# Thumb rules **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 22, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722 "2007-01-22T23:32:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/61 "2007-01-29T09:38:22Z")
haha yea i was just kidding but yea 😛 damn u hehe. Ah yes the chocolate to 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 11:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/62 "2007-01-29T11:25:36Z")
Good that it is starting to progress for you. His interest is now showing. I’ll wait to know who’d be the first to give the other that first peck on the lips. ---
**Author:** ![\_side](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/8edcca/32.png) [@\_side](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/_side)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/63 "2007-01-29T22:09:30Z")
I wish you good luck Muse, but you should know - that’s the point of no return. ( Wanna lose friend? Try to flirt with him…) ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/64 "2007-01-29T23:12:44Z")
> [@saraunne](#): > > Never underestimate the power of romance for women. > > Because just reading Muse’s posts makes me glow. Ah, romance!! > > And I’m not talking flowers, and whispering “sweet nothings” in your ear, and sappy poetry. I think it has its time and place (for some people) but we have been so desensitized to that kind of thing that anything out of the ordinary is HOT. > > And the silent kiss, with no words or explanation is PURE romance. You’re taking out the sap, you’re taking out the sound, stripping everything down to simple contact, a connection and communication that doesn’t need anything more. > > And you’re putting in mystery. And with the mystery comes tension, and tension can be even more delicious than anything else. > > This is why we do it… > > … and for the chocolate, of course.😉 i have a lot to learn… ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/65 "2007-01-30T01:54:36Z")
you and i malacide are not much different lol 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/66 "2007-01-30T02:07:21Z")
we need to study women… and have chocolate to tease them with and see if they give up secrets for them ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/67 "2007-01-30T02:15:59Z")
Oh why is it one of my fave targets doesn’t like chocolate… \ \ Anyone know of something similar to the Lindt in strawberry? Melts in your mouth, not in your hand… (No - not THAT! Candy!) . ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/68 "2007-01-30T02:30:25Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > Oh why is it one of my fave targets doesn’t like chocolate… > > \ > > \ > > Anyone know of something similar to the Lindt in strawberry? > > Melts in your mouth, not in your hand… > > (No - not THAT! Candy!) > > . well i tend to melt either way so not me ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/69 "2007-01-30T02:47:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh why is it one of my fave targets doesn’t like chocolate… > > \ > > \ > > Anyone know of something similar to the Lindt in strawberry? > > Melts in your mouth, not in your hand… > > (No - not THAT! Candy!) Does she do white chocolate? Those truffle bars come in white (but are missing the cacao parts, so they’re not as dark chocolate psychoactive). ---
**Author:** ![Muse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muse/32/2388_2.png) [@Muse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muse)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/70 "2007-01-30T03:35:29Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > If you’re too nervous to do the Ail trick, bring the Lindt game. It’s not as scary as The First Kiss, but its a GREAT way to melt the ice and make the segue to The First Kiss _that_ much easier… > > Spontaneously, go, “OMG I have something for you to try, CLOSE YOUR EYES!” > > Do that “The next time that last part happens Muse, while holding his gaze, place your index finger softly on his lips,” thing, only with this smoldering melting chocolate kiss pushing into his mouth. OH, also dose your fingers and wrists with Chocolatini or Cookie Isexi… (And Lucky you - you’re getting JUST the serum for this trick! A cookie-scented ISexi A with 5x cops!!!) > > Then he’ll open his eyes all glowy and amazed at that amaaaazing melting chocolate seduction in his mouth, positively mindmessed at your swirling plumes of Instant Sexiness, and in a vulerable, pliable daze. What do you wanna do now, Muse? A quick peck, then move onto the “remove your finger, and replace it RIGHT AWAY with your lips. Then give him a GHOST of a kiss - no more, and get out of the car - WITHOUT saying a solitary word, or looking back even once, at him.” ? > > God, it is BRILLIANT. > > Go Team Muse! _printing the hipster t-shirt right now on Cafe Press_ I actually have to start carrying chocolate in my purse along with pheremones? 😮 So yesterday, I had imagined pulling him onto my balcony and staring into his eyes and him kissing me 🙄 . Oh yes, as a “thank you” for helping him move me, I’m gonna invite him over to my place for dinner. It’s only right because he’s cooked for me three times already! I’ll save the Lindt for dessert (although I do not think I could do the last part…however, I’ve been surprising myself lately. I REALLY want him to take the lead…🙄 but a little maneuvering can’t hurt 🆒 . ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/71 "2007-01-30T03:51:52Z")
Muse … this guy has cooked for you THREE TIMES?? Make your move already, girl. I think this is going to be an equal-opportunity relationship. 😉 If you can handle that, it could be great! and yes, I’d say you owe him dessert. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/72 "2007-01-30T14:41:38Z")
I did the silent kiss thing for 3 seconds on my last date… I was wearing turn up the heat even on my lips though, and .. well everything went well that night. But the next days she decided she wanted to be “friends only” after givng me some extreme emotional outbursts from her side and she hinted that I might want her just for sex (I was interested in her romantically)… really weird as she kissed me back on that night… Anyway these are things that can happen I think.. After hearing/seeing her outbursts I wouldn’t want to date her anyway. ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/73 "2007-01-30T17:26:48Z")
hmmm i need to learn from u guys about not going for the crazy chick… OMG DONT TELL HER I SAID THAT!!!.. btw has anyone ever told u in your picture Phoenix that u kinda look like Ryan Seacrest… just thought i’d point that out… ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/74 "2007-01-30T17:39:39Z")
Malacide…that’s a photo of Robbie Williams! Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/75 "2007-01-30T17:41:20Z")
who the hell is Robbie Williams? i guess it proves my point… Robbie Williams looks like Ryan Seacrest… ITS A TRAP RUN! ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/76 "2007-01-30T17:45:24Z")
**Robbie Williams (born Robert Peter Williams on [February 13](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_13), [1974](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974)) is an [English](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England) singer. His career started as a member of the pop band [Take That](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_That) in 1990, which he left in 1995 to begin his solo career. Since then, Robbie Williams has sold more albums in the UK than any other British solo artist in history. His album sales stand at nearly 50 million worldwide and has sold approximately 15 million singles around the world. This brings his total sales to nearly 65 million records. In the UK alone he has sold nearly 5.5 million singles and about three times that many albums. He appears in the list of the all-time Top 100 biggest selling albums in the UK six times, more than any other person or group. He has had eight number 1 albums and six number 1 singles in the UK, and has been the recipient of many awards including more [Brit Awards](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_Awards) than any other artist. It is also estimated that he is currently the best-selling, non-latino artist in [Latin America](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America).[1] ([Robbie Williams - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Williams#_note-0))** **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=4)] _[Life Thru A Lens](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Thru_A_Lens)_ (1997)** In autumn 1997 Williams released his first solo album. His career had actually started in the summer of the previous year covering George Michael’s “[Freedom](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom)” (reached #2, 26 places higher than the George Michael original but held off the top spot by the [Spice Girls](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_Girls)’ “Wannabe”), though this single was not included on the album. Singles that were taken from the album were “[Old Before I Die](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Before_I_Die)” (reached #2, held off the top spot by [R Kelly](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_Kelly)’s “I Believe I Can Fly”), “[Lazy Days](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazy_Days)” (reached #8), “[South Of The Border](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Of_The_Border)” (reached #14), “[Angels](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angels_%28song%29)” (reached #4) and “[Let Me Entertain You](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Me_Entertain_You)” (reached #3). Much was riding on this album, being widely and inevitably viewed as the first real test of Williams’ ability to make it as a solo artist. When first released the initial public response, despite favourable reviews, was somewhat underwhelming, as it was gone from the chart after barely a month having peaked at #11, indicating that Williams was maybe not destined for a successful solo career after all. It was the release of the single “Angels” that turned things around. The single itself, while it did not make the Top 3, clocked up five separate chart runs totalling 27 weeks, and is Williams’ best selling single with 868,000 copies shifted. The album returned to the chart to give Williams the first of his eight number one albums. It went on to rack up 123 weeks on the chart, more than any of his other releases, and now ranks at #58 in the all-time list of biggest selling albums in the UK, with sales of 2,075,000. \*_[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=5)] ([I've Been Expecting You - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27ve_Been_Expecting_You)) (1998)_ His second album was introduced by the single “[Millennium](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_%28single%29)”, which was his first solo number 1 hit single. Other singles released were “[No Regrets](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Regrets)” (reached #4), “[Strong](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_%28single%29)” (reached #4), “[She’s The One](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She%27s_The_One)” (his second number 1) which had FIFA 2000 soundtrack “[It’s Only Us](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Only_Us)” as a B-side, and “[Win Some Lose Some](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Win_Some_Lose_Some)” (reached #7) exclusive to [New Zealand](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand). This album, which spent 98 weeks on the chart, is Williams’ biggest seller in the UK, at #30 in the all-time list, with sales of 2,556,000. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=6)] _[The Ego Has Landed](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ego_Has_Landed)_ (1999)** This North American exclusive album was a compilation of the best songs from “[Life Thru A Lens](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Thru_A_Lens)” and “\*([I've Been Expecting You - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27ve_Been_Expecting_You))”, which had a poor showing in the album charts, peaking at #63. The album however, sold over 596,000 copies and was praised by _Entertainment Weekly_ as the Album Of The Year in 1999. It went platinum in Canada with sales over 100,000. In total the album has sold almost a million worldwide. The two singles released from this album, “[Millennium](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_%28single%29)” and “[Angels](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angels)”, reached #72 and #41 respectively. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=7)] _[Sing When You’re Winning](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_When_You%27re_Winning)_ (2000)** The fourth album was introduced by the single _[Rock DJ](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_DJ_%28song%29)_, his third number 1 single in the UK. Other singles from this album were “[Kids](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids)”, a duet with [Kylie Minogue](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylie_Minogue) (reached #2, held off the top spot by [U2](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U2)’s “Beautiful Day”), “[Supreme](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme)” (reached #4), “[Let Love Be Your Energy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Love_Be_Your_Energy)” (reached #10), and “[Eternity / The Road To Mandalay](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternity/The_Road_to_Mandalay)” (his fourth number 1). This album is at #51 in the all-time UK sales list, with 2,182,000 copies sold. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=8)] _[Swing When You’re Winning](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_When_You%27re_Winning)_ (2001)** _Swing When You’re Winning_ was an album of pop-standard song covers released in 2001. The album featured his fifth UK number 1 single “[Somethin’ Stupid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somethin%27_Stupid)”, a duet with [Nicole Kidman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Kidman). Other singles from the album were “[Mr. Bojangles / I Will Talk and Hollywood Will Listen](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Bojangles/I_Will_Talk_And_Hollywood_Will_Listen)”, (reached #68) exclusive to Eastern Europe. Additional featured songs include versions of “Beyond The Sea” which was featured in the 2003 animated motion picture [Finding Nemo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finding_Nemo), and “Have You Met Miss Jones”, which was included in the soundtrack of the 2001 film _[Bridget Jones’s Diary](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_Jones%27s_Diary)_. This album ranks at #49 in the all-time UK sales list, having sold 2,205,000. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=9)] _[Escapology](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escapology_%28album%29)_ (2002)** In 2002 Williams released his sixth solo effort, and his last with producer and co-songwriter Guy Chambers, _Escapology_. Critics were negative about the album, calling it mediocre and weak. However, fans and some critics had the opinion that _Escapology_ was a masterpiece_citation needed_ ([Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources))]. Singles taken from the album were “[Feel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feel_%28Robbie_Williams_song%29)” (reached #4), “[Come Undone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Undone_%28Robbie_Williams_song%29)” (reached #4), “[Something Beautiful](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Beautiful)” (reached #3) and “[Sexed Up](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexed_Up)” (reached #10). The album was refactored for the U.S. market upon its release there in 2003, where it peaked at #43. In the UK this album is at #60 in the all-time sales list, with 2,037,000 copies sold. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=10)] _[Live At Knebworth](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_At_Knebworth)_ (2003)** In September 2003 Robbie Williams released a compilation of the best bits of his three consecutive sold out gigs at Knebworth Park, featuring such songs as “Let Me Entertain You”, “Mr. Bojangles”, “Feel”, “Come Undone”, “She’s The One” and “Angels”. This is the only Robbie Williams UK-released album not to reach #1 in that country, peaking at #2 behind [Dido](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido_%28singer%29)’s “Life For Rent.” **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=11)] _[Greatest Hits](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Hits_%28Robbie_Williams_album%29)_ (2004)** In 2004 Williams released a compilation of his best singles. It was one of the fastest selling albums upon release in the UK[4] ([Robbie Williams - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Williams#_note-3)), where it debuted at the number one spot. Two new songs included on the album, “[Radio](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_%28song%29)” (his sixth number 1) and “[Misunderstood](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misunderstood_%28song%29)” (reached #8), were both released as singles and were his first production without Guy Chambers. This album is at #61 in the all-time UK sales list, with 1,999,000 copies shifted. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=12)] _[Intensive Care](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_Care_%28album%29)_ (2005)** Williams’ ninth album, _Intensive Care_, was a number one in the British charts, before being overtaken by the [Westlife](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westlife) album _[Face to Face](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_to_Face_%28Westlife_album%29)_. EMI confirmed that the album has passed 6.7 million worldwide and sales are now approching 7 million, making it his best selling studio album of his career. The album was the third best selling album of 2005 in the UK despite only being released late October. The first single from the album was “Tripping” and peaked at #2 in the UK charts, held off the top spot by the [Sugababes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugababes)’ “Push the Button.” The second single to be released was “Make Me Pure”, released as a promotional single only in New Zealand and Australia, although it still reached #15 in [The Netherlands](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Netherlands) and #27 in [Mexico](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico). A third single, “Advertising Space”, an Elvis Presley tribute, entered the UK chart at #8. “Sin Sin Sin” was the fourth single from Intensive Care, but was his first single to miss the top 20 of the UK Singles Charts, only reaching #22. “A Place To Crash” was originally planned to be one half of a fifth single from the album, issued as a double A-side with the song “Ghosts”. The single was never released, and Williams’ next single was to be the song “Rudebox”, the title track of his forthcoming tenth album. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=13)] _[Rudebox](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudebox_%28album%29)_ (2006)** There were rumours that Williams was about to launch a dance album and ‘Swinging II’ which would fulfil his commitment to the EMI contract. Work on the dance album surfaced in the form of the first single, “[Rudebox](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudebox)”, also known as “Rudebox '74” - a sparse electronic production nostalgic of early 80’s hip-hop. The project had been kept tightly under wraps in order to gauge public opinion, but when the single was first broadcast anonymously on the Pete Tong show, Williams’ signature voice was easy to spot in the final seconds of the track. Even though neither the album nor the single have been released Stateside, “[Rudebox](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudebox)” has been gaining airplay on [dance music](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_music) stations in the US. Williams released his much anticipated dance/electro album “Rudebox” on October 23rd, [2006](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006). The first single “Rudebox”, which reached #4 in the UK Singles chart, was hailed a flop by the Mirror, yet managed to have the same chart peak as Robbie’s most famous song “Angels”. Essentially, the difference is that “Angels” spent far longer on the singles chart than the “Rudebox” single (which was in and out of the top 40 within a fraction of the time) and therefore achieved far greater sales - highlighting the irrelevance of chart positions (which are merely rankings that are relative only to each individual week) compared to actual overall sales performance. It was also a worldwide hit, reaching #1 in various countries around the world, including Chile, Germany, and Italy, among others_citation needed_ ([Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources))]. It was the second best-selling single in Europe for a number of weeks and was also the fifth best-selling single in the World for a time, according to the United World Chart_citation needed_ ([Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources))]. The second single “[Lovelight](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovelight)”, a cover version of a song by [Lewis Taylor](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lewis_Taylor&action=edit), was released on November 13th, reaching #8. The high-pitched vocals have prompted comparisons to [George Michael](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Michael)_citation needed_ ([Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources))], an artist greatly respected by Williams. Robbie ended [2006](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006) as the 17th most played artist in [Latin America](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America)[5] ([Robbie Williams - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Williams#_note-4)) and the 5th most played international artist. According to the German magazine "Der Spiegel"_citation needed_ ([Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources))], Williams is not going to renew his current contract with [EMI](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMI), claiming he’s sick and tired of the music business, and he wants to sing and play music independently of the music industry. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=14)] Reception in the U.S.** Despite Williams’ immense popularity worldwide, he has yet to become a major chart or concert success in the United States or Canada. His first U.S. single, “Millennium,” made it to only #72 on the U.S. [Billboard](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard) charts, and his second, “Angels,” hit #41 (becoming the more commonly known Robbie Williams song to America.) “Rock DJ” was also released, but failed to chart. With the release of Escapology, Williams did a huge promotional tour in America, with EMI hoping that this would be the album that brought big success for Williams in the States. However, after performing the lead song “Feel” on such shows as Good Morning America and The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, the song and album failed to catch fire in America, though “Feel” became a good sized hit just north of the U.S. in Canada, where Robbie has enjoyed a warmer reception. However, more recent singles (particularly from _[Rudebox](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudebox_%28album%29)_) have performed somewhat better, particularly in dance clubs. Williams has sold just under a million albums in the USA. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=15)] Collaborations** In 2002 Williams appeared on the track ‘My Culture’ on the _[1 Giant Leap](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Giant_Leap)_ album, alongside [Maxi Jazz](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxi_Jazz). Robbie also features on a double CD titled “Concrete”, which was released on the same day as “Rudebox”. The CD features a concert for the BBC featuring the [Pet Shop Boys](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Shop_Boys) and Robbie singing their classic hit ‘Jealousy’. Their joint effort “She’s Madonna” will be released as a single in January 2007 as confirmed on the official [Pet Shop Boys](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Shop_Boys) website. **[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robbie_Williams&action=edit§ion=16)] Lifestyle and love life** [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d1/Robbie\_kissing\_fan.jpg/180px-Robbie\_kissing\_fan.jpg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Robbie_kissing_fan.jpg) [http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Robbie_kissing_fan.jpg) Williams kissing a fan during a performance Williams has left the UK and now lives in [Los Angeles, California](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles%2C_California). Officially he remains single, although rumours have come about that he has reportedly been dating actress, [Michelle Trachtenberg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Trachtenberg). In 2004, the German website set up by his record label to promote his music posted an allegedly nude photograph of Williams with his crotch area blurred out. They promised that if one million people clicked on the photo they would unblur the area and reveal the nudity. Once unblurred, it was revealed that Williams was in fact holding some sort of phallus in front of his actual genitals so that they could not be seen; 24 hours later, even this was covered by a miniature cut-out of his album cover_citation needed_ ([Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources))]. Subsequently Williams has stated in a variety of press interviews that he considers himself to be a [naturist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturist)/[nudist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudist) at heart[6] ([Robbie Williams - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Williams#_note-5)), jokingly commenting that he will “end up being one of those dads who embarrasses” his children. In late 2005 a campaign called “Get More” was launched by Williams’s label to promote his album _Intensive Care_. A video at the website featured thirty seconds of various camera close-ups of Williams’ nude body, culminating in a four-second full body shot where he was frontally nude and fondling his penis. Williams seemed to struggle with depression, insecurity, and self-loathing_citation needed_ ([Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources))]. When at the beginning of his solo career Robbie received lots of criticism from critics which led him to depression, drink and drugs. Robbie tried heroin once and vowed never to try it again and labelled it “the devil’s drug”. He has been clean from drugs and alcohol for more than 6 years. In his fly-on-the-wall documentary _[Nobody Someday](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nobody_Someday&action=edit)_ (2001) he repeatedly mocked his flamboyant but puppet-like behaviour on stage and felt that the persona and ‘brand’ of _Robbie Williams Popstar_ was a fake that he increasingly felt uncomfortable with. In more recent documentaries he yearns to become a credible artist in the eyes of the serious music press. In 2006 he appeared in “The Secret Life of the Manic Depressive”, a BBC documentary on bipolar disorder hosted by Stephen Fry where he spoke about his own experiences with this condition. Williams has been the subject of tabloid rumors about his sexuality but he has repeatedly denied the rumours. He appears to question his own sexuality in some well-known songs, such as “[Old Before I Die](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Before_I_Die)”, where he sings, “Am I straight or gay?”. He won a libel case against MGN and Northern & Shell in December 2005 relating to articles which had reported he was a secret homosexual [7] ([Robbie Williams - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Williams#_note-6)). In the libel action that resulted from this, Williams accepted substantial damages and the publishers accepted that the stories were untrue. His counsel, Tom Shields QC, told the court: “Mr Williams is not, and has never been, homosexual”. Gay rights campaigner [Peter Tatchell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Tatchell) called for any damages paid out from the libel case to be donated to gay charities, claiming Williams’ legal actions had created the impression that it is “shameful to be gay” [8] ([Robbie Williams - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Williams#_note-7)). Williams openly alleged that he was not bothered about being labelled gay, and he would have taken the same action had it been about a female relationship. He also publicly vowed that he would have sex with a guy in order to save a rabbit’s life [9] ([Robbie Williams - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Williams#_note-8)). What is also relevant is that in the months following the case, Williams’ record sales have shown a noticeable decline. The single “Sin Sin Sin” (released 6 months following the case) was his first single to fail to reach the UK top 20. Further singles the same year (2006) (Rudebox and Lovelight) may have returned him to the UK top 10, but have generally underperformed in relation to final sales. Also, Williams 2006 album _[Rudebox](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudebox)_ has been his lowest selling studio album to date - and has been vastly outsold by Williams’ former bandmates _[Take That](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_That)_. At present, Take That’s “Beautiful World” album has spent more time at no.1 than Williams’ “Rudebox” album has in the top ten. The court case has led some to draw comparisons between Williams and Australian actor/pop star [Jason Donovan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Donovan), who also once made a successful libel claim against a publication concerning his sexuality. Donovan won the case, but the act of his litigation alienated his many gay fans and he effectively destroyed his own career in the process. Robbie Williams created the charity that is set up in his home town [Give It Sum](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Give_It_Sum&action=edit)_citation needed_ ([Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources))]. Williams is a life long supporter of [Port Vale F.C.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Vale_F.C.), based in his home town of [Stoke-on-Trent](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoke-on-Trent). In February 2006 he bought £240,000 worth of shares in the club[10] ([Robbie Williams - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Williams#_note-9)). Williams with the help of his best friend [Jonathan Wilkes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Wilkes) recently organised a charity football match in an attempt to raise funds in Africa. This match was played in May 2006 at Old Trafford, Manchester. The participants were an England team full of legends and celebrities. It was a very successful event raising more than one million pounds for charity_citation needed_ ([Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources))]. According to The Sun, he spent £8 million on a 115ft Athena cruiser from Italy’s leading boat company, [Riva](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riva). Robbie has denied this. He was interview on the Today show in Australia where he informed us that he hates boats and finds them boring. There was no way he would buy one. Although lyrics from his Escapology success “Come Undone” may suggest otherwise, where Robbie sings “So write another ballad, Mix it on a wednesday, Sell it on a thursday, Buy a yacht by saturday”. Williams is rumored to like Ducati motorbikes, own a 1973 Jaguar E-Type Convertible and XKR convertible (1st generation). Old newspaper articles report that Robbie and [Geri Halliwell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geri_Halliwell) have dated, but the relationship broke up after a week. Williams has recently developed a close friendship with the magician [Paul Daniels](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Daniels). In 2006, Daniels and his wife, Debbie McGee, appeared in the ITV1 show [The X Factor: Battle Of The Stars](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_X_Factor:_Battle_Of_The_Stars&action=edit). They were the first act voted off the show, after singing [Let Me Entertain You](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Me_Entertain_You). Robbie is also rumored to often look himself up on the Internet.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/77 "2007-01-30T18:02:22Z")
oh thats who he is… cool ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/78 "2007-01-30T18:32:41Z")
i still think its a trap- RUN! ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/79 "2007-01-31T01:07:53Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Does she do white chocolate? Those truffle bars come in white (but are missing the cacao parts, so they’re not as dark chocolate psychoactive). White chocolate? You betcha! Now to find a store that sell them. Tootsie Rolls are about as adveturous and up to date as they get here. Then again there _is_ the Jelly Belly factory just across the border… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722/80 "2007-01-31T01:15:38Z")
Illegally smuggling Jelly Belly’s can be dangerous you know? Oh and BTW Tootsie Rolls can be very adventurous if used correctly with the proper mood lighting. Just be careful of using them in the dark! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thumb-rules/1722.md?page=5)