **Application dosage and locations** 4 sprays (2 neck, wrists, temples) **Enviroment tested in.** Resturaunt, momā€™s car, store, class **Self effects.** A lot of different self effects throughout the time I wore this. First I was mentioning things I normally donā€™t mention to my mom and reading signs I normally wouldnā€™t read. She said I was very observant, but then I made a comment that I was always very observant, but just didnā€™t speak my mind about it. Then again I was able to find where the shavers were in Walgreens super fast (like as soon as I got in the door). I also spaced out while she was talking to me one of the times and didnā€™t even know what she was talking about. Later I was walking to my class and I got a burst of happiness like I need once when I combined IH and IO. Then there was in classā€¦ I started to feel pretty relaxed and it was very hard to focus on his lectures, which are usually very interesting, but I could not focus. I started doodling just too see what effect that had on me and I totally just forgot he was talking and was in my own little world. It took me a while to realize I needed to listen, and even then I was likeā€¦ā€œUgh, I just wanna lay down and relaxā€. My actions were so slow and I was one of the last ones out of the room. I seriously think if I would have fallen asleep I wouldnā€™t have wanted to get up. On the way back to my dorm I started to realize that it wasnā€™t really that I was noticing things more, but that my internal monologue was really REALLY loud and active. I was commenting to myself about everything. I think if I had been at a party or around my good friends I probably would have just said anything and acted really goofy. In fact, after class I sorta attacked one of my friends (totally didnā€™t feel her upset vibe at all. I was way too high up in la la land XD) **Effects to others** Not any that I really know of. Some people were kinda staring at me in my research class when I was fanning myself, but Idk if that was the pheromones or not. **Duration of effects.** 12:30pm - ummā€¦3:05/later? (Itā€™s still kinda working on me) **Effects from mixing with other products.** none (I ended up not wearing other pheros for a few days so that I could properly assess these blind bottles) **Range** idk **Time exposure**. probably 10 mins Note: Iā€™m probably gonna try the bottles in this order 10, 7, 6, 4 So I guess tomorrow Iā€™ll try 7ā€¦or maybe tonight since Iā€™ll probably be taking a shower soon. :3 * * * **Bottle** #10 **Day 2** **Product name,scent and strength** #10, unknown, not sure **Application dosage and locations** 5 sprays (2 hair, wrists, temples, chest) **Enviroment tested in.** car, restaurant **Self effects.** Felt kinda spaced out. I totally lost myself in my phone while my grama and mom were talking and I wasnā€™t able to get into the conversation because I have no idea what they were talking about. I also felt goofy. I tried to scare my grama lol. Also, my gramma gave me and my mom both hugsā€¦she gave me 2 hugs šŸ˜ƒ **Effects to others** Conversation between everyone was happy and flowed easily. We almost forgot we had to pick up my sister. **Duration of effects.** 1:10pm - 3:00pm **Effects from mixing with other products.** none **Range** 1-3 ft **Time exposure**. 5 mins * * * **Bottle** #10 **Day 3** **Product name,scent and strength** #10, unknown, not sure **Application dosage and locations** 4 sprays (hair, neck, temples, chest) **Enviroment tested in.** TGā€™s apt **Self effects.** Felt overly happy and giggly. There was one point when just looking at TGā€™s face made me laugh for a minute straight. **Effects to others** TG was tolerating my laughing and even amused by it. When his bff came in and got settled was when they both started getting pretty giggly. They almost never get giggly and it was funny to see them laugh about things that were hardly funny. **Duration of effects.** 7:30pm - 9:00pm (Didnā€™t last very long, but that could have been because not much became funny after those first hours) **Effects from mixing with other products.** none **Range** 1-3 ft **Time exposure**. 5 mins * * * **Bottle** #10 **Day 4** **Product name,scent and strength** #10, unknown, not sure **Application dosage and locations** 4 sprays (2 neck, wrists, hair) **Enviroment tested in.** Out around town **Self effects.** I felt extremely spacey when I first put this on. At one point I ended up from one end of the store to the other and didnā€™t realize it until I had lost my dates sight. I was talking to myself a lot and pretty much ignoring what my date was saying because my dialogue was just too important to me. Lol, not a good phero for a date if this happens to you XD Fortunately for me I didnā€™t like him like that. We were going out to find something to eat and Applebeeā€™s had no waiters seating people. It wasnā€™t so much that I was annoyed, but I ended up saying out loud (and very loud) ā€œLetā€™s just go to Subway because these people here are soooooo sloooooooooowā€. And then right before I left I yelled out ā€œThis would be a great place to have a restaurant!ā€ I can only imagine the stares I got. Even my date was embarressed even tho he denied it. The rest of the night I was not shy at all and very talkative to all the sales assossiates and food people. **Effects to others** Iā€™m not sure if it was the effects of 10 or if he was just getting annoyed because I was so engulfed in myself, but eventually my date began acting spacey. He seemed a little more aggitated then I was too. I donā€™t think he was getting the same effects, if any, that I was. He did sing a lot in the car tho, which Iā€™ve never heard him do. **Duration of effects.** 9:30pm - 1:00pm **Effects from mixing with other products.** none **Range** 1-3 ft **Time exposure**. 2 mins ---
**Author:** ![bluethorn13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bluethorn13/32/1351_2.png) [@bluethorn13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bluethorn13)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/19 "2009-03-16T22:37:58Z")
yes 23 for next time! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107/20 "2009-03-16T23:25:48Z")
So I was just gonna pick out a random bottle from a bag, but I wanna do this just for fun. Iā€™m taking votes for which bottle I should test first. 7,6,10, and 4 Cast your votes! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107.md?page=2)