# Three Days, Three Tests, what would you like to see?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 23, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317 "2009-04-23T18:06:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/1 "2009-04-23T18:06:30Z")

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Ok, so it’s going to be a busy weekend. Three good testing opportunities fell into my lap. I’ve got a couple of different options tonight, Friday, and Saturday. So I’m looking for suggestions. I kinda feel like going a bit -NONE crazy.

I could probably double up on venues but that requires additional running around town and craziness.

Where?  
TH - Rock show / party / BAR  
FRI - Rock show / party / BAR  
SAT - Rock show / party / BAR

What?  
Instant jerk + MX292  
TUTH + MX292  
MX305 or MX306 + MX292  
MX305 (or MX311) Solo  
MX306 (or MX312) Solo  
MX307 Solo  
Other (please specify and give a good reason)

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/2 "2009-04-23T18:20:25Z")

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I say you carry the RP to-go bottles you listed in a little Altoids or cigarette box so you can change canvases on the fly (along with taking some alcohol wipes or Witch Hazel wipes if you have some) just so you can be able to try out more than one test, but I’d be interested in seeing if you finally get something good from the MX307 mixed with MX292 (since you kind of already know what MX307 does alone.) That’d be interesting!

Or you can be the first one to hopefully review MX311, or MX312 and use it to compare these two to MX305, and MX306 (another good test.) And then just add MX292, to either one after you feel you have compiled enough data to review them alone later on when you get home? Ah, so many combinations of mixes. In the end it’s all up to you marty, so either way I can’t wait for your review.

> [@marty](#):
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> Ok, so it’s going to be a busy weekend. Three good testing opportunities fell into my lap. I’ve got a couple of different options tonight, Friday, and Saturday. So I’m looking for suggestions. I kinda feel like going a bit -NONE crazy.
> 
> I could probably double up on venues but that requires additional running around town and craziness.
> 
> Where?  
> TH - Rock show / party / BAR  
> FRI - Rock show / party / BAR  
> SAT - Rock show / party / BAR
> 
> What?  
> Instant jerk + MX292  
> TUTH + MX292  
> MX305 or MX306 + MX292  
> MX305 (or MX311) Solo  
> MX306 (or MX312) Solo  
> MX307 Solo  
> Other (please specify and give a good reason)

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/3 "2009-04-23T18:20:57Z")

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I like option 1 for the rock show. Then maybe take TUTH with you to add to a spray of 292 later at the party. I would think about taking a social with too.

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/4 "2009-04-23T18:26:59Z")

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YES, _please_ don’t forget a social (just in case!) I’d choose Spaceland to-go because of its high dose of Alpha Androstenol, but a simple to-go of IO would be just as good (preferably x2.)

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/5 "2009-04-23T19:34:26Z")

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mx308, mx309, mx310… just because I haven’t seen you test those yet.

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**Author:** ![mediumpimpin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@mediumpimpin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mediumpimpin)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/6 "2009-04-23T19:46:22Z")

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i agree with miko and jessejester, id like to see jerk with mx292. but possibly for safety purposes i second miko on some sort of social lol

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/7 "2009-04-24T01:41:05Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> mx308, mx309, mx310… just because I haven’t seen you test those yet.

In due time good sir. I rather like to test those dangerous mixes in controlled environments before I run them against the world. I will be moving on to MX308 next week. I still need to give MX307 a good test in the “Wild” as I haven’t tested it in one of these sorts of environments. Perhaps that’s where it’ll finally shine???

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/8 "2009-04-24T07:31:34Z")

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Day 1 doubled up on a show and a bar, in what order is our guess. MX305. one spray.

Starts out greattttttttttt(well, more like fairly good), but can’t hang for the long run. Digresses into being un-approachable at the end. I like my nights long, so this one totaled 5 or 6 hours, by the end, I am being totally and completely avoided. Just can’t. hang. NOT GOOD CANT USE. if you cant hang with me for the long run I cant use you. MX305 is not something I would purchase for use at bars, or everyday.

This is one spray.  
I am a younger guy, mid 20’s. not for me. good but not great. i need something that keeps the good good good. this is good, ok, what? oh geez.

MX305 is officially out of commission for good time fun time drunk time.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/9 "2009-04-24T07:42:46Z")

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> [@marty](#):
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> Day 1 doubled up on a show and a bar, in what order is our guess. MX305. one spray.
> 
> Starts out greattttttttttt(well, more like fairly good), but can’t hang for the long run. Digresses into being un-approachable at the end. I like my nights long, so this one totaled 5 or 6 hours, by the end, I am being totally and completely avoided. Just can’t. hang. NOT GOOD CANT USE. if you cant hang with me for the long run I cant use you. MX305 is not something I would purchase for use at bars, or everyday.
> 
> This is one spray.  
> I am a younger guy, mid 20’s. not for me. good but not great. i need something that keeps the good good good. this is good, ok, what? oh geez.
> 
> MX305 is officially out of commission for good time fun time drunk time.

I know exactly what you mean. This is what I experienced with MX292, as well. First few hours are great, at least with select populations. After 4 or 5 hours, I get more typical -none effects, like avoidance/aversion.

Problem is, lots of pheromone disperse faster than androstenone. Androstenone will stick around much longer.

I think, ideally, we’d take the accessory [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in these that help make the androstenone appealing and provide a “refresher” for them that you can apply with the androstenone starts scarin’ people. Turn that scary back into yummy.

I also have some experiments with different fixatives coming up that may extend the usable life of the accessories. Ideally, we could get the more social and “acceptance” type pheromones to disperse as slowly as the -none itself. The problem is, I don’t want the fixatives to equally slow down the -none dispersion. If that happens, we loop around to the same problem – just in slow time.

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/10 "2009-04-24T07:57:25Z")

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I would absolutely Love that.

MX292 seems to be a bit more balanced in that, either it stays a bit more well behaved longer, or it starts further on the “social” side, thus allowing the gradual progression to “sexual” to be less of a shocker.

I don’t find -anone to be a “wearing out” [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), so I tend to keep going when I should otherwise call it quits, unless something else tires me. And apparently, whatever is in MX305 isn’t enough to tire me out, but the “buffers” drop out quick enough that it gets to “ghosty.”

MX306 seemed to be “saner” in that the RAW none didn’t come out as blatantly. Longer usable time period. BUT it was a bit colder weather then so maybe I should re-run it…

MX305 starts well. But even then it is a bit too “edgey” for my normal tastes. even when some beer is involved. I just don’t dig it.

MX305 may be more “obvious” than MX306, but I think that’s why I don’t like it. It’s a short term mother f\*, or more well suited to guys a bit older.

I can’t STAND unbuffered none, I guess, so whatever “smoothing” components of MX306 make that one work so much “smoother”, really vibe really well with what I want out of a “high” none mix. And the few times I used it, I didn’t get ghosted out at all over almost the same period of time.

MX305 seems to START at it’s “best” point and roll off from there. Where as MX306 seems to start maybe a bit too buffered, but then it hits the “POINT” enough later on that everyone is “BUILT” up, and then you still have enough time to capitalize, even if you are a slow man Like I Am.

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/11 "2009-04-24T08:23:50Z")

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Sorry to spam. BUT I’ve got a good idea for tomorrow.

AS you know, MX292 is a favorite of mine. SO I think I need to involve that one after tonight’s uh, missssssssyness. BUTTTTT Let’s be sneaky about it. I’ve got a special concoction that contains half and half of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) + p86 @12.5 mcg. So that should be .5 of instant jerk, and 6.25 extra p86.

Basically should give the impression that I made out alright, subtlety boost the none from my usual MX292 mix, and hopefully not throw of the usual P86 concentration too much.

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/12 "2009-04-24T11:44:16Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> .  
> I think, ideally, we’d take the accessory pheromones in these that help make the androstenone appealing and provide a “refresher” for them that you can apply with the androstenone starts scarin’ people. Turn that scary back into yummy.
> 
> I also have some experiments with different fixatives coming up that may extend the usable life of the accessories. Ideally, we could get the more social and “acceptance” type pheromones to disperse as slowly as the -none itself. The problem is, I don’t want the fixatives to equally slow down the -none dispersion. If that happens, we loop around to the same problem – just in slow time.

This sound interesting.

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/13 "2009-04-24T15:33:28Z")

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I think I got about 2.5 or 3 “good” hours out of it, then it fell off pretty sharply.

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/14 "2009-04-25T07:28:10Z")

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Today ran a half spray of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), 6.25mcg of P86, and 3 sprays of MX292 (batch 1).

Kind of a flop, I was too tired to get into the night. I could talk to people, but eventually I’d notice that people drifted to the other side of the room. I’d re situate myself, or get some fresh air, or get another drink, and slowly after about 5-10 minutes, my side would be rather empty. Perhaps I’m just imagining, but that’s what it seemed like.  
I didn’t feel “edgey” frustrated or angry from the -none. I was just too tired from drinking too much the previous night.  
Might have also had a bit none left over from yesterday? I need to get another bottle of hydrogen peroxide tomorrow.

Didn’t notice any big hits, but like I said. Exhaustion.

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/15 "2009-04-26T08:27:34Z")

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Night 3 = MX312. I could see this being the equivalent of MX306. SUre why not.

1x spray MX312, 1x spray of GIT. Started out a bit of a wallflower (me personality), got drunk, obnoxious, had tons of fun.

There were some interesting moments. A slight bit of aggression in the air, but mostly friendly.

When the weather gets warm, this stuff seems to become a bit more dangerous.

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/16 "2009-04-26T15:34:03Z")

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The effects on others were quite interesting to say the least. Like there was a lot of aggression in the air, but most of it was light hearted, and none of it was directed at me.

I can’t say if that was the pheros or what, but I found it highly entertaining. That was the other thing, I was just highly entertained and not giving a shit about anything.

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-days-three-tests-what-would-you-like-to-see/28317/17 "2009-04-28T02:24:01Z")

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Well, here’s a 5th post in a row by me in my own thread, but one thing I wanted to mention was that the MX312 that I wore on the last night didn’t seem to really tire me out. At least not like MX292 does. I was pretty caffeinated when I started the night, but I wasn’t drinking caffeine at the party, but it wasn’t until the party was pretty dead that I left (about 5 or more hours later).

I stayed out very late
