Three Blind Mice!

Seconded. Heartily seconded.

Especially in the first few applications, self effects are likely the first thing you see / hear/ feel / taste / smell. Apply in places where you are most likely to get a dose. 15 to 45 minutes after application find a quiet moment to a do a sensory inventory. Visual, auditory, tactile, gustatory, olfactory. A little reality check for sensory shifts. Psychological effects, mood, perspective, etc, are a continuous, organic process. Sensory shifts need a little more specific observation.

Keep on keepin’ on. I’m gonna make you work for your reps.

Uh huh … OoohYahhh

Wish I would have read this sooner x.x But I still got good results regardless. I’ll be sure to try 4 around my TG next time I go see him

**Bottle #7 Day 1

Product name,scent and strength**
Bottle #7, scent unknown, 15 mcg

Application dosage and locations
2 1/2 sprays (hair, neck)

About an hr later

2 sprays (temples, neck)

Enviroment tested in.
TG’s apt

Self effects.
I first sprayed it in the car and when I got out TG was waiting for me. We kinda fussed at each other for a second (he’s always irritable after he gets off the phone with his mom), but right as we were getting to the door something strange happened.

He started joking around and when he turned to look at me he gave me a big genuine smile like this —> :smiley: And for some reason I felt really happy and I genuinely smiled too. It was weird…it was like I had just received a shot of happiness that came outta no where and it lasted for about an hour then started to fade so I applied some more.
I was happy and laughing and smiling so much TG was like “why are you looking at me like that?” “Whats so funny?”
It even got to the point where I was so happy about everything that it pissed him off when I didn’t take things seriously or if I playfully pestered him it would make him mad.

Sad to say the effects wore off after about an hour. They were really good for the first 5 minutes and then they were subtle and decreased as time passed, until I felt the same as I had before I’d sprayed myself.

Effects to others
Ok so he got mad sometimes, but the strange thing is he was able to bounce back and be happy again after a minute. That’s totally out of character for him because usually he gets mad and stays mad. I’m glad I could make his day a little happier.

His friend also seemed a little happier. And him and his friend were laughing and joking around without cares in the world.

Duration of effects.
10:10pm - 1:10 am

Effects from mixing with other products.
none

Range
1 - 5 ft

Time exposure.
1 min

I think I might know what this is, but I’m not sure yet…
I tested #6 today and I’ll be testing it again at my next class. Will report on that soon.


**Bottle #7 Day 2

Product name,scent and strength**
Bottle #7, unknown scent, 15 mcg

Application dosage and locations
3 sprays (2 to neck, wrists, applied some from neck to back of ears, back of neck, and temples)

Enviroment tested in.
Class

Self effects.
This time I got a little bit of an uplifting mood, but I think I might have OD’d on myself because I wasn’t feeling that really happy feeling I had felt before. I wonder if it needs stimulation. I’ll make sure to report on this later when I can apply it around people I can talk to.
Besides that I began to get tired about 30 mins after and when I got back I crashed around 3, woke up around 4 because people were bugging me (I felt so utterly tired that I excused myself from them, close the door and proceeded to sleep again). I ended up sleeping till a little after 7…man was I tired. Not sure if it was not getting as much sleep as I should have the previous night or if it was a combo of not getting enough sleep and #7 making me tired like I thought it did the last time I tested…

Things to consider: I’ll need to try this one when I’m well rested and am around people I can talk to and be myself around. We’ll see if results are any better then.

Effects to others
Class room didn’t seem to different, althought this girl who never answers questions was answering a lot. Our teacher let us out early, of course he is a nice old man. Other then that not really much else.

Duration of effects.
1:30 pm - 7:00 pm (Just because that’s how long I remained drowsy)

Effects from mixing with other products.
none. I thought about mixing some stuff together, but I’ll save that for another day when I’m around more people.

Range
1-10 ft possibly

Time exposure.
1-3 mins I guess


**
Bottle #7 Day 3

**Product name,scent and strength
#7, unknown, 15 mcg
Used with IS/a

Application dosage and locations
#7 2 (wrists, chest) +2 later at 8:00pm (temples, chest)
IS/a 2 (hair, neck)

Enviroment tested in.
Restaurant and different places around town

Self effects.
Felt very sexy and mature. I felt like someone who was very knowledgeable too, but didn’t feel as talkative as I am with IS/b. So I sprayed a little more #7, hoping to get some better effects, but I pretty much just felt the same: sexy, mature, confident, happy.

Effects to others
TM (Target man) was very nice to me and very gentleman like. He also was very talkative and showed off a little.

Duration of effects.
6:30pm - 10:00pm

Effects from mixing with other products.
Nothing really

Range
1-3 ft

Time exposure.
5 mins or less
**

Bottle #7** Day 4

Product name,scent and strength
#7, unknown, 15 mcg
I paired this with 3 other sprays. The reason why I put this as a bottle #7 report is because the effects pertain a lot to #7 and I just wrote a report for #4 so I decided to add the other report here.
Other sprays added…
IS/b
#4
#6

Application dosage and locations
#7 2 (neck, wrists)
#4 1 (neck)
#6 2 (wrist, chest)
IS/b 2 (neck, hair)

Enviroment tested in.
TG’s apt

Self effects.
I sprayed on #4 before I left for TG’s place and immediately felt sweet and loving. I got in my car and added some IS/b while I was driving since it tends to be too strong if I put it on right before I go in. So here I am, driving along, stuck in my car with these pheromones. I felt great :slight_smile: And I think putting them on in the car helps to let them settle and affect me personally because I definitely felt cute and loved by all. I was even sitting their thinking “If I got pulled over right now the cop wouldn’t give me a ticket because I’m just too cute and loveable.” Of course now I laugh at that statement, but that’s really how I felt. I felt cute for a long time…like well into the night. And I was also feeling very loveable, loving, kittenish, and a little mischievious.
I felt a nice tingle from the #6 whenever I first put it on when I got there and it made me in such a good mood. Then I sprayed some #7 and everything seemed to intensify a little, but it wasn’t until I got inside that I saw how much my sprays were intensified.

Effects to others
When I first got there TG’s friend opened the door and cracked a joke at me. I guess the pheros were already working their charm whenever I got inside because when I turned to leave, because TG and his bff were having a conversation, TG’s bff grabbed me and told me I could listen in, and held me close to him. Normally I’d feel awkward about it, but I was in a cuddly mood, and had he held onto me for a little longer I probably would have just because I could lol. But he kinda nudged me to the couch and TG caught me. I was surprised at how gentle he was and how sweet he was being by pulling me into him and holding me. It was almost a possessive action, like he was saying “your mine, not his”. I couldn’t help, but smile and laugh at a lot of things TG did because it all sank up with what I thought the effects would be.
Throught the entire night he was extremely sweet. And it was funny because there has never been that drastic of a change in him from pheromones. Infact, I think the last time I saw him be that sweet was when we had dated a long time ago. This was like puppy love sweet. He would rub my knee or my hand. Hold my hand, kiss my cheek, kiss me, hug me. And even when I tried to argue, instead of arguing back or getting annoyed and upset at me he would hold me and tell me sweetly that I didn’t need to argue. It was so bizzar.
He kept kissing me a lot and I felt a little embarressed because his bff was there, but I couldn’t deny him. He kept telling me he just wanted to kiss me and how he didn’t know why, but he wanted to kiss me all night and also that he missed me a lot.
These effects extended so far I think they were even present today when I was getting help from a guy for my homework and I kept feeling that weird feeling like I wanted kiss him, but I knew I really didn’t. Then he gave me a really sincere, sweet smile like a bf would give to his gf he loved and…idk, it was just weird…
I got texts from TG today saying that he was glad I came over and wants me to come over again. I’m really loving whatever is in #4 and #7. And this combo was amazing!

Duration of effects.
10:48 pm - 1:00 pm WHOA! O.O

Effects from mixing with other products.
I believe every other spray except #7 provided the effects and then #7 help to make them more potent and last a lot longer then they usually do. I mean seriously? 14 hours? That’s freaking ridiculous! lol

Range
5 ft

Time exposure.
1-5 mins

EDIT: Just for future reference. I had PMS during this report so that could have aided to some effects…not really sure, but you never know.

I was bored and decided to take out two bottles and photograph them so all of you could see the pretty labels :smiley:

Are these products dangerous and harmful?

I am fairly new with these, so if there is something I should know, please tell me :frowning:

I had already established that Bottle #2 had light, calming, positive effects, and I also read a post somewhere on here about a mother who sometimes used pheromones around her children, with no ill effects.

Please enlighten me, this is a serious consideration. I would never intentionally place any child, or any person for that matter, in a situation that might hurt them.

i actually talked to sillykitty about hoping the VETS here would have said something.

its not that the pheromones are harmful.

its that the right pheromone in the wrong dose could have an unwanted affect, and when children are very young,
they cant tell you how or why their head hurts, they feel bad,ect.

one pheromone in particular (but the VETS here already know this!)
made my 4 yr old horribly depressed.
to the point he cried nonstop for freaking days.
i cant repeat here what he actually said to me.

my other son?
it didnt bother him a bit.

btw,
i appologised to sillykitty.

my dissapointment wasnt with her,
it was with the lack of attention from those that are “in the know”.

when i started here,
i thought this stuff is fashioned after very natural things.
shoot, i felt so good i wanted to BATHE in the stuff !
:slight_smile:
after some experience with “too much of a good thing”
i realized
some things are NOT good in large amounts, especially around sensitive others.

when we experiment, its fun, its awesome.
when we experiment ON others,
sensitivity HAS to be taken into consideration.

thats it.
sorry for the interruption guys.
i still think this is the coolest experiment ever.
:wink:

I believe we are in agreement on this one. My other complaints have been addressed in the private manner that SK chose for you and myself, Lor.

Agreed. With only a few caveats.

Very interesting…

Yeah my last testing was very weird and it makes me wonder if all pheros are safe. I’ll be posting my results shortly so you guys can assess them and tell me what you think

**Bottle #6 Day 1

Product name,scent and strength**
Bottle #6, unknown scent, 15 mcg per spray

Application dosage and locations
10:50 am
3 sprays (hair, neck, wrists)

12:55 pm
2 (neck, wrists)

Enviroment tested in.
Restaurant, Classes

Self effects.
The first time I tried it I was in a restaurant with one of my girl friends. I saw this guy I know and immediately started feeling this annoyance because he usually makes fun of this girl I’m with behind her back because shes…well big. He comes up to us and by this time I am really annoyed. He says some dumb comment like he always does and for some reason (I never do this) I come at him, ok not physically, but I’m just like “your annoying, get outta here” in a really disgusted and annoyed tone and me and my friend leave.

Throughout the whole time I’m in class I feel kinda funny. My fingers are tingling and my head/ brain is feeling fuzzy/buzzy? I didn’t really get a good handle on the feeling till my next class when I sprayed 2 more sprays on, but I did notice that before my other class while I was at lunch I was in my own little world and didn’t really care about anything, but myself. My bff started laughing because I was humming and talking to myself. I wasn’t even aware of this :stuck_out_tongue:

Anywho, I sprayed on 2 more sprays before math class and woo! I got to class and I spoke in a loud voice from across the room (never done that before) and told one of my guy friends to get out of my seat. I was almost as annoyed as I was with the other guy at the restaurant and I told him to “GET OUT NOW!” with an annoyed look. Not pissed off…just annoyed. I had most everyones attention at this point :roll_eyes:
I finally get my chair back after asking forever and saying please like 3 times and then he has the gull to throw his backpack in my chair as I’m sitting down. So what do I do? I grab his backpack and proceed to throw it out an open window…whats the term you use for chucking something out a window? Oh yes…I nearly defenestrated his back pack out a window. He yelled “NO!” and the whole class laughed. I just smiled and handed back his bag then sat down.

For most of the class period I was laughing at some of the dumbest things and sometimes even randomly and both of my guy friends kept poking me in the side just to hear me yelp. I was so unfocused it wasn’t even funny. He was trying to explain stuff and I would just be talking or laughing or staring out the window.

At that point I sat there and tried to figure out what the feeling I was feeling really felt like so I could put it into words. I explained it to one of the guys as like having an orgasm in your brain and a little at the top of my spine. It made it so much easier to laugh. I just wanted to laugh. And then there was the strange tinglies in my finger and I guess I could say I felt kinda fuzzy in my head…And I could not focus and was in my own little world, and I was blurting out random nonsense and silly sounds. And I almost defenestrated a guys bag :smiley: Fun Times!

Effects to others
My guy friend who sits behind me in math class was acting a little like me (goofy and saying random nonsense) but I think that might have been because he felt comfortable doing it since I was doing it too xD

Other then that, nothing else.

Duration of effects.
10:50 am - Now? I’m still kinda feeling effects. The aren’t anywhere near what they were 30 mins ago tho.

Effects from mixing with other products.
none

Range
3 ft if that

Time exposure.
2 mins

Good Times Good Times! Lol
So the last one is bottle #4, and then I think I might try Marks idea and combine the two he told me to combine.

Any thoughts on this? Felt so weird using this…it was almost like a drug :open_mouth:


Bottle #6 Day 2

Product name,scent and strength
Bottle # 6, smells like baby wipes, 15 mcg

Application dosage and locations
3 sprays (hair, wrists, neck)

  • 2 sprays later (neck, wrists)

Enviroment tested in.
TG’s apt

Self effects.
At first I didn’t really feel much, then as the night went on and I finally added the final fifth spray I started to feel goofy and it was much easier to laugh at things and I laughed for no reason. TG looked at me like I was crazy and told me something was obviously wrong with me. Whatever :eyeroll:
I enjoyed the tingliness going down my back, but it was nothing compared to the intensity I’d had the other day.
I also got defensive like I had been the first day I used #6. I got in arguments with TG I normally don’t get into. I didn’t feel afraid to stand up for myself, but I was also kicking myself because I knew I shouldn’t be behaving this way.
Is this some kinda argumentative pheromone or something? Whatever it is I’m taking a break from it for a while so I can hopefully get that brain tingling feeling again.
Also, I felt like I just wanted to cuddle with TG and not really do anything else :confused:

Effects to others
TG was also kinda argumentative, but not as bad as I was, and I’m pretty sure other things in his system were effecting him more then anything. That and he naturally is just argumentative…but what’dya gonna do :stuck_out_tongue:

Duration of effects.
12:35 - 3:00

Effects from mixing with other products.
I added one spray of #4, but I didn’t see any different effects then I had the 1st day and he didn’t cuddle with me like he did in my #4 report.

Range
1-3 ft

Time exposure.
5 mins


Bottle #6 Day 3

Product name,scent and strength
Bottle # 6, smells like baby wipes, but very minimally because I shake it well now, 15 mcg

Application dosage and locations
#6 2 sprays (neck)
IS/b 2 sprays (hair, neck)
#7 1 spray (neck)

Enviroment tested in.
TG’s apt

Self effects.
I felt argumentative again. Idk if it’s just me, but I always feel I need to argue and that emotions don’t matter. I didn’t really feel sad, but instead got pissed when something bad happened and I made sure TG knew it. I tried not to be so argumentative, and found the strength to regulate myself, but it was kinda hard.
I think adding IS/b made me act mousey and at one point I was a little shy around TG o.O? I even told him I was feeling shy and I think what it was was this sense of “I like you, but Idk if you like me” I couldn’t stop smiling and loving that lovey dovey feeling I got when I looked at him.
I got that tingling in my spine again, but it wasn’t as extreme has it had been the first time when I sprayed 5 sprays. I still felt it tho, and it felt good :slight_smile:

Effects to others
TG and his bff seem to react well to this phero. I guess it’s just me that ends up getting the bad self effects >.< TG kept kissing me and winked at me and looking over at me. He was being very sweet, loving, and touchy feeling. His bff talked to my more then he normally does and there was even one point where he pulled my chair closer to him.
I think I enjoy the kissing and cuddling this phero brings out in TG the most. It’s so satisfying to see these results.

Duration of effects.
11:20 pm - 4:15 am

Effects from mixing with other products.
none

Range
1-3 ft

Time exposure.
5 mins

Since there is no dosage or strength listed it is likely an MX, so it should work by itself. It may just take a few days of regular use in different environments to show effects. Also 8.5 sprays seems like a lot for an MX. Do the old 2 sprays for 2 days, 3 sprays for 2 days, skip a day…ect. ect.

If you are still getting nothing after 4 or 5 days with it juice it up with one of you favs that you have a good feel for and see what’s different.

That’s an interesting concept. I may I have to try that

That’s a good idea! Maybe I will try it that way. I was just being impatient, I think. Also, I am the same age as you, so because of that I tend to give myself a little more (just to be on the safe side)

I don’t believe the question of whether mones are safe or not is really the correct way to look at this. I believe all pheromones are safe as they are naturally produced by the body anyway.

It’s when we get into putatives and unknowns, then there could be a risk, but dangerous to adults? It’s all relative on what could be construed as danger. Using IFM in the pressence of a depressed person than yes it could be as bad as telling him off if he cuts you in line.

Now using anything, including soap, detergent, cleaning suplies, scented oils, sugar could be a hazard to children so caution should always be taken. I agree that unknowns should be used away from little ones as no one can be sure of their reactions. In the same stance caustion has to be taken with anything around young children. My neice was alergic to red food dye. Who would have thought it could make her deathly ill, after all it didn’t effect her little brother.

We should take precautionary steps with mones and they should be the same steps we take with everything.

Wait a second…so your saying putatives aren’t pheromones? What are they then? That might have been what I tested last because that didn’t feel like anything natural to me :confused:

Putatives by there very definition are “unknowns.”

Please understand though that does not mean they are just some random chemical. Every putative undergoes a STRICT evaluation and must meet all the criteria of a mone before its released. What we are saying is they meet all requirements of pheromone status, but their effects are unknown. They have all the chemical components of a mone, but the results of how they work are they key elements still needing testing.

Ok I see. I just don’t wanna take something that will harm me in the long run if I keep using it

Great report, Happykitsune!! Hmm, your Bottle #6 has mcg’s on it, so it must not be an MX, as Renny astutely pointed out.

And I know what you mean about natural maybe being not necessarily so natural. For example, antibiotics are naturally occurring in our bodies, yet certain antibiotics that we take into our bodies (in the form of pills) can be dangerous in the wrong chemistry or in the wrong dosage.

Hmm, that is something to think about…never really thought about it that way. I’m still feeling a weird feeling in my hand though and it’s kinda starting to freak me out