# Tips About Mixing Current Mones (spray mixing only) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 8, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963 "2013-09-08T13:53:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sunburnie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunburnie/32/2156_2.png) [@Sunburnie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunburnie)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/1 "2013-09-08T13:53:22Z")
So even though I’ve been reading this site for quite some time, I’ve only recently became a forum member, and I just recently developed some questions. Before that, here’s what I have. Currently I own: **To-go Sizes** : P102, P130, P74 (All 5 mcg) **30mL Sizes** : Androstenone 2.5 mcg, Instant Shine (Strength 1x), Ammunition (Strength 1x AND 2x), Ammunition Summer Edition (Strength 1x), last P83 (Strength only 2.5 mcg unfortunately, and I say that because I read that higher dosages then this produce more obvious results without spraying 8-10 sprays). So yeah, quite a few Androstenone products, ha. I must say they all smell really good IMO, but I can still understand how some can smell a different, negative scent. Anyways, I honestly have no idea what type of mixes I could create with the products mentioned above. I’m 27 and I don’t prefer any female older then me, so I know to keep the Androstenone on a lower level until I find out how it reacts with my own chemistry. I did see somewhere on here that some people found it to help with their gym work-outs so i’ll probably be using those products then. What I have noticed is that Instant Shine does make me feel good, or up-beat to where I take everything lightheartedly and joke around. I haven’t noticed anything with the P83 . Possibly because of the low dosage. The three Ammunitions I haven’t really noticed any results yet, besides I really like the smell of all 3 (that goes for all the products also though). I haven’t tried any of the To-go products I’ve gotten though. I kind of want to figure out how to use the Instant Line first (and p83 😛) and figure out how to achieve the descriptions results of each (besides kicking animals of course ha). So in a generalized way (personal chemistry, and “sweet spots” aside), I would like anyone to help me with this, what mixes can I make with the pheromones that I already have including the to-go that I own and the ones listed below? I’m not really searching for a specific result but I definitely don’t want to attract cougars, I just want to see what mixes I could concoct along with my future purchases (below) 😛 Also, I’m currently deciding either getting one or two of these right now then others later: [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Jerk, Instant Honesty, and Alpha A314, P83 (Higher dosage). I know the website has their brief descriptions of which instant product does what with another instant product, in the products description…but I really wanted personal experiences/stories/opinions (still remembering that products do effect people differently and that everyone has their own “sweet spot”). I must say, waking up the day after I have used a product I’ve tried (30mL ones) is great. Waking up and just smelling the nice scent of the products, is, so far my best experience with them (All are neroli scent or default scent, besides Summer Ammunition). Well forum people, and mutants, sorry for the long post. Hope to hear from every one of you though ha. Thanks for your time in Advance. ---
**Author:** ![Sunburnie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunburnie/32/2156_2.png) [@Sunburnie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunburnie)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/2 "2013-09-08T13:58:01Z")
Situations Just remembered I wanted to post my environments: Bars Friends’ house just to hang out Friend parties (as opposed to family parties) ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/3 "2013-09-08T16:41:41Z")
If you do spot cougars looking at you, don’t deny that it counts as a hit 😃 Make sure you get the hang of what each mone does before throwing too many in combos. Also understand that you usually want to have a base pheromone in any combo. Then steer it in the direction you want with other pheromones Ammo by itself is usually defined for around 30s women, but buffer/steer it correctly you can make your image different. **Ammo + IS** is great, if not, the most popular combo to use. IS makes it so your enone signature isn’t too overwhelming for the younger ladies and as you noted, keeps things upbeat and energetic. Beware the crash though IS can bring, the higher dose you use, usually results in a bigger crash (like sugar/coffee crash). Ammo has -none in it, but it is also buffered with alpha nols and rone I think. Alpha nols make people are you more chatty and happy. rone increases status as an alpha I think. p74 from what I understand is like IO. It makes the area very happy and social. Though it is a putative, meaning it’ experimental and you shouldn’t let other peoples’ opinions on it influence what you think it actually does for yourself. i.e. test it out solo. [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) has a molecule found in IS in it already I think. It’s what helps keeps it as a more relaxed version of Ammo. Very good for younger crowd. Not as serious as Ammo can be, so take this into account on how you want to be viewed/treated. Both are good. I’d like to throw you some mixes, but I’m fairly new myself and can’t really suggest any lol. There are tons of mixes if you look at jounrals especially to see what works for other forum members. A type of Mix you find may find interesting are the “fallout mixes”. Those are mixes that are made to try and make people treat you better with each exposure they get from you. p.s. putting a intro post in the introduction forums can net you a gc for 25$. ---
**Author:** ![redlion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@redlion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/redlion)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/4 "2013-09-08T17:45:21Z")
Well you’ve certainly got quite a collection started there. As xyzN said, testing each product solo should properly take some time. That said, I am prepared to give suggestions both for future purchases and mixing. First off, I’m glad to see that you’ve branched out from the Instant line into some of the more experimental products offered here. P83 is a real favorite of mine, but I agree a slightly higher dosage might help you out. I would suggest looking into p75 and IG. If you read a little about one or the other and are turned off (because of the “like a brother” attitude or whatever) just remember that many pheros don’t come into their own until combined with other molecules. IG and androstenone work well together in my experience, where IG solo probably isn’t what you’re looking for. p75 is a great little molecule - providing a nice rapport with peers at low doses and a slight authority signal at moderate to strong doses. IO and IH are invaluable, but pricey. Lately I’ve found myself trying putatives in an attempt to circumvent their high price tag. To that end I’ve found interesting results with p74 and p83, but nothing quite lives up to a well balanced product like IO. As far as on-skin mixes (as opposed to in-bottle mixing) I’ll start out with a few of my standbys. 2x [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), 1x p83 (@7.5mcg ea), 1-3x Shine - this results in a fun, slightly sexual attitude. The p83 helps people release inhibitions, particularly with regard to personal space. 2x Ammo/IG, 2x p83 (@7.5mcg), 2x p74 (@7.5mcg ea) - This results in a more chatty, get to know you mix, but still breaks down personal space barriers. If IG is used, be prepared to have your opinion taken more seriously. People tend to listen to me (if only to rebuke me) when I’m wearing IG. A-nol and b-nol products like IO work well in place of either putative, giving the following, 2x Ammo/IG, 2x p83 (@7.5mcg), 2x IO - This is a very well rounded fishing/approach mix. Walk up to the bar and sit next to a nice looking girl. Count the seconds until she lays a hand on your arm to spark a conversation. Remember that mixes are generally given in ratios. So in the mix directly above - 2x Ammo, 2x p83, 2x IO - you could end up doing double that amount of sprays, or even triple, depending on your body chemistry. It’s important to approach mix testing with the same degree of scientific doubt as you do with solo product testing. And don’t be afraid to tweak your own mix formulas. ---
**Author:** ![Sunburnie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunburnie/32/2156_2.png) [@Sunburnie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunburnie)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/5 "2013-09-08T18:26:46Z")
Ah, you both have stated very good insights. Well my order that I placed (before I got the replies) was of Instant Jerk and Instant Openness. So i’ll be able to try out some of the mixes mentioned by you redlion. Unfortunately I do not own [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) though 😕 I’m wondering if IJ and IO compatible with each other, or if IJ is compatible with any of the stated above.. And XyzN, please do post some mixes if you have the free time. It would be appreciated 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/6 "2013-09-09T16:52:41Z")
I don’t think it sounds the best of combos. IJ is supposed to make others think of you like a jerk right? So if you throw IO in, a mone that helps builds chatting, yes, but also makes you and others around happy. How is one to be a jerk if he just keeps making everyone laugh around him? Sounds confusing, but eh, that’s just my thoughts, someone who’s actually tried this could probably tell you better. Do test it though! You could have positive or negative results, who knows. I’d say IH would be better, cause it helps build deep relations. That + IJ sounds pretty neato in my opinion lol. ---
**Author:** ![Sunburnie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunburnie/32/2156_2.png) [@Sunburnie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunburnie)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/7 "2013-09-10T04:11:22Z")
Yeah I think my next order will consist of either IH, A314, or a higher strength of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). With the IJ+IO I think I wanted to avoid getting into fights so maybe the IO will lighten it somewhat so it’s not super confrontational. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/8 "2013-09-10T04:38:44Z")
You will need a hell of a lot of IO to moderate IJ effectively - And you will fundamentally change the IJ vibe in the process. Same with IH but it does retain a more usable status. Personally, a small amount of IS as a steering rather than moderating mone has always proved more productive for me. 1-2 sprays alongside each spray of IJ adds a sardonic layer that generally goes down pretty well. Or an above-normal dose of A314, which will add a lot of substance to the IJ. A1 is also very useful if you can tolerate it. 10mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is the dose I’d suggest you go for to start with but if you are using it mainly alongside overt sexuals/high-status combos, 15mcg might be better as you will almost certainly be dosing above 45mcg. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/9 "2013-09-10T10:01:34Z")
I am assuming thats you in the picture to the left… correct ? Well you need to buffer more. Your built, young and good looking. (no I am not hitting on you) 😃 LOL… its just a fact. You dont need to much anone which is why your not seeing much with the Ammos. Still use them but buffer more with the comfort and social mones to create more pull. This way you pull them in with those and your more sexual mones can sneak in under the radar and get them all hot and bothered. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Sunburnie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunburnie/32/2156_2.png) [@Sunburnie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunburnie)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 10:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/10 "2013-09-10T10:10:57Z")
Lol @ hot & bothered. Good insight though, that did pop in my head but I wasn’t too sure about it. How about Ammo and IO, or was there anything specifically you had in mind? ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-about-mixing-current-mones-spray-mixing-only/59963/11 "2013-09-18T12:44:14Z")
> [@XyzN](#): > > I don’t think it sounds the best of combos. IJ is supposed to make others think of you like a jerk right? So if you throw IO in, a mone that helps builds chatting, yes, but also makes you and others around happy. How is one to be a jerk if he just keeps making everyone laugh around him? Sounds confusing, but eh, that’s just my thoughts, someone who’s actually tried this could probably tell you better. Do test it though! You could have positive or negative results, who knows. > > I’d say IH would be better, cause it helps build deep relations. That + IJ sounds pretty neato in my opinion lol. IJ will work with IO. In many of my mixes, I use IJ with Odyssey (another company’s version of the discontinued Spaceland, which is like a geared-up version of IO). I’ve also used IJ with IH in mixes. IH is one of the best buffers for IJ, just as long as you have some self-control while you’re on the IJ. It would be bad if a girl opened up to your about some childhood experience, and then you just give in to the IJ and start trolling her. 😮 But if you tend to be a playful jerk as opposed to a douche variety jerk, then IJ will probably be more useful to you than Ammo.