# Tigerlilly's Reports **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666 "2009-03-02T19:48:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/101 "2009-04-16T19:44:45Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > EST questions - > > Is there a ghosting if you wear “too much?” > > What has been other peoples’ best application point? > > Do you guys get any self effects from est? um okay lets see … first, betanol rocks. i cant ever have too much of it . i havent noticed ghosting so much, but once when i spilled too much of it i got VERY dizzy, it had betanol in it too, but im pretty sure it was the EST that got me. more isnt better where EST is concerned; i wear anywhere from 75 - 100mu and that seems to elicit the responses im looking for. anymore and i am just wasting it. i get nothing more, and dont feel any better for having done it. self effects? not really. dizzy/spacy if use too much. its one of the few pheromones that dont really effect me positively, if it ever did, i have already acclimated. ☹ i like the results enough to use it daily, though 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/102 "2009-04-16T23:04:23Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > OMG. > > HOLY SH!T. > > first off, you did all that banged up??? > > HOLY SH!T, again. > > and TG , he was just blah about it? > > how is there crushing on an individual who needs a bigger event than this to give some attention? > screw that. > > wanted to answer to the EST question but i cant really remember what i wanted to say… > > im still holy-shitting. 🙂 I am in a sling right now - busted left elbow. I busted the elbow while belaying for the rescue team down the canyon, across the ravine, and up the other canyon. I’m flying out to the east coast tomorrow am, so maybe i’ll get to bump up to the front of the boarding line… other than that, just mildly hypothermic on saturday evening. in his defense - i emailed and said i wanted to talk about a “somewhat traumatic and unexpected incident” on saturday. He told me no problem, go ahead and send an email. In a pique of rage, i sent him a 20 page journal entry i had written on the experience. (I’ll send it to you too, if u want. writing is my catharsis.) He wrote back several several hours later: “Okay… maybe I should have said call…” LOL - i called him a butthead. i think we are solidly stuck in the friend zone. I told him i fully expect him to take me out for some beer, since this was so outside the norm. he laughed. I am going to go gimp all over him and make him feel bad. really cool thing - the hunky, beefy SAR guys are still in touch. 😃 we’re going out for drinks soon too. They were seriously _cool_ guys. Solid. Rock solid. I’d work with them any day. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/103 "2009-04-16T23:06:28Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > um okay lets see … > > first, betanol rocks. > i cant ever have too much of it . > > i havent noticed ghosting so much, > but once when i spilled too much of it i got VERY dizzy, > it had betanol in it too, > but im pretty sure it was the EST that got me. > > more isnt better where EST is concerned; > i wear anywhere from 75 - 100mu and that seems to elicit the responses im looking for. > anymore and i am just wasting it. > i get nothing more, > and dont feel any better for having done it. > > self effects? > not really. dizzy/spacy if use too much. > its one of the few pheromones that dont really effect me positively, > if it ever did, > i have already acclimated. ☹ > > i like the results enough to use it daily, though 😉 100 mcg seems good for me too - thats my dose though, so my choice is 100 or 200 if i spray 2x. seems weird w/ just one spray sometimes tho… 🙄 i dont get self effects either - was wondering if that was common. it’s hit or miss w/ me honestly, effects wise w/ others. needs more testing. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/104 "2009-04-17T02:54:50Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > 100 mcg seems good for me too - thats my dose though, so my choice is 100 or 200 if i spray 2x. seems weird w/ just one spray sometimes tho… 🙄 > > i dont get self effects either - was wondering if that was common. > > it’s hit or miss w/ me honestly, effects wise w/ others. needs more testing. I’m seriously glad you are okay, Tigerlilly! What a horrible thing to happen. I hope the guy pulls through. EST - it is not uncommon for women to not have self effects from this. The only effect I get is heightened sense of smell and attraction for my husband’s [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) signature. And, no, I’ve never experienced a ghosting with EST. My experience is exactly like Lor’s…60 - 75 mcg is optimal, over that and it is just a waste… no added effect, no ghosting. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/105 "2009-04-17T05:32:04Z")
the guy is going to be just fine - had an update earlier. broken C3 and a separated shoulder. serious concussion, but no cerebral edema. keeping him in neutral alignment prevented and shards from the C3 from penetrating the spinal column. serious anemia!! 🙂 he’s going to make a full recovery. 😃 😃 😃 in a totally weird twist of fate, i just spoke with my roommate tonight about it. they actually work at the same company and might know each other… how weird is that!? ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/106 "2009-04-17T05:50:03Z")
wild est experiment tonight - put on est, betanol, p74, p86, tah. Had to run to the mall to replace glasses before flying out tomorrow. my arm is in a sling, but that’s all. you guys know the backstory, but really, it could have been anything - that combo should be called instant male comfort. holy sheesh! i had to beat men (all men, only one women) off of me in comfort. utter strangers would run over to me to ask what had happened, try to cheer me up, try to help me. one guy who ran a photo studio tried reeeaaaallly hard to get me inside for a portrait - and he started zeroing in on me from about 50 yards. much outside sniffing distance… Hmmm… the ultimate teenaged kid at the fast food place bent over backwards to come around from the counter and fill up my soda cup for me, despite my protestations. i caught lots o’ stares. i don’t have a black eye or anything - its just a sling, people. i was wearing ratty jeans and a long sleeve grey t-shirt. hair in a pony tail - nothing fancy _at all._ sooo… since it was so weird, and since I am flying out tomorrow, i decided to swing by His office. i’ve actually started working with him professionally now (i swear, it wasn’t totally contrived) and now he’s a liaison to my consulting company. i send trainees to him for further specialized training. its worked great so far. anyways, i needed to chat with him about some business stuff and pout to him about being injured. well, he hadn’t seen me in a while, and we had only talked about the incident via email - his eyes went _huge_ when he saw me. “heeeeyyyyy!” all soft and surprised and sweet. “your email didn’t say you were banged up!” he let me _have_ it for being a ricky rescue and plunging down into the canyon. he was sputtering and all pissy. he was appropriately concerned for me though, and very sweet. I made an “ow” once - once - and he whipped around so fast I thought he would have whiplash. “r u ok? no ow, no ow!” he also brought up the wine from before, saying he hadn’t had it yet, but would most definitely let me know what he thought. admonished me to be safe. again and again. (like this will happen again 🙄) he was a running commentary as well - “you know, I don’t really talk to myself like this when you’re not here… i must be doing it for you.” hmmm… yes… or for the betanol… 😉 _Edit for notes - He was playful too. Fun loving and happy. Joking around._ he looked rough - he works sooo much. I am a workaholic, but damn, he puts me to shame. at least i take time out to go hiking… err… scratch that. 🙄 Bleh - oh well. this really put some things in perspective. being able to literally save and give life (or take it away) can do that. no matter what happens with this dude, i have made a truly good friend, and a valuable work partner. why ruin that with any complications? probably because we were trying to be _authentic_ with each other, we’ve developed a totally easy friendship. i almost fell asleep in his office today i was so tired, and he just let me drift away while his verbal commentary on his website problems went on and on… and on. i cherish my brief moments of calmness. my friends have christened me “the shit magnet.” 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/107 "2009-04-17T05:58:55Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I’m seriously glad you are okay, Tigerlilly! What a horrible thing to happen. I hope the guy pulls through. > > EST - it is not uncommon for women to not have self effects from this. The only effect I get is heightened sense of smell and attraction for my husband’s pheromone signature. > > And, no, I’ve never experienced a ghosting with EST. My experience is exactly like Lor’s…60 - 75 mcg is optimal, over that and it is just a waste… no added effect, no ghosting. > > Diane the first time i wore it (with tal) i had more of a tah type self-effect (but definite tal projected-effect). since then though, no self effects. i don’t know if it actually softened the self effects of the tal, or ?? i haven’t combined the two again. any tips on how/best way to dilute it down… if I wanted to? i have 100mcg/spray atm. glad your toilet got fixed. 🙂 What did the p91 do for that? i have it, but haven’t popped it open yet… ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/108 "2009-04-17T09:25:14Z")
Glad to hear you are OK - and so is the guy you went in to rescue. Work like that can have its exciting moments, you have to be careful and unfortunately every now and then you can get banged up too. Have a safe to trip to Philly. Hope you enjoy it. Are you going to try to catch up to Cookiegirl while you are there? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 9:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/109 "2009-04-17T09:31:27Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > wild est experiment tonight - > > put on est, betanol, p74, p86, tah. Had to run to the mall to replace glasses before flying out tomorrow. my arm is in a sling, but that’s all. you guys know the backstory, but really, it could have been anything - > > that combo should be called instant male comfort. holy sheesh! > > i had to beat men (all men, only one women) off of me in comfort. utter strangers would run over to me to ask what had happened, try to cheer me up, try to help me. one guy who ran a photo studio tried reeeaaaallly hard to get me inside for a portrait - and he started zeroing in on me from about 50 yards. much outside sniffing distance… Hmmm… the ultimate teenaged kid at the fast food place bent over backwards to come around from the counter and fill up my soda cup for me, despite my protestations. i caught lots o’ stares. i don’t have a black eye or anything - its just a sling, people. i was wearing ratty jeans and a long sleeve grey t-shirt. hair in a pony tail - nothing fancy _at all._ > > sooo… > > since it was so weird, and since I am flying out tomorrow, i decided to swing by His office. i’ve actually started working with him professionally now (i swear, it wasn’t totally contrived) and now he’s a liaison to my consulting company. i send trainees to him for further specialized training. its worked great so far. anyways, i needed to chat with him about some business stuff and pout to him about being injured. > > well, he hadn’t seen me in a while, and we had only talked about the incident via email - his eyes went _huge_ when he saw me. “heeeeyyyyy!” all soft and surprised and sweet. “your email didn’t say you were banged up!” > > he let me _have_ it for being a ricky rescue and plunging down into the canyon. he was sputtering and all pissy. he was appropriately concerned for me though, and very sweet. I made an “ow” once - once - and he whipped around so fast I thought he would have whiplash. “r u ok? no ow, no ow!” > > he also brought up the wine from before, saying he hadn’t had it yet, but would most definitely let me know what he thought. admonished me to be safe. again and again. (like this will happen again 🙄) he was a running commentary as well - “you know, I don’t really talk to myself like this when you’re not here… i must be doing it for you.” hmmm… yes… or for the betanol… 😉 > > he looked rough - he works sooo much. I am a workaholic, but damn, he puts me to shame. at least i take time out to go hiking… err… scratch that. 🙄 > > Bleh - oh well. this really put some things in perspective. being able to literally save and give life (or take it away) can do that. no matter what happens with this dude, i have made a truly good friend, and a valuable work partner. why ruin that with any complications? probably because we were trying to be _authentic_ with each other, we’ve developed a totally easy friendship. i almost fell asleep in his office today i was so tired, and he just let me drift away while his verbal commentary on his website problems went on and on… and on. > > i cherish my brief moments of calmness. > > my friends have christened me “the shit magnet.” 😠 Gah! I hope you land a rock solid (hard) SAR dude - someone with _foundation!_ Yah, good friends are important, but a girl’s gotta get pounded once in a while by someone who isn’t afraid to treat you right! L0L 😛 Diane ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/110 "2009-04-17T09:35:22Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > the first time i wore it (with tal) i had more of a tah type self-effect (but definite tal projected-effect). since then though, no self effects. i don’t know if it actually softened the self effects of the tal, or ?? i haven’t combined the two again. > > any tips on how/best way to dilute it down… if I wanted to? i have 100mcg/spray atm. > > glad your toilet got fixed. 🙂 > > What did the p91 do for that? i have it, but haven’t popped it open yet… First, I’m so glad they guy will be okay. He’s lucky you were there and knew your stuff. To dilute to 50.0 mcg mix it half and half with perfumer’s alcohol. For 25.0 mcg mix it one part to three parts of perfumer’s alcohol. You can get all the mixing stuff you need from Androtics’ website. P91 is awesome. Plan on trying it when you don’t have to go anywhere, though. Lor gets majorly stoned on a small amount. I’ve used up to 75 mcg and don’t get stoned. I just get slightly euphoric, and very loving and thoughtful. It is like the soft, euphoric side of Androsterone… very nice, very bonding. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/111 "2009-04-17T14:35:20Z")
yep, what Diane said. 🙂 P91 for some bizarre reason kicked my ass. at a low dosage,too. > [@](#): > > put on est, betanol, p74, p86, tah. awesome combination. outside of the house, i would bottle this combo up and wear it all the time. i have,in fact. at work? nevah!! i can see that mixture being instant female charisma. i hate that i cant be a girl at work. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/112 "2009-04-18T05:21:34Z")
Pheromones on a Plane! Pheromones at the Airport! I always get such a laugh out of the posts that crop up _like clockwork_ in the lounge and all over about pheros and travel. There is no reason to be concerned. There’s nothing wrong with pheros on a plane, or going thru security, or anything of the sort. I set out to prove that today. Put all my pheros, all originaly labeled in their togos and their big bottles (Molecule F, Molecule H, mx135, etc) in my clear plastic baggy and set it _right on top_ of the tray to go thru the scanner. I wanted it to be seen. It was a non-event. Treated as nothing. No alarms, no drug sniffing, chemical sniffing, crazy-ness. Nothing. Its totally safe. HOWEVER… As you all know, I am in a sling and bandaged up pretty heavily. I haven’t flown injured since the new new regs came into effect. I was unaware of this gem: anyone who is injured gets extra special “treatment.” The assumption is, of course,that you injured yourself doing some nefarious deed involving chemicals and things that go boom. I became very intimately acquainted with my TSA screener! She also took chem swabs of my brace, hands, sling and neck (where my pheros were). Nothing came up on the sensor whoo-da-haa. (Of course, because I wasn’t being nefarious when I was injured!) But it didn’t “read” the pheros either. So no sweat, even with a thorough hand check of you and your stuff. 🙂 Now, I of course was also _wearing_ pheros all day too. What was I wearing… Well, my new fave combo - est, p74, p86, TAH, instant honesty. Its so dreamy and perfect. A true _womens_ mix. (And I have some _serious_ thoughts about the womenly vibe given off by the TAH) Anyways… Combine the mix above with gimpy, bandaged up me, and it was a crazy, crazy day. Again, I couldn’t get the men to stop caring for me. Women were also starting to repond as the day wore on, but I think that’s a product of the TAH “aging” effect… Okay, so at the “intimate” screening, the screener and everybody around was super friendly and patient. They were also very cheerful with me. Uhh- TSA? Cheerful? I work in the same industry/dept and they are never cheerful. So at least my body cavity search was done with a smile - and gently!! They also helped pack my bag up, which was against regs - not that I am complaining. At the gate, it was a clusterfuck. The flight was overbooked by 10 ppl and they were looking gor volunteers to get the boot. I kept my head down. The stewardesses were very friendly towards me - And then! Oh shit!! I opened my bag to grab my laptop (one handed and all stupid looking) and found _no laptop!_ oh shit - it must still be at security. They let me get _off the plane_ and go back to check. So, picture this - a woman with long brown hair, busted lip, band aid on her forehead over her eye, and a sling, ass tearing running down the concourse (of course, the furthest gate away) towards security. Once there, I explained that my laptop must have _somehow_ (?) been forgotton - remember, they packed my bags, against regs. The TSA agents tore the place apart. They stopped the line and went thru _every single tray and bin_ until they found my laptop near the bottom of the stack. Holy shit. That was super awesome of them. And very, very out of character. So I took off running down the concourse again, this time with a laptop in hand. Several people I passed put 2 and 2 together and busted up laughing. It was funny - after the fact… On the plane - now I am hot and sweaty and _venting._ Seriously, I think ever male head on that plane followed me to my seat. It was weird. I also didn’t have to do anything - my bags were stowed, a blanket was draped over me, my air vent was opened. Sweet. I was also sitting next to a 1 year old. I have now (inadvertently) worn EST around a 4 month old and a 1 year old and had the exact same effect - they had a visceral repelling effect away from me, and a strong attractant to their mother. With the 4 month old, I was actually holding him, and he was doing everything he could to stay as far away as he could from my neck. ??? So that flight was relatively uneventful after all that. Lots of care and concern tho. At my connection, I was starving - I dashed to a little mexican place for some take out burrito stuff before boarding my next flight. The guys at the mexican place were crazy concerned with me. The zeroed in on me out of a HUGE airport crowd and kept chatting, not flirting, but trying to cheer me up. I didn’t need cheering, I was happy anyway, so I playfully chatted back and forth. The guys around me in line and in the crowd were laughing along and helping me out with my bag, my cup, napkins, etc. I finally get to the gate and am immediatly escorted on board for preboarding. I am the first one on the plane. No joke. The flight attendents strip me of everything and bring me back to my seat, put it all away, and then set up my food for me. Wow. What service. I had two real characters sit on either side of me (yucky centre seat). A loud mouthed, jovial guy from minnesota, and a quiet, serious, totally stuck up, totally arrogant, snobby cardiac surgeon. I know he was a cardiac surgeon because of the engraved bag and padfolio he was carrying. He was one of those guys who had the leather fancy wing tip shoes, and his sport coat was _that_ label, and his watch was rolex - and it was important that _you_ knew it. Total arrogant jerk. So I am struggleing to eat my burrito with a little plastic fork and one handed. Its sort of sliding all over the tray on the plate the stewards happily supplied for me. This is annoying the Jerk next to me. He’s been sitting there for about 5 minutes. He then reaches over and hold me plate steady as I try to cut into the tortilla. I am surprised, but he is helping, so I keep eating. He’s reading some cardiax surgey journal of super smart geekness, and is paying me _no_ attention, but is holding my plate steady… Then, I slip, and _fling_ mexican rice _all over_ his pants. Oh shit - he sighs heavily, and then… He takes my fork and proceedes to _feed me._ What the fuck!? Holy shit! Omg! The Jerk, who is not meeting my eyes, and never introduced himself the whole flight, and we never said more than 5 words total, is fucking feeding me. If it weren’t phero driven and totally helpful cause I was starving, I would have busted his nose in. So he fed me. My whole burrito. In silence. Then cleaned it up and threw it away. And went back to reading. I was sort of weirded out, but full, so I took a nap after chatting a bit to the guy on the other side - who didn’t really think the feeding thing was too strange… Thruout the whole flight, if I needed _anything_ The Jerk would do it or get it. Opened my soda, grabbed my ear phones, cleaned up my cup, flipped my tray, laid my jacke over me. We never said anything - aside from my Thank yous and his grunts. He never even looked me in the eyes. So, at the end of the flight, as I am struggleing into my jacket, I get one arm in and sort of dance around to get the other one over my shoulder. Again, The Jerk sighs all heavily and then _dresses me._ like, bundles me up. Then puts my bag on my shoulder too. And then is gone. Talk about weird… Getting off the plane, I am walking towards the front, and the male steward can see me walk down the whole aisle. When I am two feet from him, he suddenly looks horrified and calls out “wait!!! Ma’am, do you need a wheelchair?” Okay, seriosuly, I am only in a sling. I am not limping. I do not need a wheelchair. The whole days was like that. One helpful, caring thing after another. It was pretty awesome, but definitely weird! 🙂 Philly is still cold. I am staying with my brother in university city (cause his couch is free) and there’s some kind of crazy party going on in the city. Its like children of the freaking korn out there. 😮 I am super jet lagged… La di da… ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/113 "2009-04-18T05:33:57Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Gah! I hope you land a rock solid (hard) SAR dude - someone with _foundation!_ > > Yah, good friends are important, but a girl’s gotta get pounded once in a while by someone who isn’t afraid to treat you right! > > L0L 😛 > > Diane LOLOLOL!!! Yeah, I read your message _loud and clear_ Diane!! 😃 I had some promising email flirtation going with one of the SAR dudes… He hasn’t emailed in a few days tho… We’ll see. I see them all again in May at my first meeting as a shiny new official SAR team member. 😃 Mmmmmm… They were sooo hunky! ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/114 "2009-04-19T00:39:58Z")
See, with those kind of guys you don’t have to walk around on eggshells, being afraid you’ll hurt them. All you gotta worry about is how are you going to trip them, and where are you going to land? 😃 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/115 "2009-04-19T03:34:13Z")
MMMmmm… i agree! 😃 however, theres been radio silence or a few days now… following realtime email convo for several days… we’ll see! also… my gay-dar _must_ be broken… one guy from my last conference has stayed in touch and recently invited me out for dinner and drinks and dancing, to “talk about future contracts…” except i thought he was totally gay, so i took him seriously… he was referred to as “one of the girls…” and now, as i am in philly, he has sent me a message saying he was hoping i was having a good time and thinking about me 😮 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/116 "2009-04-20T03:07:01Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > MMMmmm… i agree! 😃 however, theres been radio silence or a few days now… following realtime email convo for several days… we’ll see! > > also… my gay-dar _must_ be broken… > > one guy from my last conference has stayed in touch and recently invited me out for dinner and drinks and dancing, to “talk about future contracts…” except i thought he was totally gay, so i took him seriously… he was referred to as “one of the girls…” > > and now, as i am in philly, he has sent me a message saying he was hoping i was having a good time and thinking about me 😮 > > 😕 or maybe you just turned a gay man straight!!! _ohhhh myyyy gawdddd_ were you wearing TAH around him? ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/117 "2009-04-20T03:38:46Z")
LOL - I don’t think so… this is _not_ the first time my gay-dar has hideously gone wrong. There are, very sadly, _several_ stories starring me hanging out at bars and chatting with some guys for several hours, before turning to them and asking “how long have you two been together/been a couple/how’s the gay scene here?” or some variety of such… Only to find out that they have been attempting to chat me up for teh past several hours! I don’t know what that says about their “game” or my observational skills… 🙄 This is what I wore around him: > [@](#): > > _IS/a (for the TAL ) > p74 - needed to harmonize and bring them into me; also to soften the TAL > p86 - love it, don’t leave home without it > CTTM - start & deepen convos > p87 - Absolutely KEY > cops to forearms > topped with med dose TAF & splash of TAA_ > > _Worked brill._ I sort of goofed that day and waaayyyy overloaded the cops… 😕 Other than that, nothing that shouts out to me as a reason for this… Not that I am complaining. He’s a great guy, as much as I know him so far. (still hoping SAR dude calls back before the first meeting in May…) We’ll see - I honestly do not have the time or the emotional energy to put forth towards developing a relationship right now. (I can hear Diane saying “Realtionship? Pshhh - mattress pounding, girl!”) Sadly, been there, done that - it lost it’s luster. I’m all about emotional depth and connections now. Polar opposite from where I used to be, but I have that luxury now. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/118 "2009-04-20T03:46:03Z")
i think wearing pheromones breaks-up our gaydar. 😃 kshhhhhhksht (can ya hear me now …?) ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/119 "2009-04-20T03:56:41Z")
This was waaaayyyy before pheros… I’m a general relationship malfunction anyway. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666/120 "2009-04-20T04:27:08Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > LOL - I don’t think so… this is _not_ the first time my gay-dar has hideously gone wrong. There are, very sadly, _several_ stories starring me hanging out at bars and chatting with some guys for several hours, before turning to them and asking “how long have you two been together/been a couple/how’s the gay scene here?” or some variety of such… > > Only to find out that they have been attempting to chat me up for teh past several hours! I don’t know what that says about their “game” or my observational skills… 🙄 > > This is what I wore around him: > > > [@](#): > > > > \*IS/a (for the [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ) > > [p74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) - needed to harmonize and bring them into me; also to soften the [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) > > [p86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) - love it, don’t leave home without it > > [CTTM](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) - start & deepen convos > > [p87](https://pheromonelabs.com/) - Absolutely KEY > > cops to forearms > > topped with med dose [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) & splash of [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) > > > > Worked brill. \* > > I sort of goofed that day and waaayyyy overloaded the cops… 😕 Other than that, nothing that shouts out to me as a reason for this… Not that I am complaining. He’s a great guy, as much as I know him so far. > > (still hoping SAR dude calls back before the first meeting in May…) > > We’ll see - I honestly do not have the time or the emotional energy to put forth towards developing a relationship right now. (I can hear Diane saying “Realtionship? Pshhh - mattress pounding, girl!”) > > Sadly, been there, done that - it lost it’s luster. I’m all about emotional depth and connections now. Polar opposite from where I used to be, but I have that luxury now. Three things in your mix cause mental distance - TAA, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and P87. Each of these can interfere with deep resonance that can lead to real tight bonding. Looks like you don’t want a tight relationship if you really like that mix. LOLZ. Diane [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tigerlillys-reports/26666.md?page=7)