# Tips and Thoughts for you who worry about your looks.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 5, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368 "2007-03-05T21:38:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CuriousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CuriousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CuriousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/141 "2007-03-23T15:54:53Z")

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“Crawl back to the 18th century you ass - and fast”

Thats the comment my post got, now isn’t that a little childish? 😃

“18th century”? I think I would suck with those swords. 😉

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**Author:** ![CuriousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CuriousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CuriousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/142 "2007-03-23T16:01:21Z")

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Smn1234, just to add my personal opinion of you… You’re cute as $#%&

hehe, no really, there have been guys that look very similar to what you do and gotten better results than you think is mathematically possible.

If you have a hard time talking to women on the street I can give you a run down of what to do and what not. It’s totally different than in clubs and parties.

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/143 "2007-03-23T16:21:27Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
>
> Masters? Oh please…
> 
> I would eat that up for breakfast and spit it back out in time for tea, and would have called it on all its lies, tricks and foibles within 10 minutes - tops.
> 
> You don’t have to believe me, but trust me, it is the case.
> 
> Been there, done that SO many times - and it’s BORING.
> 
> I would never ever tire of smashing him, ego and all repeatedly into the ground. He would be seething with rage after encountering my circle. We would probably pass him around the entire group of us - just for sport.
> 
> See? Women like sport too. Especially putting arrogant assspieces who think they are doing women a FAVOUR by gracing them with their presence, in their rightful place..
> 
> Don’t like that fact? Too bloody bad.
> 
> You want to play your stupid, nonsensical, ego-building games, but NOT have a female backlash?
> 
> Go and live on planet Zog then - and take about 14 of the guys from here with you.
> 
> The women here, crush people like you, and are also getting very VERY adept at doing so too, thanks to the mindless drivel like THIS we keep witnessing.
> 
> Go WAY back to where the women in these forums TELL YOU in this thread what we are looking for.
> 
> See that? Genuine.
> 
> - NOT VERY young asses who THINK they know better than a woman HERSELF what she wants.
> 
> - NOT misogynistic basket-cases who wouldn’t know what to do with a REAL woman if she slapped him in the face.
> 
> - NOT arrogant pieces of work who think it’s ALL about “The Game” (Where IS my bucket, by the way..?.)  
> GENUINE MEN!
> 
> There are a few of them here on these forums. They are damn thin on the ground mind you, but they are what the world should have SO many more of.
> 
> NOT men who play games.
> 
> Games are for kids.
> 
> Oh wait..
> 
> Yeah…that says it all
> 
> Ail 🙂

Couldn’t have said it better myself!!

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/144 "2007-03-23T16:56:43Z")

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only out of respect for it being the men’s domain, i will only say that it is a very interesting view you have, pua.

i dont really have anything against the whole PUA thing.  
i do however find men that follow other men to be just that-

followers.

i dig people that blaze their own path without the need for a rulebook 😉

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**Author:** ![CuriousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CuriousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CuriousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/145 "2007-03-23T17:13:46Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
>
> only out of respect for it being the men’s domain, i will only say that it is a very interesting view you have, pua.
> 
> i dont really have anything against the whole PUA thing.  
> i do however find men that follow other men to be just that-
> 
> followers.
> 
> i dig people that blaze their own path without the need for a rulebook 😉

That was awesome Lor, you’re much more on the cool side than some are… -cough-cough-.. just kidding. 😉

About men being followers, just like I said, some are, some are not. If you would read the “rulebook” I guarantee you would get a different perspective. The “rulebook” knows the truth and what a good book always contains is telling you to be unique, telling you to bend or break the rules if you want, telling you to drop all technique if you’re not happy, telling you to be honest and avoid hurting women(yes, they say that because being dishonest and fuck womens brains up will only make you miserable, and her).

So if you guys don’t get the message I’ve been trying to convey in these 15 pages of pure Forum babble, I must be approaching this the wrong way or you deny the fact that I have skills to attract women and am spilling out the truth to help guys.

hehe, it’s almost like giving a person a net to trap a bird. The bird would be pissed at me for giving the person the freakin’ net 😉. And to carry on with the metaphor: it’s then up to the person to either nourish the bird and help it have a better life or just force it into doing something it wouldn’t want. - It’s up to the person how it uses the things given.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/146 "2007-03-23T17:19:39Z")

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sheet, ok im going to have fun with THIS one.

> [@](#):
>
> hehe, it’s almost like giving a person a net to trap a bird. The bird would be pissed at me for giving the person the freakin’ net 😉. And to carry on with the metaphor: it’s then up to the person to either nourish the bird and help it have a better life or just force it into doing something it wouldn’t want. - It’s up to the person how it uses the things given

ok, so now women are birds that men trap, and THEN its up to the man to decide whether or not the bird gets treated right and proper?

or are you talking about trapping other men into your theory, and its up to you to offer them a better life, to use your words?

im confused 😕

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**Author:** ![CuriousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CuriousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CuriousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/147 "2007-03-23T17:28:36Z")

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hahahaha, wow, this thread has so much entertaining value 😃

What I mean is knowledge or things that can be used to your advantage.

But if we were to compare the metaphor to pick up:

NET: The ways to get a woman attracted to you.

BIRD: The woman.

So the man is given X Y and Z to attract the woman. If he succeeds, it’s his problem how he treats her.

Basically saying, this is not manipulation, it is only given that name by men who enjoy that(twisted, I know), this is just some basic ways for us men to get the chance to convey our personality that otherwise would be trapped in a swirl of misconception. (Like looks for instance.)

Get it Lor? 😉

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/148 "2007-03-23T17:34:06Z")

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Oh dear..

You do realise Lor is being (a lot) nicer than Dolly and myself, and is in fact, playing you (masterfully) at your own silly game, here?.

What an odd little man you are.

You think you can best a REAL, and VERY STRONG woman like Lor???

HAHAHAHA! AS IF! Enjoy! You’ll be here until Kingdom-come!

Looks like that spaceship to Planet Zog needs to be summoned - and pronto..

Entertaining? Indeed it is. FOR US!

OH and before I forget, you know why women are referred to (by the ignorant) as “Birds?”

…Because of the sheer amount of damn worms they pick up…😠

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/149 "2007-03-23T17:36:25Z")

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CuriousPUA, do you really like your metaphor? Does it feel just about right to you?

It’s quite revealing.

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**Author:** ![CuriousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CuriousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CuriousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/150 "2007-03-23T17:37:50Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
>
> Oh dear..
> 
> You do realise Lor is being a (lot) nicer than Dolly and myself, and is in fact, playing you (masterfully) at your own silly game, here?.
> 
> What an odd little man you are.
> 
> You think you can best a REAL, and VERY STRONG woman like Lor???
> 
> HAHAHAHA! AS IF! Enjoy! You’ll be here until Kingdom-come!
> 
> Looks like that spaceship to Planet Zog needs to be summoned - and pronto..
> 
> Entertaining? Indeed it is. FOR US!
> 
> Ail 🙂

Ok, I just labeled you crazy…

You know I’m sleeping with Lor, so she can manipulate me all she wants… all night long…

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/151 "2007-03-23T17:40:09Z")

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..and then you woke up, dear..

Lor is a very good friend of mine.

The day she sleeps with you?

THAT is the day I will have checked into Planet Zog - myself..

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![CuriousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CuriousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CuriousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/152 "2007-03-23T17:40:58Z")

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> [@Carrie](#):
>
> CuriousPUA, do you really like your metaphor? Does it feel just about right to you?
> 
> It’s quite revealing.

And now I’m getting teased for making up crappy metaphors? Thanks a lot! I’m really pissed right now, maybe my ways of socializing was just luck, maybe looks do matteR! omg, I have no money !!! Best to just stop talking to women in general.

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**Author:** ![CuriousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CuriousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CuriousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/153 "2007-03-23T17:43:17Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
>
> ..and then you woke up, dear..
> 
> Lor is a very good friend of mine.
> 
> The day she sleeps with you?
> 
> THAT is the day I will have checked into Planet Zog - myself..
> 
> Ail 🙂

Jealous again?? We’ve talked about this dear, please don’t bring our problems up on the internet hun. You’re my second best, remember that.

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/154 "2007-03-23T17:52:27Z")

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Firstly..

My SO would marmalise you before you managed to get within 100 FEET of me..

Secondly: You are a patronising little git and you need put in your place for once. I am going to do that - OK?

Thirdly: I am going to make you wish you had NEVER started this inane thread.

Fourthly: I am copying all my posts in case you want to bleat to someone about the fact you are being got at (by a woman - HAHAH), and so I will keep posting, until YOU get the message.

FIfth: Don’t you DARE presume to talk about people you don’t know from Eve, in any damn way you like.

Oh boy..Little man, you are the worst, the WORST example of condescending I have ever experienced, and I have been lecturing for almost 16 years now!

Six (I have no clue if sixthly exists, but I am on my Friday night pre-clubbing tipples now, so who cares?) The more you post your inane drivel, the more I will shoot you down in flames, and trust me, I would LOVE to be smacking you into the ground - in person.

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/155 "2007-03-23T18:04:33Z")

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lol he’s spittin that Web Game… 🙂

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**Author:** ![CuriousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CuriousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CuriousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/156 "2007-03-23T18:05:23Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
>
> Firstly..
> 
> My SO would marmalise you before you managed to get within 100 FEET of me..
> 
> Secondly: You are a patronising little git and you need put in your place for once. I am going to do that - OK?
> 
> Thirdly: I am going to make you wish you had NEVER started this inane thread.
> 
> Fourthly: I am copying all my posts in case you want to bleat to someone about the fact you are being got at (by a woman - HAHAH), and so I will keep posting, until YOU get the message.
> 
> FIfth: Don’t you DARE presume to talk about people you don’t know from Eve, in any damn way you like.
> 
> Oh boy..Little man, you are the worst, the WORST example of condescending I have ever experienced, and I have been lecturing for almost 16 years now!
> 
> Six (I have no clue if sixthly exists, but I am on my Friday night pre-clubbing tipples now, so who cares?) The more you post your inane drivel, the more I will shoot you down in flames, and trust me, I would LOVE to be smacking you into the ground - in person.
> 
> Ail 🙂

Stop with all those sexual innuendos, talking about smacking only gets me hot you manipulator.

And I like your passion for “DESTROYING” me, very Terminator spirited.

I like your 4th point very much, that you wouldn’t want this thread to exist… well, I’ll have to let the guys be the judges of that. So guys, have you gotten any value of what I have contributed or would it have been better to bow down to the enormous, brainstorming fury and the psychopathic and chronic persuasion tendencies of the women? 😉

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/157 "2007-03-23T18:20:04Z")

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well, after reading what has transpired last, i have few words to say.

i think that had we had the chance to do some chit chat back and forth, the bird metaphor would have been _only the tip of the iceberg_, but alas,we hadnt the chance ☹

i think we would have had more _revealing_ posts than that we’re easily catchable birds (easy because it only takes a BOOK to figure it out)

bummer.

i was hoping you would prove them all wrong, because i do infact see that you have a brain, and that your social skills are not lacking.

_tact is._

i also see alot of self-promotion here, i.e. there is the teacher, there is the students.

my only bit of advice here (may or may not be useful) if anyone asks (and i dont assume one will ) is that a great teacher is a person who hasnt finished learning.

when i am posting and i see that i am not being recieved well, i usually continue on until its _painfully obvious_ i have hit an off-key 😃 (yeah it happens) , suffer for a minute ☹ , and re-evaluate if going any further is to anyones advantage.

if guys follow this route, they will likely be recieved the same way.

to see a gal _ **as a catch** _ will be revealed in every word, every move you make. you cannot hide a belief system.

i am convinced here that alot of us dont realize that we think _what we think_ until we re-read our own posts.

i

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**Author:** ![rtype6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rtype6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtype6)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/158 "2007-03-23T18:21:32Z")

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It’s obvious improving all areas of your life (fitness, looks, etc.) will make you better, but when it comes down to it, personality is what matters most.

Many women I know consider me one of the best looking guys they’ve ever seen. I was always quiet and anti-social. Every time a model type girl approached me, seconds later she lost interest due to my nervousness.

I finally improved myself and am good all around now. So everyone.. Don’t worry about looks!

Guys love looks and girls prefer the right personality.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/159 "2007-03-23T18:26:12Z")

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oh and just for the record-

there in fact men i admire on this forum.

Sigma, for one, is _amazing_ .  
TaoistBiker…stuff speaks for itself 🙂

i could go on, as there are more than i can possibly list in one post.

if i were you,  
i would read their stuff (and learn hopefully) and not mention your sleeping with ME, LOL. everyone here _that knows me_ know **i dont have sex**.

like,_ever_.

i will be respectful and say that it wasnt a clever thing to say.

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tips-and-thoughts-for-you-who-worry-about-your-looks/2368/160 "2007-03-23T18:31:26Z")

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Taoistbiker  
Sigma  
Thalion  
Matt

Men who are SO amazing, that if they do NOT get their heart’s desire, something is FAR wrong in the universe, and in which case Lori myself and some others have some sorting out of THAT injustice to do..

Genuine, lovely and empathetic MEN. NOT little boys.

Try learning just one hundredth of how those men treat women.

You will all be winners - seriously.

Ail 🙂

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