# Time Frame

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 11, 2007, 12:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595 "2007-07-11T12:38:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![carlinbud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@carlinbud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/carlinbud)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 12:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595/1 "2007-07-11T12:38:36Z")

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Ok, got a couple comments and questions today. I just got my A314, and wondering about how long it will last before I should re-apply. It is my first oil so I am unsure. Also I have been under the impression that the sprays last about 2 to 4 hours, is this correct? And as a side note, I have noticed much stronger hits when I am out after I re-apply if I have been out for more than 3 to 4 hours. Does this mean that I am not putting enough on in the first application? Has anyone else noticed this?

Thanks so much

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595/2 "2007-07-11T13:20:52Z")

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A314 should last longer on you because its a oil but it will diffuse less so the effects will be more subtle then with a spray. Is this the product you notice when you re-apply you see stronger hits? If so up the dose of it just a tiny bit at a time and see if it holds true with the first application.

The sprays differ for me a little. Most of them last anywhere from 4 to 6 hours for me with the best hits coming in the first 3 hours. I will re-apply a half dose maybe around the 6th or 7th hour depending on where I am and where I am going. I have noticed that even though it wears off after 4 to 6 I will occasionaly still get subtle reactions from some people after that amount of time. Especially if its hot out. I am thinking these people may just be more sensitive to mones then others.

By the way I find that oil based products work best when its hotter out. I use EOW which is a oil and I started in the winter and had alot more trouble getting it to work well for me. I had to use alot more. Now it is summer and I need less then I did in the winter to see the same reaction.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![carlinbud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@carlinbud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/carlinbud)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595/3 "2007-07-11T14:46:08Z")

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A314 is not the product I get more hits on after I re-apply. It is with Instant shine and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). Thanks for the info, that helps. I realize it is different for everyone but it is good to gather info from others. Thanks

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**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595/4 "2007-07-12T00:05:22Z")

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The A314 should last longer than [spray pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/) because its an oil, i think 10 to 12 hours have been heard of…

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595/5 "2007-07-12T00:15:45Z")

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Also different pheromones tend to have different levels of longevity as far effects. TAA in [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) tends to last about 2-3 hours, while the androstenone in AMMO will fade within about 6 hours, but will have a reduced effect that can last well into the next day. The fading effect you might notice around 3 hours or so is likely the fading out of TAA in AMMO and Shine. If you’re re-applying at the same levels as the initial application, I’d be willing to bet you’re getting better results because of higher levels of androstenone after the re-application. You can try a higher initial dose of AMMO to produce better effects initially, but would probably only want to reapply shine (MAYBE a minimal amount of AMMO) to avoid OD’ing on androstenone.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595/6 "2007-07-31T23:42:44Z")

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Maybe we should work on figuring the various “half life” of pheromones and [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/)…

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595/7 "2007-08-01T00:40:41Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
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> Maybe we should work on figuring the various “half life” of pheromones and pheromone products…

It wouldn’t work, everybody is in a different environment and have different body chemistries. Instead, we should put together a chart like:

User---------------Age----Product---------------Environment--------------Duration of (Noticed) effects----------Last product used (Name & date)

ect…

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**Author:** ![carlinbud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@carlinbud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/carlinbud)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/time-frame/4595/8 "2007-08-03T00:02:57Z")

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I like that idea of having a chart like that somewhere for people to look at to see what others have noticed.
