# Tigerlilly's Reports **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666 "2009-03-02T19:48:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/81 "2009-03-31T17:43:04Z")
Fuck me, has anyone else ordered from the naughty place and had terrible shipping? I ordered a bloody fecking month ago and they are just getting around to emailng me the confirmation that it’s processing. I spent a bloody fortune there and I haven’t the foggiest notion where my shit is! Grrr… 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/82 "2009-04-01T18:47:10Z")
> [@tigerlilly](#): > > _So I just got out of the office and gave Him the wine b-day gift. Wore a slightly tweaked mix. Still unsure how it all worked out._ > > _Shock and Horror this afternoon as I discovered that I am OUT of p 74. Like, totally out. Nothing in the bottle. HOW did this happen??? Oh no!! There was one spray loaded in the gun, a half spray of mist, then a few death squirts. I opened the lid and stuck my pinky in there to scrape out the last of the liquid. What happened? Who stole my p74? It was not that low the last time I used it! Like, not empty._ > > _sigh So that was a challenge. I upped the honesty a bit. I am hesitant to use straight betanol as this guy had a neg reaction the first time I used it. Logically, the circumstances are quite different now, but I am still gun shy. I added standard 50mcgs of p86, cops, and threw in p83 as the wildcard. 35mcgs._ > > _I was tweaking the deep, emotional bond from previous encounters and trying to add a forward momentum, impulsive, active element. I was concerned about the aggressive/irritability, but ultimately decided to go with it. The base of all this was high dose TAH. I topped it all off with medium dose TAF._ > > _The mix felt good. With TAF, the visual effects of the 86 are more prounounced. The airbrushing was still there, but there was also a sharpness and vividness to the world. I could see each leaf blowing in the wind. The 83 tapped into my witty, acerbic toungue a bit. It was more present than other times I wear TAH. It was also calming, pleasant. Centered. Serene._ > > _He was very surprised to see me. Not pleasantly surprised like last time though - confused surprised. That threw me off. He was very surprised about the gift. He did initiate conversation to keep me there during his whole dinner hour though. Kept asking questions and we fell back into our long running convos. It was fun, but more serious. There was an undertone, which I attributed to his shock. He stopped at one point, and managed to stutter out that the gift wasn’t “neccessary.” I told him of course it wasn’t neccessary. It was freely given. He didn’t want to open it in front of me, but settled on opening the card, after asking me if I wanted him to open it. It seemed like he was afraid there’d be some declaration in the card of love or somesuch. Nope, no such thing. 🙂 just a harmless card._ > > _At the end, he shook my hand, said thanks in his stuttering, nervous way, said it was much appreciated, and thanks for reminding him how old he was. He seemed wide-eyed that I knew how old he was - there is an age difference, one I suspected might be an issue for him, in terms of “why does she like me?”_ > > _The final thanks and goodbye were quiet, stammered and very uncharacteristic of him. “I really appreciate it, thanks, really.” Then a looong, slow, head to toe look. 😮 definitely threw me for a loop, that one!_ > > _The whole evening seemed to be like a gauntlet had been thrown down. I think I spooked him a bit, even though there was nothing more to the gift/card than a friendly overture. I work very hard to have no expectations or pressure on our time spent together. He commented on how I now live very close to him at one point. (Hmmm 🙂 ) at this point, I have no choice but to fall back again and see what happens._ > > _Waiting sucks. 🙂_ > > _I wonder what he’s thinking. This dance of ours is very interesting. Oh well. I am currently eating a burrito and drinking a beer on the beach, while typing on my Blackberry. Life is pretty good. 🙂_ > > _Back to work, though. The storm approaches…_ **Massive Edits** Anyone else reflect on your phero notes and then go back and tweak your understanding of an experience based on that?? I have to add to this report from Monday night. I have decided that the increased tensions and what I interpreted as nervous energy was amplified/augmented, and possibly partially created by the p83. I definitely should NOT have included it, in retrospect. The calming, centered, grounding feeling was there. Heavy, but not too heavy. Present. but an element of agitation or potential for agitation. Negative/nervous energy (that was definitely present) could & did be or get expressed. I can see the TAH “battling” with the p83 for calm serene happiness, and the TAF providing an open flow to experiences/augmenting the 86. Definitely a weird mix. Probably not the smartest one I did… not for repeats, definitely. However, I was cramped in my style by my utter lack of p74! Wah! 🙄 The heavy feeling lasted and overcame all else. When I wrote this message above, I was very internalized. Pleasant, but also somewhat calmly empty. Sort of like a p87 feeling, but with an added positive feeling, which I dont get with p87. So, not really comparable… Calm, internal, measured … not happy, not sad… not empty… level. But very internal. I was attractive to others though. Lots of acknowledgment and friendly chatter coming to me (without a desire from me to continue) at the bar while I was eating. The next day, I was super, super happy. Not TAA happy, but verrry content and peacefully happy, like I get when I wear high TAH doses. Lor mentioned that TAH was sticky… but for this long? I was suspicious, but either a) the TAH lasted well into the next day and I was still grooving off of the high dose I wore, or b) I was having one of those weird days when I am just TAH happy on my own. Perhaps the TAF extended it? I feel the TAF lasted into the next day as well. I had “classic” TAF self effects the next day, even almost 24 hours after application. My evening run was incredible. Each pavement strike, each wind gust, every leaf in the wind… I could experience it all. The run was so enjoyable I didn’t want to stop, and even kept walking long after my route was over. I wanted to bask in the sun, walk the earth and _be_ outside, among the world. It was verrry enjoyable, the next day. 🙄 Too late for Him though! ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/83 "2009-04-03T17:00:19Z")
Report XXXIII **Product Name, Scent & Strength:** TAF, 2.5mcg, [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) Scented **Application Dosage & Locations:** 55mcg - neck/chest/head/shoulder/arms/tummy/etc **Environment Tested In:** Self @ home office **Self Effects:** - 5 minutes - tingling and a seeming “widening” of my visual field. Beginning to notice increased sensory expereinces/input. +10 minutes - significant visual intensity. Colors are brighter, the tree leaves are waving just so, each blade and leaf fluttering. The harmonies and melodies of the music I am listening to are flowing perfectly together. I feel like I am one with the world and everything in it. Hmm, this is interesting… my pupils are shaking! My pupils are contracting and dilating rapidly, especially as I try to focus in on something, The more I try harder to look at them specifically, the more the pulsate. When I relax. my visual field seems to expand and I feel like I am slightly unfocussed in my vision. There is a pretty strong observer effect going on. I feel a cerebral disconnect from the world - I am a part of it, but I am also within it and above it. Not interacting, per se, but distant. I feel very internal. I feel like my “back brain” is working hard. - 30 minutes - I am very into this testing. I dont normally track minute by minute changes. My pulse is lower, significantly so. This is pretty interesting, because my morning routine consist of snorting as much coffee as I can before I get the shakes. I have a low pulse with extra coffee this morning, two cups more than normal. Very unusual. Pulse is staying low too. My intensity to work has increased. I like my work, want to complete it, and do it right, do it well. I’ve focused in, but not overly so. not significantly, but a good amount. Its notable for it not being a ADD effect, and slightly more than my normal focus. I am also very into pouring my coffee - the sound of the liquid, the way it feels the cup just so, leaving perfect room for the creamer… How many breaths does it take to fill a coffee cup? How many steps to the fridge? How cold is the creamer? - 1 hour - slight amnesia effect. Things I did an hour ago are forgotten. An inability to make long term memories out of actionable tasks. Self effects stopped being overly pronounced at about 45 minutes to an hour. Until… 6 hours into testing, my eyes were fatigued. They were tearing up and watering; it was like I was struggling to keep them open, forcing them to stay awake, to stay working. The harder I forced them open, the more tired they became. I checked them out in the mirror and their reactions had switched! They were pinpoint (total pinpoint) in dark conditions, and when the lights went on, dilated to pie-eyes. Large pie-eyes. 8 hours into testing, I decided I was tired. I felt tired, physically, especially in my eyes, but my brain was not either accepting the tired signals or processing them. I laid down and went to bed early, but Could Not Sleep. My eyes were finally out of energy, and I was literally crying at this point (not emotionally - eyes were watering and leaking out). I laid there for hours, unable to sleep. My body was shutting down, but my brain was not. I was in a weird limbo of body off/sleeping, brain going, going, going. Weird thoughts too. An inability to focus on one thing, hold one thought. I tried to drink wine to sedate myself/make me fall asleep - did nothing! Only enhanced the out of body/dizzy aspects of being drunk, but did nothing for increasing sleep. The wine tasted different though. When I finally did go to sleep, after 5 hours of laying there in this limbo, I did not experience any REM sleep until the very very end. I am totally zonked out, dead today. I also had a slight, very slight cold the previous day. I was actually thinking I was over it. No snuffles, but a slight sore throat that I had throughout the week. yesterday was what I thought was the last day. Oh no! Guess what - now my cold is back, settled in, and here to stay. I woke up feeling like I had been run over by a truck. Sinuses filled, throat on fire, head feeling like its in a vice… ugh. This is terrible. Combined with exhaustion and the lingering effects from the TAF… God, kill me now. No, wait, I’d have to feel better to feel dead. **Effects to Others:** People were very social! I wasn’t quite in the right mind frame to be social back to them though. The social observer/internal effect was pretty strong. Even when I did socially interact with others, I still was more into observing the world. People were giving me lasting smiles, lingering looks (social only) and were very open to interacting with me. I had more social niceties, quips, small talk, etc than usual. I seemed approachable, but in a very different way than with Shine/TAA. When I spent lasting time with someone, they would seem to start focusing in on the task at hand. We had a very productive meeting the afternoon, breezing through the agenda and tackling each issues efficiently. My eyes were burning and leaking, but they were having a great, productive time. **Duration of Effects:** Forever. Applied at 8:45am. Fell asleep finally after 11pm. Woke up wishing I were dead. **Range:** others within 3 feets **Time Exposure:** Immediate, and then about 3-5 minutes for lasting effects. **WHY did I do this???** I get great results with a medium dose of TAF. I have also noticed that I use higher doses of pheros to get similar reproducible effects in myself & others. My body biochemistry is “different” than others here. TAF sometimes changes it effects based on what dosage you are wearing, and since I had found a great dosage level at the mid range, I wanted to see what would happen at high doses. Clearly, Bad Things Happen. 🙄 I want to go back to bed. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/84 "2009-04-04T02:08:50Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Product Name, Scent & Strength: TAF, **2.5mcg** , Neroli Scented > > Application Dosage & Locations: **55mcg** - neck/chest/head/shoulder/arms/tummy/etc Please tell me this is a typo and you meant _27.5mcg._ If not, and you sprayed 22 sprays of a 2.5mcg dosage, I’m surprised you weren’t vomiting from the intensity of the neroli scent. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/85 "2009-04-04T04:56:33Z")
Nope, no typo! :o It’s only lightly scented… the neroli faded quickly. It took a _ton_ of sprays to get up there though… 20-30mcg’s is about par for the course for me w/ TAF. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/86 "2009-04-04T06:21:51Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Report XXXIII > > **Product Name, Scent & Strength:** > TAF, 2.5mcg, Neroli Scented > > **Application Dosage & Locations:** 55mcg - neck/chest/head/shoulder/arms/tummy/etc > > **Environment Tested In:** Self @ home office > > **Self Effects:** > > - 5 minutes - tingling and a seeming “widening” of my visual field. Beginning to notice increased sensory expereinces/input. > > +10 minutes - significant visual intensity. Colors are brighter, the tree leaves are waving just so, each blade and leaf fluttering. The harmonies and melodies of the music I am listening to are flowing perfectly together. I feel like I am one with the world and everything in it. Hmm, this is interesting… my pupils are shaking! My pupils are contracting and dilating rapidly, especially as I try to focus in on something, The more I try harder to look at them specifically, the more the pulsate. When I relax. my visual field seems to expand and I feel like I am slightly unfocussed in my vision. There is a pretty strong observer effect going on. I feel a cerebral disconnect from the world - I am a part of it, but I am also within it and above it. Not interacting, per se, but distant. I feel very internal. I feel like my “back brain” is working hard. > > - 30 minutes - I am very into this testing. I dont normally track minute by minute changes. My pulse is lower, significantly so. This is pretty interesting, because my morning routine consist of snorting as much coffee as I can before I get the shakes. I have a low pulse with extra coffee this morning, two cups more than normal. Very unusual. Pulse is staying low too. My intensity to work has increased. I like my work, want to complete it, and do it right, do it well. I’ve focused in, but not overly so. not significantly, but a good amount. Its notable for it not being a ADD effect, and slightly more than my normal focus. I am also very into pouring my coffee - the sound of the liquid, the way it feels the cup just so, leaving perfect room for the creamer… How many breaths does it take to fill a coffee cup? How many steps to the fridge? How cold is the creamer? > > - 1 hour - slight amnesia effect. Things I did an hour ago are forgotten. An inability to make long term memories out of actionable tasks. > > Self effects stopped being overly pronounced at about 45 minutes to an hour. > > Until… > > 6 hours into testing, my eyes were fatigued. They were tearing up and watering; it was like I was struggling to keep them open, forcing them to stay awake, to stay working. The harder I forced them open, the more tired they became. I checked them out in the mirror and their reactions had switched! They were pinpoint (total pinpoint) in dark conditions, and when the lights went on, dilated to pie-eyes. Large pie-eyes. > > 8 hours into testing, I decided I was tired. I felt tired, physically, especially in my eyes, but my brain was not either accepting the tired signals or processing them. I laid down and went to bed early, but Could Not Sleep. My eyes were finally out of energy, and I was literally crying at this point (not emotionally - eyes were watering and leaking out). I laid there for hours, unable to sleep. My body was shutting down, but my brain was not. I was in a weird limbo of body off/sleeping, brain going, going, going. Weird thoughts too. An inability to focus on one thing, hold one thought. > > I tried to drink wine to sedate myself/make me fall asleep - did nothing! Only enhanced the out of body/dizzy aspects of being drunk, but did nothing for increasing sleep. The wine tasted different though. > > When I finally did go to sleep, after 5 hours of laying there in this limbo, I did not experience any REM sleep until the very very end. I am totally zonked out, dead today. > > I also had a slight, very slight cold the previous day. I was actually thinking I was over it. No snuffles, but a slight sore throat that I had throughout the week. yesterday was what I thought was the last day. Oh no! Guess what - now my cold is back, settled in, and here to stay. I woke up feeling like I had been run over by a truck. Sinuses filled, throat on fire, head feeling like its in a vice… ugh. This is terrible. Combined with exhaustion and the lingering effects from the TAF… God, kill me now. No, wait, I’d have to feel better to feel dead. > > **Effects to Others:** People were very social! I wasn’t quite in the right mind frame to be social back to them though. The social observer/internal effect was pretty strong. Even when I did socially interact with others, I still was more into observing the world. People were giving me lasting smiles, lingering looks (social only) and were very open to interacting with me. I had more social niceties, quips, small talk, etc than usual. I seemed approachable, but in a very different way than with Shine/TAA. When I spent lasting time with someone, they would seem to start focusing in on the task at hand. We had a very productive meeting the afternoon, breezing through the agenda and tackling each issues efficiently. My eyes were burning and leaking, but they were having a great, productive time. > > **Duration of Effects:** Forever. Applied at 8:45am. Fell asleep finally after 11pm. Woke up wishing I were dead. > > **Range:** others within 3 feets > > **Time Exposure:** Immediate, and then about 3-5 minutes for lasting effects. > > **WHY did I do this???** I get great results with a medium dose of TAF. I have also noticed that I use higher doses of pheros to get similar reproducible effects in myself & others. My body biochemistry is “different” than others here. TAF sometimes changes it effects based on what dosage you are wearing, and since I had found a great dosage level at the mid range, I wanted to see what would happen at high doses. Clearly, Bad Things Happen. 🙄 > > I want to go back to bed. ZOMG! The alcohol and neroli alone in that many sprays would burn your eyes! I’d end up in the hospital with a breathing tube with that many sprays… Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/87 "2009-04-04T21:49:46Z")
yay for the bubble of dumb! 🙂 boooo for not feeling well ! ☹ TAF kicks my ass, dude. i dont know how you did it. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/88 "2009-04-05T12:05:55Z")
Its not the alcohol, its the TAF. I know you’ll think “what the heck does Tisha know” but believe me you really really do not need that much TAF. Its just not good for you. So many people have the more is better mentality and really its just not so with mones. Of course its worth testing once or twice at a mega dose just to see whats up with it but I wouldnt use any chemical in high dosages like that for a prolonged period of time. With some mones a little go’s a long way 😉 Thanks for taking one for the team 😃 Great report Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/89 "2009-04-06T18:40:42Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Its not the alcohol, its the TAF. I know you’ll think “what the heck does Tisha know” but believe me you really really do not need that much TAF. Its just not good for you. > > So many people have the more is better mentality and really its just not so with mones. Of course its worth testing once or twice at a mega dose just to see whats up with it but I wouldnt use any chemical in high dosages like that for a prolonged period of time. > > With some mones a little go’s a long way 😉 > > Thanks for taking one for the team 😃 Great report > > Tisha No, I do not have the “more is better” mentality. However, with some of these molecules, they are fundamentally different at different dosage levels. Alpha nol changes from chatty cathy to spaceland type effects, beta nol goes form deep convo to crazy emotional highs and time dilations. TAF with me at low doses is a fixative, medium doses a focuser and really effects the RAS. I was trying to see if there was social effect with high doses - looks like not with me! 🙂 I think it’s important to individually test everything at multiple levels to see how they effect you and others. I had played it safe with TAF, but wanted to really stretch the boundaries and push it out to see what happens. Obviously, I will not be doing that again with this puppy! 🙂 And no, I never think “What does Tisha know?” 😉 You know quite a bit. How many years (decades?) have you been doing this? Thanks for reading and checking in! Much appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/90 "2009-04-08T00:10:10Z")
> [@Best High of My Life](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-high-of-my-life/27795/1): > > (Best high of my life…) Was this Sunday. I was in Heaven. **Heaven on earth was recreated in my mind**. I was so ridiculously happy. **Literally, toe curling, back arching** , singing at the top of my lungs, sun worshipping, **beach loving happy**. > > I had a meeting in the morning, then went out to play all afternoon. I only had the 'mones on from the meeting, but they were _intense_. > > **I was in love with the world**. I was in love with everyone I saw. I was in love with the sun. I was in love with plants, flowers, streetlights, the cobblestone streets. I walked on the beach for _hours,_ listening to the sound of the waves breaking, standing in the surf and feeling the waves break on my shins. The sand glittered gold all around me. **I was deeply rooted and interconnected with the rhythms of the surf and the sun**. I was buffeted on one side by the moon and the other by the sun. > > I ended up at a biker bar with a live band (one guy and a guitar, with his buddy the drummer). He was a biker’s biker. Rode all the old roads, and now was strumming his guitar at the beachfront bar, singing old sad songs to new, young bucks. His voice was layered with sad experience and wild old days. It sounded like crushed velvet, or a warm fire on a perfectly still night, or the crackle of a paper bag around a bottle of whiskey. > > **Time stood still**. **I followed the sun and the sand all day**. Words are entirely inadequate to describe this high. I’m serious, my toes were curling and my back was arching, the pleasure and happiness was so intense. (No sex, no physical sensations - just pure, unadulterated happiness.) > > **It wasn’t social** per se - I didn’t have really any external hits. Lots of people said “hi” to me on the streets, but I think that was more a function of my totally open and ridiculously happy body language than any pheros. > > I was **deep inside myself** - it was a **contented, deeply felt pleasure**. Not a superficial Happy. A solid, deep, contentment, an interconnection to the world, a love for all things. **I saw the spiritual value and utter beauty of everything**. > > I think you all know a little bit about me to know that this _is_ _not_ _me._ > > **What do you think I was wearing? 😉** > > PS - The photos do _not_ have the sparkle that was there yesterday. Where did the pink & gold glitter go? Harumph! The biker singer was incredible. > [@Tigerlilly](#): > > If Sunday were set to music, it would be the Beatles “All You Need is Love” mixed with U2’s “Beautiful Day” and POD’s “Alive.” I still cannot get over the **mystical, timeless, deeply connected, deeply spiritual, immutable presence** of the day. I was operating a **different level of consciousness**. My reality was entirely different than it normally is. I was in a **space of utter peace, harmony, and love**. That space was warm, serene, and **seemingly never ending**. Bliss. Sheer happiness. **Utter peace and love of self**. Betanol TAF That’s it. 🙂 Oldies but goodies. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/91 "2009-04-08T00:23:46Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Betanol > TAF > > That’s it. 🙂 > > Oldies but goodies. How much were you wearing of each? BTW, Betanol is one of my most favorite mones! 😛 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/92 "2009-04-08T04:33:45Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > How much were you wearing of each? > > BTW, Betanol is one of my most favorite mones! 😛 > > Diane It rapidly became a fav of mine too! 😃 I went phero free yesterday, but pumped up the I/Honesty today. Had a great connection wtih a coworker and really worked thru some stuff. Also tapped into that deeply felt, mystical contentment too, though less so than Sunday. Don’t think I’ll ever get there again… 37.5 mcg Betanol 7.5mcg TAF ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/93 "2009-04-08T19:32:00Z")
Sprayed 7.5 mcg TAF just before my run last night. Increased my distance by almost 50%. Also, my pace and breathing were perfectly syncopated and on target - even going up and down hills. Good stuff. However, I sleep very poorly with TAF around. I do not get rested/quality sleep. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/94 "2009-04-16T01:50:54Z")
Interesting report about the run. I have tried it too with both running and martial arts. I think I may have sweated a lot of it off running (during the summer). Mixed results with the martial arts. Focus but some over-exertion. I posted on it if you are interested. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/95 "2009-04-16T19:06:13Z")
EST questions - Is there a ghosting if you wear “too much?” What has been other peoples’ best application point? Do you guys get any self effects from est? ---
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Had an … eventful Saturday - I was going out hiking, and on the drive up, the car in front of my spun out and flipped over, ejecting the driver thru the windshield and down into a 300 ft canyon. I am a medic, so I was a bit of a ricky rescue and climbed down into the canyon to treat him. Serious lacerations and major bleeding, though it was starting to clot. He had already bled out all over the canyon floor, at least 2-3 liters. Pulse rapid and weak, respirations wild and erratic. The weather was horrible - 35 degrees, snowy, stormy. Cap refill was meaningless and skin signs were poor. He was holding his head and screaming. Eyes fixed and midpoint. A&O x 2. Good airway though. Rapid trauma showed no apparent signs of major fractures or internal injuries. I was shocked. SAMPLE history negative on all pertinent questions. The crevice was a perfect reverse trendelenberg, so I maneuvered him into position and kept him in neutral cervical alignment. Tried to warm him up as best as I could with my little fleece jacket and body heat. Was watching for signs of ICP - didn’t see it though. I had no BP or stethoscope, but his pulse and respirations were not indicative of ICP. Still trying to share body heat with him, I jackknifed his legs into the air to try and shunt the blood back to his core. When people dump off into decompensated shock, it happens quick. I didn’t have an appreciation for that before. I lost the radial pulse, then his resp rate dumped. He stopped breathing. I still could feel a weak carotid pulse, so I started rescue breathing. I went 4 breaths before he started breathing on his own again. I was able to talk another driver through the climb down and over to where I was. He brought more blankets and bandages. He couldn’t get up into the crevice with me, but the other guy was able to elevate the legs while I kept working on the shock. The driver was now entirely unresponsive. I did what I could with what I had. Kept him warm, kept tracking vitals. The SAR team was on it’s way, but it had already been an hour, and they weren’t going to get there for another hour at least. We were buried in the wilderness. It was very, very hairy for 20 minutes. I thought it would end up being a recovery mission, as opposed to a rescue. But, his vitals started getting stronger. I got a radial pulse back, and his resp rate was climbing. However, now we had a whole new set of problems. His radial pulse climbed up to 114 by the time the SAR team arrived, an hour later. His resp rate was 15 bpm. He was experiencing waves of pain emanating from his neck. He was reacting to the pain and communicating with me again, though was generally in a stupor. Eyes fixed and midpoint still. On deep inhalation, he was now sputtering and coughing. His arms had moved into decorticate posturing, but still had movement and sensation in his extremities. The flight medics rappelled in from the rescue helicopter while the ground team rappelled down the other canyon wall. The weather had turned ugly, so they couldn’t get a visual fix on us and were navigating blind. One rescuer was able to get an O2 bag to me before going back to guide the rest of the team in. Put him on O2 as the rest of the team got in position around me. The lead medic took my report then handed me a bp cuff and ears. Did another set of vitals while the medic set up his portable EKG and pulse ox. Pulse 120, Resp 15, BP 180/110, A&O x1, Lungs rales, eyes fixed and midpoint. It was cold - 35 degrees, so skin signs were meaningless. Pulse ox said 92. I wanted to cry. EKG said Sinustachy. We started a high flow IV drip, saline. They were all clipped in and clambering around the canyon wall, so they could move into position for the spinal. I held the head up at the top while we did the C-collar and rolled, then parked him on a Miller Board. Spinal sucks in a crevice. You never get to do it in a comfy, cushy classroom. Then we swing the rescue litter in from the feet, and strapped all 90 bazillion clips and webbing together for the helicopter lift. Unfortunately, the weather was even worse now, so the chopper veered off and couldn’t get to us. We had to rappel the victim down the canyon, across the ravine, and up the other canyon wall ourselves. They got the other civilian out of there earlier, so it was me and the SAR team. I became right side belay, and another female was left side belay. The big, beefy, hunky flight medics and SAR dudes were carrying the litter. We were tethered to the litter for when the guys slipped. The vertical descent was easy. Going through the ravine was rough. It might as well have been the ice-capedes, what with them slipping on all the shale. We reset the belay points three times. Another team had set up rappel points and a climbing winch on the other side of the canyon, in case the chopper couldn’t get in, so we were all set to ascend once we got through the rough bits. Victim was unresponsive when we finally loaded him into the ambulance. The whole process took 5 hours. I was on scene with him alone for two hours, then the rescue and evacuation took another 2.5. It took half an hour to ascend the canyon. It sucked. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/97 "2009-04-16T19:14:27Z")
Anyways, thats why i havent been around… i will probably delete that post in a few days… just wanted to share it for a bit… i’m still pretty banged up. im typing one handed - the other arm is in a sling, so iv given up on punctuation. i cut and pasted the above from my email to a co-worker. “He” was unsympathetic. 😠 considering this is his field, i expected more. Prior to all this crap, i had some fun experiences with EST tho… that stuff is powerful… ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/98 "2009-04-16T19:32:40Z")
So 1st nite out w/ est… I wore the same clothes/hair from earlier that day, and went back to the same area i had been in before, to try and see any kind of w/ and w/out phero effects. earlier that day - nada. just another face on the street. w/ pheros: oh boy! I wore: TAL, EST 100mcg +little baby beginning squirt, p86 & p83 3:1 ratio recc’d by Warren, TAA - covered w/ fun floral perfume (the only one that others like from my sample pack…) A skateboarder going past me got whiplash from turning his head. eyes big as sand dollars, and then he plowed head on into the traffic light pole. He was ok, thank goodness, but it was hysterical. 🙂 at the restaurant, the friend of the guy who invited me out was all goggly-eyed. He’s middle eastern, and seemed to be wavering between my two pheros - TAL and EST. Wanted to take care of me and was gazing softly at me, then would ramp up into the TAL vibe too. It was fun. The guy who invited me out was a sort-of friend/acquaintance i met out bar hopping. we both share a dislike of babies. So… why then did he start spouting that i would be an incredible mother _to an infant_ (which i am a mother, but never to infants) about 2 hours later?? 😕 we’ve only ever seen each other socially at bars. He’s never met the boys (the boys have actually been w/ the other family relatives for a while now. ☹) craziness. I have the maternal nature of arnold schwarzenagger. He was goggly eyed and begging me to go home with him. was professing all sorts of feelings. I hate when ppl beg - didnt go home w/ him. Not terribly interested in him either. _next!_ wore more est the next two days, but not a lot of overt hits - i decided its not a social phero. maybe because of Lor i thought it could be worked as a social, but i think that she gets great use out of it in a social context because they _have_ to be around her. Once they are in her sphere, it acts upon them, but it isn’t an attention grabber _on it’s own._ Wearing it at a bar was basically useless, unless someone was around you for a bit, and interacting. One guy did stop me and tell me i was stunningly attractive, and asked what european country i was from? as i am originally from the south, i threw on my best redneck vocals and told him i was from the damn good USA. 😉 not much testing since. i _was_ planning on wearing TAF and betanol on my hike, to really have fun, but i waited and waited to put it on… guess there was a reason. Dont even want to think about pheros around a critical trauma patient in an unstable environment. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/99 "2009-04-16T19:34:42Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Interesting report about the run. I have tried it too with both running and martial arts. I think I may have sweated a lot of it off running (during the summer). Mixed results with the martial arts. Focus but some over-exertion. I posted on it if you are interested. I’ve read it. I agree that maybe the taf acted as a fixative, which was why u had trouble later on in your workout - couldn’t move beyond one point. My taf created a metronome effect with my pace and breath. couldn’t break it. I liked that for running, but i can see it being annoying elsewhere. Thanks for stopping by. 🙂 ---
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> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Anyways, thats why i havent been around… > > i will probably delete that post in a few days… just wanted to share it for a bit… > > i’m still pretty banged up. im typing one handed - the other arm is in a sling, so iv given up on punctuation. i cut and pasted the above from my email to a co-worker. > > my TG was unsympathetic. 😠 considering this is his field, i expected more. > > Prior to all this crap, i had some fun experiences with EST tho… that stuff is powerful… OMG. HOLY SH!T. first off, you did all that banged up??? HOLY SH!T, again. and TG , he was just blah about it? how is there crushing on an individual who needs a bigger event than this to give some attention? screw that. wanted to answer to the EST question but i cant really remember what i wanted to say… im still holy-shitting. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666.md?page=6)