# Time and place for CTTM2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 16, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-and-place-for-cttm2/21481 "2008-10-16T04:24:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-and-place-for-cttm2/21481/1 "2008-10-16T04:24:40Z")
Ok, so I have been playing with my bottle of Come Talk To Me Mix 2. I have found it a bit more powerful than [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) alone. 1 to 1 CTTM is a more aggressive conversation agent. Situation- Laundry night, (my monthly trek to the laund-0-mat Aka “Washer world”) 6 loads of laundry to wash, typically several college women around or through. wearing- 1 spray Instant Honesty 4x (split on forearms) 2 sprays CTTM2 (shot to back of head and hair) 1 spray ammo to the chest. (2 drops A314 applied to forearms this morning or 12 hours earlier, I have had solid hits from it before so I mentioned it) conditions - 70\*F and very humid 95% humidity, raining lightly. Hits- College woman folding and packing up her laundry, as I was packing in and starting wash. starts jabbering at me about having to do laundry, how nothing ever comes out in the way of stains. I tried steering the conversation to something else, such as the weather, school etc. her cell rang and it was her boyfriend, she answered it, stuffed crammed and threw her clothes in the baskets and left. but on her last trip out she stopped and said with a smile “talk to you later” Owner - 40+ year old male, slightly less mental ability, but we have talked from time to time. he came in and started talking, about the weather, what all he needed to do, things he has changed to increase profitiblity without loosing customers. (must have been an IH hit, because he was giving away information about the place that should not be shared. another college guy came in and we were all three talking about vehicle repairs, and various things. Finally after an hour and a half, the owner left, saying it had stopped raining enough he needed to work on his van. I thought he was going to follow me home. the college guy starts rambling on about where he lives, where he goes to school travel to meet his GF on weekends, classes, etc, Conclusions- CTTM2 with IH and Ammo, pretty good mix, but not as steerable reactions as with A314, IH and CTTM2. CTTM2 works better on those with less cognitive ability, should be killer with Dumb blonds. Need to try this mix again on a night when all the college girls are in there, I figured more would care less about the debates and do laundry. ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-and-place-for-cttm2/21481/2 "2008-10-16T19:02:06Z")
Nice one Woofie2, reps for your observations… it’s odd to think that the tweak from 30/70 to 50/50 produces such markedly different results. Or are there small doses of “steering” [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) that ain’t -nols, do you know, that are peculiar to CTTM? ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-and-place-for-cttm2/21481/3 "2008-10-16T19:18:32Z")
> [@ntk23](#): > > Nice one Woofie2, reps for your observations… it’s odd to think that the tweak from 30/70 to 50/50 produces such markedly different results. Or are there small doses of “steering” pheromones that ain’t -nols, do you know, that are peculiar to CTTM? Yes, the results are particular to CTTM, without the -none products the hits can be erratic and drag on for almost ever, with the -none added I find I can have a little more control over the conversation. With out any none, the conversations can drag on forever. ---
**Author:** ![lukester19](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lukester19/32/1953_2.png) [@lukester19](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukester19)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-and-place-for-cttm2/21481/4 "2008-10-16T21:52:44Z")
Want to give this a try over instant openness. See which works better but i like that the conversation goes on for ever suits me. Lol conversation is my middle name. Reps for the great report. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-and-place-for-cttm2/21481/5 "2008-10-17T04:13:54Z")
> [@lukester19](#): > > Want to give this a try over instant openness. See which works better but i like that the conversation goes on for ever suits me. Lol conversation is my middle name. Reps for the great report. Thanks for the reps. I also use IO regularly, and see the following- IO is more subtle of an effect, say a Hi in passing, CTTM2 is more of a stop, turn around and say something. the most affected people I can say are my coworkers, (my boss too) I show up wearing IO I get a hi how are you in passing. Wearing the same amount of CTTM2 I tend to get conversation based on what the person is thinking at that moment in time. one of our salesmen is my best gauge on socials. CTTM + IH with A314, I get random stuff about music his band, some garage band, or another band that was around in some small town 10 years ago that had one CD he found last week. (IH and IO with A314 and I get questions on sales stuff for work) My tuning forks would be the accounting people - if they stop at my desk and talk I am wearing CTTM, I might get a grunt in passing phero free, or a hi and a quick rundown on sports wearing IO + IH and A314, My boss is more funny, wearing almost anything he will come back and turn on the celing fans, IO he will say hi and ask how things are going, CTTM and I get a recap of his illegal poker game last night. ---
**Author:** ![lukester19](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lukester19/32/1953_2.png) [@lukester19](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukester19)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-and-place-for-cttm2/21481/6 "2008-10-17T04:33:46Z")
Speaking of the come talk to me mix do you think they will make a stronger dosage in the near future like 2 times strength just like instant openness. For me i need around 4 sprays of instant openness regular strength to see more drastic results so if i buy instant openness again it would need to be a higher concentration to save on sprays. Hopefully cttm will have this in the near future. But two sprays is working for you with this product and may be the same to me also just need to experiment. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-and-place-for-cttm2/21481/7 "2008-10-17T16:37:40Z")
having used IO and IO x2, and IH, and IHx4, CTTM2 is already better than IO x2 or IH x4 IMO